• pinkpantheroz : Well, that’s it for moi. hope the glitches of the new system are worked out. I like it. Take care everyone, and I’ll see you in the Music Thread.

  • pinkpantheroz : Cheers, funk. Before you go, ponder this. Britain has so much to answer for. India/Pakistan, Ireland/Northern Ireland, Palestine/Israel . All partitioned and all have seen much tragedy as a reult.

  • Miles Long : Good night…

  • funksands : Night Sabreen, I’m right behind you. Pink, Miles have a good weekend!

  • funksands : Yet another example of well-meaning imperialist powers f-ing everything up.

  • Sabreen60 : Well folks, I’m out. Good night everyone. Take care.

  • Sabreen60 : Funk, It’s a terrible situation.

  • funksands : Night Glenn! Way to take one for the team!

  • Sabreen60 : Sounds like fund glenn. Good night and get plenty of rest.

  • funksands : Sabreen, there truly is no “solution” to this. I empathize with both sides in this. I agonize for the Palestinians and understand the Isrealis point of view. There is too much history, too much to forget and “get over”, too many extremists in power for this to end well. I’m beginning to think that only a Gordian Knot solution will work. And of course I have no idea what that would be.

  • pinkpantheroz : ‘night, KT

  • Sabreen60 : Good Night KT. Sleep well.

  • glenn : Night KT.

  • glenn : Okay, my friends, I’m “toast”. I spent two and a half hours today in an indoor trampoline place with thousands of screaming kids and music blaring at decibel levels not meant for human ears, so color me “done”. That one’s for you, Funk. Anyway, I hope everyone has a good weekend, and I’ll see you around.

  • KillgoreTrout : Hope to see you on the music thread tomorrow!

  • funksands : Night KT!

  • KillgoreTrout : Well folks, I bid you all adieu!

  • Sabreen60 : Yeah, Funk I know. But that doesn’t make it right. How do you throw a people out and tell them to be happy with being thrown out? Unless they kill off most of the Palestinians like the Native Americans this will never end.

  • funksands : Snowy

  • glenn : Funk–laundered and bleached to keep it white, right?

  • funksands : I like my history like I like my money…laundere d

  • Miles Long : Out of sight, out of mind?

  • funksands : I prefer not to think about that

  • funksands : Who?

  • glenn : Funk–don’t forget those landowners pulled themselves up by their bootstraps–afte r they committed genocide toward the Native Americans.

  • funksands : Who?

  • Miles Long : Yep, and thank God we imported all those black and yellow folks to tidy up the place for the conquering whites!! Woohoo!

  • KillgoreTrout : No disagreement there.

  • funksands : Miles, this country was built solely on the gumption and hard work of white Christian land-holders. Everyone knows that [smiley]

  • glenn : KT–I disagree. The repubs have been trying to tell us for years that the US is a country for only white people.

  • Miles Long : So what does that mean, KT?

  • KillgoreTrout : Miles, before Europeans got here it wasn’t one country, but 500 nations.

  • KillgoreTrout : OK Sabreen I got it now.

  • glenn : PPO–thanks for the link. I scanned it quickly; the last line is the best. “It is high time Australia realised that pursuing an ethical and honest approach to the conflict is in the interests of Palestinians and Israelis.” Substitute “United States” for “Australia” and it sounds right. The problem is, who gets to determine what is “ethical and honest”? Certainly not our repub politicians.

  • Sabreen60 : You read it wrong KT. I’m asking if America is suppose to be a country that embraces all peoples and the white supremacy advocates are wrong in wanting this to be a “white only” country, why is is ok for Israel to want to be “Jewish” only country.

  • Miles Long : I guess if genecide is a viable solution, the US was “made” for white folks.

  • KillgoreTrout : No miles,

  • Miles Long : KT are you forgetting that this country was already inhabited when white folks from Europe stopped by?

  • KillgoreTrout : I’d say it’s been a country for white people since it was founded. We only pretend it’s for everybody.

  • funksands : Sabreen, I think you know the answer to that. Isreal was created specifically by the British to settle Jews. The US was not set aside by the British for the white race

  • Miles Long : The total aid the US gives to Israel amounts to about $140B a year. The aid this country gives to the Palestinians amounts to merely millions…

  • KillgoreTrout : You said America can’t be a country for white people?

  • Sabreen60 : KT, I don’t know? How did you read it?

  • KillgoreTrout : Sabreen, did I read your comment wrong?

  • glenn : Sabreen–good question.

  • pinkpantheroz : glenn, here’s an article from the Age newspaper: «link»

  • funksands : There is no solution other than two states, but there ain’t much land left to divide up.