There won’t be any shutdown here tonight, we’re hosting our weekly live chat about the week’s events, Vox Populi, at 7:00PM PST. Hope to see you then!
AdLib 3 hours ago
Hey PPO!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Don’t forget to say “Hi!” or “Shutdown Trump” when you arrive!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Two hours until shutdown!
AdLib 2 hours ago
STORMy weather ahead!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Yep, Trump’s going to get a spanking. I mean, another spanking.
AdLib an hour ago
And for there too be a shutdown on his one year anniversary of being inaugurated, couldn’t be more fitting.
AdLib an hour ago
De poor uggums may miss his party. Bet he’s spitting chips right now
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Yep, saw a tweet from a reporter that he’s fuming about not being able to go to his shithole in FL to celebrate.
AdLib an hour ago
all the poor suckers who shelled out all that dosh will want their mney bck. Good Luck to that!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
This is exactly how a year of Trump is celebrated, you shut down the whole government he’s been screwing up.
AdLib an hour ago
yes! The equivalent of declaring bankruptcy!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
$100k per couple and $250k to be at Trump’s table. No refunds!
AdLib an hour ago
now if only he would just walk away
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Perp walk away.
AdLib an hour ago
in fluffy handcuffs so he thinks its a kniky game
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
It’s all fun and games until the prison cell locks.
AdLib an hour ago
… and he is introduced to Bubba and Skull, his party pals!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
and not a Forbes mag in sight
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Damn, you beat me to it! Was just typing that! One pont for you!
AdLib an hour ago
point
AdLib an hour ago
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
So Repubs control all f government and they think they can blame Dems for this? Heh!
AdLib an hour ago
How is your weather? Did you hed muddy?
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
get muddy?
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Weather is great here, one fire was kind of close to us, 4 miles away, but the mud slides were 60 miles away.
AdLib an hour ago
Good. that was scary to watch.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Poor Trumpy, his term will always be remembered for this massive failure. Mr. Fart of the Deal.
AdLib an hour ago
still an hour or so to go? Dems standing firm?
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Yes, very scary! The fore near us was next to the freeway, you probably saw the video of that.
AdLib an hour ago
yes. and now is the area bare and prone to mudslides?
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Yes, so far it looks like Dems are standing firm. The Senate vote has been delayed by Repubs, maybe they’re trying to work out a deal with Dems? But even if they do, the Repub House coould refuse to vote for it.
AdLib an hour ago
Running around like chickens with no heads, I bet
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Yes, we did drive by the area that had the mudslides, Montecito, before the slides and the mountains were charred and barren.
AdLib an hour ago
McConnell tried to hardball Dems, they could have had this vote last night but he wanted to push it to the last minute tonight thinking Dems would have to fold. Another huge McConnell failure.
AdLib an hour ago
If they voted last night, after the House bill failed, they could have had a bipartisan bill voted on tonight and avooided a shutdown (if Repubs in The House would approve it).
AdLib an hour ago
Getting a bit bewildered now!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Hey glenn!
AdLib an hour ago
PPO – The House voted on a Continuing Resolution (CR) that is a temporary funding bill and set out funding for a month but excluded DACA and included ACA attacks.
AdLib an hour ago
Hey gents, how is everyone tonight?
glenn
an hour ago
So, Ad, any news on the shutdown? Still looking like we’ll have one?
glenn
an hour ago
hi glenn, Stormy night!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Hey PPO–stormy as in your weather; or stormy in the Senate?
glenn
an hour ago
They did that last night. Then it went over to The Senate last night. They sat on it until tonight to try and force Dems to go along with it or be blamed for the shutdown. Now, they are going to vote on it but Dems won’t go along with it. They played Russian Roulette and lost.
AdLib an hour ago
Stormy as in hush money and Forbes magazine.
AdLib an hour ago
Ad–oooh duh! That went right over my head; sitting low in my seat tonight!
glenn
an hour ago
PPO – Did the heat spell out your way finally end?
