Vox Populi – 10-31-2014

Boo! Anyone else here yet?

hi glenn

Hi, Silly, how goes it?

great week and you?

Boo back to you…I am here in the flesh and in the spirit.

hi murph

SLM–same old, same old. Cleaning house today and tomorrow in prep for a houseguest Sunday.

Hi Murph–how are you tonight?

I am fine. A long week of campaigning with a long weekend to follow.

well glenn house cleaning can be fun

Hi, Beatlex

hi b

quite the entrance

hi kt

Jumping jumping in. Howdy.

Everyone having a spooktacular evening?

What’s up Docs?

SLM–Sorry to disagree, but housecleaning is never fun. Having a clean house afterwards does my heart good, but doing the actual cleaning, not so much!

Hi Murph

glenn lol

TOSSING THIS OUT: Basic Principle: When the economy is doing well, the party in power, does well in the current elections. Our GDP is growing at 3.5% when 2% is considered satisfactory The Dow Jones Industrial Avg stands at 17,390 – record smashing Standard and Poors stands at 2,018 also record smashing Consumer Confidence at 86.9, highest since 2007 Housing Starts are up 6.3 percent Housing Sales are up 7.4 percent Gas is the cheapest in 4 years…. So why are the Dems on the edge of losing the Senate? Why aren’t the Dems, the party in power, waltzing to victory in the midterms and in governor’s elections and in state legislative contests?

Oh yeah, BOO!

Hey KT–how are you and your mom?

Hey glenn. We’re doing OK. And you?

murph – boo, and what if the vote ends up dumping them sooner rather than later

SLM…dumps who?

the Rs of course

Murph–I think there are several reasons 1. Dems suck at getting this message out! 2. The media also sucks at getting this good economic news out! 3. Republicans dominate the airwaves. Can you think of any more?

SLM…I am unclear the R’s are going to dump who?

Three more days to big day.

I sure hope we keep the senate.

no murph the voters dump the Rs, just cause the media has it twisted doesn’t mean it won’t happen

KT–Same old same old but glad to hear you’re doing OK.

isn’t mc connell losing?

Glenn….the medium trumps the message, propaganda gets the props, and Dems do not exercise good tactical discipline.

Murph–I did my part–early voting in GA, so I voted Thursday.

We’ve done OK for the last 8 years Murph.

SLM…th GOTV game will win us some contests but the public is fooled, well and thoroughly. Fear, anger, anxiety sell

murph – it is a scary night

SLM..Mc up n most poll.

I’m hoping the public has finally grown tired of all the fear mongering and hate from the right.

Allison Grimes has filed a suit,it seems Oconnell sent out some false mailers to some voters

KT…we do well in Presidential years and not so well in the off years.

McConnell!

Beatle- those mailers are vile, they are threatening voters in Dem areas, largely minority voters with jail…a very real fear for persons of color in this country.

Murph,the R’s will stoop as far as they think they have to

Murph–I agree. Dems do not have “good tactical discipline.” Much as I hate the republican/tparty message, you have to admire their relentless pounding of the message, even if it’s proved to be wrong. A poster on Media Matters this morning posting all over again about the so-called voter fraud by Dems in the 2012 election–you know the viral email that made so many false claims about the amount of votes PBO got. I did give the poster a link to how that email was false; but s/he will probaby never read it, let alone passi it on to the person who sent him/her the viral email.

Beatle….for the R’s it is whatever it takes no matter what it costs.

Or who it hurts Murph

Glenn…I have been battling that lie about Obama voters for two weeks and now it has become…”that’s how Dem always win…”

Beatle, yes.

Beatle- for them it is who it helps, their patrons and sponsors.

Murph–perhaps this is a rhetorical question, but how can people believe those lies after countless fact checkers have said they were lies? Do they just dismiss them as “liberal media?” I just don’t get it, do you?

glenn – I wish I understood it

Glenn. They do not beleive the fact checks- more liberal bias. It is easy. Once you say “THIS is the truth- then anything else mut be a LIE.”

