Vox Populi – 7-28-2017

Vox Populi, our live weekly chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7pm PDT. Hope to see you then!

AdLib 12 hours ago

Hey Beatlex!

AdLib 2 hours ago

How’s everything with you?

AdLib 2 hours ago

I think it’s just the first big catharsis with many more on the way. Trump is devouring himself with each day and by next year, the indictments from Mueller will finishe the job.

AdLib 2 hours ago

I remember despising Reagan and Bush/Cheney though. The problem is that they keep bottoming (as opposed to topping) themselves. Mueller is doing it, building the case solidly while Trump keeps up his madness.

AdLib 2 hours ago

Oh yeah, he is mentally ill, big time. But the GOP would rather let the US burn down if it means they can get re-elected and keep their hands on power.

AdLib 2 hours ago

It seems like a critical mass has been happening. McCain standing up and helping kill repeal, Don Jr.’s, Manafort’s and Kushner’s admission of collusion with Russia, the attacks on the Feds including Sessions and Mueller, it’s all swirling around Trump to bring him down.

AdLib 2 hours ago

Now we can look back and see that but at the time, with Reagan betraying the country and selling arms to our enemy Iran, Bush creating ISIS through a phony war based on lies about WMDs, it sure seemed really bad at the time and it was…little did we know how much worse it could get!

AdLib 2 hours ago

I do wonder, when Trump is either impeached or loses in 2020, whether he might refuse to go and call in the military to protect him from leaving.

AdLib 2 hours ago

The military should refuse but there are some real RW wackos in the military. Like Mike Flynn.

AdLib 2 hours ago

I’m really hoping that we get lucky and no massive crisis comes up while Trump is in the WH!

AdLib 2 hours ago

Hey CL!

AdLib 2 hours ago

There ain’t no replacement for Vox!

AdLib 2 hours ago

Should we recount our favorite Priebus memories?

AdLib 2 hours ago

Hey PPO!

AdLib 2 hours ago

Beatlex – He was The Incredible Cringing Man.

AdLib 2 hours ago

PPO – I don’t know, the death of the repeal bill has me more optimistic about crushing Trump.

AdLib 2 hours ago

Beatlex – The Whimper Man?

AdLib 2 hours ago

PPO – We could have a music thread just on Trump-related whining and crying…and cursing.

AdLib 2 hours ago

CL – That’s a great point. Trump only knows how to operate out of vindictiveness, his attacks on McCain and Murkowski don’t seem to have helped. Or Mueller or Sessions. He’s turning everyone against him while trying to use his office to overpower them into doing his will.

AdLib 2 hours ago

PPO – Yep, that will be part oof the GOP platform in 2020, “Pro-Police-Brutality!”

AdLib 2 hours ago

Beatlex – Yes, watching Trump is like watching a dumb animal that can’t help but lead himself to slaughter.

AdLib 2 hours ago

CL – I do think Trump is obviously mentally ill. That’s okay with Repubs, as long as he can sign bills.

AdLib 2 hours ago

CL – Trump’s attacks on Sessions and Mueller have already been turning Repubs against him, not to mention his secret Putin makeout sessions. Consider that nearly all Dems and Repubs in Congress have passed sanction bills that take say, “We don’t trust you so you can’t remove Russian sanctions unless we say so.” The dam is breaking already and he hasn’t been in more than 6 months yet!

AdLib 2 hours ago

CL – Are you serious about Moocher’s wife?

AdLib 2 hours ago

CL – But a Judas Goat leads other animals too slaughter, not itself!

AdLib 2 hours ago

CL – The failure last night also would seem to breed more failure on the budget and tax cuts, which Trump badly wants as do many Repubs. They sure seem to be painting themselves in The Loser’s Corner.

AdLib 2 hours ago

CL – I have a feeling that indictments from Mueller will be covering everyone of note in the Trump Admin, like a heavy snow!

AdLib 2 hours ago

Beatlex – As I mentioned, I wonder if Trump might just refuse to leave the WH if impeached or when he loses in 2020 in a “rigged” election.

AdLib 2 hours ago

CL – The big difference between today and Watergate days is that the Repubs have no ethics anymore. They know he is out oof controol and corrupt but they’re fine with that if they can pass their repeals and tax cuts.

AdLib 2 hours ago

CL – The Trump Judas Goat keeps saying, “Trust me!” as he walks right into the meat grinder.

AdLib an hour ago

Beatlex – I think Mueller’s going to find all kinds of illegal money laundering and Russian money tied up with all of the Trumps. That’s why he’s so terrified of the investigation and having his tax returns seen.

AdLib an hour ago

CL – And Moocher isn’t even officially employed until or inless he sells his business. So he’s doing all of this as someone not even employed by the WH!

AdLib an hour ago

CL – Joint Chiefs aren’t crazy but I wonder how many other Mike Flynns there are out there who would support a Trump military coup. It could never succeed but still…

AdLib an hour ago

CL – And Repubs didn’t control Congress during Watergate.