AdLib an hour ago
Ad–glad to hear you missed the fires and mud slides!
glenn
an hour ago
Ad, finally, yes! 107 Wed, 110 yesterday, but change in and now mid-80s
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
The vote is going on right now and will go dwn in failure. McConnell thinks they can blame the Dems but Repubs control everything!
AdLib an hour ago
Don’t worry, glenn, we’re all a bit bewildered these days
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Thanks glenn! We’re in the flats, not in the hills so we weren’t really at risk.
AdLib an hour ago
PPO – Glad to hear it! That heat wave lasted a long time!
AdLib an hour ago
They’re doing the roll call on the vote and Dems didn’t cave! They stood strong!
AdLib an hour ago
Welcome to the Trump Shutdown!
AdLib an hour ago
Ad–so let me see if I have repub “logic” correct. Trump signs an EO to end DACA; then trump and the repubs want the Dems to do something for the Dreamers, but won’t reinstate DACA until trump gets funding for the border wall; then blames Dems for not doing what repubs want, even though repubs control all three branches of government. Is that about right?
glenn
an hour ago
Lindsay Graham voted no!
AdLib an hour ago
Ooooh shit! Is Shithole on his way to Mar a lingus yet?
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Yea! Glad to hear Dems stood strong; it’s about time!
glenn
an hour ago
Ad–Do you know how Flake voted? After all his talk against trump, did he actually “walk the walk”?
glenn
an hour ago
glenn – That’s a pretty complete rundown! Rand Paul voted no too!
AdLib an hour ago
glenn – Trump basically took Dreamers hostage to get his wall and it all blew up in his face.
AdLib an hour ago
What will Trump be tweeting? as if we didn’t know!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
PPO – Haven’t heard yet but it ain’t gonna be the celebration Trumpy wanted at Shit-a-lago.
AdLib an hour ago
HEY FD!!!
AdLib an hour ago
Hey Planet peeps! Que pasa?
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Ad–Wow! Rand Paul, too. Oh, yeah, it blew up in trump’s face, but he isn’t going to take responsibility for it. I can practically write the tweet now. Dems don’t want to fund the military, and will put illegal immigrants over American citizens. Sad!
glenn
an hour ago
glenn – Haven’t heard Flake’s vote yet.
AdLib an hour ago
Hey Fuzzy–long time no “see”.
glenn
an hour ago
Hey Glenn. Time doth pass! Just ask Ad!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
HI stranger! LTNS how are you?
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
glenn – But with Graham and Paul voting no, they can’t say it was all Dems and 4 Dems voted yes, no doubt released by Schumer when they knew the vote would fail (and the Dems are in red states).
AdLib an hour ago
Hey P! how ave you been?
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Fuzzy–yeah, time doth pass, and passes much more quickly when you get to be my age.
glenn
an hour ago
Props, FD!
AdLib an hour ago
Ad, good strategy for them. Still happy the blackmail attempt failed.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Kudos, Ad.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
You’ve been missed, FD!
AdLib an hour ago
Awww!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
FD, Up and Down, like all of us. Health probs as usual, but others have it worse, so nnot complaining. Yourself>
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
?
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
PPO – And Dems are in the driver’s seat. Trump and Repubs will have to fold and agree to a DACA fix or the walls will keep crumbling dwn n Trump and Repubs.
AdLib an hour ago
Ad–doesn’t matter to trump or repubs how many Dems voted “aye” and how many repubs voted “nay”; it’s still going to be the Dems’ fault in the stable genius bizarro world.
glenn
an hour ago
Hopefully the twitter and FB world is pushing tht its a GOP failure, bigly!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
i’ve been rather reveling in a once scattered family slowly converging….Local wise. Geography makes a difference!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
glenn – Of course they’ll try to blame Dems, along with Russian bots on Twitter and Facebook but America knows which party is in power and who’s in the WH.