I hope, after the disaster of 2010, more people have realized how important the mid-terms are.

SLM–I wish I did too. People always dismiss it as “old white people”, but I am an old white person, and I just don’t understand how you can keep repeating something that is clearly shown to be a lie.

kt – I think they do, especially the millenials who they expect to sit this out as usual…

KT–I do, too. I was very surprised at how many people were early voting Thursday afternoon when I went. Of course, since I live in GA, they were probably all republicans. I am hopeful that there were also Democrats like me. After all, the early voting was held at the library, and I know what a scary place that is for r/tp people.

LOL glenn. My polling place was a church. That’s scary for me!

Murph–I guess. It must be nice to be so convinced of your “rightness”. IMO, that’s the biggest difference between Dems and r/tp people. Dems are willing to change their minds if presented with a logical, clear argument, based on facts. It seems to me that once an r/tp gets something in their head that they “believe” to be “right”, then NOTHING will change his/her mind.

2010? Ancient history. Frankly right now I am very angry with both the black and hispanic community- where is their outrage? more importantly where are their numbers? why this last minute push to get them to engage? what about young people? It seems to me that “our groups” assume that things will be ok. They will work out. “Their” base assumes that we are out to get them and they have to fight for everything. Thus they turn out.

Glenn, when was the last time the Dem’s changed their mind on anything?

Glenn…you describe the best of us…ou are describing us here at this site but for so many Dems…there is just no ongoing fire.

Too many people, on both sides make this about the president. It is NOT about Obama.

Jumping…I agree doctrine and those who hold it is pretty much entrenched on both sides. I happen to believe that the Dems have the most good for the most people in mind.

KT but the Right has framed EVERY VOTE AS A REFERENDUM ON THE MAN IN THE WH

Sorry Murph but I think the liberal viewpoint is generally “I know what’s best for you”

Yeah Murph, that’s true. I’m hoping that the dem base isn’t buying it.

JJF, the liberal base generally DOES know what’s best.

Then why don’t you practice what’s best for you and leave the rest of us alone to make our own decisions?

kt – I don’t think so. And of course we do, we take everything into consideration.

JJF, such as?

Government intrusion in everything

JJF–So why don’t repubs practice what’s best for them and let women make their own decisions about birth control and abortion?

Jumping that is also the right’s point of view (look at opposition to abortion, birth control, gay marriage for ready examples)

jjf – we are part of an eco-system that we are destroying, and we are our government

JJF, what decisions are you referring to?

It’s going to get REALLY ugly if the R’s win the senate.It will be non stop investigations and hearings for this or that

b – it will be more of the same, nothing getting done, nothing to reveal

JJF- I hope you have your loins girded for battle…..many here will disagree, but you are capable of representing your positon..so go to it.

Murph, with respect to abortion, we view it as ending a human life and nobody has the right to make that decision for someone else.

Beatle…read my article on What if the GOP wins the Senate…it might surpise you.

SLM- read my article here re the GOP control of the Senate…might surprise you.

JJF, when does life begin? Is a cluster of cells a life?

Wiil do Murph,I have been out of the loop for a while

murph – will do

With a heartbeat at 3 weeks

JJF…precisely. The science does not support the position taken by the right, the law does not either but that doe not matter “WE” think this, there fore it is so.”

JJF–You can view abortion as “ending a human life”; that’s your pergorative. So, are you saying you are a pro-choice republican?

Who is going to care for unwanted children? The GOP? I seriously doubt that.

tada! I made it. Hi all

I’m all for choice but abortion is 1 person making the choice for another.

Hey Harleigh. How are you?

Hey Harl!

JJF…Roe v. Wade remains the law of the land, GOP legislatures have gotten around it in a number of moves that have closed clinics…justification…because we think X and we are going to do what we have to make you comply. Intrusion, you bet.

