Vox Populi – 9-26-2014

Thank you for the invitation, AdLib. I am busy grading freshman essays, and if I am still up that late, I shall be sure to stop by.

m cubed

Hope to be able till 10 EST!.Looking forward to it.I have not – BTW – seen so much downpur and flooding in Floriduh!Absolutely chaotic.How I wish I could send it to California!

exfanofariana

Happy Friday, Planeteers! I just flew in the door from a potluck dinner and presentation on the need for immigration reform. Good stuff! So how is everyone this Friday evening?

kesmarn

Good evenng, Kes, I’m doing well, how about you?

glenn

What’s the scoop on immigration reform?

glenn

Doing well, glenn.

kesmarn

Well, the consensus at this meeting was that there’s not much hope for anything significant before the elections. So it’s better to focus on smaller and more person-to-person actions.

kesmarn

One woman there did get a pretty good phone call into Boehner’s office in which she told him to “stop making an ass of himself by suing the Prez and focus on immigration reform.”

kesmarn

Gee, kes, I can’t believe that congress will not do anything until after the elections. Considering they won’t even be in session until then, that is. So, what’s each person to do?

glenn

Great phone call, Kes. The boner isn’t going to do anything unless the tp says he can do anything.

glenn

This was a bunch of people from the Mercy system (education and health care) so providing housing to “illegals” (awful term) and charity care at the hospitals was a biggie.

kesmarn

And — right, glenn — the Boner won’t even use t.p. (as in wiping) without written permission from the TP and the Kochs.

kesmarn

Kes I’m not trying to be snarky, but what is the “answer” for treating “illegals”? I mean, haven’t we always had that problem? So, what is the “solution”?

glenn

This group is going to try to keep the heat on to get the Dream Act passed and get these 60,000 Central American kids taken care of.

kesmarn

Kes, and the permission is probably written on the tp he’s supposed to use to wipe.

glenn

Along with directions on how to remove his head from his ass before wiping?

kesmarn

Well, it’s nice to see “private” businesses, such as Mercy, trying to get the Dream Act passed. Perhaps I’m misinformed, but hasn’t the Dream Act already been passed? Do you mean an “update” to the Dream Act to include these new kids?

glenn

Wow… now I’m gonna have to google! But my impression was that the GOP had killed the Dream Act. Lemme check!

kesmarn

Yes, that too. Step one: Do not inhale or speak until head is removed from ass.

glenn

PPO, are you there?

glenn

Looks like the Dream Act only passed the Senate, and the Prez has taken some measures by way of exec action.

kesmarn

Hello everybody. hi glenn. Checking in before I have a cuppa

pinkpantheroz

Kes, I told you I could be misinformed; but I’m pretty sure the EA only applies to kids who immigrated here before a certain date, right?

glenn

Hey, PPO! How’s everything down under?

kesmarn

Hi, kes. Pretty much like the US at the moment. Terrorist teens being shot by police ( in defence, the terrorist was trying to decapitate the cop at the time.)

pinkpantheroz

glenn, I found this site that looks pretty legit:

Has lots of info, but says that so far — no go on getting it officially passed. Too bad.

kesmarn

OMG, PPO! What is it with this decapitation thing? Did you see that some guy in Oklahoma decapitated a co-worker earlier today?

kesmarn

Kes, Thanks so much for taking the time to do that. So, once again the repubs block useful legislation. What a surprise!

glenn

How’s the cop in that situation in Oz?

kesmarn

Hello.

murphthesurf3

Hey Murph, how goes it?

glenn

Right, glenn. If their supporters actually cared — it’s be interesting to see what the GOP is going to claim as their “accomplishments” this election season.

kesmarn

Glenn….ok…nursing a bad tooth.

murphthesurf3

Hey, Murph! How are things in MO?

