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AdLib On July - 3 - 2015
There were more stories this week than companies dropping Trump, so much to chat about so good thing Vox Populi begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT! Join our live chat about the week’s events tonight with our special guest host, Choicelady! Enjoy the verbal fireworks tonight to kick off your 4th of July weekend!
AdLib 7 days ago
Evenin’ everyone. Be sure to say hi when you come aboard. Hoping for a great conversation tonight. As AdLib notes, we have a plethora of subjects! (‘Always wanted to use that word, plethora…) See you soon!
choicelady

7 days ago
BURNING QUESTION: Is the comb over Trump’s running mate. If so what are the implications for the free world?
choicelady

7 days ago
HAPPY 4TH JULY! ( well, it’s already Saturday here)!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Hi PPO – yes, you get to celebrate ahead of us. How are you?
choicelady

7 days ago
Hi, Choice. Not bad. Piddling rain today and chilly.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Oh what I would not give to have that. It’s 97 (F) and dry. Ugh!
choicelady

7 days ago
what part of the US are you in? Hope you’re nowhere near those bushfires
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
I see the Latino Leaders are telling the GOP to Dump Trump. Good.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
No – in Sacramento, CA away from the fires. It’s scary though – could be us any moment. I see Saskatchewan is ablaze!
choicelady

7 days ago
PPO – I LOVE that The Donald has pissed off the Latino community. Of course he shot back that “he loves THE Mexicans” but it’s not helping.
choicelady

7 days ago
Not nice! I was 200 yards from one of the huge blazes in Sydney in the ’90s. Scary indeed.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Oh gosh – that’s indeed scary!
choicelady

7 days ago
CL, yes, of course he loves the Mexicans – as cheap labor in his casinos and building sites.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
He says that some of them own his apartments. But “they” send us their dregs – as if the gov’t puts them on buses and transports them here to rape and pillage.
choicelady

7 days ago
Hey Sabreen!
choicelady

7 days ago
Hi folks. Hope all is well.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
How are you and how are things in your neck of the woods?
choicelady

7 days ago
hi, sabreen. No complaints.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
OK in CA except it’s hot and dry. Could REALLY stand some rain, but it’s not even the season.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL, yes, AND they import all the drugs, don’t they? Conveniently forgetting that it is the demand from th US that fuels the drug imports in the first place.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO – AND forgetting the little factor of the Iran Contra drug running. I am one white person who totally believes that the Reagan admin. deliberately introduced that shit into US inner cities. It’s our own ‘Opium Wars’ against our own people.
choicelady

7 days ago
Heard Trump is pointing to some immigrant who allegedly raped someone as proof that Mexicans rape.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
A couple of days ago a Latino assaulted a camera crew ON camera in SF so that’s another bit of ‘evidence’. That the guy was insane was neither here nor there. He’s Mexican. All that counts. The racists are EATING IT UP.
choicelady

7 days ago
Didn’t hear that, CL. Wow, are there no depths to which the racists will not sink?
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
CL – Yeah. I read Trump is surging in the polls.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
PPO – In a word? No.
choicelady

7 days ago
Sabreen – that’s fine with me. Let him become the nominee. I am far more concerned about Bernie.
choicelady

7 days ago
I hear you CL. I think Bernie is going to flame out. Based on polls (should say take with a grain of salt) Hillary is still cleaning is clock. There is also a “draft Biden” out there. But I really don’t think Biden is going to run.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Happy 4th to you all.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
We are a small crowd I see
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
The thing that get’s me about Bernie is that he’s not saying anything that PBO hasn’t been saying since day one.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Hiya Murph!
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Hey Murph – Happy 4th to you, too!
choicelady

7 days ago
Hey Murph! I think a lot of Planeteers are readying for Sat.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Sabreen – I am with you on every point. I’m furious that people think Bernie is saying something NEW,
choicelady

