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Time Out for O/T – Vol. 18

I don’t think this question has ever been polled.

A: yes
B: No
C: No, unless it’s me that needs it

Vote now and vote often.

» Posted By bito On April 1, 2012 @ 5:16 pm

I did hear of some of the previous cases of SYG in Florida and there is one that occurred in Miami. Someone was caught stealing someones car radio and when the owner caught him, he chased the thief for two blocks with a pistol. When he finally caught him he shot and killed him and took the thiefs bag of radios, which included his radio, walked home, sold two of the radios to friends and proceeded to resume his nap. When the police came he pleaded SYG. When it went to court, the judge agreed with the shooter ❗ Go figure!?! Another case was of a gang member killing a rival gang member and got off on SYG. I have retire right now but I’m sure one can do a search about the cases of SYG in Florida and the usage of it.

So can one pursue someone and kill them under SYG? Seems so.

» Posted By bito On March 31, 2012 @ 9:28 pm

Nice vid, Adlib!

Weekly Address: Passing the Buffett Rule So That Everyone Pays Their Fair Share

President Obama calls on Congress to pass the Buffett Rule, a principle that ensures that millionaires and billionaires do not pay less in taxes as a share of their income than middle class families pay — as a matter of fairness.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/photos-and-video/video/2012/03/31/weekly-address-passing-buffett-rule-so-everyone-pays-their-fair-sh

» Posted By bito On March 31, 2012 @ 8:58 pm

Was that Trayvon yelling for help?

goldietaylor™ ‏ @goldietaylor

I could hear my child crying from three blocks away through a fence and a wall, and I’d still be able to pick out his voice.

» Posted By bito On March 31, 2012 @ 8:23 pm

Having a little personal knowledge on EMT’s both from family members and my (regretfully) ambulance rides, if there was any suspicion head and/or back injury they would have fitted a neck brace on him and placed him on a backboard. In his statement he said his head had been slammed on the concrete and even without visible signs of injury they would have done it suspecting internal injury. They would have done this SOP along with other procedures (BP< heart rate checking for open wounds, eye response... before wiping off any blood. If they suspect the injuries are severe enough they would have had him on a gurney, gotten in touch with the ER, transmitted the vitals while loading him into an ambulance. If the seriousness of the injuries don't are minimal and his vitals and EKG check out, he would have been given the option of going to the hospital or not. Seems he chose not too. Evidently he was lucid enough to choose and say no. If anyone here has ever had a head injury with an open wound, you know that they bleed profusely, even small ones, because the skull has a very good blood supply and very little muscle/fat protection for them. If he was in pain, what was his pulse? 66 or 166, same with the amount of adrenaline he pumped out. if it a lot, and listening to his and his family's story it should have been his heart rate would have been zooming. I want to see the EMT's report I guess what I am saying, BullS@t Mr. Zimmerman.

» Posted By bito On March 31, 2012 @ 8:02 pm

Some girl called Susan has a very good article on Leah’s “Gods Own Party” site about on ALEC!

http://godsownparty.com/blog/2012/03/alec-just-another-billionaire-conservative-power-group-manipulating-america/

You may also know her as Sue in CA or @susand900

Where’s our cross-post Sue! 😉

» Posted By bito On March 31, 2012 @ 7:11 pm

FYI: Ohio St. is beating Kansas at the half.

» Posted By bito On March 31, 2012 @ 7:01 pm

No problem Cher, some of the highlights I’ve read and heard are not what I thought were the highlights at all. Some of Scalia’s remarks I found down right childish and offensive and not productive to the argument yet they were part of many “highlights” on TV.
My prediction the vote on both the Medicaid and the individual responsibility provision will be 6-3 with Kennedy and Roberts joining the majority upholding ACA or the usual miserable 5-four (my four button quit again 🙁 ) against ACA.

» Posted By bito On March 31, 2012 @ 6:58 pm

How will it ever be known? They gave the gun back to him sans forensics. If the cops had followed simple normal procedure, would this case even had made national news? Maybe that new law has the even the cops confused on what they can and cannot do, I don’t know.

» Posted By bito On March 31, 2012 @ 6:32 pm

AdLib, I tried a few things, it was Foxfire and it’s done it before. Not just a hiccup but a warm Pepsi roaring burp. 😉

» Posted By bito On March 31, 2012 @ 6:27 pm

Cher, AdLib, we have had this discussion before, it’s not Reid alone. it’s the make -up of the caucus and the cliche of “herding cats.” A Senate leader can’t take them where they won’t go, especially after the caucus rule changes on committees and chairmanships, the leader has to have the caucus behind him even on those. It ain’t LBJ’s Senate.