kesmarn

This weekend is the equivalent of the Superbowl here in Melbourne, with the Grand Final of the Aussie Football League. For those of us who couldn’t give a flying fart, there’s nothing! Radio has football, TV – football, newspapers, One page of news about footballers and then 35 pages of sport all about football!

pinkpantheroz

evening all. what does everyone think about Holder’s resignation?

sillylittleme

Oh… I have to say that sounds like a real yawner, PPO!

kesmarn

Kes–the same thing they’ve been touting as their accomplishiments all along–blocking everything the American people and the President want to do, such as gun laws, immigration reform, infrastructure, etc.

glenn

Hi, SLM!

kesmarn

Kes…Ferguson remains a symbol of everything wrong here….and an expereince of all that is wrong.

murphthesurf3

SLM, I think Holder is just “plum tuckered out”! Exhausted!

kesmarn

Murph, don’t you think the Ferguson mayor’s apology was too little too late, as well?

kesmarn

Kes…are you the ringmaster tonight.

murphthesurf3

SLM–Mixed feelings about Holder’s resignation. I do, however, love that PBO has told the repubs/tp that Holder won’t resign until his successor has been approved. Speaking of which, any news on who the successor might be?

glenn

I am indeed, Murph. AdLib had some family commitments.

kesmarn

kes – no question, but who will the Rs allow the President to hire?

sillylittleme

Kes, he actually attacked 2 cops outside a police station. The one slashed across the throat is improving and out of the ICU and the other stabbed is also getting better. This was an 18-year old afghani teen who comes from a good family and showed no previous leanings toward fundamentalism. Scary.

pinkpantheroz

glenn – heard Deval Patrick’s name out there, he’s said no thanks publically.

sillylittleme

publicly

sillylittleme

Kes…the mayor and the chief of police- sounded so fake, so phoney and it was not well received. Then the chief tried to march with the folks in Ferguson. Clueless.

murphthesurf3

SLM, as glenn is saying, the hilarious thing is that the Prez plans to keep Holder in place until a successor is approved. GReat move!

kesmarn

kes – what choice does he have, Holder waited over a year for a second in command.

sillylittleme

Murph, I think they hired an incompetent PR team and they’re following some silly directions from them.

kesmarn

Kes…likely

murphthesurf3

PPO- what is the item you were explaining about the Afghan teen?

murphthesurf3

SLM, all this hold-ups on nominees are absurd aren’t they?

kesmarn

“these” — not “this” sheesh!

kesmarn

kes – well that’s one way to make government seem incompetent

sillylittleme

Murph–saw on Rachel Maddow tonight that the Ferguson PD has not even filed an “incident report” on the Brown shooting. It may not be called an incident report, but by the PD’s rules, a report has to be filed when an officer shoots his weapon, yet no report has ever been filed in this case. So sad, to see the systemic incompetence, or is it just a dereliction of duty? I guess no one can criticize a report that was never written.

glenn

Right. Another way to say “gummint bad.” “Private sector (unregulated) good”!

kesmarn

Hi, Murph. a story here in Melbourne about a teen who was shot by police after he stabbed and tried to decapitate 2 cops

pinkpantheroz

PPO Oh!

murphthesurf3

what is it with people wanting to cut off people’s heads?

sillylittleme

PPO, it’s a relief to hear that both cops are still living. This woman in Oklahoma wasn’t so fortunate.

kesmarn

Glenn…and I think there is still a good chance that the cop gets away with it.

murphthesurf3

murph – likely, but his life will be crap from here on out

sillylittleme

Seems like everyone is trying to outcreep us by the grisliness of their murders.

pinkpantheroz

SLM I hope so IF it is as I think it was.

murphthesurf3

Do you think the Ferguson area will erupt if the cop gets off, Murph?

kesmarn

Kes- I do.

murphthesurf3

That’s my feeling too. This isn’t going to be easily forgotten,

kesmarn

BRB Coffee time!

pinkpantheroz

See you soon, PPO!

