Hey all, I’m not at my computer right now so last week’s chat appears above. Other than that, it’s a regular Vox Populi tonight at 7pm! Hope to see you then!
adlib 7 days ago
Hey Ad, PPO, are you there? And do you love America?
glenn
7 days ago
Hey glenn – if AdLib isn’t here, let’s rumble! How are you?
choicelady
7 days ago
Hey glenn, it’s HOT here!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Hi, cl
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Hey CL–I’m ready to rumble–are you?
glenn
7 days ago
Hi PPO – that’s what I hear about ‘Stralia. How hot is it?
choicelady
7 days ago
Hello?
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
Well HI Haruko! It’s been way too long! How are you?
choicelady
7 days ago
97F, sunny low humidity, thank god.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
PPO–“Sorry” to hear about your heat–its 28 degrees here!
glenn
7 days ago
glenn – I’m all in!
choicelady
7 days ago
Hai, how are you?
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
brrrrrr, glenn
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Hi HH–Can I shorten your name?
glenn
7 days ago
Hey there! In transit but good evening all!
adlib 7 days ago
glenn – it’s about the same in Australia but in celsius!
choicelady
7 days ago
Hi, HH, nice to meet you
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Hi AdLib – how are you!
choicelady
7 days ago
It’s OK, Glenn, everyone has trouble with my name.
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
Hi, Ad. DONT text and drive!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
HH-Thanks, nice to meet you.
glenn
7 days ago
Doing well but worked later than expected.
adlib 7 days ago
Haruko – it’s not trouble with your name but we all shorten everything. Fast pace and all.
choicelady
7 days ago
Nice to meet you. Pink Panther, I was born in NZ.
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
PPO and AdLib – totally agree: don’t text and drive!
choicelady
7 days ago
Ah, well, HH we all have our crosses to bear! 
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
HH–When did you leave NZ?
glenn
7 days ago
When I was 16.
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
HH – where are you now? Your icon says ‘gillette’ which I know naught about.
choicelady
7 days ago
I’m typing while driving on an alpine road while trying to eat ribs.
adlib 7 days ago
HH-Any plans to go back?
glenn
7 days ago
That’s just where my ISP is based, I’m in northern Montana
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
AdLib – oh is THAT all the multitasking you’re doing…feh.
choicelady
7 days ago
Ad–As long as you’re not drinking….
glenn
7 days ago
How is it in MT, HH?
choicelady
7 days ago
I’ve been away so long, I dunno … we keep talk about moving to Canada.
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
HH – I’d do that in a flash if I could.
choicelady
7 days ago
Here, snowy, rainy, sleety today.
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
HH – I lived in Sydney, NS for a time. Liked it a lot.
choicelady
7 days ago
hey Murph!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
MURPH!!!
choicelady
7 days ago
Oh, I loved in a town called Kamloops for a year, in B.C.
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
Hey Murph–tell us how you love America, please.
glenn
7 days ago
HH – I love BC but haven’t yet been to Kamloops.
choicelady
7 days ago
glenn – how do YOU love America? Since you brought it up and all…
choicelady
7 days ago
I forgot, I’m also drinking from two straws coming from my beer hat.
adlib 7 days ago
HH–Sounds like you’ve moved around a bit–and to some interesting places.
glenn
7 days ago
Kamloops is shockingly hot for Canada; it hit 40 C a few times in the summer.
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
AdLib – you might be pushing the edges of…going over the edges.
choicelady
7 days ago
ad, with a broom up your backside to sweep the snow!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
CL–I’m just sorry you can’t see the size of my flag pin so you can tell how much I love America!
glenn
7 days ago
HH – I never would believe that – how amazing that is! 40?????
choicelady
7 days ago
glenn – damned well better have rinestones, baby.
choicelady
7 days ago
I’m a vagrant, lived in NZ, San Francisco, the San Juan Islands, BC, Oregon and now Montana.
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
Before I enter this site I want to know if you all love America the way I do and that everyone here understands that 9/11 is the New 7/4.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
HH – Where in the San Juans? Have friends on Lummi.
choicelady
7 days ago
San Juan Island itself.
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
Murph – that makes it clear. You’re an Amurcan.
choicelady
7 days ago
HH – Lovely!
choicelady
7 days ago
CL–Oh, c’mon–no rhinestones–mine has rubies-you know red and all! Plus they’re my birthstone!
glenn
7 days ago
glenn – wow. That PROVES you’re cool!
choicelady
7 days ago
Bill O’Reilly tonight: How DARE you label me a liar! Have at you!
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
HH- have we met? Well, howdy from country missouri.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Hai, Murph, I remember you from HP.
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
Murph – you might not know HH, but she’s a longtime friend from some years ago.
choicelady
7 days ago
HH- really….well welcome to the Planet…..
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph–sitting low in my seat tonight–what is 7/4?
glenn
7 days ago
HH – BillO got caught-O. Oh!
choicelady
7 days ago
I drift around from site to site
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
glenn (passt – July 4th…)
choicelady
7 days ago
HH – you speak around? You hussy!
choicelady
7 days ago
Glenn. I am sorry but this means that your citzenship is in question. 9 is September. 11 the day in. 7 is July. 4 the day in. Stand up and salute the flag.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
CL–see I told you I was sitting low in my seat and everything was going over my head–thanks! But I do have a great flag pin!
glenn
7 days ago
CL LOL!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
glenn – saved by the rubies!
choicelady
7 days ago
Glenn….choice vouches for you…good enough.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
PPO
choicelady
7 days ago
Choice – thanks for the reminder about HH
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph – wow. You sure do fool easy…
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph–thanks–I’m so grateful to have CL as a “voucher”.
glenn
7 days ago
glenn – a ‘voucher’!!! Makes me sound as if I will have my ticket punched! NOT my desire!
choicelady
7 days ago
CL–shhh–let Murph have his foolishness.
glenn
7 days ago
glenn – LOL!
choicelady
7 days ago
Just don’t punch my voucher.
adlib 7 days ago
Glenn and CL are you humoring me?