JJF, you say you don’t like government intrusion, but what do you call the government forcing women to have a child they don’t want or can’t properly care for?

jack – sorry this woman begs to differ, I know women who have miscarried up to 12 weeks (myself included). Please point to where in the bible it states that abortion is wrong.

Harleigh….we are going hot and heavy….

Murph, so when that decision is overturned will you call it the law of the land?

JJF–So, you are saying that a woman does not have the right to choose what to do with her body? That YOU get to make that choice for her by telling her she can’t have an aborytion?

JJF…I will.

hi harleigh, sorry I’ll fill a bowl for you (smoked it already, tee hee)

The right to choose IS the law of the land!

Hey Lady!

hey sabreen

The Supreme court at one time ruled that slavery was legal too.

Oops–sorry an “abortion”

JJF…I believe in the rule of law. I beleive in the wisdom of science. I am pro life but I realize that the science does not support my beleif about the event horizon for human life….so I support the research that is exploring that.

I personally attempted to have a conversation with a very young blastocyst on this subject of ‘person-hood’ but the female carrier threatened to call the police! It was probably the head lamp and the speculum that weird-ed her out the most. The bus driver was kind of annoyed also too! They’ll be sorry when I get a job as a senior officer in the new Federal Homeland Sakuraty Department of Gina Police. I would be the first Gina General. It would require a department of at least 15,000 Gina Police to keep an eye on over 150,000,000 possible rogue gina’s spread across our great free land of merika. With the help and cooperation of the NSA and 17 other intelligence spy agencies we would be able to look into anything that seemed even a little bit fishy! By preventing the termination of the birth of literally millions of future personhoods we could conscript them directly off of welfare and into the military at the age 18 and never again have to pay foreign mercenaries to defend our freedumbs and rights here in merika!

Hey Sabreen–how are you?

So the right to choose and slavery are the same? Really?

Hiya folks. Just finished turning tricks – couldn’t get any treats.

Hello Sabreen…big talking here tonight.

harleigh – too much!!

Sabreen you naughty dem!

Wouldn’t you call forcing a women to raise a child, slavery?

kt – I would

Me too slm.

hey guys, enough with the abortion talk. It’s my experience it never goes anywhere. I won’t convince you and you won’t convince me.

That’s what they did in Nazi Germany. They forced women to bear Aryan children.

JJF–IOW, you can’t defend your position.

sabreen – you healed completely?

glenn, that assumes you would change your mind, which you won’t.

All right sabreen! LOL slm, I even have my reich wing Gina General Uniform all designed! It is like the SS only it is Mauve! Intead of a gun I have a V probe!

JJF, are you a woman? I think the question makes a difference.

harleigh – mauve is my favorite color!!

JJF..I am fine with dropping the topic BUT what it illustrates is that ideology on both sides is entrenched.

Harleigh, that’s kinky!

kt – thanks for saying that

So the topic has been abortion. Well my 2 cents: I remember coat hangers. I remember women never being able to conceive after one of those back alley abortions. I remember women dying after one of those back alley abortions. I remember wealthy white women having the money to pay doctors for a DNC. I remember women getting abortions anyway they could. Of course, not all women, but…..

JJF–But why should I change my mind? I’m not trying to change your mind, either. You have every right to believe that abortion is wrong. I have every right to believe that a woman has a right to choose whether or not to have an abortion, and that the government s;hould not intefere in that belief; just as you shouldn’t.

The anti-abortion stance is of a religious nature. That doesn’t fly in a secular nation.

I have put lots of thought into the subject, so to speak!! LOL

My pleasure slm!

kt – and they can’t point to the place in the bible where it talks about abortion, except the one in the OT that is a recipe for an herbal one

slm, they always point to “Thou shall not kill.” Except for capital punishment and corporate wars.