kesmarn

Murph–I agree. This particular cop may get away with it in Ferguson. The cop who shot the man reaching for his license has been charged with aggravated assault, so the cops aren’t getting away with it everywhere. I do think Ferguson is definitely a microcosm of how NOT to handle a police shooting.

glenn

ppo – why kill someone else when you can just kill yourself and not inflict harm on others.

sillylittleme

PPO stepped out for a coffee, SLM.

kesmarn

Glenn- the prosecutor wants to get reelected…so he packed the process to favor the cop

murphthesurf3

In so many of these cases, it’s only the video that keeps things from being totally swept under the rug, no?

kesmarn

kes – I’m slow at typing…

sillylittleme

Me too! (Besides being the Typo Queen!)

kesmarn

kes –

sillylittleme

Murph–I know one of the problems in Ferguson is low voter turnout in the African American community. Do you think that the voter registration drive that was taking place during the protests will have any effect on that election?

glenn

Some of them are really embarrassing (the typos). They look like Teabagger signs.

kesmarn

kes – they can’t be that bad…

sillylittleme

Kes–nothing you type could be as bad as tbagger signs!

glenn

glenn – if that doesn’t get them out to vote, nothing will…

sillylittleme

I did see one on a video tonight that read “English is our national Lanaguage.”

kesmarn

Glenn..it is all about anger there…

murphthesurf3

Kes–well isn’t it?

glenn

kes – oy vey

sillylittleme

Only if you’re Lawrence Welk, glenn…

kesmarn

Murph–I’m sure you don’t have a crystal ball, but do you think that anger will transfer itself into votes?

glenn

glenn..no….political impotency.

murphthesurf3

Kes–and a one and a two and a….

glenn

Ad…I do not think you were right by bashing Searing T. We can hopefully bring him back.That’s what makes us better.

exfanofariana

Murph–what a shame!

glenn

And a lanaguage-ah…

kesmarn

Hi, ex, how are you?

glenn

ExFan, AdLib is away this evening, but we can raise your concerns.

kesmarn

hey ex, ad isn’t here right now. I too don’t want to lose searing’s voice

sillylittleme

We can talk about it…

kesmarn

I;ve known him for years…..I beg to differ.

exfanofariana

Ex, I haven’t been around the Planet this week. What is the “story” on Searing T and Ad?

glenn

ex – who are you speaking to?

sillylittleme

Hope I didn’t lose y’all there!

kesmarn

is anyone out there?

sillylittleme

All–while we’re on these serious issues, could we have a “latte salute” for a little comic relief? Or should we have a “scotty salute” ala gwb?

glenn

SLM..I am here.

murphthesurf3

SLM–I’m here, too.

glenn

Oh, glenn! Can you believe it?

kesmarn

Their actually willing to make a fuss over the Prez holding a cup of coffee!

kesmarn

I mean it’s not like he gave them the middle finger salute.

kesmarn

sillylittleme

kes – he should have!!

sillylittleme

Good one, SLM! I love the “Minister of Silly Walks”!

kesmarn

kes – they made a stink about a brown suit

sillylittleme

murphthesurf3

kes – that poor dog

sillylittleme

Right! And remember Dijon mustard on his burger?

kesmarn

kes – obviously they have a brown problem…

sillylittleme

That would seem to sum it up, SLM!

kesmarn

Kes–Yes, I can, unfortunately. The “patriots” at foxso-callednews never miss a chance to denigrate the Commander-in-Chief during time of war. Oh wait, that’s only Democratic presidents. If it’s a republican president, then you have to support him. Do you all remember during the Vietnam War, that even though we had a Democratic president, that the right wing actually supported him just beause he was president?

glenn

Exactly! And the GOP sure as hell didn’t sue FDR during WWII!

kesmarn

glenn – they always support war when it is a failure, successes not so much. Remember Bosnia…

sillylittleme

Murph–Jon Stewart absolutely went on a rant about the “patriots” at foxso-callednews. It was brilliant and heartfelt!