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
AdLib – we promise. We need you!
choicelady
7 days ago
Ad–if you’re still a moving target, pretty hard to punch your voucher.
glenn
7 days ago
Murph – of COURSE we’re humoring you!
choicelady
7 days ago
Hey, there are some semantics going on here. We call it 9/11, never The Eleventh of July. so why tdo we call it the Fourth of July and not, 7/4???? We need this conspiracy outed!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Sorry, September!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Can you vouch for that?
adlib 7 days ago
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
PPO – you make an excellent point that should be posted on some RW conspiracy nutjob site.
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph–naw–we just love you and are “funnin” with you. You’re okay with that, aren’t you?
glenn
7 days ago
Just left you guys a cartoon.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph – we had that cartoon in our paper today. GREAT.
choicelady
7 days ago
So how about Christie tanking and Jebby blowing his foreign policy speech? They all look like children compared to Obama.
adlib 7 days ago
AdLib – I’m so proud of the GOP. They always live down to my hopes and dreams.
choicelady
7 days ago
Ad, the Keystone Kops are running the GOP, with the 4 stooges up front.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Murph–great cartoon!
glenn
7 days ago
Coffe break back in a min
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
PPO – see you!
choicelady
7 days ago
Ad–they ARE children compared to PBO.
glenn
7 days ago
Christie’s first office was as a county commissioner in NJ, called a freeholder. At the end of his first term it was the other GOP on the council with him that got together and backed his opponent. They said he was indolent, mean, and obnoxious. He lost the election and the hope was he was done.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Anyone – did you hear the report that MSNBC is doing away with all ‘left news’ save Rachel?
choicelady
7 days ago
Yes, I saw that story, Choicelady
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
Ad–you know what I find absolutely infuriating? That christie could even be considered as a presidential candidate. Can you imagine him telling a foreign leader to “sit down and shut up?” I know I’m an “old fart”, but why is bullying considered leadership in the gop mind?
glenn
7 days ago
Murph – YIKES I’d not known that about Christie.
choicelady
7 days ago
HH – pretty scary.
choicelady
7 days ago
Ad…Jeb can look forward to having the advice of a fine group of extraordinary foreign policy experts with broad experinece…doncha know.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Rightwingers love bullies though. They see it as an attribute. As “strength.”
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
glenn – you’re NOT an old fart but someone steeped in the importance of respect and dignity in government.
choicelady
7 days ago
Choice….tell me more about the MSNBC story
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
HH – That has replaced intelligence as the key issue. Christie still has supporters. Ugh.
choicelady
7 days ago
CL – I heard that they were finally getting rid of Ronin and Joy Reid. Can’t blame them, Ronin especially was awful.
adlib 7 days ago
Murph – Story going around that all the liberal reporters – even though their ratings are excellent – are going to be canned.
choicelady
7 days ago
CL–Thanks.
glenn
7 days ago
AdLib – apparently it’s NOT just those two.
choicelady
7 days ago
Ronan Farrow and Joy Reid were canceled. Awful ratings. Chris Hayes also in trouble. I know that.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph – I dislike Hayes, but apparently Lawrence is in jeopardy, too, and Rev. Al and who knows who else?
choicelady
7 days ago
CL – I did hear they were axing Chris Hayes too. I like him
adlib 7 days ago
Choice or HH or whoever I would like to see the story…I think O’Donnell is ok, AL should be gone.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
It’s like watching Current TV disintigrate. I was briefly a big fan of that network, but it unraveled quickly. Sigh.
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
Ronan is awful – no one should host a show before he’s old enough to shave and his voice changes. Seriously – he’s a kid.
choicelady
7 days ago
MSNBC repeats the same tune and bangs the same drum all day…..no variety.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph – I like Rev. Al. Not so hot about Chris who’s gone Emo way too often.
choicelady
7 days ago
Here you go.
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/02/20/report-msnbc-ditch-liberal-hosts-move-left-wing-tv.html
Report: MSNBC To Ditch Liberal Hosts And Move Away From “Left-Wing” TV
The cancellations of Ronan Farrow and Joy Reid were just the beginning of the changes at MSNBC. It is being reported that the network is going to get rid of their liberal hosts and move away from “left-wing TV.”
Report: MSNBC To Ditch Liberal Hosts And Move Away From “Left-Wing” TVThe cancellations of Ronan Farrow and Joy Reid were just the beginning of the changes at MSNBC. It is being reported that the network is going to get rid of their liberal hosts and move away from “left-wing TV.”
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
HH – I saw it on Politicus, yes. Twitter, too.
choicelady
7 days ago
I CANNOT STAND ED! He is ignorant and is the main reason we have the GOP. He kept screeching in 2010 –
choicelady
7 days ago
HH – Yep, but MSNBC was always just exploiting Progs, they’re a conservative corporation like the rest.
adlib 7 days ago
In 2010 Ed was the one saying “Send the Dems a message. Don’t vote!” So progs did not. And there you are.
choicelady
7 days ago
Choice. Sharpton is fake and an opportunist.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
AdLib – I still get good stuff from some of them. Where, oh where is Edward R. Murrow today though?
choicelady
7 days ago
I’m of two minds regarding MSNBC. On one hand, sorry to lose liberal voices. On the other hand, I’d like to see them go to a straight news format. You know, maybe in-depth reporting, like what’s in the bills Congress is considering; facts and figures, stuff like that. No analysis; just reporting.
glenn
7 days ago
HH..read that article thanks….hmmmm
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph – I think he’s grown a lot and no longer see him that way. Did once. Not now.
choicelady
7 days ago
Wow, now nobody will have a reason to watch MSNBC except when Rachel’s on. Brilliant move!
adlib 7 days ago
CL….I have experienced him here in Ferguson….no real change.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
glenn – IF they do that, give us good reporting, OK. I don’t trust them since they’re expanding Scarborough’s time.
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph – too bad. On air though I think he’s been good.
choicelady
7 days ago
Can’t stand morning Jag, I mean Joe.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
IN depth reporting…check out Al Jazeera
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Morning Jerk?
adlib 7 days ago
AdLib – when their ratings tank if they have conservatives, I won’t cry.
