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Time Out for O/T – Vol. 15

Wts, I think President Obama is a leader, and a good one at that, but he doesn’t lead the way most people expect him to. He leads by doing, if you ask me, and this is my personal favorite for a leader.

You are aware that the rw propaganda machine is a powerful tool and they would be overjoyed if they could paint the “dangerous socialist” Obama at the core of the movement, aren’t you? And no, he doesn’t give them this opening, which I find wise.

As to the Daddy analogy: I don’t know a better one, it is not to discredit you or anyone else, I love to debate and I don’t hold back, if I don’t have to. With you I feel I can go full steam, and so I do. If I’m wrong about that, let me know or hit back, I can take it. Not that I want it to become Huff Po like here, but we should be able to have an energetic debate once in a while as far as I’m concerned.
In any case I can’t help it that the Daddy analogy continues to come to my mind on that issue. Maybe you can give me a new idea which would express better what I mean.

» Posted By Truth On March 13, 2011 @ 9:19 am

Whats, I’m sorry I had to tease you on the spiritual leader one. Maybe my little revenge for the countless times I have been called an Obamabot and an apologist on the dark side – and so unrightfully it hit you, since you just happened to offer me an opportunity. But after your honey badger cartoon I thought you can handle it, right?

Anyway, I understand your sentiment that many people would like him to show his support. But I for one am sure he ACTS on behalf of us and the middle class and so I concentrate more on what he is doing than on what he is saying. Everything he says is used to spin a drama out of it, so it is only wise not to offer material to deflect from the real issues, see also my reply to Questinia. And what good does it to talk for the middle class and act exactly opposed to their words like Madame Huffington? Actions are far more important than words to my mind.
And after all he is a shrewd politician. We always doubted him, but he knew how to get elected, and he did already more for America in 2 short years than most Presidents I know of. And, he is clever enough to get reelected – which enables him to do more, not less.

Should more be done? Sure enough. But considering the circumstances, he has done the very best he could, at least in my opinion. Maybe he should have tried the Public Option. But maybe then there would be no improvements in hc for another 2 decades. This would be far more disastrous than no Public Option. The PO can be included at one point in the (hopefully near) future. But to get the entire parcel through – well, no President before him succeeded. So, has he done nothing? Or did too many people buy into the Huff- meme? After all there was a concerted effort going on to discredit the President and to sow as much doubt as possible.

So in my opinion this:

It is not them, it is the real people of this country who could benefit from him not acting like he has no dog in this race.

is simply not true.

» Posted By Truth On March 13, 2011 @ 9:01 am

Questinia, it is NOT about how the President is perceived, it is the fact that it is used as a weapon to deflect from those urgent issues at hand. The issues need to grab the headlines, not the president. This is the point I tried to make!!!

To me President Obama IS an inspirational leader, just by the way he handled his election and his presidency. I wouldn’t want to deal with all that shit that he has to deal with, and much less would I stay calm and even-keeled. Weren’t these the traits that got him elected, after all? I thought they played a vital role. And he remains my idol how to go about, although more often than not through my impatience I fail to emulate him.

I firmly stand by my reasoning that the grassroots movements need to get on their feet on their own. Why are they waiting for Daddy to approve or start it? And no, he is NOT the one who needs to jumpstart it, the population needs to do that.

» Posted By Truth On March 13, 2011 @ 8:42 am

Buddy, I like this video. I didn’t know that animals can recognize pictures in the TV. And Howard is really creative!

» Posted By Truth On March 13, 2011 @ 8:32 am

@ whatsthatsound

whatsthatsound says:
03/13/2011 at 4:25 AM
Hi Truth, why, exactly, do you believe that?
This is a serious question as I am truly groping for understanding as to why his supporters are so willing to make justifications (sorry, but that’s how I see it) for him?
And please respond to me exactly as you would to Michael Moore or Dennis Kucinich if they complained about lack of spiritual (can’t think of a better word) leadership from the WH (as they are wont to do), not because I am fit to stand in their shoes ( I freely acknowledge I am not), but because they aren’t here.

—- Whats, what exactly do you expect from the President? What would it help if he’d go to Wisconsin to give a speech or if he would barge in in any form? Wouldn’t it be the preferred fodder for the right, who accuse him, the centrist he is, – even without the slightest cause – to be a socialist, a nazi, a dictator and what not? Wouldn’t they make him responsible for the protests in the first place? And wouldn’t this so conveniently deflect from the urgent issues at hand?
I think yes. And whom would this help? Imo it would take away from the movement on the ground which has to get stronger by itself (and therefore should let go of Daddy’s hand). It would weaken the President’s position too, since he would be relentlessly attacked by the sophisticated lying- and propaganda machine of the right. In other words, the only ones to be helped would be the right, imho.