I don’t believe in capital punishment either

Well it won’t matter since we are all going to die from Ebola! (benghazi)

kt – and the weaponry that is used for non-legal markets and wars where they are provided to both sides

SLM, Yep. I’m healed. Thanks for asking. It was just so weird.

JJF–IOW, it’s none of your business whether or not a woman not related to you has an abortion, just as it is none of the government’s business.

But many, many right wingers do. The same ones that are against abortion.

sabreen – glad you’re better

JJF–Glad to hear you don’t believe in capital punishment. See, there’s something we can agree on

Me also too Sabreen!

Yep!

I had a post that got a few thousand likes around the cosmos! seriously!

Soooo, have you discussed “sit down and shut up”?

well sort of! LOL

Sabreen, no we haven’t discussed the bully of NJ yet.

hate to poop out early, but have had a busy week. happy scary night, tuesday won’t be as scary as murph thinks. have a great week everyone.

OK, my last comment on abortion. Nowhere does any law say that any woman HAS to get an abortion. It is a choice, so nothing is being forced upon anybody. There is no government intrusion.

Have a great weekend slm.

SLM–You have a great week, too. G’night.

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SLM, have a great weekend and I think I go to Barbados tomorrow and come back after Tuesday – maybe.

Harleigh–LOL! Not much different from the turtle’s latest mailing.

SLM…i suspect there will be a live vox here on Tuesday so let’s talk then.

murph – see ya then

Harleigh, Maybe you can tweet that!

Harleigh…McConnell’s campaign wants you to call right away…job offer pendng.

Night slm, please send my wrning to everyone! OH THE HUMANITY!!! bwahahaha

I’ll have to make sure and log in on Tuesday, should be fun.

will do harleigh

Murph,

OK HOW ABOUT THE PERFORMANCE BY GOV. CHRISTIE?

SIT DOWN AND STF UP!!! wonderful

Choice..howdy do.

Murph, people are getting tired of Christie’s tough guy bullshit.

Happy Halloween everyone – good to see you between trick or treat responses1

Murph-I think that Christie proves often that he is not presidential material.

Hey old friend!

hi CL

Hi Choice–how are you?

Murph, Christie needs a size 12 where the sun don’t shine. What go me were the people cheering him. Geez. I really wonder about some Americans. This classless idiot thinks he should be president.

Howdy right back, Murph. Christie is disgusting. But MSM played into it calling the man with the sign a ‘heckler’ and Christie as entertaining.

Sabreen – I agree with you!

Hi glenn – doing fine, how about you?

most of the Sandy vics will see none of the relief money.

Ms. CL. How are you? The guy with the sign was on some show. I had the TV on but was doing something else. I heard him say that Christie went off because the guy was speaking the truth about all the home owners who are still out of their homes.

Sabreen–That’s what I couldn’t get over. The people in the audience cheering him. And, then, the idiots like Chris Matthews, Andrea Mitchell, and Chris Cizilla talkig about what “great television” it was. It was pure and simple bullying, and it is not a laughing matter.

CL–Same old, same old.

glenn – that’s what irritated me no end – the MSM celebration of yet another bully.

glenn – same old same old is not BAD!

CL–I agree. As long as I’m able to do the same things today that I did yesterday, then it’s a good day!

We

ALL…I find myelf agreeing with your portrayal of Christie…he is saved by the media on both sides who know he draws a crowd and encourage his behavior. Remember when bullies drew crowds?

glenn – we’re creeping into that part of life where if you’re up, it’s good, if you’re name’s not in the obits it’s excellent.

CL–Exactly!

Christie = IOKIYAR. What would the corporate owned media say if a Dem bullied someone?

Murph – bullies drew crowds during the HUAC/McCarthy years, too. I have no wish to return to that horrid time.

HEY CL, everytime you wake up it’s like you’ve got another chance right?? lol

sabreen – you KNOW they’d go nuts if a Dem did what Christie did!

Harleigh – yup. Every day is a ‘do over’!