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph – that’s my ‘go to’ source now. We finally got it, and it’s very good.
choicelady
7 days ago
AJA is great … don’t like their Website. All the commenting is “premoderated.” Like some other website I shouldn’t name…
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
The thing is that MSNBC’s ratings are best in Prez years….
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
MSNBC night shows outpoll FOX though. Some people are going back to CNN. Is it getting any better? Three hundred days of the Malaysian plane got a bit much…
choicelady
7 days ago
RW viewers won’t come over from Fox. Shallow indies won’t come over from CNN and Progs will head elsewhere. Genius.
adlib 7 days ago
Compare MSNBC and Fox….very close in style, structure, format….each show repeating….but the right is much more passive and the droning reassures. For liberals, thinking liberals, it is a bore.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph–do you think MSNBC’s ratings would be so great in Prez years if the Prez was an “r”? Just curious. And, I can’t stand Morning Joe!
glenn
7 days ago
AdLib – that was my take on their decision, yes.
choicelady
7 days ago
glenn – lucky for me, Joe is on way before I’m ready to watch TV.
choicelady
7 days ago
Glenn…they hit theirhigh water market in 2008-2009 and in 2012
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Well, viewership of Al Jazeera should grow.
adlib 7 days ago
CL–I don’t watch it, either. Watched it a few times in the very beginning and could NOT stand the way Mika let herself be treated. She’s like the blonde bimbos on that other channel.
glenn
7 days ago
I’m so sorry Jon Stewart is going. Who can replace him? Loved Oliver’s scathing item on the tobacco lobby
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
glenn – she’s old enough to have a say over her work. She doesn’t have to earn her money, just show up.
choicelady
7 days ago
CL – Joe is on well before anyone should be watching tv.
adlib 7 days ago
PPO – I’m wondering if Jon’s departure meant the idiots at MSNBC though there was no competition anymore.
choicelady
7 days ago
AdLib – too true!
choicelady
7 days ago
The MSNBC source said, “Going left was a brilliant strategy while it lasted and made hundreds of millions of dollars for Comcast, but now it doesn’t work anymore…The goal is to move away from left-wing TV.”
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph – echoes of Arianna!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
PPO Yes.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph – well if they really WERE left wing, maybe, but the shows have all gotten too many GOP talking heads for my taste.
choicelady
7 days ago
PPO – good point!
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph–is that really what they said or your take on it? Again, just curious.
glenn
7 days ago
CL yes…..treat GOP too hard and they don’t come back.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph – that’s tough. We have enough of them, sorry.
choicelady
7 days ago
CL–I agree with you about Mika–she’s old enough and I think, smart enough, to have a say over her work. It’s too bad she chooses not to.
glenn
7 days ago
Glenn..that was a quote at the Daily Beast from a MSNBC insider
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
glenn – that would mean having some concern about your role as a commentator, and she doesn’t.
choicelady
7 days ago
glenn – I read what Murph reported, yes.
choicelady
7 days ago
Mika……the second banana….the two of them…Ken and Barbie in middle age….shades of GAG
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph–wow–that’s an amazing quote! Why do you suppose it’s not working?
glenn
7 days ago
PPO – I think they’ll find someone good to replace Stewart…but Stewart is singular.
adlib 7 days ago
AdLib – remember when we all thought Colbert wouldn’t fly? But in some ways he outpaced Jon.
choicelady
7 days ago
Ad, agree. Huge boots to fill
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Ad and PPO–I think Key and Peele should replace Stewart. Some of their stuff is just awful, but when they do satire, they seem to do it very well. I love their “angry Obama”.
glenn
7 days ago
Hiya Planeteers! I don’t think none of y’all love Amurika! 
sabreen60
7 days ago
Hai, Sabreen
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
Sabreen!!!! We’uns ALL love us our Amurika!!!
choicelady
7 days ago
glenn, don’t get those guy’s show here in OZ.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
PPO – well, you’ve lost nothing!
choicelady
7 days ago
Hey Sabreen–Does your use of the double negative mean that we do love America? Because I was telling CL earlier about my ginormous flag pin with rubies that shows I love America! So there!
glenn
7 days ago
SAB! we lurve ‘Murka, but hate the Gummint!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Yes, I have noticed a big swing in pundits on MSNBC to the far and mid right. It’s already been going on.
adlib 7 days ago
PPO – speak for yourself!
choicelady
7 days ago
AdLib – too true.
choicelady
7 days ago
I find it hard to believe there is no market for a progressive news network.
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
PPO–If you get Jon Stewart, you get Key and Peele. They’re on Comedy Central. I must admit I have never watched a show all the way though, but when they have “angry Obama” on, it’s hilarious.
glenn
7 days ago
HH, there might be again, one day, but no one seemingly, apart from us here, wants anything but lies
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
HH – too many have discovered that a huge chunk of the Left thinks you shouldn’t have to pay for anything and won’t support a liberal station or effort of any kind. Millennial ‘entitlement’. You have Twitter, what more do you need they ask?
choicelady
7 days ago
HH- there is a market but it’s not like the lemming mentality of RWs who all watch Fox.
adlib 7 days ago
HH Studies show that real progressives/liberals tend to seek news from many sources and many forms of media….just as Air America failed to solidify an audience the same has happened to MSNBC because that single source audience is not there.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
True … progressives are a more disparate bunch. Fox viewers are notoriously elderly and get their news from no other sources.
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
So the audience size will always be smaller since it’s more spread out.
adlib 7 days ago
See you are talking about MSNBC. My thinking is that since Comcast (a rightwing corporation) owns MSNBC and NBC this is expected. At least I expected it. I see them getting rid of most of the “liberal” pundits in preparation for 2016. I expect libertarians and Republicans to fill out most of the slots.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Ad, Fox and their ilk are just “Reality TV”, but we all know that Reality TV is as rehearsed as any fiction!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
AdLib – but if all the news sources go after the Fox crowd, they won’t have an audience for long. They’re dying off!
choicelady
7 days ago
Sabreen – that would be my assessment, yes.
choicelady
7 days ago
I believe the average age of the Fox viewer is 67.