glenn

SLM, Ah, but then, in their twisted version of Islam, it’s instant heaven ( but wait, there’s more – virgins!) if you kill yourself while killing unbelievers, , but plain suicide is forbidden!

pinkpantheroz

ppo – spot on!!

sillylittleme

Murph–what absolutely pisses me off about the pic of gwb is it’s not even a salute!

glenn

FOX really is virtually treasonous. And an impartial study said that 58% of what they say is false. I’m surprised it wasn’t higher!

kesmarn

Kes–I agree. Only 58%?

glenn

SO — what does everyone think of the way the Prez is handling the ISIS situation — and his speech at the UN?

kesmarn

Kes–as with everything in the Middle East, there is no simple solution, and everything is neither black nor white, right nor wrong. I’m afraid the consequences of these bombings will just lead to more ISIS followers. However, I do lke that the President has formed a coalition and we are not going it alone. I see the British parliament voted to participate in the bombings, but only in Iraq, not in Syria. Also, they will not put “boots on the ground.”

glenn

kes – I missed it, what did you think?

sillylittleme

Have you seen this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYcSqIuqkz4

murphthesurf3

Sorry did not work.

murphthesurf3

I thought it was a good, strong speech and it seemed to be well-received. And glenn, yes — it’s so complex. For every action, there’s a reaction. And yet — it doesn’t seem that we can refuse to act. If you know what I mean.

kesmarn

Let’s try that without the “v” Murph…

kesmarn

Oops…maybe I missed a letter.

kesmarn

murphthesurf3

Got it…..

murphthesurf3

sillylittleme

murph – sorry just trying to help

sillylittleme

Hahaha! “All right, we apologize for that…”

kesmarn

kes- how about sorry, not sorry…

sillylittleme

Kes–I have said it before; I would like to see more ME countries participating, especially the Saudis. However, the British parliament will act in Iraq because the Iraqi government has asked for help. They will not bomb in Syria, however. I agree, it doesn’t seem that we can refuse to act, but it’s one of those “damned if we do; damned if we don’t” situations, IMO.

glenn

ANCHORAGE, Alaska — Viewers of the KTVA-TV 10:00pm news on Sunday got quite a surprise when reporter Charlo Greene not only outed herself as the owner of a medical marijuana business, but also promptly quit on the air. WATCH: ALASKA REPORTER WHO SAID ‘F*** IT, I QUIT,’ FOR WEED BIZ FURTHER EXPLAINS HER REASONING Greene did a story on the Alaska Cannabis Club, without revealing her connection to it. Afterwards, she announced that she was the club’s owner and was quitting her job at the station. “Now everything you heard is why I, the actual owner of the Alaska Cannabis Club, will be dedicating all of my energy for fighting for freedom and fairness which begins with legalizing marijuana here in Alaska,” she said. “And as for this job, well, not that I have a choice but, (expletive) it, I quit.”

murphthesurf3

I was just going to use the same words, glenn. “damned if we do; damned if we don’t.” I think I read that France is bombing in Iraq as well.

kesmarn

Somehow that reporter pretty much covered how I feel about the weelk

murphthesurf3

Murph–good thing the week is over then!

glenn

I suspect she was just about to get fired, Murph!

kesmarn

murph – noooooooooooooooooo

sillylittleme

And it never helps to have a toothache either. Did you say that you were battling one?

kesmarn

Murph–does it cheer you up any that over 90% of Obamacare sign-ups are paying their insurance? Another gop lie laid to rest!

glenn

BRB folks.

glenn

Wasn’t the entire economy supposed to be collapsing in ruins due to Obamacare right about now? I can’t even count how many GOPers said that earlier this year.

kesmarn

What happened??

kesmarn

Did anyone else see the other shot-while-unarmed-black incident. At least that cop is in the slammer for it.

pinkpantheroz

PPO, I did see that. Saw the video and it was heart-breaking when the victim said plaintively: “Why did you shoot me, sir…?” Another multi-million $$ lawsuit, I hope!

