Displaying 301 To 330 Of 19,504 Comments Impeachment Is Happening…But This Wasn’t The Plan The Dem who beats Trump in 2020 will indeed have a lot to fix when they start, whoever it ends up to be should go big with a bill covering the widespread repairs, like an “American Renewal Act of 2021” that funds the personnel and expenses for repairing our government, infrastructure, voting security and protections, health care, etc. An omnibus bill that offers hope and quick action. And despite all that’s happened, the door should be left open for Repubs to try and rehabilitate themselves and join in after the Trump Spell has been broken. And if they refuse, hopefully we’ll have a Dem Congress to do it anyway. As for the Electoral College, that’s not going to be so easy to get rid of, too many Repub states are the small ones with outsized power, in elections and The Senate. Changing the Constitution with them opposing it is unlikely. However, if we can pass a new Voting Rights Act that prevents Repubs from rigging elections with Voter ID, voter suppression and election machine monkey business, they can lose their advantage for at least a decade and hopefully far longer than that. Then maybe we can get rid of the Electoral College with more Dems in charge of currently red states. » Posted By AdLib On October 8, 2019 @ 11:19 pm It seems to me that part of the Trump strategy on this is to act as if he never provided the notes of the conversation between him and Zelinsky, as if that evidence doesn’t even exist. They keep trying this propaganda about 2nd and 3rd hand info when the 1st hand info Trump provided perfecttly matches the whistleblower’s allegations. They’re trying to shut a non-existent door after the horse has not only gotten out but is already in the next county. It will help to rile up his cultists but they are a smaller and smaller minority and this won’t help build support from indies that he needs to have majority support against impeachment or for winning re-election. » Posted By AdLib On September 30, 2019 @ 1:33 pm Please excuse the numerous Twitter posts, this is not what I typically do but Trump is having a real mental breakdown tonight and spewing crazed tweets and threats, one after another. In this latest episode of “American Horror Story”, Trump cracks up and after threatening whistleblowers and the chairman of the House Intelligence committee, he threatens 327 million Americans that if he’s impeached, he’ll bring about a Civil War to destroy America. He is so intensely stupid and desperate, he not only provided the evidence to assure his impeachment but he is forcing Senate Republicans to either support a raving lunatic or vote to remove him. He’s taking away any legit excuse for leaving him in office. ….If the Democrats are successful in removing the President from office (which they will never be), it will cause a Civil War like fracture in this Nation from which our Country will never heal.” Pastor Robert Jeffress, @FoxNews — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 30, 2019 » Posted By AdLib On September 29, 2019 @ 7:10 pm Okay…this is some next level insanity and dictatorship. One one hand, it is exciting because it proves Trump knows he’ll be impeached and his House of Evil is coming crashing down on him…on the other hand, it is genuinely scary to see that he wants to act like Putin and jail or kill whoever he sees as his enemy. His lies were made in perhaps the most blatant and sinister manner ever seen in the great Chamber. He wrote down and read terrible things, then said it was from the mouth of the President of the United States. I want Schiff questioned at the highest level for Fraud & Treason….. — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 29, 2019 » Posted By AdLib On September 29, 2019 @ 4:41 pm In honor of Trump’s impeachment, here’s an encore presentation of a video I posted a while back, when we thought Trump would be impeached earlier on. Enjoy!
» Posted By AdLib On September 27, 2019 @ 1:16 pm It would be for months, not even a year, she could do it just fine but I think it’s better not to be in the middle of the resulting turmoil for her and the Dems. The best case scenario would really be removing Trump then Pence being in the middle of madness as the 2020 election approaches without a strong Repub candidate and a country that wants sanity and normalcy back by voting Dem. Not much can get done in an election year anyway, let Pence and the GOP take the hit for that as we mop the floor with them in 2020. » Posted By AdLib On September 27, 2019 @ 9:54 am I saw a few Hillary fanatics on Twitter all whipped up about a ridiculous plan where Trump and Pence are impeached, Pelosi becomes President, appoints