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
Good point, Sabreen
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
HH- that gives FOX about another 5 years of life.
choicelady
7 days ago
Ad and Murph–That’s also why no one seems to know what progressives are thinking until we have national elections, when they all “come together”. Local and midterms just don’t seem to count,which is why we have so many republican governors.
glenn
7 days ago
A word about Giuliani…on the morning of 9/11 he had a 29 percent approval rating; the cost of cleaning up NY crime was police thuggery that rooted; the reason the guy was walking the streets that morning looking for a command cener was because the one he wanted and built with lots of money for friends was in the twin towers; and the reason so many firefighters did not get out was because they had crappy walkie talkies which G. would not replace…
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
glenn – that IS why the Right is far stronger. They are more focused on the long view.
choicelady
7 days ago
No offence to any older people here … 
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
Murph – the walkie talkies were a no bid deal with Motorola that Rudy had because Motorola was a huge campaign donor of his. That is criminal and why firefighters turned out at his presidential rallies to BOO him!
choicelady
7 days ago
HH – no offense taken. We’re the flying wedge of liberalism.
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph–I never knew that guilliani’s father was a convicted criminal, either. Gotta “love” the way he bragged about how he was “brought up”–by a convicted criminal, no less! I swear repubs have no sense of irony!
glenn
7 days ago
CL – This really is no surprise. I read about the Comcast CEO. He’s a RWNJ. The powers-that-be (including him) couldn’t see past their nose. They bashed PBO 24/7 and lost most of his supporters. Chris Hayes and Konecki (?) brought in the libertarian pov and they simply adore Snowden. If you read the comments on Twitter, a lot of viewers had been turned off starting with the firing of Keith and then Bashir.
sabreen60
7 days ago
glenn – Repubs have no sense of shame!
choicelady
7 days ago
None taken, HH! It’s us old farts keeping the left energized. Youngsters today can only get news by Tweets and texts!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
CL – I begin my discussion of G with those facts every time….In the most recent rants I have asked folks to focus on the response of the current crop of GOP leaders
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Sabreen – all that is true, and it’s despicable.
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph – I’m appalled there is not one GOP candidate who is not extremist in many ways including Jeb.
choicelady
7 days ago
Bashir…..Olbermann……Maddow…..O’Donnell…..Matthews….them’s who I watched
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
CL–that, too! I just can’t imagine criticizing someone else’s upbringing if I had a convicted criminal for a father! What an idiot!
glenn
7 days ago
Murph – when Jeb said he was his ‘own man’ but brought in all the neo cons I said what will distinguish him is that he will give them new nicknames.
choicelady
7 days ago
CL, with such cretins running, surely, despite the gerrymanders, some hope for a Dem Victory!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
PPO – not clear that there won’t be marked reduction in Red States so that a Dem victory is assured.
choicelady
7 days ago
CL, yes, all his staff worked for Poppy and Dubya!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
BRB
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Murph – And the thing that blows my mind, are the low life comments Morning Joke makes all the time – and his guests. Yet he remains 3 hours 5 days a week. I think that should tell folks something.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Murph – wow. Think of how many new nicknames Jeb will need to invent?
choicelady
7 days ago
CL–I love that Michael Schiavo is making sure people know how much of an extremist Jeb is by continuing to tell his story of how jebbie interfered with his personal life.
glenn
7 days ago
glenn – Michael Schiavo doesnt’ even know that all the people screaming outside his wife’s hospice were rabid anti-abortion zealots. I recognized EVERY ONE OF THEM.
choicelady
7 days ago
CL–That poor guy! He had to go through double hell. First, because of his wife’s illness, and then because of jebbie and all those idiots outside! Talk about government interference!
glenn
7 days ago
CL, Murph – I got so mad. I was watching local NBC news and they played the interview where Jebbby said he was his own man. They never mentioned all of W’s cronies who are working for him. This was a DC station. I can also get Baltimore. But on DC stations you get Republican propaganda.
sabreen60
7 days ago
glenn – that’s the horror of these people. They will use gov’t to control us all, just not corporations.
choicelady
7 days ago
A Word about ACA…as many of you know I have been working as an advocate for ACA for two years. We were hugely busy in the lst days as people literally poured through the doors looking for guidance. So record numbers and now Bloomberg and Reuters show that the cost to Big Business, small stuff, and has greatly improved the workplace, AND the cost of medicare care-bending the curve of increases now seems to be digging in. The SCOTUS challenge is next.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph – I actually think SCOTUS will not rule in favor of the supposed plaintiffs in part because not one of them has standing.
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph–what do you think of the “no standing to bring the case” argument?
glenn
7 days ago
CL….once the court takes a case matters of standing mean very little…..but I think the case will go our way.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
We signed up for the ACA last week!
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
HH good for you.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
HH–Hooray! We old farts don’t have to sign up because we have Medicare. I speak for myself as an old fart, of course!
glenn
7 days ago
HH – good for you on ACA!
choicelady
7 days ago
The Scotus The Court from Most Liberal to Most Conservative based on their votes per the NYT’s Lee Upstein of Washington University School of Law. Kagan 70.4%, Sotomayor 69.9%, Ginsburg 68.9%, Breyer 58.9%, Kennedy 50%, Roberts 44.6%, Scalia 44.6%, Thomas 40.5%, Alito 39.7%
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
$47 a month … better than nothing.
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
CL et al – When you get a chance please read Jim Wright’s latest essay over at Stonekettle Station. It is really worth the read, IMO. Does a real number of Republicans fake love of fetuses and their caring less about life once born.
sabreen60
7 days ago
HH–Wow–that’s a great price!
glenn
7 days ago
Sabreen – will do. I don’t read him often enough!
choicelady
7 days ago
It really is, I know people paying $800 a month.
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
Murph – but when ALL your plaintiffs have been shown to have no skin in the game, the ruling suddenly becomes more dicey. I do agree it will go our way.
choicelady
7 days ago
Oh, I like Stonekettle.
