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  • VegasBabe : Hi Folks. I ama not sure if any of you have heard the sad news about Hume. Apparently he passed away Friday, succumbing to lung cancer I believe.

  • AdLib : Well, I have a delicious Canwich loitering around the house where I usually stalk. Goodnight all and thanks for another very enjoyable edition of Vox Populi!

  • AdLib : Sounds great, so good to see ya! Sleep well!!!

  • VegasBabe : I hear ya Adlib. Course, I think your giving this boy wayyyyyyy to much credit. I don’t believe he set up anything, it was all ESPN hype. They love a story. Anyway, I’ll c’ya next week? Same time, same place? Off to bed now for me. Nite all!

  • AdLib : VB – What bothered me is that instead of just putting out a press release he set up a big one hour special on ESPN to make his announcement. That reeks of ego. I mean, he did self-title himself “King”. As far as the actual decision, I don’t have anything against him for going to the Heat. As you say, you’ve got one career, you do what you think is best. I’m just a bit tired of all the pandering to one’s own ego from all directions in our society.

  • AdLib : CL – Wonderful to see you! Get some rest and try a Canwich before bed! Night!

  • AdLib : CL – My naivete about racism was a problem of subjectivity. Growing up in L.A. where there isn’t open racism (as I grew up, I learned about the silent racism and geographical separations in the city by race), it was not until I spent extended time in the South that I discovered that racism was not dying a quiet death but was alive and well. Obama’s presidency brought the racism out across the nation, like a bear awakening from his hibernation, it had been in our nation all the time. Very sad, the future really wasn’t here.

  • VegasBabe : I wish you’d stay choicelady but I hear ya. I gotta work tmw so I’m not long either. Sleep well.

  • VegasBabe : YIKES…say it ain’t so Adlib. He can no more control the media hype than Obama or you or I. He had time to make a decision and he took that time. He gave the Cavaliers 7 years and that’s long enough. My son is waaaayyy up in the high country of Yosemite (he’s 23 and a student) and not only was this big news, but they have no reception up there so he called me last nite to find out what was going on. Apparently, in the sports world, this is really really big. It’s his life, do what you gotta do. Life is short.

  • choicelady : Dear friends – I’m dragging again. Long day and longer tomorrow. I shall bid you all good night. Hope to talk again next week! Hugs and kisses!

  • choicelady : VB – I hoped he’d be stand up and STAY with Cleveland. Dance with the one who brung ya. Oh, well.

  • AdLib : VB – I actually think a lot less of Lebron, not because he went to Miami but because of his massive ego to have this huge event to in essence, elevate himself and diss and stomp the heart of Cleveland in a big media event.

  • choicelady : AdLib – I’m with you. I tend not to think in those terms, though there are two expressions I have heard people say SO often I need to be on guard. (Never mind which!!) I never was raised that way. Someday I’ll do a riff on how utterly ignorant I was about racism and racial terms. Just for starters, when the uproar occurred over “flesh colored band aids” I understood it – but NOT because “flesh” was the white appropriation of skin but because the COLOR flesh was the ONLY color they came in. I did not know flesh meant skin – it was in my crayolas, so I thought it was just a term for A color. EVen as a kid I thought Bandaids should have come in ALL colors, IMHO – brown, black, sepia, flesh…. So I got the point even when I did not get the point.

  • VegasBabe : Jenuwin…I see you but your not talking…join in.

  • AdLib : VB – Assholes are in all races and religions, that word is indeed an equal opportunity one.

  • VegasBabe : Wow Adlib, that’s really cool. I guess it’s just the LAPD who have the real problems with races then. Not being funnee but they’ve had their share of known problems. Let’s move on and talk of other matters, something more FUN. Lebron’s going to MIAMI….I was routin’ for Chicago, but Miami’s cool, agreed?

  • AdLib : VB – I can only speak for myself but racial slurs just don’t slip out of my mouth. They’re locked behind razor wire and they don’t get time off for good behavior. Yes, I agree, there can be some people who may have grown up around people who used slurs against others and mess up and feel bad about it. However, I was fortunate to have grown up in this melting pot of L.A. and the usage of slurs was very rare.

  • choicelady : VB – YES!!!!! The all-encompassing term!!! You just created the color blind society. Asshole! Anyone can qualify! Everyone is equal in their assholedom. Perfect!

  • choicelady : VB -we’re waiting on your apple martini. ADLib – we’re seeing CA being hornswoggled again with the “outsider” brush on Meg and Carly. We keep doing this – the very person who has the least idea of how to get things done is preferable to the one who has done them. If we lose Boxer and (hold my nose) Brown to Whitman and Fiorina, we’re doomed as a state.

  • VegasBabe : Oh choicelady, I am the last person to ask that question. I don’t ordinarily know the current terminology. I’d have to ask my son and he’s in Yosemite working for the summer. I honest to goodness don’t know, in all sincerity. when people piss me off, no matter their color, I usually just say ASSHOLE!

  • choicelady : VB – I’d think that would depend on who *I* was! I[‘m not sure white people can use ANY derogatory term without being at least sure of their superiority uber alles. If you can think of a derogatory term FOR us white people, let me know. “Honky” does not count – we English folks made that up about Eastern Europeans (“Bohunks” – “HUnkies” – Honkey) so we can hardly be insulted by our OWN term. I can’t think of one single term. That says a whole lot about who’s in control.