» Posted By bito On March 31, 2012 @ 6:18 pm

Leader Reid and the Dems did hold the floor attempting to make changes in the Senate rules the first week of the session but all of the changes defeated, with many Dems helping with the defeat and ALL the R’s. Did they try to abolish the filibuster completely? No! Neither party will, most of them know that every 2 years they may find them selves in the minority. It’s the abuse of the rule that is the problem but how do you pass a rule on respect and civility? Bunch of Yo-Yo’s!

» Posted By bito On March 31, 2012 @ 6:06 pm

Cher, and thank you for posting them, but like AdLib said, it’s a matter of time finding time to read them.

The recordings are also posted on C-Span: http://www.c-span.org/Events/Supreme-Court-Determining-the-Constitutionality-of-Health-Care-Act/10737429098/

» Posted By bito On March 31, 2012 @ 5:49 pm

Shit–I just wrote a long reply AdLib and Firefox just ate it! Wonder where those things go, like socks in a dryer. 😉

» Posted By bito On March 31, 2012 @ 5:42 pm

The Sentential a right wing rag? Just an anecdote. They had a section called their “Business and Labor” section which never printed any organized labor news, not one article that I ever saw. They wouldn’t print any of the news that we sent them, not even a picture of our apprentice graduating class, yet they would run profiles of a junior bank clerk being promoted to head junior head clerk and of beauticians being hired by a new shop. That’s their idea of labor news. I spent quite a bit of time on the phone with their business editor(s)
Sorry for the diversion, just brought back memories of that paper.

I liked what the mother of young Mr. Martin said about the voice: I’m his mother, I’ve heard his voice almost daily, you don’t think I don’t know his voice? That was him yelling for help. (my paraphrase)

» Posted By bito On March 31, 2012 @ 5:09 pm

KQ, Webb’s argument is completely bogus, short sighted and hypocritical. We have been choosing winners and losers with both direct budget appropriations and breaks in the tax code, even in the Constitution (Post Roads for one). Tax breaks for canals, railways, airports and airlines even the city of Houston …. all received tax breaks and regulations. They picked winners and losers then The tax break for oil has been on the books since since 1913 when they were in their infancy and struggling, do they need it now?

We gave budget appropriations in the defense budget for what is now the Internet, look at all the spinoff’s from NASA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_spin-off http://www.sti.nasa.gov/tto/ and Defense (air control, satellites- communications/weather…-
Is there a list of ones that were losers that the government picked? Probably. Solandrya comes to mind and that would have been a winner if China hadn’t flooded the solar market wih 32 billion dollars on less efficient (10 X/s less) and dirt cheap photovoltaic systems.

Long way to get to your and Cescsa’s point: BS, Senator Webb! Got a lobbyist/adviser job lined up for when you retire? Is it with big oil for off shore drilling in the territorial waters of Virginia?

» Posted By bito On March 31, 2012 @ 4:44 pm

Interesting that states now have, and still will under ACA, have the ability to do away or change 100% the use of their Medicaid money to have or not have nursing home care with their federal monies. Oddly, no state has done away with nursing home or home care services.
Why? Is it because that seniors vote and the children of seniors, that have to take care of them vote?
Clemment’s whole argument is on coercion. WHEN did Medicare become coercive? ’65, ’72, ’85, ’92, 2012 or Part D The whole argument depends on Federalism and coercion.
How much “Liberty and Freedom” would a person have if they were lying in bed with riddled with cancer. MS,… without any health care.
Let them die, maybe then they will find real Liberty and Freedom!

» Posted By bito On March 31, 2012 @ 4:06 pm

Did/has anyone listened to the SCOTUS oral arguments? I have listened to portions of them on C-Span and found them quite interesting. If anyone has, let’s discuss.

» Posted By bito On March 31, 2012 @ 3:30 pm

West Wing Week: 3/30/2012 or “I’ve Got Seoul”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dpi1LGEwlUs

» Posted By bito On March 30, 2012 @ 8:12 pm

Good news is bad news for Willard.

» Posted By bito On March 30, 2012 @ 7:53 pm

Ian Boudreau ‏ @iboudreau

Olbermann to move to BBC for new show, “Keith’s Cable TV Studio Nightmares.”