7 days ago
Happy 4th to everyone, also!
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Hy Sabreen, Choice and and PPO…..we few, we happy few…we band of Planeteers!
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
What are we chatting about?
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I don’t know if our few numbers means people have other REALLY good plans for the weekend, but we are the mighty!
choicelady

7 days ago
Murph, Latinos pissed off at Trump!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Murph – nothing but Bernie and how he’s pretending to be new.
choicelady

7 days ago
And Bernie!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Murph – and PPO’s point about Trump pissing off Latinos!
choicelady

7 days ago
SHHHHH everybody, dont diss Bernie in front of Nirek!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO – well that is an easy target….since Trump’s empire is being yanked out from under him…..all he has is brand ….. hate USA
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
We can talk about something else – Trump’s combover…
choicelady

7 days ago
Bernie- he talks a good game….but his record of doing is slow and low.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Absolutely Murph. Someone posted his record on Twitter.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Sab…funny
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Nire? Did not know. Look – I was a paid staffer for McGovern. I loved him and worked my socks off for him in CA Assembly District work. But Bernie is even LESS interesting, and if he pushes ahead with this very limited message and policy base, we’re back to 1972.
choicelady

7 days ago
Murph, I haven’t seen much Down Under on Bernie, so I can’t say much
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Sabreen – I’d love to see his record. Any chance of capturing it and posting here?
choicelady

7 days ago
Just as Dems are pleased to see the GOP clown car rolling on by, so the GOP is pleased to see Bernie…so say I
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
PPO – he is a progressive on certain issues. He’s been MIA on ALL racial justice issues for years. Sabreen was it you who posted at TPV that he has had 3 bills in the Senate, two of which were renaming post offices? There is nothing but bombast there.
choicelady

7 days ago
Murph, surely one Bernie couldn’t possibly balance a clown car full of GOPTPers
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
CL….Bernie is perfect for Vt. where jabber is progress….note how its plan for a single payer health care plan fell flat….Bernie was sure it was THE model for the future.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – I have received warnings from various Twitter accounts that some of the pro-Bernie hype is actually GOP efforts to divide Demems
choicelady

7 days ago
Murph – when PBO gave full support for VT to create single payer, Bernie never gave him one iota of support or thanks for doing that.
choicelady

7 days ago
cl, the dangers of uncontrolled social media.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO- there is more in the GOP car for sure but my point is that for the GOP, Bernie is a weight from the left on Hillary.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
PPO -Yup. It can be used for good or for ill!
choicelady

7 days ago
Sabreen60

7 days ago
CL…I beleive that this is true….a quasi 3rd Party candidate in Dem clothing
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Oh, right, Murph. I still don’t think he’ll make much traction in the Primaries
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Maybe AdLib will fix the tweet.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Sabreen – THANK YOU for this!
choicelady

7 days ago
Sabreen….my hero!
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Or just click on the pic.twitter and read it there.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Murph – he has yet to SAT he’s a Dem either. So if he’s not, he’s actually running against Jill Stein who has also declared.
choicelady

7 days ago
BRB, smoko!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
CL – You’re welcome.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
All – I am getting used to a new laptop. Please forgive ALL typos!!!
choicelady

7 days ago
Murph – I wish. When I grow up I want to be like you and CL
Sabreen60

7 days ago
My question is what do we do if Bernie actually represents a true threat to any other Dem? He is so shallow!!!
choicelady

7 days ago
CL…..yes……notice that despite efforts to anoint him as Liz Warren’s Stand In….liz is silent…Nancy Pelosi is not…She is no fan of Bernie.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
So what say you about the young lady Bre Newsome?
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Sabreen – I was thinking I wanted to grow up to be just like YOU!
choicelady

7 days ago
Sabreen….my goodness….why? You are pretty darn great as you are.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
You two are doing some excellent work. I know I need to do more.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Murph – I’m with you. Sabreen purely rocks!
choicelady