AdLib an hour ago
PPO–latest polls I saw today say that 48% of Americans say repubs would be to blame for shutdown as opposed to 28% who say Dems. That about squares up with the size of trump’s base–about 30%.
glenn
an hour ago
That’s OK Ad. The GOP is self destructing…before our very eyes.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Good for you, FD.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Waiting for Hillary to get a mention!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
FD – That’s very cool!
AdLib an hour ago
Fuzzy–nice to hear that your family is coming together.
glenn
an hour ago
PPO–Hillary getting a mention as in it’s her fault the repubs shut the government down?
glenn
an hour ago
glenn, I don’t care one lick about who gets blamed for any coming shutdown. Any shutdown won’t really last and it will accomplish nothing for the American people, nor will it cause any lasting harm. It’s just a childish, “Where’s my Captain Crunch,” screaming in the cereal isle.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
glenn – Exactly, that poll proves what seems obvious. Wonder if Repubs will spend all their energy trying to blame Dems or finding a bipartisan deal?
AdLib an hour ago
Yeah Glenn, it is. We’ve always been “close,” but not in any way, geographically.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
PPO – Yeah, isn’t this Hillary’s fault? Didn’t her email server cause the shutdown?
AdLib an hour ago
FD–true as to who gets blamed for the shutdown; but repubs have to have their alternative facts and I just want to make sure that people know real facts.
glenn
an hour ago
DEms should just say to the American people, blame who you will. We have legislation that could solve our problems, and we have 6th grade partisan bickering. What’s the choice?
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
FD–yeah, that geography works against you sometimes.
glenn
44 minutes ago
Fiendish plan, crested in the basement of that Pizza joint
pinkpantheroz
44 minutes ago
FD – The Shutdown does prove how unfit Trump and Repubs are in running the government though. No matter what deal is reached, this stain will stay on them.
AdLib 44 minutes ago
Ad, …. until the next scandal braks and no one remembers anymore, there being so many
pinkpantheroz
44 minutes ago
Oh sure, Ad, but this is not the first shutdown. Imitation, is not art.
Fuzzy Dunlop
43 minutes ago
FD–sounds so simple, doesn’t it?
glenn
43 minutes ago
It really is. All the rest is theater.
Fuzzy Dunlop
43 minutes ago
Theater for the rubes!
Fuzzy Dunlop
42 minutes ago
FD–and people did make the choice in Nov., even with the plans being there then.
glenn
42 minutes ago
FD – Yes, I think Dems should say loud and clear, “We will stand up for for all those who need our help, Dreamers AND CHIP.
AdLib 42 minutes ago
The problem Dems have is two-fold, IMO. They keep trying to respond to all of the repubs’ lies, and they don’t push their progressive policies enough. Part of that, is when they get on tv, they’re asked about the repubs’ lies, instead of policy.
glenn
41 minutes ago
PPO – I’m not saying that many Americans will be thinking about this in Nov but that the bad taste in their muth abut Repubs being in power will remain, perhaps just in a vague way. Can only help discourage Repubs and motivate Dems.
AdLib 40 minutes ago
Absolutely Ad. The dems leaders need to be reminded of the promises made in the pre-amble to our constitution! The repubs just don’t give a fuck about the preamble or the constitution itself.
Fuzzy Dunlop
40 minutes ago
true, glenn. Problem with HRC was she overdid policy stuff, trying to rise above the crap flying
pinkpantheroz
39 minutes ago
Ad–do you think voters’ short term memory will kick in if the repubs finally pass something on DACA? Then they’ll (repubs) say how they “saved” it, and voters will forget all about this, as PPO says.
glenn
39 minutes ago
Hopefully, Ad, the rage and current enthusiasm of the Resist mob will maintain to Nov.
pinkpantheroz
39 minutes ago
glenn – I forget his name, there was a sharp guy on communicating in politics I saw earlier, who said it’s a mistake to repeat the Trump lies and propaganda, just post truths that counter them.
AdLib 38 minutes ago
People on both side complain about the length of the Meuller investigation, but me thinks there is much method to Meuller’s seeming lack of haste.