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
glenn 
sabreen60
7 days ago
HH – is that $800 figure on the exchange or in the ‘free market’?
choicelady
7 days ago
My guess is that Kagan + Sotomayor + Ginsburg + Breyer are the for certains. Now- I think that Kennedy joined Alito, Scalia and Thomas in conference to take the case but he did it to kill the challenges once and for all. AND I would not be surprised if Roberts joins them to associte himself with the reform AND have influnce on the majority decision to toss in couple of Conservative twists for his street cred.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
They claim it’s on the exchange, I find that hard to believe because I know on the free market, we were looking at $500 a month.
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
Murph – my assessment precisely!
choicelady
7 days ago
HH…I have not been paying attention…what are you questioning. I might have some ideas.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
HH – I suppose it might be that high if your family income is over 400% of the federal poverty level, but even at that, it’s probably far cheaper than the ‘free’ market.
choicelady
7 days ago
Some people are claiming they are paying $800 a month for insurance through the ACA, but I suppose they didn’t qualify for the tax refunds.
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
I used to pay almost $900 per month for just me!
choicelady
7 days ago
BRB
glenn
7 days ago
HH – that matters, but if they were not on the exchange, they’d pay MORE.
choicelady
7 days ago
True, still it isn’t the real answer. It worked out great for us.
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
HH – word of advice. Direct the subidy to your monthly payment rather than as a tax refund. It’s better that way.
choicelady
7 days ago
My husband was paying about $800 for the both of us. When I turned 65 I dropped from his. I still use his dental and vision, but I have Medicare B & G and a drug plan. Cost me less than what he was paying.
sabreen60
7 days ago
HH – For those of us supporting single payer, it turns out to be, for many reasons, more expensive than ACA. Vermont got the right to make single payer their state plan – was 11 times more expensive for lower income people. It needs work.
choicelady
7 days ago
I think that’s how we did it.
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
Sabreen – yup. That is much better. Good move.
choicelady
7 days ago
More good news. PBO signed EO (I think it’s an EO) to allow all 4th graders and their families free entrance into all federal parks – for a whole year!
sabreen60
7 days ago
Sabreen – that is amazing! Why 4th grade though?
choicelady
7 days ago
CL – I don’t know. I’ll have to go over the WH.gov and see if it says.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Sabreen – maybe that’s the year they do their first US history/social studies? Cool no matter why.
choicelady
7 days ago
Sabreen – you do know that RWNJ parents of FIFTH graders will be screeching!
choicelady
7 days ago
CL – Yep. I was telling my sister who has a granddaughter going to the 4th grade in Sept. I hope they take advantage of this. We have great national parks.
sabreen60
7 days ago
All – speaking of fifth graders, I just finished “Wonder” about a little boy with cranio-facial deformities. It was amazing. Might be seen as mawkish, but it wasn’t. I recommend it.
choicelady
7 days ago
CL – 
sabreen60
7 days ago
Sabreen – frown for….????
choicelady
7 days ago
Complete change of subject, but where is Harleigh tonight? Anyone know?
glenn
7 days ago
glenn – gosh, no I have no idea where he and KT are. Hope everyone is OK what with the ice and snow.
choicelady
7 days ago
And kes! She’s in the middle of it, too!
choicelady
7 days ago
Here’s the article from WH.gov re 4th graders:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2015/02/19/let-s-get-every-kid-park
Let’s Get Every Kid in a Park
From sea to shining sea, our country is home to gorgeous landscapes, vibrant waterways, and historic treasures that all Americans can enjoy.
Let’s Get Every Kid in a ParkFrom sea to shining sea, our country is home to gorgeous landscapes, vibrant waterways, and historic treasures that all Americans can enjoy.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Harleigh is in FL if I recall, and it got very cold there.
choicelady
7 days ago
CL–don’t think Harleigh is dealing with ice and snow ’cause he lives in FL, but KT and Kes may be dealing with it.
glenn
7 days ago
Thanks Sabreen!
choicelady
7 days ago
glenn – I heard it was really awful in FL in parts with record cold. Yes, KT and kes are in Ohio that is blasted.
choicelady
7 days ago
Hey all, was in transit, will BRB!
adlib 7 days ago
CL – That’s the look on the faces of RW parents of 5th graders. I should have explained
sabreen60
7 days ago
AdLib – be careful is all we say!
choicelady
7 days ago
Sabreen – LOL!!!
choicelady
7 days ago
CL–My friends in Key West are freezing with the 50 degree weather there. My sister lives on the west coast south of Tampa and she said the temps were down in the 20’s yesterday morning. My brother lives in the middle, northern part of the state and he’s down in the 20’s tonight too. But 80’s are expected for Sunday, he says.
glenn
7 days ago
I’m still shaking my head at the bill in Oklahoma to get rid of Advanced Placement history classes … and replace it with speeches by Reagan and study of the 10 Commandments. 
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
Where is Silly Little Me? She is in Methuen, MA that is also experiencing all of it.
choicelady
7 days ago
HH – In Jeff Sharlet’s book on the C street people, he has a chapter, “Through the Glass Darkly” about the religious right’s work to do what OK just did. Shocking!
choicelady
7 days ago
I know this cold has got to give. I’m staying home too much. Yesterday I got bored and made a batch of blueberry muffins. At this rate, I may 500 lbs by Spring. 
sabreen60
7 days ago
HH – the book is “The Family” sorry – forgot to say that.
choicelady
7 days ago
HH–apparently, they are “rethinking” that bill. The rwnj who introduced it says he didn’t realize it would get rid of AP history classes. And, of course, these people still get elected! SMH!
glenn
7 days ago
Sabreen – but it will be a happy 500 pounds!
choicelady
7 days ago
Should be may “weigh”
sabreen60
7 days ago
CL – Oh no. No such thing as fat and happy. Not for me. When I gain weight and don’t exercise I have way too many aches and pains.
sabreen60
7 days ago
HH…I am a retired professor of history and was asked by our School Board to weigh in on the AP program….their focus was on the WHAT notthe HOW which is the focus of the AP experience. Critical thinking, analysis of sources, ambiguous outcomes. No wonder the right hates the courses.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Sabreen–I don’t cook, but I spend a lot of time on my computer. I’m addicted to a game called “just words” which is essentially scrabble. I play against the “expert”. Win some, lose some, but it keeps me out of the kitchen. However, it’s the techie version of couch potato.
glenn
7 days ago
My boss and I have taken to talking on conference calls on cell phones then going outside and walking for the duration of the call. It’s very useful as a strategy to get exercise. I just put the phone on mute and walk for 30-60 minutes.
choicelady
7 days ago
HH – I missed that!
sabreen60
7 days ago
Murph – there you go threatening the religious right again. When WILL you stop being a thorn in their sides? I hope NEVER!