7 days ago
Sab….one grows where one is and you are a high growth asset.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
SAbfreen – I learn from you daily. You are “doing more”!
choicelady

7 days ago
Ok. Maybe I’ll climb a flag pole.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Sabreen – if you climb a flagpole at what is OUR age, I will have to do the same and will NEVER forgive you!
choicelady

7 days ago
Oh come on, CL. Put it on your “bucket list”. We can do it!
Sabreen60

7 days ago
LOL!!! I’d end up IN the damned bucket – afraid of heights!!!!
choicelady

7 days ago
Dear heart – you are takaing the bree part of your name way much to heart!!!!
choicelady

7 days ago
CL – We MUST conquer our fears!
Sabreen60

7 days ago
OK – but I’m working on others, not the one that lets me (yet) climb flagpoles!!!
choicelady

7 days ago
To change the subject. Is this the first time the PBO administration has announced some concern about terrorist attacks?
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Flagpoles notwithstanding, did anyone see that the DOJ has found that Roof was most likely working WITH other white supremacists? Others may be charged! ch
choicelady

7 days ago
Sabreen – yes, and that does give me worry. They are NOT oriented to hype the way Bush was.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL – I read that and I’m not surprised.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Sabreen, I don’t think so. I seem to remember a heightened alert staus during the 10th Anniversary of 9/11
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
CL…I did not see that…I will need to search for it.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
PPO – but that is about the last time – 2011. For them to be issuing warnings is pretty scary.
choicelady

7 days ago
Cl, perhaps, but ISIS wasn’t a big item then
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO – while ISIS is still not a huge group, all it takes is one guy thinking he’s fulfilling prophecy. In this regard they are like the radical Christian extremists!
choicelady

7 days ago
CL, the thing that is scary about ISIS is their competence in brainwashing via social media, and the seemingly endless supply of arms, money and cannon fodder
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO – Indeed. I’m not a mad fan of Anonymous because it’s done harm as well as good, but if they can hack and destroy some of those recruiting sites, well….
choicelady

7 days ago
CL, isn’t is funny that radical Christian extremists cannot see the similarities? No, not funny, but worrisome.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO – My take is that we have more acts of terrorism from hate groups in this country than by ISIS or any other Muslim group. I’m not saying we shouldn’t be concerned. I’m just saying that we don’t seem to be that concerned about home grown terror.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
With all of the oil money, why can’t the moderate Arab states launch their own anti-ISIS sites?
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
There is a game of chicken going on with ISIS….I think that there is a beleif on the part of many of the Mideastern Powers that the U.S. will eventually weigh in as it has before, but Obama has learned the lessons the GOP refuses to acknowledge.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Years ago there was an outstanding book, “Terror in the Mind of God” by a professor at UC Santa Barbara who inteviwed bin Laden, the Army of God and the Japanese ricin poison group. They were identical.
choicelady

7 days ago
Murph – I totally agree. His determination to turn direction over to local nations confounds 70 years of US imperial action and upsets everyone including the nations he’s respecting.
choicelady

7 days ago
Murph – What I don’t understand is why ME countries aren’t doing much about ISIS, because they are killing other Muslims. In fact, I confess, there is a lot I don’t understand about the wealthy ME countries.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
With you on that, Sabreen. the ME is still very tribal, so that may account for things we don’t understand. But I’m with POTUS about staying as far out as we can
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Sabreen – a lot comes down to Sunni v Shia (think Catholics v Protestants) with wahabbism (that I know NOTHING about save it exists) to boot. It’s not radically different from our own internal Christian problems, but it is confusing geo politically.
choicelady

7 days ago
Yes, CL, apparently thatere are as many Islamic Sects as there are Christian. Very confusing
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Sabreen….the Sunni/Shia divide in the Middle East is THE factor in all of this.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
BRB
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
CL – I know Sunni v Shia. But it doesn’t seem to matter to the powers-that-be that ISIS does not discriminate. I bomb doesn’t know the difference.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
All – what interests me here is that PBO is not isolationist. He is adamant about turning over local governance and control to local people. This is the first unraveling of the 1919 accords that did so much damage – it is a careful respect for soverignty,
choicelady

