Displaying 2,881 To 2,910 Of 16,275 Comments Exactly how many people taking to the streets does it take for a front page article? » Posted By bito On November 18, 2011 @ 1:04 pm Capt Ray Lewis Joins OWS Protest,Gives Message to NYPD and Slams The Greed 1% from Zuccotti Park
“You should, by law, only use force to protect someone’s life or to protect them from being bodily injured OK? If you’re not protecting somebody’s life or protecting them from bodily injury, there’s no need to use force. And the number one thing that they always have in their favor that they seldom use is negotiation–continue to talk, and talk and talk to people. You have nothing to lose by that,” Mr Lewis said. “This bullrush–what happened last night is totally uncalled for when they did not use negotiation long enough.” » Posted By bito On November 17, 2011 @ 1:41 pm Graphic VIDEO ADDED- Livetweets, photOH! #OccupyWallStreet protester “hit in face with police baton.. bleeding.” H/T @GottaLaff » Posted By bito On November 17, 2011 @ 1:05 pm Another hippie at #OWS [img]http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lutnflRYUi1qdkv8qo1_500.jpg[/img] World War II veteran Stephen Patti, 85, was one of the protesters at Zuccotti Park today. He told NPR’s Eyder Peralta that he thinks it’s time for the #Occupy movement to come up with a list of demands and begin negotiations with the government and Wall Street. http://npr.tumblr.com/post/12934789938/world-war-ii-veteran-stephen-patti-85-was-one-of » Posted By bito On November 17, 2011 @ 12:43 pm BTW, Nirek has been a member since October 21st, 2011 and I’m sure he appreciates your “welcome.” » Posted By bito On November 16, 2011 @ 10:47 pm KQ, twice now today you have brought up the suggestion that President Obama helped change the national conversation and I thank you. Many if not most give the credit to the OWS movement and from what studies I have seen (Remapping Debate and The Monkey Cage) show exactly what you say, the conversation was turned/turning from debt/deficit/austerity with PBO’s jobs bill and his criss-crossing the nation and speaking. » Posted By bito On November 15, 2011 @ 3:28 pm Here are two sites that may help Em. » Posted By bito On November 15, 2011 @ 1:12 pm Occupy movement: city-by-city police crackdowns so far http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/nov/15/occupy-movement-police-crackdowns?CMP=twt_gu » Posted By bito On November 15, 2011 @ 12:57 pm It is scary, AdLib, and with the arrest and detention of the press makes it even more so. Cher posted a list of press members arrested below. My question, why were they arrested, under what grounds? » Posted By bito On November 15, 2011 @ 12:48 pm Cher here is Josh Harkinsons account of last night from his MoJo post: Inside Police Lines at the Occupy Wall Street Eviction » Posted By bito On November 15, 2011 @ 12:29 pm Is there a civil RICO act? We need one! » Posted By bito On November 15, 2011 @ 12:26 pm Looks like Tulsa also got raided from what I see on Twitter. » Posted By bito On November 15, 2011 @ 12:25 pm Former Legal Adviser to Mayor Quan: City Should Have Supported Occupy Movement in Oakland http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/former-legal-adviser-mayor-quan-city-shoul » Posted By bito On November 15, 2011 @ 11:59 am Two tweets from the LA Times: latimesmuskal profile latimesmuskal AP: Journalists have been detained by police while covering #Occupy #Wall #Street protests in New York. markzbarabak Breaking: LAPD Chief Charlie Beck said today that Occupy LA protesters working w/officials on timeline for closing City Hall camp #OWS I think you may be right and their blocking the press and “detaining” them makes it all the more outrageous. Freedom of assembly, freedom of the press are out the window now? » Posted By bito On November 15, 2011 @ 11:53 am This is from last night and is posted on the NYC GA’s site: Police Tear Gas & Drag Away Non-Violent Protesters in Zuccotti Park 11/15/2011 – Middle of the Nigh http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jRAxu4flK1M » Posted By bito On November 15, 2011 @ 11:37 am And I couldn’t agree more with you Kalima. The people at the ‘encampments’ are not sitting around watching the latest “news” ans advice from the MSM, they know that they will be onto the “Oh, look a squirrel” report at any given moment, while the ‘real’ people are keeping in touch via Twitter, Websites, and other non-corporately owned media and their “if it bleeds, it leads” mentality or the advice from he talking heads and the ‘pudnuts’ that they have on their programs. To even hear the words “income inequality” or “social justice” is rare, but the authorities breaking up a site, is big news, a squirrel, rarely the cause of the movement. The original list of grievances were listed at the beginning of the OWS movement, but are they ever even mentioned or is people giving ‘advice’ or the latest police raid that