Hillary as VP then resigns as president to make Hillary president who then appoints Pelosi back as Speaker. And I thought Trumpers cornered the market on nutty, fantasy world theories. The odds are, IMO, that Congress would never try to impeach twice. Trump will be impeached, probably not removed but it’s possible and if he is, Pence will serve out Trump’s term as the GOP frags each other without a consensus candidate for 2020. No one likes Pence anyway except the religious extremists. Trump’s base is his, not Pence’s and having the stank of Trump on him will only make him deader in the water. » Posted By AdLib On September 27, 2019 @ 9:36 am Thanks Opie Cat! I was worried Trump was getting away with everything including corrupting our democracy, elections and government (as he and Steve Bannon had planned) but this has been like the hero coming to the rescue at the last minute (the whistleblower and those officials working with him are indeed heroes that deserve the place in history that will be awarded to them). I just wish I could go back in the past just to send myself an email at least a few months ago, “Don’t worry, Trump’s is definitely going to be impeached very soon.” Would have saved me a fortune in antacids and Ambien. » Posted By AdLib On September 26, 2019 @ 10:52 pm I do agree that whatever Repubs in The Senate decide to do, it will be driven by fear, not spines. I can imagine fear of Trump turning on them and losing power, keeping them from voting to convict him. I can also imagine that if the impeachment process causes polls for Repubs to crater, as I think it will, they could be driven by fear of losing re-e,ection because they’re tied to Trump, as reason to vote to convict and remove him. The first proposition seems the likeliest but the second one is possible. » Posted By AdLib On September 26, 2019 @ 10:45 pm Just the idea of Trump being in fear and despair is enough tonight to make me smile. Earlier in the week he was whining about not being nominated for a Nobel prize, trying to cover his insecurity so transparently. And instead of the acclaim he constantly needs, instead of being able to go down in history as one of our greatest presidents and instead of besting President Obama as he maniacally needs to do, he’s tossing and turning in bed tonight, whimpering as he thinks about how he will go down in history as one of the rare impeached presidents and not knowing if he will also be the first and only president removed from office. The Repubs are backing away from him. Even Fox News is struggling over staying with Trump or not. This can only get worse for Trump and what is probably tearing him up the most, as someone whose whole con job and story is about being a winner, is that he will be remembered and have to live out his life as a loser. A very pathetic and humiliated loser. We owe that whistleblower and the officials who worked with him, the gratitude of a nation! » Posted By AdLib On September 26, 2019 @ 10:42 pm I don’t know, it’s hard for me to imagine that Senate Repubs would suddenly grow spines and get tough with Trump. Another scenario could be that they just continue to act cowardly and duck everything until the impeachment vote then they’ll have to decide if they can risk being dragged down with Trump or cutting loose to save themselves. I don’t think there is any other leader than Trump in the GOP so it’s hard to imagine McConnell or anyone else actively pushing him to resign…out of fear he won’t resign or be removed and then will turn on them to destroy them. I see the Repubs as more feckless, knowing this is a head-on collision coming their way but too scared to get out of the way. Then again, if things continue looking terrible for Trump’s prospects, they may let their greed for power and re-election convince them that they have to come together and push him out. Either way, the GOP is continuing to be badly damaged and will be even more since Trump is the symbol of their party and their prospects in 2020 are bleaker each day. » Posted By AdLib On September 26, 2019 @ 5:17 pm When the Watergate impeachment hearings began, only 19% of Americans supported them. As this one against Trump has began this week, already 49% support it. And it’s just started! I agree, I think we’ll see a clear majority supporting it by next week…if not sooner. Trump is not escaping this without being impeached and if he’s not removed, he will be so damaged in 2020, Repubs could lose in the biggest landslide for Dems in our lifetiime. » Posted By AdLib On September 26, 2019 @ 4:23 pm Thanks so much, NoManIsAnIsland! Heh! So much more to be said after today though! Like this: Public support for Dem impeachment inquiry now wins