7 days ago
ISIS apparently does pass on those (Sunni I think) who can answer their ‘test questions’. How creepy is THAT?
choicelady

7 days ago
ISIS is solidly Sunni, but radicalized and thus regarding ANY power that seeks peace or even plain coexistence with the Shia as heretics/apostates and thus worthy of death.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
CL…with you in that interpretation….The U.S. as ally is quite different than as Overlord/Warlord
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – they are totally scary and so much like our most extreme Dominionists it’s horrifying.
choicelady

7 days ago
Murph – I believe that ISIS really doesn’t give a rat’s ass. I think they use religion to do justify their hatred and killing.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
CL…as you pointed out earlier, zealotry and radicalism in the name of faith creates common ground among those with very different creeds.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Sab….that is possible….certainly the Baathists from Saddam’s regime are suspect but I think the core of leaders around “the Caliph” is a different matter.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Sab…ISIS grew out of Al Qaeda in Iraq….and its crusade against the Christian West.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – Yes. There was no ISIS until we invaded Iraq. And there was no Iraq which placed Sunni and Shia together until after WWI. Right?
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Murph – I think I remember that ISIS came out of AQAP rather than Iraq per se? That said, we’d not have ANY of this problem had we not waged war and had Reagan not abetted the horrors of Israeli shelling of Lebanon in 1983. It is SO on the GOP!
choicelady

7 days ago
Anyway, the ME is a mess. And we’ve got a lot of mess to clean up in our own backyard.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
CL….AQ in Iraq fled Iraq during the Surge and the so-call Awakening (or Payoff)….and went in Syria where it became ISIL and then ISIS.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Sabreen – I lay so much of this at the feet of the far right religious right. I strongly recommend Jeff Sharlet’s book, “The Family” about the C Street people in DC. Thety are THE shadow government calling the shots on so many issues globally. HORRIFYING!
choicelady

7 days ago
OK Murph – thanks. I cannot keep this all straight at all.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL – I didn’t read the entire book, but most of it. I also remember the author on several shows. I believe Ms. Hillary is/was a member of “C Street”.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
On your recommendation Choice I read “The Family” and have passed it on to a number of others…..with mixed results but sometimes you just have to challenge others.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
My largest connundrum is the ISIS v Syria issue. I do not understand, but the Twitter feeds on the deaths of innocents in Syria at the hands of Assad cannot be ignored.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL – I honestly don’t know what we should do about Syria. I don’t want our troops on the ground.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Sabreen – no woman is a member!!!! But she did use Doug Coe, the leader in the 90s as her personal pastor during Monicagate. I do think she has severed relationships.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL, the Kurds are a key in all of this….including in Syria.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – it’s more a reference book than a good read, but it’s critically important that people see this history and these people. They are horrific.
choicelady

7 days ago
Talking about severing relationships, how silent is the GOP about trump’s rants?
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
CL….that is why I gave it to pastors I know.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
PPO – is that not a sure bit of evidence the GOP do not really have a clue about how to win Latino voters and that there is not a shred of morality among them?
choicelady

7 days ago
Thank you , Murph!!!!
choicelady

7 days ago
CL…welcome. It led to some interesting reactions/discussions.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – who were the pastors denominationally?
choicelady

7 days ago
For sure, CL. And we now have Chris Christie mixing it, thus diluting any GOP narrative.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
CL – This is from Mother Jones: Through all of her years in Washington, Clinton has been an active participant in conservative Bible study and prayer circles that are part of a secretive Capitol Hill group known as the Fellowship. Her collaborations with right-wingers such as Senator Sam Brownback (R-Kan.) and former Senator Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) grow in part from that connection.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
PPO – Christie seems to be the most ultimate expression of narcissism in maybe the universe.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL…..there were five…a Catholic, an Episcopalian, a Southern Baptist, a Church of Christ, a Missouri Synod Lutheran. Care to guess the reactions.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Sabreen – I know that, but I think it ALL predates her work as SOS. At least I freaking hope so!!!
choicelady

