Displaying 421 To 450 Of 10,917 Comments One of us is confused (probably me) but Ed HENRY is a reporter for Fox–Rollins is that odious hack who ran Bachmann’s campaign for a while before he quit. » Posted By Chernynkaya On December 17, 2011 @ 1:16 pm I’m with Bob Cesca on this: Yes. There’s Indefinite Detention in the Bill. The National Defense Authorization Act does, in fact, include indefinite detention in there. [SEE LINK FOR SCREENSHOT OF SECTION RE INDEFINITE DETETNTION.] And, as we all complained about during the Bush years, the war against terrorism — “hostilities” — could ostensibly continue forever because there will always be terrorism and political/religious zealots who want to kill lots of people. Always. … It’s right there in the conference report. As hyperbolic as some of the left-wing reactions have been, there’s reason to be upset about this particular aspect of the bill. The president shouldn’t sign this bill into law — that is unless he adds a signing statement that declares an end to the “war on terrorism.” Of course, he has to sign it–it’s veto proof. But the main point is that this language was already in the law. It’s the War on Terror that is the root of it all, and no president would even un-declare a war on terror. » Posted By Chernynkaya On December 17, 2011 @ 1:00 pm Here’s a bit more:
DanaPerino Dana Perino edhenryTV Ed Henry DanaPerino Dana Perino » Posted By Chernynkaya On December 17, 2011 @ 12:45 pm KQ, you read Red State for the Right’s take, and I read Ed Henry (Fox guy) on Twitter. You can read his Timelime to see their take: WH counter is that President has already been blamed here on Twitter and many other forums for “killing” Keystone, so no biggie good point that where GOP may have gained on pipeline, is they force President to stop/kill it before elex WH believes there’s no way in Feb Repubs can block full-year extension of payroll + unemployment benefits/will be too hard politically » Posted By Chernynkaya On December 17, 2011 @ 12:38 pm KQ, the EPA has already issued a statement against fracking but of course that doesn’t mean it won’t happen. » Posted By Chernynkaya On December 17, 2011 @ 12:26 pm Not only that, the Reptilians’ original demand was that the Pipeline be approved for the payroll tax extension–not merely considered. So there’s that too. » Posted By Chernynkaya On December 17, 2011 @ 12:08 pm Looks like the Republicans just killed the Keystone Pipeline: I see that Congress has decided to do a two-month extension of the payroll tax holiday and unemployment benefits. The cost will be borne by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac mortgage originators. And the key concession from the White House is to relent on language that forces them to make an expedited decision on the Keystone XL tar sands pipeline. The fascinating thing about that is that the White House has already said that if they are compelled to make a quick decision, they will reject the pipeline. So, you have the spectacle of the Republicans ostensibly going to the mat from the oil industry, but actually screwing them over. The White House issued the following statement after the deal was announced: As for the pipeline, The Hill reports: Boehner and Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) said they would not accept even a temporary extension of the payroll tax holiday without the Keystone language. A senior White House official, however, said the president would not accept an attempt by Congress to mandate construction of the pipeline before there was an adequate review of health and safety regulations. The official said the State Department has already said that if the review was shortened to 60 days as it is in this bill, it won’t be able to conduct the necessary review. So the pipeline will almost certainly not be approved, the official said, proving the entire process moot. I have a problem with the word “moot.” First, it used to mean “debatable” until Jesse Jackson went on Saturday Night Live and changed the meaning into something closer to “no longer relevant.” That’s the sense in which The Hill uses it. The language in the bill is unimportant (from the perspective of anyone who opposes the pipeline) because it won’t create the pipeline. But, if the administration is to be believed, the language will actually kill the pipeline. If that’s the case, it’s hardly moot. We’re about to watch the Republicans kill the pipeline by voting for it. Democrats who vote against the language will actually be making a failed attempt to save the pipeline. » Posted By Chernynkaya On December 17, 2011 @ 11:21 am Bito (and don’t show this to