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph–you got that right! Ambiguity (sp?), nuance, and especially critical thinking are not strengths of rwnj people!
glenn
7 days ago
All – I should note that most of our conference calls are terminally boring, so walking is a good thing to do to alleviate that.
choicelady
7 days ago
CL not just the religous, but also the social, political, and economic right…..it was a weird meeting….they are setting curriculum for kids who are so much smarter than they are SO they want to dumb them down.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Murph and glenn – what is this ‘critical thinking’ notion?
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph – oh that is horrid!
choicelady
7 days ago
CL – Whatever works. I’ll be back in the gym next week – I hope. My doctor said I could return this week, but then we got the snow and the cold.
sabreen60
7 days ago
CL–I know, we can’t have kids thinking critically. America is exceptional, dontcha know–and bigod that’s all they need to know!
glenn
7 days ago
Sabreen – good for you! I know I’d never go, so I walk, walk, walk.
choicelady
7 days ago
Hi everyone!
funksands
7 days ago
There’s also a bill here in Montana that hasn’t gotten any attention that would require church attendance in order for people to collect food stamps. Sigh, I fear the right-wing extremists are taking over, and they’re doing it through state legislatures.
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
glenn – this started in the 70s. People on school boards figured out they did NOT want a repeat of the 60s with smart working class people and POC, so they dumbed down the curriculum. It worked.
choicelady
7 days ago
Hey Funk–how are you?
glenn
7 days ago
CL – Walking is great. When I’m not spinning, I’m walking on the treadmill.
sabreen60
7 days ago
HH – that is DISGUSTING!!!!!
choicelady
7 days ago
And completely unconstitutional….
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
Trying to type in the middle of my 10-year old’s play date. Not going well. 🙂
funksands
7 days ago
funk!!! Great to see you!
choicelady
7 days ago
Hiya Funk!
sabreen60
7 days ago
HH–please tell me that’s not true. Church attendance? Don’t these people know why this country was founded?
glenn
7 days ago
HH – Remember bush – the Constitution is just ‘a piece of paper’ when it comes to their views!
choicelady
7 days ago
Hi Sabreen, I didn’t get a chance to tell you how thrilled I was that your tests came back negative last week. Way to go!
funksands
7 days ago
glenn – NO. They do NOT.
choicelady
7 days ago
Hi Choice!
funksands
7 days ago
Hey to you, funk.
choicelady
7 days ago
Ok, this is gross but I read some midwestern state want couples tested to make sure they don’t have cooties before they get married. Seriously. I read that.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Sabreen–what kind of cooties?
glenn
7 days ago
Sabreen – we USED to get blood tests before licenses were issued to show we did not have STDs. Maybe not all bad, actually…?
choicelady
7 days ago
Sabreen–or more specifically–what are cooties?
glenn
7 days ago
glenn, I don’t know. I’ll see if I can find the article.
sabreen60
7 days ago
funksands
7 days ago
glenn – cooties are an all-pupose term for icky things such as syphillis.
choicelady
7 days ago
funk! LOL to Haruko!
choicelady
7 days ago
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
Holy cow! I always thought cooties were another word for lice. Kids are dark man..
funksands
7 days ago
funk – lice would be in the ‘cootie’ universe.
choicelady
7 days ago
CL and Sabreen–I agree. In the dark ages, when my husband and I got married, we had to have blood tests before we could get our marriage license. Guess I didn’t know that had changed. Shows how old I really am.
glenn
7 days ago
Big universe
funksands
7 days ago
glenn – I’m that age, too. Same thing. Maybe not all bad? Some poor person gets married and gets sick, not so good.
choicelady
7 days ago
Ok, here’s the article. I think it just says “cooties”.
http://wonkette.com/576761/oklahoma-republicans-want-proof-you-dont-have-sex-cooties-before-you-get-married
Oklahoma Republicans Want Proof You Don’t Have Sex Cooties Before You Get Married
If you live in Oklahoma and would like to get married, great! You can do that, even if you want to do it gay style, because Oklahoma is all open and liberal like that now. …
Oklahoma Republicans Want Proof You Don’t Have Sex Cooties Before You Get MarriedIf you live in Oklahoma and would like to get married, great! You can do that, even if you want to do it gay style, because Oklahoma is all open and liberal like that now. …
sabreen60
7 days ago
Sabreen – Oklahoma Republicans ARE COOTIES.
choicelady
7 days ago
CL–I’m not trying to be a moralist here, but most couples have already slept together before they get married nowadays, so they have probably already given each other the cooties.
glenn
7 days ago
CL – 
sabreen60
7 days ago
glenn – you’re a very modern woman, IMHO.
choicelady
7 days ago
More Liberty™ from Oklahoma
funksands
7 days ago
Funk – That you darling. Now we can go get that dinner or drink or whatever
sabreen60
7 days ago
CL–I try, I try. And, so did I–sleep with my husband before we got married–that is.
glenn
7 days ago
Anyone hear about Rudi’s rant against POTUS. IMO, the poor eejit has totally lost it
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
I’m liking the sound of “whatever”.
funksands
7 days ago
funk – I’m so glad you trademarked the “Liberty”. Did you know that on the bottom of the Ten Commandments sculpture Judge Roy Moore has, there is a copy right TO JUDGE ROY MOORE? I betcha God has something’ to say about that!
choicelady
7 days ago
Funk – Should be “Thank You” – I admit, I’m on my 2nd Patron. 2 is my absolute limit!
sabreen60
7 days ago
He never had much of it to begin with, I think.