7 days ago
One interested but four in defense of the Family?
choicelady

7 days ago
Sorry – two interested but three in defense of the Family?
choicelady

7 days ago
Sab….and CL….I have read the same….but those alliances are long gone….at least I freaking hope so (where did I hear that before?)
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
CL which one was interested?
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I don’t think they are LONG ago – this can be tabbed to Monica days.
choicelady

7 days ago
Wahington is soooooooo sick with all the inside cliques, lobbyists, venal politicans and naked ambition for power. Makes me sick sometimes, but then, it’s all we have, flawed or not.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Episcopalian and maybe CAtholic. The others – don’t talk to me about that…
choicelady

7 days ago
CL, Murph – I hope so, too. But…..
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Episcopalian for sure….no other. The Catholic surprised me, in a bad way.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Hey, Beatlex!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
The terrorists are winning my friends,discuss
Beatlex

7 days ago
Hey Bea! Which terrorists?
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Beatlex…..is your part of world experiencing wildfires…
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Check above, Beat. they sure aren’t losing, but the ME countries must defeat them, not USA.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Hi Beatlex! I’m with Murph – are you having fires where you are?
choicelady

7 days ago
Murph,BIG time,all of western Canada,with the worst in Saskatchewan,we are in a drought situation too
Beatlex

7 days ago
SOOOOO…hard to believe…..what is be done there to address this.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Beatlex – I know friends just south of our common border in the islands say it’s pretty bad for that whole area. Saskatchewan is very frightening!
choicelady

7 days ago
CL, so when will the Western States tell the farmers and Coca Cola to cut back?
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Yes CL,thousands are in temporary shelters
Beatlex

7 days ago
This is the drought montor site for US. Scary!

Sabreen60

7 days ago
PPO – farmer are cut off now. NO ONE will challenge Nestle that bottles Sacramento (where I live) tap water. NO ONE.
choicelady

7 days ago
Beatlex – I am so sorry they have to go through this. It’s just terrifying!
choicelady

7 days ago
Cl, there’s the perennial problem. Money.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Bea – That’s awful.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
PPO – It is our leaders (I use the term loosely) who won’t tell them to stop.
choicelady

7 days ago
Beatlex, as soomeone who went through the Sydney fires in the ’90s, and very nearly lost everything, I really feel for all those in danger of bushfires
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
CL – I’ve been hearing about Nestle for weeks and weeks and still nothing is being done to try and stop them? Unbelievable.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Sabfreen – our mayor, Kevin Big Ego Johnson loves him his campaign support from Nestle.
choicelady

7 days ago
Lucky for me,the smoke from the fires are north of me and going south east,I heard some states in America have been getting smoke from them
Beatlex

7 days ago
Sabreen, its not just unbelievable, its criminal! Fires can’t be put out due to lack of water, yet these assholes continue to drain the resources.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Beatlex – don’t have that but did get smoke from Mexico’s fires as I drove thru Georgia in 1998. I cannot say how awful that was.
choicelady

7 days ago
I just finished reading through this: http://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/publications/2011/desalination_guidance/en/Safe drinking-water from desalination Guidance on risk assessment and risk management procedures to ensure the safety of desalinated drinking-water
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Thank you for that, Murph!
choicelady

7 days ago
brb
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
We have smoke masking the sun in Mo.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – is that smoke from CANADA???????
choicelady

7 days ago
Trump says it is those raping mexicans starting the fires(snark,of course)
Beatlex

7 days ago
CL It is.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
CL for sure! The fires are many,and huge
Beatlex

7 days ago
Murph – For some reason I can’t access the site.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Murph – OMG – all that way down to you. Beatlex – that is very helpful evidence of how massive the fires are!
choicelady

7 days ago
Sab and CL….. let’s try that site again…

http://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/publications/2011/desalination_guidance/en/
WHO | Safe drinking-water from desalination
The desalination guidance introduces the concept of water safety plans (WSPs) for desalination systems, provides an overview of potential hazards in source water and describes microbial and chemical risks and other key issues associated with treatment, remineralization, storage and distribution.

MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Ok that worked
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – that worked for me, and I bookmarked it to save and read. THANK you.
choicelady

7 days ago
Thanks Murph. It works.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
There is a water purification system, built for the home, that is produced in Youngstown, OH one of the most embattled deindustrialized cities. It can clean up ANYTHING, but when I asked if they were ramping up to economies of scale, they had no interest. CA would buy their equipment in a nanosecond I think – and they aren’t interested,
choicelady

7 days ago
Well good people. I’ve gotta run. Please have a Happy 4th. Have fun but stay alert!
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Good night, dear Sabreen – happy 4th. Stay safe and sane on this fourth of July . Talk with you soon!
choicelady

7 days ago
CL….why would that company refuse to do this….or at least sell the plans…do you know its name?
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I think it’s that they just do not yet have capacity and are scared of over-reach. I will circle back soon and see how they are doing. It’s been 2 years since we talked.
choicelady

7 days ago
Good night Sab….this is for you and the rest gathered here.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
i can’t remember the name of the company but have it save on my work computer.
choicelady

7 days ago
Oh Murph – that’s beautiful!!!!
choicelady

7 days ago
CL….if if you have a name, I would love it.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – I will try to dig it up.
choicelady

7 days ago
Well folks……I am still fighting my gardens…..we have too much water here. So I work from 6:30 AM to 11 each day….once the roots are well established it will get easier.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Victoria in Australia built a Desal plant at a cost of 5.7 Billion during the big drought 10 years ago. Just as bilding started, the drought broke and not one gallon of Desal wated has been needed. BUT….Victorian taxpayers have paid more than half a billion dollars to the loss-making operators of the state’s desalination plant, despite it producing no water in the year to June 30. New accounts filed by the consortium in charge of the desalination plant, Aquasure Pty Ltd, show the state government paid $254.34 million in “operational water service revenue” during the 2014 financial year. Operational water service revenue is a payment made by the government for simply having the desalination plant available, regardless of whether it is used, and the 2014 payment was substantially higher than the $133 million paid in the 2013 financial year. Advertisement The consortium also received $383 million in other fees during the 2014 financial year, which were described as “repayments” of a service concession. so beware!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Oh Murph – avoid problems, send your water to us! Good gardening, dear Murph – see you soon.
choicelady

7 days ago
PPO ….. that is mad….. getting rich doing nothing….
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Good night folks……good conversation
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
g’night, Murph. Enjoy your Weekend
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Good night, Murph – good rest!
choicelady

7 days ago
Well, we Few, We glorious few, have kept the ball of Vox rolling, but I gotta go as well. Enjoy your holiday. I’ll be cooking Steak, Baked Potato with sour cream and chives, with a bottle of Mondavi pinot! Yum!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Dear PPO – I spent the 4th in Sydney, Nova Scotia in 1990 and had more fun there than ever here. So rock out down under! See you soon!
choicelady

7 days ago
See, ya, CL
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
G;night dear PPO.
choicelady

7 days ago
Hey Beatles – I’m still here if you want to talk, and if you don’t, that’s OK, too,
choicelady

7 days ago
Uhhh – Beatlex – hate this new keyboard!
choicelady

7 days ago
I have not been around much guys,there are some health things I am going through,more testing,yada yada.I hope to have things resolved soon,THE ELECTION IS COMING! A year and a half from now!?
Beatlex

7 days ago
I am back…..phone call has me waiting…so I too can chat.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I remember you said you had health concerns. How are you doing?
choicelady