C’lady at the risk she’ll go completely bald from tearing out more hair–I hesitate to post this!)here’s another example of that liberal bastion of facts, the New York Times Editorial Board: EDITORIAL This is a complete political cave-in, one that reinforces the impression of a fumbling presidency. » Posted By Chernynkaya On December 15, 2011 @ 9:02 pm Bito, yes I remember that. It’s pretty amazing that despite all that, we are winning in the polls. It’s a big country. We only hear from that same 14 million asshats over and over. Nixon’s phrase rings true today: the silent majority are on OUR side for a change. » Posted By Chernynkaya On December 15, 2011 @ 4:51 pm Is it any wonder that so many people are confused about the defense bill? Here’s Bernie Sanders: “This bill also contains misguided provisions that in the name of fighting terrorism essentially authorize the indefinite imprisonment of American citizens without charges. While we must aggressively pursue international terrorists and all of those who would do us harm, we must do it in a way that protects the Constitution and the civil liberties which make us proud to be Americans.” This aside, he makes the stronger statement that the Bill increases military spending even though the Iraq War is over. That’s a very good point IMO, but fails to take into account the triggered cuts coming after the Super Committee failure. http://sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=4e84d833-0f2b-480e-a564-36e84f29b729 » Posted By Chernynkaya On December 15, 2011 @ 2:58 pm For good or ill, Rachel’s audience is about 2 million. Bill Orally’s is about 4 million. And the network nightly news shows are about 30+ million. My theory is that whenever an issue is complex, the public tunes out–even on Rachel. It’s a good new/bad news situation. But here is a decidedly BAD news situation: Limbaugh has “a minimum” of 14.75 million listeners who tune in at least once a week. Hannity is second with a minimum of 13.75 million. Tied for third in the Talkers survey are Glenn Beck, Michael Savage and Dr. Laura Schlessinger, with a minimum of 8.25 million weekly listeners. In sixth place are Laura Ingraham and Mark Levin, both heard locally on WABC, with a minimum of 5.75 million. Mike Gallagher and Michael Medved of WNYM clock in at 4.75 million, Bill Bennett of WNYM at 3.5 million, Ed Schultz of WWRL at 2.5 million and Don Imus of WABC at 2 million. And yet, Obama and the Dems won in ’08. And yet, we are winning in most polls. But of course, this is all very tenuous. Keep fighting! We must all pick up the torn out hair from the floor and Super Glue it back on our heads, and close our gaping mouths until 2012. We can pull it out again–along with rending our clothes and buying one-way tickets to Costa Rica–if we lose! 🙂 » Posted By Chernynkaya On December 15, 2011 @ 1:08 pm I comfort myself by telling myself that the people on Twitter and at The Nation comprise about 5% if the voting public. And of that number there ARE some people who understand what’s going on. I honestly don’t think this issue is a hot topic among the vast majority of people. I am much more worried about the reaction to the payroll tax fight going on now, in terms of public reaction. » Posted By Chernynkaya On December 15, 2011 @ 12:48 pm C’Lady, not to make you tear out any more hair, but I watched the ACLU guy last night on Maddow and he spent 10 minutes talking about the bill and he never mentioned the issue of US citizens or aliens on American soil being detained–the very issue everyone is mis-reporting. The ACLU lawsuit apparently now has nothing to do with that. I guess he read the bill finally but they are still suing. Here’s the link–he’s on at about the 3.28 sec mark: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#45677673 Visit msnbc.com for breaking news, world news, and news about the economy » Posted By Chernynkaya On December 15, 2011 @ 11:57 am That’s a relief, KQ. I was just watching Maddow and the guy from the ACLU proclaimed just the opposite. Eventually, print journalists (like TPM, Atlantic, ThinkProgress–non-firebaggers) will realize what the bill does and doesn’t do, and write about the real bill but too late. There is a lot of lazy and/or not too-smart-journalists who I follow on Twitter who are asking “what’s in the bill?” Chris Hayes did that about an hour ago–said he was confused. But as I said–too late. The media has already declared the end of democracy. I don’t really see this bill as any more awful than the original, but Maddow reported that top security officials don’t like it. » Posted By Chernynkaya On December 14, 2011 @ 7:02 pm Oh, definitely, E’cat. But it’s pretty pathetic that only 8% knew all those answers. Still, I’m “chuffed” too! (great word, and I never heard it!) » Posted By Chernynkaya On December 14, 2011 @ 11:14 am Loved this line: “Why so loose, the Saran wrap?”