a plurality, 49%-46%. And it is only growing in support! » Posted By AdLib On September 26, 2019 @ 4:03 pm Steppenwolf, it’s not a strong argument to blindly attack a whistleblower complaint when you have no direct information about it. There’s a big difference between what you don’t like and what’s true. The whistleblower complaint was confirmed as a national security concern and urgent by the IC IG who was appointed by Trump. And you don’t seem to understand what a whistleblower complaint is in the first place. It is made when someone in the government has knowledge of a severe wrong but can be fired or harassed by his superiors because it involves them. IOW, had he taken your advice, Trump could have and probably would have fired him and buried his complaint immediately. You’ve made a lot of statements of fact that aren’t facts. How do you know there was no reason for haste? You have no information about the report. And Dems just reached 218 votes so you are wrong again about stating they don’t have a majority to pass impeachment in The House. Your assumptions also don’t make sense to me either, that impeachment was perfect timing for Trump? Huh? And everyone who wants to stop Trump’s damaging our democracy are ‘foaming at the mouth” yet you have not one word of criticism for Trump who appeared to be extorting Ukraine to attack his political rival? You’re welcome to your opinion but it’s not based on the facts or lack thereof. » Posted By AdLib On September 25, 2019 @ 2:29 pm 218 VOTES IN THE HOUSE FOR IMPEACHMENT!!! https://media.giphy.com/media/l0MYt5jPR6QX5pnqM/giphy.gif » Posted By AdLib On September 25, 2019 @ 2:05 pm Right with you on this. Both parties put up a facade for their base voters. I don’t have to describe the Trump GOP’s facade but the Dem facade tries to hide how beholden and loyal they are corporations and lobbyists by presenting their party as belonging to the people. There are legit Dems who do think in terms of being there to represent what’s best for the people but they aren’t in leadership as much as the beholden. I do see progress on this though and The Squad represents that change as well as Pelosi pledging that she will step aside from leadership in 2020. We need to elect a bunch more Progressives then! » Posted By AdLib On September 24, 2019 @ 9:30 pm Yes, Pence met with the Ukrainians too in this criminal venture, he’s guilty too and he could be impeached along with Trump. And criminal indictments under a new Dem President in 2021 should include William Barr, Rudy Giuliani and Miike Pence…n addition to Trump. » Posted By AdLib On September 24, 2019 @ 8:56 pm I think the proof is in the pudding, Trump is already backing down to Congress for the first time since he took office, promising to provide the notes from the Ukrainian call and the testimony and complaint from the whistle-blower. Trump is finally worried and that’s proof that his fear of impeachment flips that bully into a coward. As for the concern about impeachment, it helps to consider the process. There will be televised hearings now with witnesses that Trump won’t be able to block and evidence he won’t be able to hide. After months of hammering home the specifics of the crimes Trump has committed (and his tax returns will also have to be provided to an official impeachment inquiry), Trump will be bloodied and his guilt will be obvious. The whole reason McConnell allowed that precedent-breaking unanimous consent vote to take place in The Senate was that the fear of protecting Trump’s criminal behavior was powerful for them. The same will be the case when an impeachment vote on a proven criminal president comes to McConnell. We just had a preview of what will happen and McConnell is a coward, he won’t sacrifice his re-election for Trump. » Posted By AdLib On September 24, 2019 @ 8:53 pm Yes, I posted about that letter last night, it sure seemed to be a prelude to a formal impeachment inquiry. I do think that what happened, from spending time on Twitter over the weekend and seeing a big surge in vociferous tweeting by Dems and indies at Pelosi, congresspeople, etc., forcefully urging them to support impeachment and others telling people to make sure they call or email their congresspeople, that the groundswell from the public became irresistible for those 7 congresspeople and all the ones who’ve followed. I’m sure some of the congresspeople were already alarmed but the intensity of the grass roots reaction to this betrayal by Trump pushed them over the top. As I mention above, it was a moment like El Paso where people said “Do something!” More speeches were not acceptable, action was demanded and to the Dems and Pelosi’s credit, they took action. » Posted By