Sabreen–just think how the press would lose it’s collective mind if PBO ever said anything like that! And yet, the press has no problem encouraging Christie, and at the same time, portraying him as presidential material. Blows my mind!

When you have the MSNBC crowd chortling about Christie…..they have joined the crowd yelling “fight, fight!” Al Jazeera coverage was very clinical and very negative.

Christie’s a Republican? Could have fooled me.

CL, I wish a Dem would do it just for the heck of it. Sorta like I wish several black guys in an open carry state would walk in a store and see what happens.

Al Jazeera is really becoming my ‘go to’ news source.

Glenn…exactly…Obama would be hoisted up the yardarm.

BRB folks

Choice…for me it is.

Crusty is a lying fat ass? wow. who knew?

sabreen – LOL!!! I’d enjoy the consternation on both scores, but I’d worry about people’s safety!

Murph – that’s why you’re here. It’s your safe place! I grew up in a very conservative town, now a home for the religious right, so I have some sense of your embattlement.

Yeah CL. But it sure would highlight the hypocrisy.

sabreen – it would indeed. But no one would make that commentary because those who could won’t admit their biases.

not even chucky todd!?

I know CL, which is the main reason I stopped watching MSNBC unless there is a story I really want to hear. And CNN is just pathetic.

BRB

Harleigh – ESPECIALLY Chucky. Whose name, on Halloween, does make one wonder…

hehehe

Harleigh – LOL!!

Choice- truth

never have liked chucky, such a smarmy fuckin tool. same with chris mathews.

Is there a Bride of Chucky and Son of Chucky? I shudder at the possibilities.

Harleigh – chris occasionally does well, but he’s deeply in love with chris.

Todd’s ratings are in the crapper. Gives me hope for my fellow Americans!

KT – that is GOOD news! How are you, BTW, and how is your mother?

no kiddin. sb called the mathews opinion hour in a schreechy alto 95db alto voice.

Harliegh – too funny!

We are doing well CL. Had a pretty bad scare about a month ago or so. She had a bad seizure. But she’s fine now.

Harleigh – sorry, typing too fast, misspelled your name…

Oh KT – I’m sorry and glad she’s doing well.

quite alright VCL

LOL

Everyone – is AdLib off trick or treating and if so, will he share the swag with us?

Thanks CL! She a pretty tough lady!

KT – I hope you’re enjoying being with her. It must be pretty on the Cape now?

CL–Ad said at the beginning that he would be here in spirit!

I hope he gets some THC infused Gummy Bears!

bad when you can’t spell an abreviation. Almost palinesque!

glenn – not sure if that’s good or incredibly creepy!

Murph, What’s up with leaks in Furgerson? How are the protesters dealing with the leaks?

Harleigh – Like Bushisms, Palinisms have taken over our brains!!!

It’s absolutely beautiful CL. I could use a little more “me time,” but all in all, things are going well.

CL–Now we also have the “smarter Palin”–none other than Joni Ernst–ya know, she of the “second amendment remedies”.

Sarah speaks thru a salad shooter into a Mr Microphone. No transation device is available.

glenn – Joni is even WORSE than Palin.

Sabreen…the Ferguson leaks are clearly from the prosecution in an effort to prep the people for no indictment or a pro forma charge; they are what the prosecutor wanted as the police are core constituents for him.

CL–Ahh-but she carries a pretty little 9mm pistol! Ernst, that is!

Harleigh – that’s GREAT. I liked Stephanie Miller who said when Palin speaks it’s like a Scrabble box blew up in her head, but yours is even BETTER!

The kneelers of the corn might elect Joni. sad huh?

Joni the gun totin Congressperson?

Harleigh, “Salad shooter”! I’ve got to borrow that.

Hello all, just catching up

I loved steph and Randi Rhodes. don’t have them on the air down here.

Murph – the leaks are the most disgusting things I’ve seen since it’s supposed to be confidential. What bias and bigotry underpins it all!