7 days ago
Oh good Murph – glad you reappeared!
choicelady

7 days ago
Beatlex ….. sorry to hear of your health concerns…..challenges
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Freak out – who puts you on HOLD at 11 pm??? They should be shot!
choicelady

7 days ago
CL,this is something new that has popped up,stomach related.I have been waiting 3 weeks! for results that should have been mailed to me in no less than 2 wks.I need to find out if they have been lost
Beatlex

7 days ago
CL…..there is an effort underway to cut several county clerks off at the pass here who are refusing to issue marriage licenses to “perverts”- that’s the word they used.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Oh Beatlex – I’m sorry. I have had major digestive issues, too, so you are totally right to want that information NOW. I hope it turns out to be something easy to fix.
choicelady

7 days ago
Murph Fk them!
Beatlex

7 days ago
Beatlex…”stomach issues” ominous and to be kept waiting…
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Oh for crying out loud. Damn those RW extremist who think clerk should defy the law of the land!!!
choicelady

7 days ago
Beatlex…..our hope is that the hammer in the deep south that has fallen will be felt here.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
CL…the three say they work for the people and that they have an obligation to shield them from tyranny.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph,ash heap of history fools,the bunch of them!
Beatlex

7 days ago
Murph – I think the shooting in Charleston was a radical turning point. There is no going back to business as usual.
choicelady

7 days ago
Beatle and Choice….you folks are correct but in their bubble, the right feels both right and forthright.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – tyranny my ass. NO ONE is imposing a thing on those who don’t want it. Unless and until straight couples are forced to divorce and marry gay people, there is NO tyranny. Clerks are paid by TAX dollars. Until they find a way to privatize that, they need to STFU.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL…don’t you know that the left is just saying that but soon churches that refuse to marry gay couples will lose their tax exempt status.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
The white right hasn’t been happy since CRA in 1964 when they were ‘forced’ to stop being openly bullies and murderers. That’s how they are ‘oppressed’.
choicelady

7 days ago
Mutph – absolutely NOT accurate. The freaking CAtholic Church has never once been threatened by its refusal to marry interfaith people or divorced people or anyone else they don’t like. NOT happening.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL….but, but, but, but….these people heard it in church from their pastors….but, but, but, but
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Only way churches will lose tax privilege is open partisan advocacy and true threats to kill named people. That is pretty avoidable, yes?
choicelady

7 days ago
Butbutbut – they are idiots.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL….The Left will stop at Nothing….doncha know….all part of the conspiracy.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Well the Left sometimes does advocate crap policies, but we patient progressives keep ’em in line. The laws are very clear. Hype doesn’t change that.
choicelady

7 days ago
The march of history is towards justice,of that we can be sure.Not everywhere in the world,but we in the west are evolving
Beatlex

7 days ago
CL….I hope that you are correct…..
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Beatle….and I hope you are correct as well.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
My call is coming back….so goodnight to you both.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Bye Murph!
Beatlex

7 days ago
Beatles – I’d refer you too “Blessed Unrest” by Paul Hawking that talks about bout people’s movement around the globe for democr
choicelady

7 days ago
Sorry people’s movements around the world.
choicelady

7 days ago
Good night Murph!
choicelady

7 days ago
I have to go too CL,I have to work tomorrow,and must get rest.See you next week!
Beatlex

7 days ago
Good night, dear Beatlex. Hope you get the medical info soon and that it is GOOD information and news. Be well dear friend!
choicelady

7 days ago
CL
Beatlex

7 days ago
Beatlex –
choicelady

7 days ago
Well PPOV-Vox allies and friends, we have reached the end of another good set of discussions. We parsed domestic politics AND international issues. Come join us next week for another interesting and informative round of discussions. Good night!
choicelady

7 days ago
Happy Birthday America, let us try to live up to those brilliant words in our Declaration. We have a long way to go.
S-Man

6 days ago
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