AdLib On September 24, 2019 @ 8:45 pm I do hope that Dem leadership will FINALLY learn a lesson about operating from a position of fearfulness vs. doing the right thing…but I’m not sure about that. I do hope Progressives find their way into strong positions of leadership and then, they can help to make better and more timely decisions for the party. It is important to be thoughtful and strategic about making decisions but Pelosi’s wrong-headed game of throwing the majority of Dems in the House and especially Progressives a bone while blocking impeachment to protect a minority of fearful Dems has been proven to be a big mistake. Hours after Pelosi stopped blocking impeachment and got on board, a flood of Dems joined on in The House and Senate and Trump, for the first time, backed down to Congress to offer the Ukrainian call notes (though they’ll be manipulated) and the whistle-blower’s complaint and testimony. No way any of that would have happened otherwise. So, will the more conservative and fearful Dems learn from their mistakes? I doubt it. The best way forward is to keep them out of leadership. But as we agree, from now until the 2020 election, the only productive path is to come together and help push impeachment of Trump and victory in 2020 forward. After we win in 2020, it will be time to get our Dem house in order though. » Posted By AdLib On September 24, 2019 @ 8:36 pm I’ll continue to disagree with you on that. I just don’t understand the inflation of Pelosi into this omniscient, infallible genius. She is a talented politician but she is human and she’s does make mistakes. She made a huge mistake by stonewalling impeachment and publicly disputing that the current hearings were impeachment hearings. She damaged the perception of Democrats as being toothless, allowed their hearings to become circuses and stalled, unattended by Trump admin and lawyers. Pelosi answered questions about impeachment by saying she’d rather see Trump in jail, rather see him defeated in 2020. Not impeached. Giving someone who opposed something, credit for it happening despite their opposition escapes me. I give credit to the people like Nadler who pressed Pelosi to accept having hearings and impeachment. That wasn’t what she wanted. In fact, she got upset with him going farther than she wanted. But as it’s all turned out, he was right and she’s was wrong. Pelosi does deserve respect for her many accomplishments, including whipping the vote for the ACA. But I think it diminishes her actual accomplishments by giving her credit for things she opposed happening but happened anyway. » Posted By AdLib On September 24, 2019 @ 6:08 pm Actually, there doesn’t need to be a vote yet on Articles of Impeachment. The hearings can complete first then vote out Articles from their committees to Ben referred to the whole House. The thing about Pence is that he’s got dirty hands with Ukraine too, he hand meetings there. He, Barr, Pompeo, Giuliani and Mulvaney are all on the legal radar now. And Pence doesn’t inspire Repub voters like Trump, he could be much easier to beat. » Posted By AdLib On September 24, 2019 @ 5:48 pm That’s good news! I think within the week, Dems could have the 218 votes they need. Now that leadership is rowing in the same direction as pro-impeachment members, we can see the snowballing going on. And an immediate validation of impeachment is how Trump has folded today on releasing the call transcript and the whistle-blower report. Nothing like this hasn’t happened before the official impeachment inquiry started. » Posted By AdLib On September 24, 2019 @ 5:42 pm What I have heard so far is that the existing investigations will continue as is but they will now have the stronger arguments in courts to ask for expedited decisions and be more entitled to documents and testimony because they are official and constitutionally empowered investigations. » Posted By AdLib On September 24, 2019 @ 5:09 pm What do you mean? When did I ever say that I needed a House vote right now? She will eventually need to have a vote and after this week, after she has 218 votes, I think she will. She could have said this before and she created a big problem for the investigations previously by giving the Trump legal team the argument that Democrats did not agree on these being impeachment hearings so they weren’t legit investigations deserving of evidence and testimony. She repaired the damage she caused now and gave the impeachment query legitimacy. That is exactly what I wanted. What have I written that made you think I didn’t? » Posted By AdLib On September 24, 2019 @ 5:06 pm I’m sorry if my response came off badly. It’s a very powerful moment and a validation for those who have been