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
I always thought the blood tests were to make sure you weren’t brother and sister or first cousins or something
funksands
7 days ago
PPO–which rush rant? There are so many, I can’t remember them all. And speaking of PBO, I loved his response to rudy. “We feel sorry for him.” BOOM!
glenn
7 days ago
PPO we had two mini discussion about Rude Rudy
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Judge Roy Moore views himself as a holy warrior
funksands
7 days ago
Soory, Murph! missed it.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Funk 
sabreen60
7 days ago
funk – nope. It’s cooties. Many states let you marry first cousins. Still have to get the anti-cootie blood test in all cases.
choicelady
7 days ago
funk. Judge Moore would be wrong.
choicelady
7 days ago
Judge Moore = George Wallace of the 21st century
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
Rudy is reduced to Coulter-like trolling to chum up the water and remain media-relevant. All the conservative D-listers do it. Watch for a “leaked” Rudy sex tape soon
funksands
7 days ago
HH – but unfortunately Moore is not alone in his cloning of Wallace.
choicelady
7 days ago
funk – I can’t decide if I want a leaked sex tape or dread it. The idea of anyone screwing with Rudy is pretty nauseating.
choicelady
7 days ago
Funk–eeeewwww! leaked sex tape of rudy. 
glenn
7 days ago
CL – Cooties wasn’t in the test. It was for syphillis and other diseases. I really think cooties are also known as “crabs” YUK!
sabreen60
7 days ago
Cootie Cooliani.
adlib 7 days ago
Notice Victoria Jackson started feeling threatened and released her own “outrageous” comment that no one can believe any sane person would say.
funksands
7 days ago
Sabreen – i don’t think ANYONE actually knows what cooties are. A univeral term for ick.
choicelady
7 days ago
Ad–wow–you nailed it! LOL
glenn
7 days ago
AdLib – oh that is gross!
choicelady
7 days ago
Well Rudy married his cousin, so I guess he isn’t picky
funksands
7 days ago
funk – when Victoria has to one-up the boys, they are all doomed.
choicelady
7 days ago
Funk – And he’s got the perfect skirt and heels to go with cooties.
adlib 7 days ago
funk – it’s legal in NY state.
choicelady
7 days ago
Funk–apparently rudy isn’t picky at all. Isn’t he on his third wife?
glenn
7 days ago
“cooties” started in New Zealand
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
CL – Moore is doing an impression of Wallace…and he’s very good at being very bad.
adlib 7 days ago
AdLib – are you implying that Rudy, among all his other problems, is in the closet?
choicelady
7 days ago
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
HH- I’m not at all sure that being the origin of cooties is something to brag about!!! 
choicelady
7 days ago
“The word is thought to originate from the Austronesian languages, in which the Tagalog, Māori [6] and Malay word kutu refers to a parasitic biting insect,[7] or kudis (pronounced kuːdiːs), meaning scabies. The earliest recorded uses of the term in English are by British soldiers during the First World War to refer to lice.”
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
Murph–All of that blonde hair dye has gone directly to Victoria’s brain.
glenn
7 days ago
HH- I suspect you’re correct, but it’s now pretty universal for all kinds of ugly things you wish you did not have.
choicelady
7 days ago
You’ve never seen Rudy in drag? This is real: 
adlib 7 days ago
HH–interesting history lesson!
glenn
7 days ago
Oh, dear God 
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
AdLib – HOLY SMOKES!
choicelady
7 days ago
Victoria and Rudy are prolonging the dreaded Conservative D-list arms race
funksands
7 days ago
AdLib – like the gloves…
choicelady
7 days ago
Ad–OMG–that’s just gross. Eeeeewwww!
glenn
7 days ago
CL–but where is his/her flag pin?
glenn
7 days ago
It’s real! Google Rudy Giuliani and “in drag” and you’ll see way too many photos of him. Every party opportunity he’d have to do it, he would. I’ve got nothing against anyone who does it, just hypocrites who attack others.
adlib 7 days ago
AdLib – I used to say to my drag queen friends I resented the fact some of them looked better than I did in ball gowns. Rudy would not be one of them.
choicelady
7 days ago
glenn – YES! WHERE IS RUDY’S FLAG PIN????? Probably on his/her corset?
choicelady
7 days ago
Remember Obama was just raised by his WW2 vet grandfather and grandmother, Rudy was raised by his loan-shark employed bat-wielding convicted armed robber dad. You know, a real American
funksands
7 days ago
AdLib – Yup. It’s the hypocrisy, baby. Rudy has a little fetish he’d deny to all others.
choicelady
7 days ago
Lot of cooties in that dress…
funksands
7 days ago
I believe it was at Press Corp dinner when PBO mentioned Rudy in drag. I’ll see if I can find it.
sabreen60
7 days ago
CL–if s/he is wearing a corset then s/he better get a new one, ’cause that one ain’t working!
glenn
7 days ago
funk – but SAYING you’re a ‘real Amurcan’ beats being one to theRW.
choicelady
7 days ago
Funk – But Rudy looks better in sequins.
adlib 7 days ago
glenn – does appear the corset exploded.
choicelady
7 days ago
How much you want to bet Rudy is opposed to gay marriage?