AdLib an hour ago

Beatlex – Can’t see Trump quitting unless he’s being impeached. His ego wouldn’t let him.

AdLib an hour ago

CL – The test will be if Repubs work with Dems on fixing the ACA. I’m skeptical about Repubs having a spine but we’ll see.

AdLib an hour ago

PPO – I think Trump was left last night with something in hand, not sure it was a pen. MOOOCHED!

AdLib an hour ago

PPO – Trump doesn’t need to sign the sanctions, their numbers will override his veto or inaction. They’re a done deal and Trump’s dream of getting to 2nd base with Putin goes up in smoke.

AdLib an hour ago

McConnell has been exposed like The Great Oz, noothing to see here, just a fraud and a failure behind a curtain.

AdLib an hour ago

CL – Bingo! I’ve seen documentaries about the religious extremists in the military. It’s a legit concern.

AdLib an hour ago

CL – Like all bullies, they think they can get away with anything until someone punches them in the nose then they collapse in tears. And that fist will be Mueller.

AdLib an hour ago

CL – If the SCOTUS ends up oopposing that gerymandering in the case before them, that could change Repubs behavior very quickly.

AdLib an hour ago

CL – I don’t think Trump is capable of functioning with a woman anymore so I doubt the affair rumor.

AdLib an hour ago

CL – Nope, the sanctions bill specifically says he can’t lift them on his own, Congress has to approve.

AdLib an hour ago

CL – Hopefully there aren’t many Mike Flynns out there. I can imagine Trump declaring the 2020 election a fraud and ordering the military to protect him from being removed from office. As long as military leaders are rational, he’ll be out of luck…and maybe arrested.

AdLib an hour ago

Priebus is the nerd at school that is polite to the bully after being thrown in the dumpster.

AdLib an hour ago

PPO – GM?

AdLib an hour ago

CL – True but if he violates the sanctions law and flouts Congress…THEN the Repubs will be more likely to impeach him to protect themselves (the only motivation they operate on).

AdLib an hour ago

That’s scary, CL but if it’s a landslide against Trump/Repubs, there’s only so many Diebolds that can be messed with.

AdLib an hour ago

CL – Heh!

AdLib an hour ago

PPO – I think the lawsuits will fly immediately if SCOTUS rules against gerrymandering and judges will have no choice but to enforce it. Then Repubs lose their automatic wins in districts and if they have to represent a real mix of vooters, this whole extremist thing won’t work anymore.

AdLib an hour ago

CL – What’s very interesting as one pundit mentioned…where were all the Trump supporters rallying for the passage of the repeal? Nowhere to be seen. They are becoming discouraged and by 2018, I think many will just stay home instead of vote. Meanwhile, did you see all the protesters in DC during the voote? And around the country? We have to keep the enthusiasm up and we will crush the Repubs in 2018 and take back at least one House if not both.

AdLib an hour ago

CL – That’s pretty funny! So Is Trump Thurston Howell or maybe Gilligan?

AdLib an hour ago

Whoops, where’s PPO go?

AdLib an hour ago

CL – How long do you think it will take Mueller too come out with his indictments?

AdLib an hour ago

There you are, PPO!

AdLib an hour ago

The wind, like Trump, blows.

AdLib an hour ago

Very cool, CL! I’ll remember the top of her head!

AdLib an hour ago

CL – That must have been a fun surprise when you found out!

AdLib an hour ago

So CL, how long do you think it will take for Mueller to come out with indictments against the Trump mafia?

AdLib an hour ago

PPO – And I thought the iceberg was only as big as Delaware!

AdLib an hour ago

PPO – He really has to get it right. If Trump and his cronies were to escape justice, our demoocracy would be devastated.

AdLib an hour ago

CL – My only concern is that the longer it takes, the greater chance Trump will try to find a way to bury it and fire Mueller.

AdLib an hour ago

Thanks Beatlex though the entire woorld is a more dangerous place with Trump in the WH (I have and will never call him the “p” word). It is inspiring an activism we may now see as normal that wasn’t around so much before Trump. The people are in the streets and activated.

AdLib an hour ago

CL – Once Dems can get back at least one House of Congress, I’ll be less concerned about Trump trying to strongarm the investigation. If Dems take The Hoouse, Trump tax returns will be the first order of business…then impeachment.

AdLib an hour ago

Beatlex – Yes, the real breaking point for Trump coould be during the 2018 election, as Dems run against him and he has nothing to show he’s accomplished. None of his big promises will come true and that will turn off his supporters. They’ll still support him but they won’t be rushing out to vote.

AdLib an hour ago

CL – It’s weird but it’s hard to remember now how the public wasn’t activist before Trump, way too passive. Hence, Trump’s win.

AdLib 43 minutes ago

Beatlex – One thing Repubs don’t like is a loser. If Trump keeps losing, they will turn their backs oon him.