Do I think something should be undertaken against the sophisticated propaganda machine of the right? – Absolutely. –

Change has to come from the bottom, and it is greatly helped if on the top it’s appreciated and not suppressed as is the case when a Republican is at the helm. The one who is at the helm must navigate within the entire political arena, and not only on one side. (And after all uniting the country is one of President Obama’s top priorities, this is no secret. And it makes a lot of sense too.)

Furthermore, if this was not America, things might also be different. This country though could end up in a civil war quite quickly. As of now, and as hard as I find it to believe, there are still lots of people supporting the Republicans. Some of them fiercely. So much so, that they wouldn’t shy away to make use of their “second amendment rights”.

The above mentioned propaganda machine had already heated up the atmosphere in the country so much, that several people have been killed. Here for example Dr. Tiller as well as the guy in the Holocaust museum and the Tucson shootings come to mind. And countless arrests of people who threaten to harm the President have been made.

I hope this answered your question, which I answered as well as I understood it in the first place. Please clarify if I got you wrong.
The question about spiritual leadership from the WH I found quite funny though. Maybe America should first become a buddhist country and then put your spiritual leader in place (and respect him!) before wanting any spiritual leadership. As of now I thought that mainly the left insists 24/7 that religion and politics have to be separated.

» Posted By Truth On March 13, 2011 @ 7:58 am

Nana, with all due deference: Rubbish!

» Posted By Truth On March 13, 2011 @ 4:12 am

Cher, I would never mind a repost. To me it’s just important to share the information, and there is so much out there one easily misses out on things.

» Posted By Truth On March 13, 2011 @ 3:57 am

Whats, if it were wise to do so, sure. But as of now I think it’s better he’s staying out publicly and works silently in the background to do the right things. I for one think he can accomplish much more in this way. And: the movement should gain strength on its own.

» Posted By Truth On March 13, 2011 @ 3:45 am

KQ, I guess he wanted the job exactly BECAUSE the country is so divided. He knows that he is someone who could bring it together. And the right knows that as well.
But I guess none of us expected the Republican’s opposition to this to be so fierce. After all, it is about making him a one-term-president, isn’t it? And some on the left don’t seem to see that they’re only helping the right by constantly nagging at the President.

» Posted By Truth On March 13, 2011 @ 1:20 am

Exactly. He can do or not do whatever he wants, he’ll always be blamed for it. That’s maybe why he’s simply doing what HE thinks is right.

» Posted By Truth On March 13, 2011 @ 12:12 am

Kalima, I understand *Focus* cites Japanese government sources and as far as I can see the magazine is not spreading rumors for the sake of knowing better than people in Japan what’s going on.

I think a lot of the confusion may also be due to the vast time differences.

Personally I feel it’s always good if we each bring up the information we have, for me it’s the best way to find out what’s really going on.
I understand and respect that you’re right now too much under pressure to get into that, but in spite of that we others need also to find a way to deal with it.

» Posted By Truth On March 13, 2011 @ 12:09 am

No problem, Buddy. We can’t edit posts once submitted, only administrators can. But simply leave a note for AdLib at the Help Desk and then he can shift it to the Art Corner. I’m sure he is delighted to see your picture!

» Posted By Truth On March 12, 2011 @ 11:53 pm

Yes, bito, true there would be a lot of other stuff to be worried about in India, even besides the nuke plants here which will never have the standard of those in Japan. I could also be run over by a riksha or slip on a banana skin for that matter…. and what not.

As I have tried to explain earlier, I don’t think the Japanese to be fools and their engineering is fantastic, otherwise countless more people would have died in this earthquake. I’m well aware of that.

But: they still were not prepared for something like this, perhaps never can be, and it is utterly dangerous that the cooling systems as well as the backups failed. So of course I’m worried how the situation is going to develop.

And I do see a tendency that governments are usually the last to admit what’s really going on, also in Japan. Moreover the German “Focus” is – at least of my sources – right now the first to report the latest development.

One more thing why I am suspicious, and will always be, if something like this happens: in 1986 there was a huge fire in a chemical plant near my home town of Basel, Switzerland. The fish in the river Rhine had died, and the river was red.