–sentence structure pitch perfect! I used to do a lot of that nonsense at home. Covered my entire kitchen in tin foil for Passover. Ugh. — I also like that action alert calling for Lowes to stop using Arabic numerals. Sharia Numbers!! And I feel the same way about burqas–don’t like them. » Posted By Chernynkaya On December 14, 2011 @ 10:47 am Amen Sistah! » Posted By Chernynkaya On December 14, 2011 @ 9:27 am They are typing so furiously and with such intense venom, that they can’t take the time to pay attention to those red squigglies. If there were no electronic documents, I bet we’d see that they write in that teeny tiny and obsessively neat handwriting that psychotics do. » Posted By Chernynkaya On December 13, 2011 @ 5:38 pm HAH! He was a particular fave of mine, kes. He looks like “Deiter” in the old SNL skit! » Posted By Chernynkaya On December 13, 2011 @ 4:40 pm OMG do you know me or what? I bookmarked that site yesterday!! But a couple of them are kinda cool–at least to my warped mind. » Posted By Chernynkaya On December 13, 2011 @ 3:37 pm E’cat that is a huge amount of money to have to turn down! I’d have to really summon all my resolve and ethics to turn that down, to be honest. Of course, my property would probably be worthless once they fracked it. I really hope that Obama will say no, especially now that the EPA has weighed in–that’s a big deal. But I don’t think he will. Fortunately, he already said he’d veto the payroll tax extension if it included that Poison Pill. » Posted By Chernynkaya On December 12, 2011 @ 8:19 pm Russell Simmons is a real mensch. I really have come to admire and appreciate him. » Posted By Chernynkaya On December 12, 2011 @ 8:12 pm Much appreciated, Sue. You know one of the things in that Wash. Monthly piece that made me both sad and angry was his point that if Obama had the support among all Dems that he has among the AA community, imagine how much more he could accomplish. If the R’s knew we all had his back he could negotiate from a much stronger position. They have a strong base behind them and therefore have no incentive to compromise whereas Obama has no such avid support–and so unfairly–he has to think that he is alone in his dealings with the Right. » Posted By Chernynkaya On December 12, 2011 @ 8:01 pm Sue, you saved my sanity there. Google failed me in my fast look. I knew I’d heard that Marcus was a asshat, but when I looked up the new CEO, he looked like a decent guy. » Posted By Chernynkaya On December 12, 2011 @ 7:45 pm Sue that is freaking perfect! » Posted By Chernynkaya On December 12, 2011 @ 6:35 pm E’cat, please see my comment to Sue below–I am totally wrong about Home Depot! » Posted By Chernynkaya On December 12, 2011 @ 6:33 pm Bito, please see my comment above to Sue. I was wrong! » Posted By Chernynkaya On December 12, 2011 @ 6:33 pm You know–I am completely wrong!! I was sure that the CEO of Home Depot was a real Rightie, but he’s not! Who was i thinking of, because I could swear the guy I called a RWNJ? After some research it seems Home Depot is the good guy! Yikes! » Posted By Chernynkaya On December 12, 2011 @ 6:32 pm I hear that, bito. It’s really a dilemma, in the way WalMart is too. This is really a case of the lesser of two evils, and I think Loews is actually less evil. » Posted By Chernynkaya On December 12, 2011 @ 6:19 pm I saw that just now! Love it. But I have to confess–I’m so lowbrow that the farting one is my favorite. I laughed!! » Posted By Chernynkaya On December 12, 2011 @ 5:35 pmComments Posted By Chernynkaya
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@DanaPerino well what i was saying is big win for potus in that u have to admit he pushed payroll tax cut while top GOP like Kyl said NO
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The President said that Congress cannot go home without preventing a tax increase on 160 million hardworking Americans, and the deal announced tonight meets that test. This is an important step towards enacting a key provision of the President’s American Jobs Act and a significant victory for the American people and the economy, because as independent analysts have said, failing to extend this tax cut would have had a damaging effect on our recovery and job growth. The President urges Congress now to finish up their business for the American people.
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