KT–that’s the one! The person who wants to get elected to the very same government she wants to shoot up!

Hey PPO–lively conversation tonight!

glenn – my question to Joni is that if we’re not happy with HER in the Senate… Fair’s fair, right?

That’s really schizoid glenn.

Hi PPO!!!

Borrow whatever you need Sabreen! If you don’t see it just ask.

Choice- another example of how corrupt this state is.

Murph, I know the protestors are going to be pissed. I hope they will be able to stay peaceful.

CL–Well…fair’s fair but I don’t want to stoop to her level, which IMO, is sedition.

I’d volunteer to pepper her with paintballs! Her choice of colors.

Hiya PPO!

About to enjoy a public holiday next Tuesday for a Horse Race! yes, the whole country stops to watch the Melbourne Cup, a 2 mile Group1 worth about 10 million smackers

KT–Doesn’t schizoid describe Ernst best?

Murph – I’m sorry but know you’re making a difference locally as you did two years ago with the Lysistrata women!

What’s shakin PPO?

Sab….the police have rearmed…many want a riot…PROOF of how the SAVAGES really act.

glenn, it sure does.

Murph – they want riots? Try San Francisco or the Pumpkin celebrations. Those were RIOTS.

Choice- they want riots…it will vindicate the grand jury finding.

KT, haven’t been watching much US news, apart from the tragic rocket failurs for NASA and Branson.

WV hicks can riot too

though the funniest early comment about the celebration of the Giants’ win was that SF was rioting – they were dumping recyclables into the garbage! That was before the REAL problems broke out though.

PPO–sounds interesting. So you have a horse race going on Tuesday, and we do, too. And, we’re No. 1, cause so far there’s been about 40 billion spent on our “horse race”.

Rockets DO go boom from time to time. Risky business.

KT, Doesn’t Ernst represent the thinking of most elected Repubs. They hate the government, but “please give me a job with the government”.

PPO – I’m stunned that one of the pilots today LIVED.

Hey Ad, get any pot infused Gummy Bears?

glenn, at least our horses are all running in the same direction, but a lot of them are wearing blinkers as well!

Hey AdLib – welcome! You got swag and booty from trick or treat to share? GREAT to see you!

yes, CL, at least it wasn’t both.

If so, send them to PO BOX……………

Ad..if you are here….just a note…that problem with the page jumping down with each new comment…it is back.

PPO–good one. I’m afraid our spectators/voters are the ones wearing blinders.

Save me some Gummy Bears!

Murph – you do know that all electronic glitches happen to only liberals don’t you? It’s a plot.

AdLib – well OK see you soon then!

Yeah Murph. Black folks been blowing up buildings and committing terrorism since slavery.

It’s the Ghost in the Machine!

sabreen – REALLY? I never noticed.

Sab….as if they have something to complain about.

Hey AdLib. I’ll take whatever you’re giving up – as long as it’s chocolate.

CHoice…I re. these gltches as GOP plots (I can be a conspiracist too)

AdLib – I second Sabreen!

Murph–those uppity blacks. They had a roof over their heads and whips on their backs. What did they have to complain about?

Murph – you get no argument from me…

Well good peeps, have a great weekend and don’t eat too much candy!

KT – have a great weekend. Be well and enjoy the Autumn!

‘Night KT. I’m proud of myself that so far, I haven’t even bought any candy. However, when it goes on half price….

Good night KT. Have a great weekend and a happy Tuesday – I hope.

Thanks CL. Enjoy the left coast!

Thanks folks!

glenn – today my boss brought in Godiva salted chocolate caramel – and I thought I’d died and gone to heaven. Yum – keep an eye out for it!

KT – it’s getting righter every day I fear. But we do what we can.

CL–ooohh, that’s just mean! I love Godiva chocolates!