kesmarn

I know that people are cranked up about the possibility of domestic terrorism, but it seems that we have some dangerous non-Muslim people in our midst and some of them are wearing badges…

kesmarn

kes – we have seen the enemy and he is us

sillylittleme

I am going to leave you all early tonight…tooth is driving me mad……next week I hope..thank Kes for being up to the job.

murphthesurf3

SLM–a slight correction, if you don’t mind. We have seenthe enemy and he is the gop/tparty.

glenn

SLM, yes, reforming our law enforcement and getting some gun control measures would make this country a lot safer!

kesmarn

G’night Murph. Hope the tooth gets better!

glenn

For those who may not have heard this incident in MEL, here’s a link. https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/man-shot-dead-two-counterterrorism-officers-stabbed-outside-endeavour-hills-police-station/story-fni0fee2-1227068293410?nk=37944e96f81f27d31e6720839bbbf577

pinkpantheroz

Good night, Murph! Hope you can get to the dentist soon and get some relief!

kesmarn

Thank you all.

murphthesurf3

Hey folks!

killgoretrout

nite murph – try some teething medicine

sillylittleme

PPO, is that a vid?

kesmarn

OOPS! https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/man-shot-dead-two-counterterrorism-officers-stabbed-outside-endeavour-hills-police-station/story-fni0fee2-1227068293410?nk=37944e96f81f27d31e6720839bbbf577

pinkpantheroz

hey kt

sillylittleme

Hey KT–how are you? How’s your mom?

glenn

Hey Homie! How are you and the mom doing?

kesmarn

sillylittleme

Well done, SLM!!

kesmarn

Thankx SLM! Trouble with the HTTPV bit!

pinkpantheroz

kes – I’m getting the knack of it…

sillylittleme

I’m a little tired this evening. Mom is doing OK. She’s still a little wobbly, but coming along pretty well. Her seizure was pretty bad. She has improved remarkably though, all things considered.

killgoretrout

Hi, KT. Glad to hear about your Mom. Tell her to keep it up .

pinkpantheroz

KT–my thoughts and hopes are with you and your mom that she continues to improve.

glenn

So glad to hear it! Funny story here: my 92 year old Dad is having some memory issues. This past week I left a birthday card for my 19 year old nephew at Dad’s place, knowing he would be stopping by.

kesmarn

Thanks PPO! She’s got a lot of support. Including you guys!

killgoretrout

OOps… rest of story. When I check on Sunday, my Dad had opened the card, taken out the money and thrown the card away. Apparently thought it was for him! He was a little embarrassed when the facts came out!

kesmarn

kt – recovery from a seizure can take a few days, if you need any tips, I got plenty!!

sillylittleme

Did he get it Homie?

killgoretrout

That’s funny, Homie!

killgoretrout

BRB

pinkpantheroz

My nephew finally did get the money — with an explanation, Homie. Sometimes, you just have to laugh.

kesmarn

Thanks slm.

killgoretrout

Yep!

killgoretrout

Kes–laughter is the best medicine!

glenn

kes – oh your poor dad, it must be so hard losing your ability to understand the world around you.

sillylittleme

Mom and I have had some pretty funny moments in the last couple of days.

killgoretrout

I know… it really is rough, SLM. And his vision and hearing are not too good which complicates matters.

kesmarn

I hope you two had a chance to get a good laugh, KT>

kesmarn

kt – do tell

sillylittleme

Okay folks, my turn to leave the Planet. Kes, a great job tonight! KT, PPO, and SLM, take care and I hope everyone has a great weekend!

glenn

Thanks so much, glenn! Any soccer games this weekend? And rest well tonight.

kesmarn

glenn – you too!!

sillylittleme

Homie, we’ve had some very funny moments. Sometimes mom gets into these little laughing jags were she almost can’t stop. It’s really funny. She’s a funny lady.