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
HH – Exactly my point, Rudy is a RW values warrior and this makes him such a hypocrite.
adlib 7 days ago
HH – Oh Rudy IS opposed. You know the game – the rules are for OTHERS.
choicelady
7 days ago
Ad–I disagree–rudy does NOT look better in sequins, nor do the ostrich feathers do anything for him!
glenn
7 days ago
AdLib – you remember that great riff on “Murphy Brown” when one of the characters said of J.Edgar at parties, “He looked like hell in black lace, but he sure could rumba!”
choicelady
7 days ago
Agatha Christie wrote a famous novel about Rudy in drag: 
adlib 7 days ago
AdLib – LOL!!
choicelady
7 days ago
Now, Ad, you’ve done it. I’ m going to sign off now, and I’ll probably have nightmares of rudy in drag! Anyway, everyone stay warm and have a good weekend. PPO, keep your cool! G’night all.
glenn
7 days ago
Cheers glenn! Have a great weekend!
adlib 7 days ago
Good night, glenn – please do stay warm there! See you next week I hope!
choicelady
7 days ago
Ad posted earlier…rudy hypocrisy…A word about Giuliani…on the morning of 9/11 he had a 29 percent approval rating; the cost of cleaning up NY crime was police thuggery that rooted; the reason the guy was walking the streets that morning looking for a command cener was because the one he wanted and built with lots of money for friends was in the twin towers; and the reason so many firefighters did not get out was because they had crappy walkie talkies which G. would not replace…
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Nite glenn. Stay warm!
sabreen60
7 days ago
So our little Rudy gets his rocks off in drag but kills hundreds of NY’s finest. Great American that.
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph – So true, Rudy helped cause the crisis in response and may have directly caused the deaths of firefighters when the twin towers collapsed because other emergency workers couldn’t get through to them. He is awful.
adlib 7 days ago
Freaking hypocrite on every level is Rudy.
choicelady
7 days ago
Seriously folks. This kind of crap would go away a lot faster if the media and other folks would just utterly ignore the D-listers. All they want is a reaction. They even prefer a negative one. You think Rudy G was going to be invited on Fox or other news stations this week for other reasons?
funksands
7 days ago
What Dem brings this up about Rudy…
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
AdLib and Murph again – the radios were a no bid contract w Motorola, his largest campaign donor. They knew they did not work inside buildings. Did not care.
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph – it’s not D for Dem but D for fourth tier stupid list.
choicelady
7 days ago
CL – Radios that didn’t work inside buildings! Rudy might as well have pushed those firefighters off the roof.
adlib 7 days ago
Personally I’d put Victoria on the Z list.
choicelady
7 days ago
There’s something to be said about ignoring Ted Nugent and Sarah Palin, but I notice on liberal websites that when they post the insane stuff that they say, they get a million comments, so they keep doing it.
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
AdLib – when he ran for president, firefighters across the nation went to his rallies and booed him! They HATE him for that!
choicelady
7 days ago
Still, how satisfying was it for Rudy to get crushed in the 2008 GOP primary?
adlib 7 days ago
HH- we do have to stop giving the bottom feeding GOP any help at all.
choicelady
7 days ago
HH, that’s it exactly.
funksands
7 days ago
Rudy thought if he chanted “9/11” enough, Beetlejuice would rise up and whisk him into the Oval Office.
adlib 7 days ago
I know … whenever I see a Sarah Palin story at the top of a Website, I feel like “she’s an attention-seeking idiot, what more is there to say about her?”
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
AdLib – if only Beetlejuice had risen up and dragged him to hell…
choicelady
7 days ago
Ad, almost as satisfying as seeing Newt Gingrich and Santorum run Mittens though the wringer
funksands
7 days ago
HH – that would be it, yes. Wise of you!
choicelady
7 days ago
CL – That would’ve been great to have seen, Rudy giving a little excited squeal when Satan poked him in the backside with his trident.
adlib 7 days ago
So this tells you practically everything you could want to know about Rudy: http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/wayne-barrett-rudy-giuliani-love-article-1.2122253
sabreen60
7 days ago
Adlib –
choicelady
7 days ago
Sabreen – that MAY be too much info!!!
choicelady
7 days ago
Who would win in a slap fight between Lindsay Graham and Rudy Giuliani?
adlib 7 days ago
Funk – The WH Press Corp brought up Rudy. They are jackals.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Guys I’m sorry, just not able to sit down much and converse. Gotta go break up the kiddos. Have a great weekend!
funksands
7 days ago
Ok, I have to go to bed, too. G’nite!
haruko haruhara
7 days ago
Seeya Funk, don’t break them up too much, it’s hard putting them back together right.
adlib 7 days ago
Ad…in SC Graham is often referred to as Lady Lindsay so it might be a good match.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Night HH, great seeing you here!
adlib 7 days ago
Nite Funk. Take care!
sabreen60
7 days ago
Nite HH. Hope to see you the next time.
sabreen60
7 days ago
Good night funk! Go do Dad stuff!
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph – Could you imagine Graham and Rudy fighting over a sale item at Macy’s? I wonder if they wear the same size pumps?
adlib 7 days ago
Good night HH – lovely to have you here! Come back soon!
choicelady
7 days ago
AdLib – OMG that’s an ugly thought: rudy and lindsay fighting over stilletos.
choicelady
7 days ago
Or maybe they’re the wedie types?
choicelady
7 days ago
Wedgie I mean…
choicelady
7 days ago
CL – Can you imagine the amount of unrelenting pinching that would go on?
adlib 7 days ago
I’ll say good night, too. Have a great week.
sabreen60
7 days ago
AdLib – who’d win? I give it to Graham on weight.
choicelady
7 days ago
Night Sabreen, you have a great weekend!
adlib 7 days ago
Lindsay has a “fiancee” he trots out for campaigns….the rumors are many, but I think he is actually asexual.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
good night Sabreen! Lovely to see you but stay warm there!
choicelady
7 days ago
Murph – I’d agree. Fiancee my butt.
choicelady
7 days ago
CL…well, someone’s butt.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
CL – But Rudy is wiry and he he can pull Lindsay’s hair but hasn’t any for Lindsay to pull.
adlib 7 days ago
I think I shall say good night as well. Murph – that is TOO funny!
choicelady
7 days ago
Night CL! Have a lovely weekend!
adlib 7 days ago
AdLib- that’s true – each has his/her strengths. I agree that we all really don’t care about that IF THEY WERE NOT denying rights to others!
choicelady
7 days ago
Yeah cheap shot but the jackass deserves it.
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
AdLib – great weekend to you,too
choicelady
7 days ago
Night all!
choicelady
7 days ago
well, the planet is closing so I shall head to my rack, exhausted. Nite to PPO and Ad….
murphthesurf3
7 days ago
Night Murph! Sleep well!
adlib 7 days ago
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