Fuzzy Dunlop
37 minutes ago
FD – I think that’s happening now. I can’t remember the Dems having such strength and resolve like this.
AdLib 37 minutes ago
It’s about frickin time, Ad!
Fuzzy Dunlop
37 minutes ago
Ad–agree 100%. As you know, that’s been my “mantra” for a while now. That’s what Dems need to do. However, if they pull a kellyanne, and just start talking over the hosts, then they just sound like repubs. Because you can be sure the hosts aren’t going to ask about policy, they’re going to ask about trump’s lies.
glenn
36 minutes ago
Repubs voting against: Mike Lee, Lindsay Graham, Rand Paul, Jeff Flake.
AdLib 36 minutes ago
Maybe whacky Susan Sarandon wasn’t completely wrong in her predictions. Ouch, did I just type that?
Fuzzy Dunlop
36 minutes ago
Ad and FD–Amen! It’s about frickin’ time!
glenn
36 minutes ago
amen glenn!
Fuzzy Dunlop
35 minutes ago
The yes and no votes were bipartisan! Sorry McConnell, when you blame Dems, we’ll remind folks of the Repubs voting no.
AdLib 35 minutes ago
So there ARE still a couple of moralistic Republicans
pinkpantheroz
35 minutes ago
FD–I thought wacky Susan Sarandon’s predictions were that trump would be a huge success, and that HIllary would be the failure?
glenn
35 minutes ago
Well P, com se, comme si comme ca!
Fuzzy Dunlop
34 minutes ago
Watergate didn’t happen auickly. Mueller is painstaking to get it right first time and cut off any fiddling
pinkpantheroz
34 minutes ago
PPO–it’s not morality–it’s finally putting country above party.
glenn
34 minutes ago
glenn – Some of the news hosts have been slamming Trumpers lately, Joy Reid, Anderson Cooper and Don Lemon have all shut down Trumpers and called out “lies”.
AdLib 33 minutes ago
I agree P. He is dotting all the Is and crossing all the Ts.
Fuzzy Dunlop
33 minutes ago
Maybe the wrong word, glenn, but they did vote against Trump.
pinkpantheroz
33 minutes ago
Ad–Yeah, I loved it when Joy Reid told that one trumper, “This is not Fox News, this is not the way we do things here.”
glenn
33 minutes ago
I love Joy Reid!
glenn
33 minutes ago
FD – Sarandon, like a broken clock, may be right by default this time.
AdLib 32 minutes ago
PPO–yup–and it’s about time they voted against him. Up until now, they just went along; even though Flake made a couple of nice speeches.
glenn
32 minutes ago
Would this be a good time to indict Trump for Sex offences?
pinkpantheroz
32 minutes ago
glenn, I think putting country over party IS a fine example of morality, or what I call the difference between incorrect and correct.
Fuzzy Dunlop
32 minutes ago
PPO – Not sure about Lee or Paul but Graham and Flake voted no on principal. I think Lee and Paul just voted against the CR because it’s temporary.
AdLib 31 minutes ago
Oh, clearly by default. I think he definition of a revolution was a bit different from what we’re seeing now. I don’t know, but that’s my reading.
Fuzzy Dunlop
31 minutes ago
FD–yeah, I didn’t mean to argue semantics with PPO; he’s right it’s the moral thing to do. Nice also that they finally did it on the eve of trump’s one-year anniversary as prez.
glenn
30 minutes ago
her
Fuzzy Dunlop
30 minutes ago
For sure, glenn, for sure. Sweet irony!
Fuzzy Dunlop
30 minutes ago
PPO – I’m just fine with Mueller taking his time to make his cases complete and airtight…but I can hardly wait for the biggest indictments to\ come!
AdLib 29 minutes ago
I said earlier that those folk at the Party will go nuts if the man doesn’t turn up. All that money wasted (I think it’s wasted already!)
pinkpantheroz
29 minutes ago
glenn – Yep, that’s one of the top two Joy Reid slams. My other favorite is when the Repub woman was on and trying to push the Uranium One BS and she crushed her in questioning.