killgoretrout

Kes–two games this weekend. One tomorrow and one Sunday. Go Hailey!

glenn

Go Hailey!

kesmarn

go hailey!!

sillylittleme

kt – that’s a nice side effect…

sillylittleme

Homie, that’s great to hear! She sounds like quite a gal.

kesmarn

Well folks, hate to say Hi and Goodbye, but I’m pretty tired tonight. Hope to see you on the music thread. Take care, all.

killgoretrout

I hear you, Homie! (You’re allowed to be tired when you’ve been “on duty” all day. Sleep well!

kesmarn

She’s a trooper Homie. Very strong lady!

killgoretrout

Well kids, what do you think? Shall we wrap things up for the evening?

kesmarn

nite all

sillylittleme

Hi Planeteers!

sabreen60

G’night, SLM!

kesmarn

Hey, Sabreen! How’s your Friday going?

kesmarn

Things were just winding down here (and you might have figured out), but I’d love to hear your take on the week’s events — including the Holder resignation and the Prez’s UN address.

kesmarn

OOps.. as was supposed to be “as you might have” not “AND you might…”

kesmarn

Hey kes. It’s going well. I tried to get on earlier, but couldn’t. For some reason when Hubby is streaming on his computer, my computer acts up. He finished and I just stopped by to give a shout out to everyone.

sabreen60

Awww… sorry to hear that you had trouble getting on earlier. We’ll have to tell hubby he’s not allowed to watch Netflix on Friday nights!

kesmarn

kes, of course I’m sad to see AG Holder go, but understand he’s been on the job a lot longer than most. I think he’s done a great job. I know he’s been criticized for not locking up the banksters, but much of what they did was legal. I’m also grateful for his work on attemping to stop voter supression and criminal system.

sabreen60

kes, I pouted long enough, so he got the message.

sabreen60

I know! He’s had enough work to keep three attorneys general busy! And a friend who knows Deval Patrick said that she heard that Holder took a lot of the flak that was aimed at the Prez. Which could not have been easy.

kesmarn

I’m just glad you didn’t find the Vox bar closed up for the night when you finally got here!

kesmarn

Yes, I heard that also. Holder was PBO’s shield. Well both of them have been so abused. It’s really a shame. The day Holder announced his resignation, the Republicans including Boehner were just disgusting. I don’t recall Bush’s AG and his crooked peons being denigrated as badly.

sabreen60

PPO, if you’re still here… I just skimmed the article you linked to on the terrorist in Oz, and it looks like the police were just about to close in on him when he did this. They were on to him.

kesmarn

kes, thanks for keeping it open for me. I’ll try to be on time next week. But you take care and have a great week. Nighty night.

sabreen60

Sabreen, you’re right. I saw the most appalling little weasel of a “pundit” on the PBS Newshour attacking Holder. Fortunately they had a sane person on to rebut all his accusations.

kesmarn

Sabreen, you’re welcome here any time! But if you’re heading off to Dreamland, I’ll say g’night to you now!

kesmarn

Yep. Signing off.

sabreen60

Well, kids. It’s approaching the midnight hour here in the rustbelt. So we’ll close up the Vox bar for tonight and see you all back here, along with our Fearless Leader AdLib next Friday night!

kesmarn

Hey, speak of the…… leader!

kesmarn

Hope all’s well with you, AdLib! I think there are still some chips and dip left along with about half of a root beer float…

kesmarn

No? Me neither. I guess I’l be sliding over to check for any emails at this point then! G’night, AdLib!

kesmarn

My pleasure, AdLib. We had a very nice evening!

kesmarn

Catch you on the other side! ygm.

kesmarn

Sorry, Kes, for keeping you on. I’ll say goodnight and let you sign off. Cheers!

pinkpantheroz

PPO, it was a pleasure. Thanks so much for the link to that article. I read it and it’s truly a harrowing situation! Take care!

kesmarn