  • AdLib : CL – I heard someone on tv ask a great question about this, why so many Americans seem to like a candidate who is not educated or experienced at the job they’re running for. Bush, Schwarzenegger, Palin, Angle, etc. DO they just want someone that they can relate to? Is it vanity, they want to see themselves in a candidate and they know they wouldn’t know anything either?

  • VegasBabe : ahem…ah..err.. .waitin’ on that amen folks. COME ON….people say stewpid stuff ALL OF THE TIME, and in this instance, Mel is undoubtedly a racist. But if my neighbor gets pissed off for some stewpid reason and mutters…”nigg ers” of if you’ve been RAISED to use that terminology this does NOT necessarily make you a racist. hiccup…just a minute, I need another apple martini :)

  • choicelady : VB – I take your point! I guess it’s not Harry’s physical wussiness that people mind, it’s his mental sogginess. I will agree on that. I just see too many good people pushed aside for higher office since they are not ‘telegenic’ enough, and that worries me. I also get upset when I hear or read someone disparaging a candidate’s intelligence. That’s very worrisome.

  • VegasBabe : and by the way, JUST because you call me a nigger DOESN’T automatically make you a racist. Can I get an amen?

  • AdLib : VB – Gibson’s father was an extremist antisemitic loon, the nut doesn’t fall far from the tree. Still, as you say, that doesn’t negate that this woman is a nut too.

  • VegasBabe : YES, where is Kquark. I worry bout that boy, he’s not well. Anything shareable without violating confidences would be appreciated.

  • choicelady : BTW – digressing – anyone know where KQuark is? I’ve not read things from him lately though I’ve been more out than in on the Planet. Is everyone OK?

  • VegasBabe : If you gonna get in bed with politics choice lady, then you damn well be ready to fight to the end, no more whiners, no more bleeders. Remember, there elected officials who are fighting for the people. We’re the people, FIGHT DAMN IT, or get the helll outta the way.

  • choicelady : VB – your view of Mel is kind and honorable. That’s nice to read. Too easy to make a total cartoon of him, and I like your compassion.

  • VegasBabe : That’s exactly how I feel too Adlib. I would have loved it to be Durbin but, that wasn’t the cards which were dealt, alas.

  • choicelady : VB and everyone – at what point did we start demanding that elected officials be superpowers? Harry Reid is not strong – but neither were Adlai Stevenson, etc., and it seems to me that over the years we’ve started demanding Star Quality, muscles, designer wear, etc. rather than valuing intelligence. Eisenhower was a wuss but popular. He was NOT a strong leader at all. Yes – good WW track record, but he was a pushover as president. We are looking for a savior. It will never come from a decent person. It will come ONLY from the right – a dictator. And yes, it CAN happen here. Almost did and could do again.

  • AdLib : VB – I agree about Reid, I have not liked him for some time and earlier in the year, when he was allowing the Senate to destroy the heart of every bill for change, I wasn’t going to be upset at losing him and possibly ending up with a real fighter like Dick Durbin as Majority Leader. Now, I’m concerned about the Dems losing too many seats and no way do I want that insane Tea Angler in the Senate.

  • VegasBabe : Your right choicelady. But I hate to see someone getting set up….no matter who. It just doesn’t feel right, ya know? It’s not…..honest. Not to say he doesn’t deserve it. Still…it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

  • VegasBabe : I have met and I like Oscar Goodman, the current mayor Adlib. Rarely do I hear sound criticism about him. And he’s very down to earth too.

  • choicelady : AdLib – well said – wheel of misfortune! Do you remember when he was FUNNY? When he was NICE? What the hell happened to him? VB – I do understand he’s gotten set up, but what did he THINK was happening to him? No one can run their mouth like that if they are in the public eye. There is always someone listening!

  • VegasBabe : Well, Reid comes across as…..wishy washy.,…withou t cojones if you will, this is a known fact in these parts. Plus, the mormon thing doesn’t help. Obama has come to support him and this may help. I am not reading anything about it because I am scared beyond belief that he might lose this seat.

  • AdLib : VB – Sounds so odd for a Hollywood marriage.

  • choicelady : VB – what are you reading or hearing about why Angle is leading right now? That is beyond scary!

  • VegasBabe : It’s pretty ugly I admit, the Mel thing. It’s difficult to imagine him recovering from this. I AM NOT DEFENDING his conduct or his behavior. BUT, this skank he got himself hooked up with, imho, set his dumb ass up and he is gonna pay the consequences for a very long time. Meanwhile, he remains a racist, an alcoholic, a troubled soul, and shes gonna walk with MILLIONS. She played her cards right

  • AdLib : Mel has now attacked Jews, Mexicans, Women, Gays…I wonder if he spins a Wheel of Misfortune each day to decide who’s next.

  • AdLib : VB – There have been some pretty unusual people as Mayor in LV and running for offices in the state. I knew one, there are some real characters there.

  • choicelady : But Mel will blame it on the Jews. It’s his best thing. Hell it’s his ONLY thing.

  • VegasBabe : I’m gonna hope and pray Reid takes it, he’s who I voted for, he’s not my favorite Democrat by far, but he’s what we got.

  • choicelady : Mel Gibson – Mr. Society of St. Pius X more over the top than Opus Dei – got FIRED????? Well, there IS a God, and she is clearly pissed.

  • Questinia : Yoiks!