pressing for impeachment regardless of political considerations. What I was strongly reacting to is crediting Pelosi, who has been the major obstacle to doing this, for this moment. None of her mandatory conditions were met which is proof that this didn’t happen because of her, it happened despite her. As I said, the bandwagon was rolling and she could either jump on it or get run over. She wasn’t driving it. So why not give credit to all of the Congresspeople and grass roots people who pushed the cart to an unstoppable speed? As I’ve mentioned, I don’t hold grudges and after today, as long as she isn’t given credit that belongs to others, I won’t have any more criticisms about Pelosi on this…unless she again tries to stonewall impeachment. » Posted By AdLib On September 24, 2019 @ 4:59 pm Here is a portion of Pelosi’s announcement supporting an impeachment inquiry:
» Posted By AdLib On September 24, 2019 @ 3:48 pm Thanks so much, NoManIsAnIsland! I think it is very important in these times, when there are those people who insult activism and trivialize it, that when the people step up and make something happen, they should be recognized for it and encouraged to keep it up. We’re going to need them helping GOTV in 2020, registering voters, etc. And part of recognizing those who made something happen, is not standing by and letting those who advocated against that or weren’t part of that effort, like Pelosi, to unfairly take that credit from them. This is only an immediate issue for me, the grass roots made this happen and I think recognition of those who supported and promoted this deserve the limelight to themselves. But after that initial victory lap that I think they deserve to take, we should all join them on the track together, with no grudges or resentments, and win this race together. » Posted By AdLib On September 24, 2019 @ 3:37 pm Murph, to be very frank, that is ridiculous. Pelosi is not Nostradamus, she didn’t “plan” on Trump doing this exact outrage at this exact time or at any time, It is a sign of strength, not weakness, to admit when you’ve made a mistake. And she made a mistake by not supporting impeachment and emboldened Trump to do such a horrible thing. It’s not a coincidence that he committed this act the day after Mueller testified…and Dems didn’t impeach. He felt untouchable because of that. And those who supported Pelosi’s stonewalling made a mistake, it doesn’t change that by saying that now that she’s having to support impeachment, it was “the plan”. That’s just silly. You have argued Pelosi was correct for opposing impeachment because of all the reasons she laid out, listed below. First, you said if she didn’t have 218 votes in The House, she shouldn’t go along with impeachment. They still don’t have 218. So that box isn’t checked. Second, you said there was no point to proceed if a 2/3 vote couldn’t be had in The Senate, that box isn’t checked. Third, you said impeachment shouldn’t proceed if a majority of the public doesn’t support it first, you stressed this many times. That box isn’t checked. I’m sorry if I’m a little frank about all of this but I think it is wrong for those who have been opposing impeachment for a variety of reasons, to swoop in and try and take credit for it when it happens without any of their requirements being met. I detailed above why this happened and it had virtually nothing to do with Pelosi or those who were supporting her stonewalling of impeachment. Credit should go to those who genuinely made this happen, the grass roots, the Americans out there who have been supporting impeachment and finally had their “Do Something” moment after this outrageous betrayal and abuse of power by Trump. They called, texted and tweeted all those Dem Reps in red districts this week to push them to support impeachment. And many other grass roots Dems called and wrote to Pelosi and other Dem leadership, as well as Dems who already supported impeachment. This was a grass roots groundswell that brought this about, they’re the ones deserving the most credit. Pelosi had one choice, jump on the rolling bandwagon or get run over by it and she jumped on. That is not a plan, that was not her plan, she did what she had no choice to do once the momentum became unstoppable. I am very glad she did and I will support her and let bygones be bygones on this but I think credit should always and only be given to those who did the hard work despite opposition and achieved the goal. » Posted By AdLib On September 24, 2019 @ 2:54 pm Weekend Music Thread – Wag the Dog I accept that challenge! Here’s an oldie that actually dates back to 1914! And no, I didn’t own the original 78!
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