The statement of the Chemical plant was: “the red color in the Rhine is not poisonous.”

Omitting the fact that the purpose of the red color had been to mark an utterly poisonous substance.

» Posted By Truth On March 12, 2011 @ 11:42 pm

@ Buddy: yippie! Looking forward to your post!

» Posted By Truth On March 12, 2011 @ 11:16 pm

Good advice Buddy, it’s much appreciated, thanks!

And one would never ever think you’d been away from painting for months. In this case I can only say I’m looking forward to you gaining momentum!

» Posted By Truth On March 12, 2011 @ 11:05 pm

Buddy, this is because there is no post yet in this section. We’re all waiting for YOU to inaugurate it… That means you can just open a new post in your dashboard and add one or more pictures and give some explanation to them or not, just as you wish!!!

The light effects are once more marvelous in your new picture. I had to take a print…. So secure your copyright in time, otherwise I’m going to open a business with your art work….

» Posted By Truth On March 12, 2011 @ 10:58 pm

Hi PW! I was thinking of you and Maggie too, so thanks for updating!

***Edit: Do you have any news of jdmn17? He disappeared some time ago and I wonder if all is ok? Also the series was supposed to start next Saturday, and he planned to write part 1.

» Posted By Truth On March 12, 2011 @ 10:35 pm

You summarized that very well, Cher. I for one am glad to find such updates when I come back to see how the situation developed.

» Posted By Truth On March 12, 2011 @ 10:34 pm

bito, the German “Spiegel” and “Focus” reported the same, and they had more accurate articles than the Times of India, which had just adjusted their front page with one sentence, but not the article.

You’re right about being careful not to spread panic though. Yet, yes! I am scared and being in India I’m also much closer to the entire thing – so I do want to know what’s going on. It’s very difficult to figure it out at this point in time though – yet I have a strong feeling the japanese gov is not revealing what they really know.

***Edit: or rather: I have a strong feeling the Japanese gov is in very active denial of what’s really going on

» Posted By Truth On March 12, 2011 @ 10:31 pm

Yes, true, wts. I need to check various organizations to find out where I can donate through internet banking. If you know any, please let me know.

» Posted By Truth On March 12, 2011 @ 10:09 pm

I know, whats, and am very glad about that. But there are so many people hit by this unspeakable tragedy – I guess we all feel so helpless and want to do something, even if it’s only donating some money. Please recommend where we could best donate etc.

» Posted By Truth On March 12, 2011 @ 9:53 pm

Artist, AC: Smiley

» Posted By Truth On March 12, 2011 @ 9:36 pm

Whats, this is so heartbreaking and so overwhelming, I really don’t know what to say. Let us know if we can do anything more than keeping all of you in our prayers.

» Posted By Truth On March 12, 2011 @ 9:34 pm

Japan govt’s spokesman Yukio Edano said that radioactive meltdowns may have occurred in two reactors of the quake-hit Fukushima nuke plant.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/rest-of-world/Meltdowns-may-have-occurred-in-two-reactors-Japan-govt/articleshow/7690222.cms

» Posted By Truth On March 12, 2011 @ 9:30 pm

Chase, she did get upset about something here, but I don’t know exactly what it was. She felt she is not appreciated here, which is completely untrue imo. And after all, everybody still spits when mentioning the HP!!! So she does have an impact here, for sure.
I guess you know her better than I do, so keep digging…. but I’m going to write her too, yes.

» Posted By Truth On March 12, 2011 @ 9:08 pm

Kalima, this is so heartbreaking. If we can do anything besides praying, please let us know.

» Posted By Truth On March 12, 2011 @ 8:57 pm

Please do, chase, and greetings from me too. Artist has also asked about her.
I emailed dey, but she didn’t reply anymore. Sigh.

» Posted By Truth On March 12, 2011 @ 8:54 pm

Choicelady, thanks for this. You have such a vast knowledge on many things, PLEASE share it with us in ARTICLES on The Planet!!!

» Posted By Truth On March 12, 2011 @ 8:52 pm

Hi chase, welcome back to the healthy Planet. I miss deygirl too, do you have any idea where she is? I really hope she’s coming back to the Planet.

» Posted By Truth On March 12, 2011 @ 8:42 pm

Dear Artist, so if you are talented you should not withhold your skills from us, shouldn’t you???

I’m looking forward to your works!

» Posted By Truth On March 12, 2011 @ 8:38 pm

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