AdLib 42 minutes ago

Beatlex – Oh yeah, Trump’s been a failure nearly all of his life. Without his Dad giving him $100M, he’d have been selling hot dogs in Times Square today.

AdLib 40 minutes ago

7 Bankruptcies, he even loost money on a casino where people willingly give you their money!

AdLib 39 minutes ago

Right, the Russian Mafia, Russian oligarchs laundering their money through him, Trump is so dirty, of course he’s scared!

AdLib 38 minutes ago

CL – I wonder if any admin would admit to the public that our voting machines were hacked. In trying to protect the public’s confidence in our elections, I could imagine them hiding the truth.

AdLib 36 minutes ago

CL – That would be a massive revelation! No wonder Trump is intent on destroying the concept of truth, he knows what the truth is.

AdLib 35 minutes ago

Beatlex – It’s a personality cult of authoritarians. No different than Jim Jones, they just haven’t finished drinking the Kool Aid yet.

AdLib 33 minutes ago

CL – Exactly, a crook instinctively tries too hide where the things are he stole.

AdLib 32 minutes ago

CL – They actually have to Google “truth”, Repubs don’t know the definition.

AdLib 31 minutes ago

Trump will be caught bronze-handed.

AdLib 31 minutes ago

CL – Yep, we had a bit of a lull in activism. I’ve said before, it’s unfortunate but Americans generally aren’t activist until they’re really suffering or on the verge of it. Wish we could be longer term thinkers when things are going smoothly.

AdLib 29 minutes ago

CL – So Trump leaves his tanning assistant empty-bronze-handed?

AdLib 28 minutes ago

Beatlex – It is too common in democracies, people get passive when threats wane. We should always remember, the bad guys never give up, they’re always working to come back and take away the gains the majority make.

AdLib 27 minutes ago

CL – Jinx! Actually, you said it far better than I did!

AdLib 27 minutes ago

Beatlex – And it seems so damn obvious! Never underestimate the gullibility of those who desperately want life to be different.

AdLib 26 minutes ago

CL – We should combine our comments and publish it as an NY Times editorial!

AdLib 25 minutes ago

Beatlex – There’s a reason why Trump loves the uneducated.

AdLib 24 minutes ago

I can’t wait for the anti-Trump commercials in 2020 of him making all his phony promises interspersed with his betrayals and failures.

AdLib 23 minutes ago

CL – When you see what Moocher says in interviews and hoow ignorant Trump is, civics would seem like a must for kids at this point!

AdLib 22 minutes ago

Beatlex – I was a bit pissed about the moronic cable news spending most f yesterday chasing the shiny ball of Moocher cursing while healthcare for 15 million Americans was at stake.

AdLib 21 minutes ago

CL – Pence has been lying a lot, claiming he didn’t know about Flynn’s Russia connection, I think Pence goes down with the rest of the Trump scum.

AdLib 20 minutes ago

CL – Trump is stuck on reality show performer. Mooch is just a casting choice to distract and boost ratings. And he’s great for Trump’s ego, as a Mini-Me.

AdLib 19 minutes ago

CL – Yes, Stein looked really suspicious, as a potential part of the Putin plan. Innocent people shouldn’t be woorried aboout being investigated for suspicious behavior.

AdLib 17 minutes ago

Mooch is like Trump, they think they’re bigger than they are.

AdLib 17 minutes ago

Stein is a liar and a con woman. She was so dishonest in her campaign.

AdLib 16 minutes ago

Beatlex – The only plus about Ryan in the WH is that he’s even more disliked than Trump! And he spearheaded taking away healthcare from oover 25 million Americans. Not a winning platform.

AdLib 15 minutes ago

Ryan is so unlikeable, he doesn’t concern me if he replaced Trump, he wouldn’t win.

AdLib 14 minutes ago

CL – Really? As campaign contributions through a SuperPAC?

AdLib 13 minutes ago

Beatlex – I watched it live with my daughter and when McCain’s name was first called, we strained but heard nothing. Then I saw him striding in and told my daughter to watch and listen, I exploded with a “YES!!!”

AdLib 12 minutes ago

How cool, CL. Have a restful weekend!

AdLib 12 minutes ago

OOh yeah, kittens and pups take a lot oout of ya…but they’re so wonderful!

AdLib 12 minutes ago

Beatlex – Had to turn the tv way up to hear their votes.

AdLib 11 minutes ago

Heh! Cats are such interesting people!

AdLib 11 minutes ago

Night CL, HOPE too see you then…and more!

AdLib 10 minutes ago

The tip off was that he was hanging a lot with Dems and the vote was really delayed. They were trying to turn McCain.

AdLib 8 minutes ago

No kidding. I think it made a difference, his facing his own mortality and he had to think about how others without his money would deal with brain cancer like he has.

AdLib 6 minutes ago

Same here, have a great weekend, Beatlex! Seeya next week!

AdLib 5 minutes ago