is reported? Tokyo knows, msm seems to miss the point. » Posted By bito On November 14, 2011 @ 6:01 pm Cher, First off, I found nothing strident in your comment at all, nothing, they matched many of my thoughts and one including “listening” to this younger generation and their thoughts and plans of action. The best Doctors, RN’s, teachers and lawyers are the one’s that can listen as well as impart their knowledge. The worst one’s pass down their edicts. Of course many of us supported civil rights, and still do, whether it was for, and is, AA’s, the AIM movement, the Chicano and Hispanic immigrant/farm worker movement, but I wasn’t out in the fields picking crops or living in the deplorable(still) conditions on the reservations. Nor did I sit at the lunch counters or ride on the freedom buses. I didn’t sit with the any of the leaders and tacticians and become involved in their decision making and I don’t they-the OWS movement- should accept everything I have to say. If we were so bloody great in the ‘50’s and ‘60’s we wouldn’t be in the situation we are now. I have been involved in both Union and Democratic Party and have often been on various committees, now called “breakout groups”, and not once did ALL of our suggestions get accepted by the members, not once, and to expect it now from the OWS movement, from outside advice, now is ludicrous, IMHO. As to your point on “African Americans like Herman Cain and Clarence Thomas and that cross-eyed Repub guy on Hardball” (now I will never remember his name), is one of the lowest of the lowest, they have reached their status on the “blood of their brothers” which I find unforgivable to forget that fact. When I spent my nights in the lock-ups, I always thought of my GG Father and my Father and what they did for workers rights and economic equality, not me. BTW, I do have a “monopoly on wisdom” 😆 » Posted By bito On November 14, 2011 @ 4:02 pm k’es, I just think that we need to put some historical perspective to it, no? This movement is but in it’s infancy, but many aspects of it are quite old. It was started by many young people and it’s their to make it it viable or to show themselves as the latest short lived fad. One hit wonders or the ‘Rolling Stones.’ » Posted By bito On November 14, 2011 @ 2:32 pm I am having a bit of a problem with comparisons between the OWS movement and the Civil Rights Movement (CRM) when considering both the organization and effectiveness. I certainty wasn’t around to offer my “insights” to the people that started the NACCP and Rosa Parks (1955), SCLC (1957 or SNCC (1960), nor was I around when Peter J. McGuire started the trade Unions nor the AFL or CIO were formed and I’m sure they didn’t have a written plan and timeline that was strictly followed, they evolved organically with input of members and due to circumstances. Nor were they monolithic from the very beginnings and yet we expect all the Occupy Movement and all the many sites to be just that and in a matter of just a few months. People before my Great Grandfather’s, (who died with a scar from a rifle butt) generation fought for workers rights, income equality and social justice and people today are picking up the torch. Now will the Occupy movement stay viable through the winter, who knows, but it won’t depend on rules, edicts or timelines, it will depend on passion and dedication to/for social justice not just a piece of a park. The only advise I could possibly give is “Keep your Eyes on the Prize.” » Posted By bito On November 14, 2011 @ 12:59 pm A look a what happened in the OWS Movement from The American Prospect: http://prospect.org/article/advocates-keystone-pipeline-try-co-opt-ows I also found this article interesting: Voices From the Occupations Why occupy? Four Occupy activists from around the U.S. discuss the nation’s newest movement. ‘A moment like this only comes along every generation or so. The Civil Rights Movement lasted for a decade. If this is going to last a decade, the first step is going to be lasting through the winter.’ http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/12241/voices_from_the_occupations » Posted By bito On November 12, 2011 @ 3:12 pm ICYMI and a repost. Just a reminder and a refresher of the OWS’s “Deceleration.” Declaration of the Occupation of New York City As we gather together in solidarity to express a feeling of mass injustice, we must not lose sight of what brought us together. We write so that all people who feel wronged by the corporate forces of the world can know that we are your allies. As one people, united, we acknowledge the reality: that the future of the human race requires the cooperation of its members; that our system must protect our rights, and upon corruption of that system, it is up to the individuals to protect their own rights, and those of their neighbors; that a democratic government derives its just power from the people, but corporations do not seek consent to extract