Vox Populi – 9-7-2012

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  • AdLib : Same here pal, get some rest and enjoy your hard earned victory!

  • KQµårk 死神 : I gotta get some rest too but it’s been great.

  • KQµårk 死神 : I think that most of the ideology of the GOP is greed save for the religious right and even they are buying into the greed is good religion so that is right wing ideology.

  • AdLib : Romney doesn’t have an ideology aside from greed. He’ll do whatever, take whatever position, say whatever lie, as long as he gets what he wants. And this time, the brat ain’t gettin’ the lollypop!

  • AdLib : Night Murph! Have a great weekend!

  • MurphTheSurf3 : Well I am calling it a night….great discussion but I am barely awake.

  • KQµårk 死神 : Yup and the important part is I don’t think that candidate exists in the GOP today. No way the other GOP candidates could do better than Romney. About the only meme that persists that shouldn’t is Romney is some kind of moderate in extremist’s clothing when I think he’s much more comfortable being a right wing ideologue that the candidate he was in MA. But who really knows with him because he won’t tell us anything about himself.

  • AdLib : I think that even if the Repubs had a great candidate, Obama would still be competitive but he might be in Romney’s position, being down a bit and needing to pull out a win by Nov. No changing that Obama is very liked, would still be the case if Jeb Bush was the nom for the GOP. But I wouldn’t be as confident about Obama if a reasonable Repub was running against him. Obama was very beatable this year because of the economy. The Repubs are snatching defeat from the jaws of possible vistory.

  • KQµårk 死神 : Murph that was simply horrible optics. Almost as bad as Kerry’s wind surfing picture.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : KQ and AL…spoke with a GOP friend today and I just remember how ticked off he was that Romney was vacationing the week after the RNC….and the shots of him spinning around in a luxury cruiser really ground him down…

  • KQµårk 死神 : That really has to be the only reason AdLib because like you said it’s hurting not helping them.

  • KQµårk 死神 : The GOP has become so steeped in lies, negativity and hate now I really think if they lose this election that’s the reason why. If they had a candidate who showed a smidgen of practicality and positivity they would be ahead by a wide margin. But they just are not capable of that anymore.

  • AdLib : And Romney has to rely on that lying ad campaign…becau se what else does he have to campaign on? He doesn’t want to talk about Bain, his taxes, Mormonism, Massachusetts, Romneycare, the Ryan Budget, ending Medicare as we know it, on and on. Really, it’s all he’s got and now that it’s been so exposed as a lie…all he can do is keep hoping some low info voters will be fooled.

  • AdLib : KQ – My thinking is similar to what Clinton said. If people become aware that it is a lie, each time they see those ads, it will be a commercial for Obama because people will be reminded repeatedly of what a liar Romney is.

  • AdLib : KQ – I do think that the huge MSM pushback against Ryan for his huge lies and dishonesty was a slam heard round the nation. Even indies who don’t watch cable news heard about Ryan being a liar. Two GOPs in a pod.

  • KQµårk 死神 : Yet they keep using the lie which again is political malpractice by the Romney campaign. There is simply nothing more they can get out of that lie now and they can’t help themselves.

  • AdLib : Murph – Not to mention, Obama was the only mixed race child whose mother had to go on Welfare. That’s pretty incredible, from Welfare to Work…in the White House!

  • KQµårk 死神 : Oh absolutely AdLib that was a speech right out of Faux News. The problem is most people don’t watch Faux News even if they think they do.

  • AdLib : KQ – I think it’s part of the Repub bubble. “Everyone around us is stealing and isn’t getting caught, you can steal too and of course you won’t get caught!” In their bubble, lying is just sensible strategy because the ends always justify the means.

  • KQµårk 死神 : :lol: I knew that you would my brother.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : AL Maher showed three childhood photos in his show tonight…one of Ryan, one of Romney, one of Obama…one mansion, one upper middle class home, and one cottage. Guess which one was the biggest step up to the Oval Office.

  • KQµårk 死神 : It’s like when a football team gives a terrible performance AdLib sometimes they get mired in their own newspaper clippings. Remember when the Eagles were the ‘dream team’ last year.

  • AdLib : KQ – Goo-goo-ga-joob!

  • AdLib : Murph – That’s what I was hoping. He comes off as a snotty little brat, is a career politician with no meaningful experience in the real world and grew up in wealth. How do regular people who are Repubs relate to that?

  • KQµårk 死神 : AdLib I am the Walrus.

  • KQµårk 死神 : AdLib I’ve never seen a politician so thoroughly throw themselves under the bus like that before. I think it was pure hubris and naivete for Ryan to think he could get away with lying that much.

  • AdLib : Does Ryan really have any credibility anymore? If he does, won’t Biden pound it out of him in the debate?

  • MurphTheSurf3 : AL gets little respect in my neck of the woods- he comes off as a young smart ass to the farmers and blue collar guys in my neck of the woods.

  • AdLib : KQ – Me, myself, I, you, him and that other guy?

  • AdLib : Murph – I wonder, does anyone other than RW Repubs give Ryan any credibility to anything he says anymore after his lie-filled speech?

  • KQµårk 死神 : Who’s this we you speak of ;-)

  • MurphTheSurf3 : AL good catch…he does go on to say the President but I think he is trying to correct and it will not ork.

  • AdLib : KQ – Then maybe we need to write such an article for The Planet?

  • KQµårk 死神 : That was one of the stupid reasons for picking Ryan. Romney can’t even fully attack Washington now because Ryan voted for all the bad things that got us here.

  • AdLib : Murph, I saw that clip and it’s even worse, he blamed “the leadership in Washington”…h e’s part of the leadership in Washington as is Boehner and Cantor!

  • KQµårk 死神 : Exactly AdLib unfortunately I only saw one article that really put it in those terms.

  • KQµårk 死神 : If people thought the recriminations flew after the McCain lose wait if Romney loses. He’s a very very poor loser and the moderates and baggers will have a full on war. We gotta remember the only election Romney ever won was at the height of the GOP brand in 2002 after 911 and before Iraq.

  • MurphTheSurf3 : AL….Ryan today said that “Washington is at fault” a slip on his part but I expect the Dems to use it to make your point.

  • AdLib : KQ – I learned that many years ago, when someone who’s nice to you is horrible to someone else, it means they are horrible and will eventually turn that horribleness on you because, as you point out with the frog and scorpion, it is a part of their nature.

  • AdLib : KQ – The whole jobs figures thing is BS anyway and should be exposed as that. Who was in charge when the economy was sabotaged and all the jobs were caused to be lost? Repubs. Who’s been blocking every jobs plan in DC? Repubs. How is this Obama’s fault? Why should the numbers be laid at his feet and not the Repubs?