Wonder if it will replace “Kitchen Nightmares”?

» Posted By bito On March 30, 2012 @ 7:41 pm

I like the tweet from earlier.
I would buy Cato and Norquist’s group and shrink them so small that you could drown them in a bathtub.
😆

» Posted By bito On March 30, 2012 @ 7:30 pm

Here is Cher’s permalink-just to check on her prediction:

https://planetpov.com/2011/12/01/time-out-for-ot-vol-18/comment-page-1/#comment-179887

If she disappears next week, we will know she was wrong! 😆

» Posted By bito On March 30, 2012 @ 7:25 pm

Exactly KT, not much for me to add than I agree with you. Giving one “religious freedom” but within the constraints of “their” religion isn’t really freedom at all is it? You can practice any religion you want, as long as I approve and it’s the same as mine. That said, bottom line, what does that have to do with my or anyone’s healthcare?

Rachel, or someone, needs to do a “top ten weekly/daily of lies by Republican’s, seems like it would be almost easy to do, since they funish a constant stream of the daily.

» Posted By bito On March 30, 2012 @ 7:05 pm

It just seems to me that so many of these R’s are living in a world where constantly telling lies doesn’t seem to matter.

There’s no conservative who’s trying to deny women health care or contraceptives.

What do they call de-funding Planned Parenthood, voting for the Blount amendment, forcing intrusive sonograms on women, allowing employers to ask women why they use birth control–and be fired if they don’t comply….. All those are meant to help women? Fooled me.

» Posted By bito On March 30, 2012 @ 6:25 pm

Partial victory for WI Unions ❗
Federal court strikes down parts of Act 10

Could have been better, now let’s hope they recall Walker and and fix the rest of the Union Busting law!

http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/federal-court-strikes-down-parts-of-act-10-4k4qdap-145208985.html

» Posted By bito On March 30, 2012 @ 6:09 pm

Chump of the Week: Senator Ron “Just Google It” Johnson

You probably saw this one coming: our Chump this week is Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin. It’s hard to deny someone the coveted title when they say something as blatantly uninformed as “there’s no conservative who’s trying to deny women health care or contraceptives.”

KEYES: What do we say to the millions of women who can’t afford access to birth control?
JOHNSON: My wife actually went online here in Wisconsin and typed in, “what if I can’t afford birth control?” Came up, bam. If you can’t afford it, you can get birth control in this country. That’s a straw-dog argument. There’s no conservative who’s trying to deny women health care or contraceptives. We’re just saying this is an issue of religious freedom. […]
KEYES: What do you mean, “if you can’t afford it you can get it?”
JOHNSON: You can get it. Go online, type it in. It’s easy to get.

Yep, conservatives are doing all they can to help women with their HC, right?

http://www.womenarewatching.org/article/chump-of-the-week-senator-ron-just-google-it-johnson-champ-of-the-week-courtney-everette?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=tweet&utm_campaign=chump

» Posted By bito On March 30, 2012 @ 5:45 pm

Fixed.

» Posted By bito On March 30, 2012 @ 5:25 pm

I don’t Cher, but is HE never wrong and always the wronged party? As much as I hate to admit it but even I have been wrong before and it wasn’t my employers fault. I learned I had to compromise on jobs, that I didn’t know everything.

I haven’t watched him much either for the same reason as you. I don’t listen to Rush and get offended for being progressive and Keith sometimes offended me for not being progressive enough to his liking. We are a centrist country, but that doesn’t sell the popcorn, I guess.

» Posted By bito On March 30, 2012 @ 5:18 pm

Just a little Friday news dump–being ignored:

Stocks rise, extending best start since 1998
http://news.yahoo.com/stocks-rise-extending-best-start-since-1998-155523200.html

GDP was 3% last quarter, best since the recession.

Jobless claims fall again last week

Inflation stays at low level

Consumer confidence up for the quarter

Obama sets stage for tough new sanctions targeting Iran’s oil

Polls show PBO up double digits against Willard in WI and Ohio.

~~~
Those are just a few that I’ve seen and remember seeing today. Anyone want to add to the list?

Meanwhile: grasping at straws–

Obama as a Russian double-agent? Karl Rove-linked group releases controversial ad,

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/rove-linked-group-paints-obama-double-agent-russia-142856121.html

» Posted By bito On March 30, 2012 @ 4:39 pm

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