AdLib 28 minutes ago
Oh man, it’s grueling to have to wait for the outcome of all this. I do think that TRump’s goose is thoroughly cooked. He’s just been so stupid.
Fuzzy Dunlop
28 minutes ago
Does trump have to wait around now ?
pinkpantheroz
27 minutes ago
PPO – I think it’s only the hush money that Trump can be nailed for…unless he lies under oath about the affair. A Bill Clinton remake impeachment?
AdLib 27 minutes ago
The American news media, or should I make a differentiation, the Cable News industry has been a bit slow to catch up. They were quite complicit in the rise of Trump.
Fuzzy Dunlop
26 minutes ago
PPO–well, now that the vote’s been taken and the government has been shut down, trump still can make it to the party, which I believe is tomorrow night. Too bad the government shutdown doesn’t include the shutdown of AF1, so trump couldn’t go anywhere. The pilot of AF1 should say, “Sorry, the government is shut down, so I can’t work.”
glenn
26 minutes ago
PPO – If Trump goes to that party, he’ll be yelling at everyne, would be so funny to see!
AdLib 26 minutes ago
glenn, sorry, yes. It’s already saturday Afternoon here! My bad!
pinkpantheroz
25 minutes ago
Ad–yeah, I saw that one with the Uranium One BS too. Joy knows her stuff!
glenn
25 minutes ago
I’d howl if the AirForce told him, Sorry, no fuel for AF1, Pilots are furloughed and the guy who inflates the tires is off sick
pinkpantheroz
24 minutes ago
FD – Yep, I think Trump is going to be nailed completely for obstructing justice and money laundering. Hoping there’s some concrete evidence for collusion with Russia! The money laundering may be that proof.
AdLib 24 minutes ago
Love me some Joy. She’s smart, and tough. She’s a shining example for women everywhere, regardless of race.
Fuzzy Dunlop
24 minutes ago
The Senate is holding the vote open! McConnell and Schumer have walked off tp conference!
AdLib 23 minutes ago
PPO–No problem, it seems Australia is ahead of the US in much more than just time!
glenn
23 minutes ago
I am really, really, really looking forward to seeing the Orange Menace, in an orange jumpsuit. Probably won’t actually happen, but man, if there where any justice in this world…………..(:
Fuzzy Dunlop
22 minutes ago
I hope Trump is rage-eating Big Macs now and chokes on them.
AdLib 22 minutes ago
Cardiology may be our best hope!
Fuzzy Dunlop
21 minutes ago
Ad–The money laundering is the biggie, I think. That’s why trump has been hiding his taxes.
glenn
21 minutes ago
Ad, so it’s not a shutdown yet?
pinkpantheroz
21 minutes ago
FD–agree about Joy.
glenn
21 minutes ago
No doubt, glenn! He’s awful afraid to make those public.
Fuzzy Dunlop
21 minutes ago
FD – Absolutely! The greedy MSM made a fortune over giving Trump so much coverage during the campaign, now that their Frankenstein is trying to destroy them, they are finally trying t right their ships.
AdLib 20 minutes ago
Joy has balls! OK I know, I went there!
Fuzzy Dunlop
20 minutes ago
FD–I think trump should have to wear the same thing the prisoners had to wear in arapaio’s jail in AZ.
glenn
19 minutes ago
glenn – If only AF1 could be shutdown over the Atlantic.
AdLib 19 minutes ago
Oh glenn, pink would really clash with that orange rust proofing Trump insists on wearing.
Fuzzy Dunlop
18 minutes ago
Well, the fittest guy in the whole USA has lousy LDL bad Chol. numbers. How come? Puppet Doc, that’s how
pinkpantheroz
18 minutes ago
FD–sorry to argue semantics again, but Joy doesn’t have balls; she doesn’t need them; she has brains!
glenn
18 minutes ago
FD – Trump may not go to prison but his empire will collapse after he’s kicked out of the WH, whether through impeachment or losing in 2020.