I want to say a word about the campaign I am working on right now. An entrenched GOP member of our state house with no Dem to oppose him. So the woman, college admin, stepped up. She is going to get killed in the election but she makes nothing but sense. Sense does not matter.

glenn – who doesn’t? That one was new to me. I recommend it totally.

Murph – it’s incredibly distressing to see sense a NON issue. I’m sorry she can’t make a dent there.

Murph, a journey starts with a single step, and you never know, the incumbent might step on their crank. Miracles do happen!

Murph, This is so over my head. It use to be “it’s the economy stupid”. Well look at how much better the economy is under a Dem President and Senate – even with the obstruction. If the Dems don’t hold the Senate than it’s not the economy. It’s something else.

BTW, everybody, when do you fall Back, or has it happened already?

PPO. Sunday night.

sabreen, we all know what the something else is. the GOP swearing not to do one thing as long as Obama’s in the White House

I have a question for my fellow Planeteers. When there is no Dem in a particular race on the ballot, do you all just not fill in that particular part, or do you do a write-in?

Well folks I gotta go. Work training tomorrow. nite!

byeee, Harleigh!

PPO–we fall back at 2:00 a.m EST tonight.

Sab, Pink, Choice….Obama is evil for many reasons. ANYthing he touches, believes in, advocates is evil therefore…. That is where we are

PPO. Yeah, but President Obama will STILL be in the WH for 2 more years. Where is the logic in their thinking?

Sabreen–isn’t it tomorrow night?

PPO–sorry, not tonight, tomorrow night, or 2:00 a.m. Sunday morning.

Sabreen, there is NO logic at all, is there?

‘Night, Harleigh. Have a good weekend, even if you do have to work.

Murph – we have had 40 years of growing conservatism that has failed utterly. Despite that and the rejection of Bush, the powers that be have pretended that things are WORSE now than before, and no one is laying it at the feet of the GOP. It will take time to make the point, but it requires us to take the long view. You made a HUGE dent in MO politics two years ago, and I hope some change will come this time, too. I fault the Dems and esp. the EmoProgs who are NOT Dems for a lot of the problems, but we slowly ARE making things better and can, i think, see change coming along the way. We cannot fix what is of 40 years duration in 6 years. We have to take the long view.’

ta, glenn. Will have to see when Vox starts next week my time. It does get confusing!

Nov 2, 2014 – Daylight Saving Time Ends When local daylight time is about to reach Sunday, November 2, 2014, 2:00:00 AM clocks are turned backward 1 hour to Sunday, November 2, 2014, 1:00:00 AM local standard time

CL, I thought Clinton fixed everything? You throwing him under the bus?

Sabreen – best thing about the turn back Saturday is an extra hour of sleep!

Don’t know if it has been discussed earlier, but what about the Al Jazeera report on the many thousands of voter reg denial all over the country. Why isn’t the MSM screaming?

JJF – you’re damned right I’m blaming Clinton who let so much that made the crisis happen in 2008 occur. He was and is cowardly.

Night Harleigh. Take care.

PPO =- the MSM is white that’s why.

Night Harleigh!!!

CL, Oh, silly me for missing that!

Sabreen–read somewhere yesterday that the turtle has already promised to block all of PBO’s nominations if repubs take the Senate

PPO – I suspect you missed nothing!!!

CL, can’t argue with you on that.

glenn – yes, I read the Turtle’s promise there, too.

PPO–whenever it’s your time, come join us!

cl

Choice- I think the GOP core knows the truth you speak and they are changing the rules, manipulating the voting process, seizing the media high ground, and altering the landscape to hold power no matter what.

PPO – OK I clicked on one of the faces and just got words – will that show up as a face when I post it?

CL, But I hate that it gets dark so early. My night vision is awful. And gawd, don’t let it rain.

cl, yes that will happen

Murph – that is all the GOP has left – lie, cheat, and steal.