wealth from the people and the Earth; and that no true democracy is attainable when the process is determined by economic power. We come to you at a time when corporations, which place profit over people, self-interest over justice, and oppression over equality, run our governments. We have peaceably assembled here, as is our right, to let these facts be known. Read the rest at: http://www.nycga.net/resources/declaration/ » Posted By bito On November 10, 2011 @ 3:38 pm Rove Ad Against Elizabeth Warren…Thanks for the Help, Karl! Is Karl Rove aware that he’s running the ad in Massachusetts? I’m just wonderin’. Maybe he’s getting senile in his old age. And he is aware, I have to assume, of the polling that shows more Americans support Occupy than not? Or that 2/3rds agree that income inequality needs to be addressed and the system as it is is not fair? The numbers are likely a lot higher in MA, since, as we keep getting reminded (by the “red speck” who’s running for President, if nothing else) that our state is one of the most liberal in the union. If I were Scott Brown, I’d beg Karl to please…stop helping……. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tNxez4ddpa0 » Posted By bito On November 10, 2011 @ 2:16 pm Sally and Em, agreed, it was worth watching again and to have a reminder of the origins of the movement. » Posted By bito On November 9, 2011 @ 2:02 pm I found this worthy of re-watching and re-posting. Keith Olbermann reads the first collective statement of Occupy Wall Street » Posted By bito On November 9, 2011 @ 12:20 pm Post the U-Tube of the seniors in Chicago and ask them to point out the rapists and drug abusers in that video. » Posted By bito On November 8, 2011 @ 2:16 pm Em. the ones in the wheelchairs got me a little misty-eyed. Made me proud! Contrast and compare to the seniors at the T-Potty rallies, quite the difference. » Posted By bito On November 8, 2011 @ 1:57 pm How cool is this? Look at all these damn hippies! Seniors block busy Chicago street to protest cuts to social programs [img]http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/chicagoprotest-screen.jpg[/img] Chicago police on Monday issued citations to 43 senior citizens and their supporters who linked arms to block an intersection near the city’s financial district. The action was part of a protest against proposed cuts to Social Security, Medicare and other benefits. The Jane Addams Senior Caucus (JASC), their supporters and “Occupy Chicago” began the demonstration with a rally outside the office of Illinois Sens. Mark Kirk (R) and Dick Durbin (D). The group, which organizers claimed was nearly 1,500-strong, then marched to the Federal Plaza.
» Posted By bito On November 8, 2011 @ 1:20 pm Are you part of the 99% We Are The 99 Percent – Allow Us To Introduce Ourselves from Christopher M. Ryan on Vimeo. » Posted By bito On November 3, 2011 @ 5:41 pm I did see something about a speeding car, Patsy, I didn’t know anyone got hit! WoW! » Posted By bito On November 2, 2011 @ 8:36 pm It is interesting that the police presence in Oakland was really light today, they may have not gone on strike, but they didn’t seem to want to put themselves at the forefront either. I wonder if that was what the open letter from the cops was about– “We will not be the politicians scapegoats this time.” » Posted By bito On November 2, 2011 @ 6:01 pmComments Posted By bito
http://occupystream.com/
http://occupystreams.org/
And to think that if the R’s had their way there wouldn’t even be any live streams to watch any of this going on. I may have missed it, but I haven’t heard anything on MSNBC about reporters being arrested and there was a time when news people came to the aid of their fellow reporters, but what now ~crickets~ ?
http://www.nycga.net/resources/declaration/
So many good points and I’ll try to address a few, in no order 🙂
While I thought that the “Declaration ” by the GA in NYC was a bit long on their grievances, many could be boiled down to income and social disparity, they are grievances and the solutions need to come from our voting and our elected representatives, not from the OWS movement.
The viability, the future, of the movement belongs to them, not some document(s).
There have been many a book, paper and doctoral thesis written on social movements, but none of them can instill passion or dedication into an organic mass movement. It take people.
The CRM didn’t start out in the 1950’s with a few people sitting around writing down all the rules, tactics and time frames, it was filled with many fits, starts, setbacks and progress over many years not the few months of OWS existence.
The same can be said of Unions and most social movements, both good and bad.
Do you recall the video of when the TP’s were throwing money at insults at the man who had MS and was in the anti-TP demonstration? That was shameful, this quite the opposite.
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