AdLib 18 minutes ago
FD–yeah, I can’t imagine what color trump actually is under all that pancake!
glenn
18 minutes ago
glenn, from the sound of things, Trump might actually enjoy wearing pink undies!
pinkpantheroz
17 minutes ago
Ouch! I half expected that! It was actually a compliment! guys often refer to courage as “having balls.” I’m not all that politically correct!
Fuzzy Dunlop
17 minutes ago
Ad, RICO could make the whole family paupers. Please!
pinkpantheroz
17 minutes ago
PPO – Nope, the vote is not final and the shutdown wouldn’t officially begin for an hour, midnight EST.
AdLib 16 minutes ago
glenn – Pink prison uniform? Heh!
AdLib 16 minutes ago
FD–I know you meant it as a compliment, and I’m not trying to make you politically correct. I’m trying to show you that the “default” for courage isn’t masculine; both genders can have brains, no balls needed.
glenn
15 minutes ago
Well, gotta fly, usual Sat shopping to do. Take care and stay away from that flu! Chers to all
pinkpantheroz
15 minutes ago
PPO – Trump’s so fit, nothing else fits.
AdLib 15 minutes ago
Cheerio to you, too PPO.
glenn
15 minutes ago
Yes glenn, I thought that went without saying.
Fuzzy Dunlop
14 minutes ago
pinkpantheroz
14 minutes ago
PPO – Oh yeah, I think RICO could be applied to the Trumps, they are all crooks and have evidence against them all, working together.
AdLib 14 minutes ago
Seeya PPO!
AdLib 14 minutes ago
Schumer is back in the room. What’s happening? Hosts on MSNBC thinks they may be working on a Plan B for tomorrow.
AdLib 12 minutes ago
Well folks, it seems my next door neighbor has a question for me. Take care peeps!
Fuzzy Dunlop
12 minutes ago
McConnell and Schumer that is.
AdLib 12 minutes ago
Seeya FD!
AdLib 12 minutes ago
FD–I’m not explaining myself very well; and maybe you can say I’m trying to be politically correct, but what I’m trying to say, is that the “shortcuts” we use to express things sometimes need to be “updated”, or at least “refined” so that the ideal isn’t always masculine. As in, being courageous means you have balls.
glenn
12 minutes ago
‘Nite FD, nice chatting with you again.
glenn
11 minutes ago
glenn – You make that point well.
AdLib 11 minutes ago
The drama in The Senate continues…
AdLib 10 minutes ago
Thanks, Ad.
glenn
10 minutes ago
Well deserved, you’re very diplomatic.
AdLib 9 minutes ago
So, are they going to have another vote at 11:59?
glenn
9 minutes ago
Heh! A Dem Senator is being interviewed, said the conference between Schumer and McConnell was just to affirm this bill is dead and what will be needed for Dems to join them. They may vote to continue government funding for a day or two to work things out.
AdLib 7 minutes ago
Ad–Will be interesting to see what happens. If the Senate votes down the House bill, then they have to start all over again,right?
glenn
7 minutes ago
This will be a big win for Dems in any case and a big loss for McConnell and Trump. Though knowing Trump, he will crow about what a great dealmaker he is.
AdLib 6 minutes ago
I was typing my question while you were typing your response.
glenn
6 minutes ago
Yeah, what deal did trump make? To shut down the government?
glenn
6 minutes ago
Exactly!
AdLib 6 minutes ago
Okay, Ad, my turn to say Goodnight. Take care, have a good weekend, and see you next week, I hope!
glenn
5 minutes ago
In reality, Trump actually caused all of the problems. The solutions will only come from Repubs working with Dems.
AdLib 5 minutes ago
Night glenn!
AdLib 5 minutes ago
Have a great weekend!
AdLib 5 minutes ago
Seeya next week!
AdLib 4 minutes ago
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