PPO –

JJF…I am no fan of Bill Clinton or Hillary for that matter

PPO – Cool!

cl, all good qualities to be a politician

Murph – and I am NO fan of Robert Reich either. He’s the emoprog darling out here, and I detest him!

PPO – but that is precisely what Obama is NOT. I want an adult please. Not another insecure frat boy.

CL–Yes the face that matches the words shows up in your post. Just click on it.

PPO Efforts to suppress the vote are widespread in the US right now and under many guises.

glenn – just tried it, and yes, it works – fun!

CL–

glenn – LOL!!

Murph, what efforts?

MTS, it is utterly outrageous that in this day and age, voters are denied their constitutional rights.

JJF–Can’t answer for the rest of the country, but here in GA, 40,000 registrations are missing thanks to our SOS.

glenn and JJF – I think it’s Georgia with 40,000 registrations that disappeared then REappeared after the filing date. A judge dismissed them ALL. How terribly convenient.

The only way Repubs win is to cheat and Dems not show up. And then there are those Diebold machines I still don’t trust.

glenn – cross posted, but yes that is horrible!!!

Sabreen – who still HAS the Diebolds? CA ditched them.

PPO I agree

GOTV people!

All – I am seriously going to miss Holder for his aggressive voting rights work.

PPO–You got it!

Alright, folks, time for me to turn in. Hope everyone has a great weekend.

CL, I hope states have gotten rid of Diebold. I have not done any research on them.

Sabreen – I hope they are DOA everywhere.

Good night, glenn. Lovely to talk with you!

Nite glenn. Take care.

All – i also am signing off. I have to help people move tomorrow, and I’m not getting any younger! Hope to see you next week. Good night!

Good night CL. Hope to see you Tuesday, Friday or on the Twitter.

JJF…I know folks in Georgia who are part of a system of voter registration developed by GOP and Dems in a bipartisan voter ID bill passed 8 years ago. That system is being dismantled by the GOP in the GA state legislature. Why? It is working too well. GA has had increased participation across the board in all elections since then and that expanded electorate is what has given the Nunn and Carter campaigns their gas. So, we have a Sec of State losing 10’s of thousands of registration, or elminating voting structures that have been in place for 50 years just because (no reason)…..google voter suppression GOP and you get lots of news.

Goodnight all.

Maryland is Blue. We have some Red pockets, but overall the state is blue. Voting is really easy. Once you register no ID is required – as long as your address is the same. I voted the other day. The poll worker ask for your name and then ask you to give him/her your address and DOB. If it matches, that’s it. You go vote.

goodnight PPO

Nite PPO!

I find the whole argument of providing an ID as voter suppression a joke. You have to have an ID for everything. Even low income people getting a EBT card have to provide a government issued ID.

Well I’ll say good night, too. Take care everyone and Tuesday will be a great day for dems!

JJF….no argument with that…here is my concern…..id systems like Georgias took two years and millions of dollars to put into effect and it worked really well. GOP and Dems are both dishonest about this. Doing it the way GA did it is what is necessary but each has reasons to continue a culture of confusion around this. It is the same with immigration.

Good night Sabreen…nice chatting.

I think that the room has shrunk…so time to say so long….glad you were with us Beatle and Jumping.

‘gnight all

JJF are you still here?

yep

Hi….how did tonight go for you?

Still there?

It’s always fun to get hanged up on…

But I expect it

Well, given the dispositon of the crowd, I think you did well and I thought there was legit argument on both sides.

I think it’s funny when people lecture me on not having an open mind. I used to be a pro-choice liberal.

And I was GOP and very active.

Funny how that works huh?

It is. I am spending time at a newish site called Yabberz which has both conservatives and liberals in reidence and is really working at developing dialogue between and among them. I invite you to take a look. I am MurphtheSurf there too.

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What?

I’ll check it out.

When you get there you can search for me as MurphtheSurf and say “hello”. The site is VERY different.

Cool, have a good night!

Great!