• AdLib : Night!

  • AdLib : Sounds good KT, looking forward to the Music Thread! And the Sunday Funnies, Sally!

  • AdLib : KT – I’ve come to see that The Constitution doesn’t protect us, only pols and courts that respect it do. If we lose on those fronts, we lose on the Constitution…w hich is why elections really matter. And that reminds me, I was thinking that if Hillary gets elected and serves two terms, it’s pretty likely the SCOTUS would have to change to a moderate majority. That has got to have the Kochs and Repubs freaked out.

  • KillgoreTrout : Well Ad and Sally I think I’ll call it a night and start the music thread. Have a great weekend.

  • KillgoreTrout : Ad, our only real defense is the US constitution. If that goes, then the shit will hit the fan for us all.

  • AdLib : KT – Can you imagine how much it cost to do that? Taxpayer money going to these overkill military attacks on our fellow Americans? We live in worrying times.

  • AdLib : After seeing how cities used military tactics to eradicate OWS, it should be clear to all that if a mayor or governor gives the order, any violence could be smashed military style by local police.

  • KillgoreTrout : I bet they felt pretty silly.

  • AdLib : And police forces keep launching military-style sieges on homes. At HP they mentioned it happened on a farm because they suspected pot was being grown but they only found okra and other veggies.

  • KillgoreTrout : Yeah, I think any armed insurrection would be put down pretty quickly. These nuts think it’s still the 1700s.

  • KillgoreTrout : Sally, that’s true. Our police forces are becoming more and more paramilitary.

  • AdLib : KT – Yep, an AK-47 in the hands of a Bagger vs. a drone missile? I’ll take any bets on that!

  • KillgoreTrout : Have a good one Murph.

  • SallyT : Good night, Murph!

  • AdLib : Sounds great, Murph! Looking forward to it! Get some rest and have a great weekend!

  • KillgoreTrout : Ad, they would very soon find their little pop guns pretty useless.

  • AdLib : Murph – Well put, they are indeed. This is the blowback of a cynical political ploy, to pander to the racists and ignorant in the South to counter the Dems and the Golem they created to battle Dems has taken control and turned on them.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Good night, KT, Sally and Ad.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : OH MY…almost quarter past midnight in my little corner of creation….time to nod off….this has been a great discussion tonight…thanks . Ad Lib I will confer with you re. my two proposed articles articles.

  • AdLib : KT – I agree, the Baggers get off on scaring people with their guns and violent threats but faced with an Apache helicopter, they would scream like little girls and run.

  • SallyT : The way some of the big cities have their police outfitted, I think they might pee up against them, too.

  • AdLib : Sally – True, my point is that Iran’s Revolutionary Guards would be even more hostile towards the will of the people. The Egyptian military tolerated democracy, that wouldn’t happen with The Guard in Iran.

  • KillgoreTrout : Murph, or a ditch they keep digging.

  • AdLib : Murph – Yes, as Gandhi said, an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. And the Irish people realized that.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad Lib…I increasingly think of the GOP as a party lost in a wilderness of its own making.

  • KillgoreTrout : Ad, I think they would soil themselves if they ever experienced America’s military might. Of course those weirdos always say that many in the military would “defect,” to their side. I highly doubt that would happen.

  • SallyT : Egypt’s Military hates the MB.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Sally…ah, I thought you had a question. Sorry.

  • AdLib : Sally – I would doubt it but even if they did, they would be more dictatorial than even Egypt’s military and I couldn’t see them going along with the majority’s will. Word is that the military may actually be the ones really in control in Iran, sort of a power-sharing thing with the Supreme Leader.

  • SallyT : I know, Murph, that was my point. They wouldn’t.

  • KillgoreTrout : Hey Sally. I don’t think so.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Sally- the military is built around the Revolutionary Guard which is under the authority of the Supreme Ayatollah and his Council who has to approve the election of the President and all of his major appointments/act ions. I think this an agreed upon message.

  • AdLib : I wonder, if the GOP was to keep going in the same direction and became a permanent minority party, if some Baggers would ever follow through on their threats and form a political militia insurgency. We’ve seen crazies scattered around the US, if they saw their party couldn’t win power anymore, wonder if they would go the insurgent route? Then again, most seem like cowards feigning bravery and America isn’t really fertile ground for military insurgencies.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Ad..re. Ireland…IRA action led to aggressive British reaction…and then more IRA action leading to…I think that both Ulster and Eire got tired of the cycle – defanging the IRA was a good way to start.

  • SallyT : But would the military in Iran go up against their President?

  • KillgoreTrout : Agreed Murph. SF has been with and even against the IRA at many times in their long history.

  • AdLib : Murph – Right, exactly why the unseating of the MB from power in Egypt has stunned and silenced Iran. Nothing to brag about now, being part of the MB’s attack on Egypt’s democracy.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : KT- Sinn Fein and the IRA were once joined at the hip but have grown further and further apart for the reasons we have been talking about. SF has emerged as an agent for deep, but peaceful change..especial ly in the emerging (and up and down) economy.

  • AdLib : Murph – I think that’s what pushed people away from supporting them more than any other one thing, their terrorism and killing of innocent people with no conscience. The British government was brutal and killed and imprisoned many innocent Irish too but the IRA was the one staging terrible bombing attacks on innocents.