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Vox Populi – 01-09-2026

AdLib

January 9, 2026

Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PT. Hope to see you then!

AdLib6 hours ago

Hi AdLib – how are you?

choicelady

4 hours ago

Murph – are you there?

choicelady

4 hours ago

Hey!

AdLib4 hours ago

Hi!

choicelady

4 hours ago

How are you doing?

AdLib4 hours ago

OK I guess. After this horrid week it’s hard to define anything.

choicelady

4 hours ago

In addition to the public losses of life, I just found a longtime, close ally has died. It’s not abnormal at our age, but it sure is getting tiresome.

choicelady

4 hours ago

Hey TW – he showed UP, and he disappeared! Kind of defines life now.

choicelady

4 hours ago

Murph made it!

AdLib4 hours ago

MURPH!!!

choicelady

4 hours ago

Hello every hope you all had a joyous Christmas and Happy New Year

twilson117

4 hours ago

Merry Christmas, TW and a MUCH better new year – though it’s not off to a good start.

choicelady

4 hours ago

CL – Oh no, so sorry to hear that.

AdLib4 hours ago

This. is the first time in a month that I have been able to sign in.

MurphTheSurf3

4 hours ago

Murph good to see you

twilson117

4 hours ago

She was a lifelong activist for justice, a Methodist minister, and she was a hoot as a woman. I will miss her terribly.

choicelady

4 hours ago

You’ve been missed, Murph. Don’t know what the issue was but glad you could sign in now.

AdLib4 hours ago

Murph – I guess Mercury isn’t in retrograde now. Seize the day!

choicelady

4 hours ago

CL just wanted to let you know we did have snow here in MA but it didn’t stay long

twilson117

4 hours ago

CL – She sounds like she was a very special person.

AdLib4 hours ago

So how do we feel to officially be in a tyranny?

AdLib4 hours ago

Happy to see you all……I was able to post a message tonight on a page that looked somewhat like Vox but wasn’t although I could see messages from you all. I clicked send and the usual page popped up so here I am.

MurphTheSurf3

4 hours ago

TW – a little is fine. I’m old enough now to recall that shoveling sucks.

choicelady

4 hours ago

Murph – Next time take a screenshot of something like that, sounds bizarre.

AdLib4 hours ago

Murph – your experience getting here is ripe for a SciFi story.

choicelady

4 hours ago

CL one of the benefits of living in a complex is no more shoveling but cleaning off the car can be a pain.

twilson117

4 hours ago

Actually my Friday nights have been consumed by organizing…..things here are so screwy and there is so much that needs doing re. food, medical care, hosusing, farm foreclosures…..Dems and GOP are working together….a lot.

MurphTheSurf3

4 hours ago

Murph – What kind of computer do you have and how old is it?

AdLib4 hours ago

TW – totally agree. I lived in Buffalo where the parking was ALL on the street, and if you cleared a space it was a bloodbath if anyone tried to take it.

choicelady

4 hours ago

So I see the man who desires to be called Dear Leader has gotten is pound of flesh with the murder of a citizen by and Ice Thug

twilson117

4 hours ago

2022 MacAir

MurphTheSurf3

4 hours ago

Murph – as odd as that sounds, it doesn’t. Necessity brings people together.

choicelady

4 hours ago

Tw – ICE and Noem and Miller and JD are headed for hell. I don’t even believe in it, and I am calling forth the demons to seize them.

choicelady

4 hours ago

I’m still trying to process that Trump has been cementing himself in as a murderous, lawless tyrant. That he now feels free to have his ICE Gestapo murder political opposition and so many are cheering it on. This is so sick.

AdLib4 hours ago

Ad I don’t think Murph’s problems are technology. It’s supernatural fifth dimension stuff.

choicelady

4 hours ago

Murph – That’s a nice computer! Shouldn’t have any trouble logging in with that. Is the OS updated?

AdLib4 hours ago

Choice….you are so correct.’

MurphTheSurf3

4 hours ago

CL I’m thinking something worse for them I’m not even sure that Lucifer wants them in his domain

twilson117

4 hours ago

Choice….I am a tech retrograde

MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago

TW – Oh, I’m pretty sure Lucifer quit. Once Trump showed up, he couldn’t take the competition.

choicelady

3 hours ago

Murph – they call me “The Queen of the No. 2 Pencil” so I feel you.

choicelady

3 hours ago

Ad…..I think my OS is up to date….maybe I need to check on that.

MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago

twilson117

3 hours ago

T W – Yup.

choicelady

3 hours ago

CL Queen of the #2 pencil….quite a title.

MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago

It is a joke in my old office – but there’s truth in it.

choicelady

3 hours ago

Tw…how are things with you.

MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago

Here is what I posted earlier…it just popped up on my screen…… I am here but I am not in the usual dialogue box. Format looks very different. I have not been able to sign in for several weeks but I have been so busy dealing with the forest fire that is Trumpian Policy. Anyone here?

MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago

CL one thing about pencils the never have to be reboot, plugged in or die in the middle of a major project.

twilson117

3 hours ago

I hate to say it but it is more likely that things could get very worse as someone decides to take vengeance on ICE agents. If even one of them is killed, I think Trump will let them loose like mad dogs to murder and attack people in Dem cities. I think Dem Govs need to be ready to activate National Guard to protect their people from this Gestapo but Trump would then use that to declare the Insurrection Act and bring in the military to potentially kill Americans.

AdLib3 hours ago

Murph I still alive and kicking

twilson117

3 hours ago

very much worse

AdLib3 hours ago

Alive for sure….kicking sometimes

MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago

Ad – Walz is activating the Guard. I think other Blue states will do the same.

choicelady

3 hours ago

Murph how are things out your way politically is Josh still despised as he should be?

twilson117

3 hours ago

This country is in enormous danger right now and I’m not sure the remaining legit media and the Dems in Congress realize how close we are to a physical civil war.

AdLib3 hours ago

TW – I SO want a world as easy as a manual typewriter, pad and pencil, a TV you brought home and plugged in, watched. I’m tired of needing a degree in electronics just to do basic stuff.

choicelady

3 hours ago

Ad what happen was destined to take place, these guys just plain trigger happy.

twilson117

3 hours ago

Ad – Dems in Congress know it better than ANYONE else which is why they are pushing to stay open – to pass bills, to give some forward momentum not just passivity.

choicelady

3 hours ago

CL – Yes, I saw that and was glad that Walz has done so. I think Newsom and Hochul and other Dem Govs need to do the same. I think Trump is energized from seizing Venezuela and is ready to act on all of his worst schemes.

AdLib3 hours ago

Josh Hawley is emerging as a truth sayer, a challenger and an organizer. He has stood up to the GOP leaders in the Senate….we have a GOP governor here who is doing much the same.

MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago

CL I can understand that.

twilson117

3 hours ago

So many are calling for really good steps against ICE.

choicelady

3 hours ago

Murph and how long to think that will last?

twilson117

3 hours ago

Murph – that is stunning. I loathe Hawley but do agree since I see him doing that.

choicelady

3 hours ago

Hawley has surprised me.

MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago

Remember when he said he paid no attention to international law – his morality was his guide? I read it as “mortality” and feel a glimmer of hope. Re-read it. Hopes dashed.

choicelady

3 hours ago

TW – True, hiring and egging on these ICE Gestapo to be violent meant such violence would happen but the quickness of Trump and Noem to lie about it and portray an inocent woman who was murdered as an evil terrorist is what’s most worrisome. They are prepared to mass murder, IMO, and propagandize it as snuffing out domestic terrorists.

AdLib3 hours ago

Murph – seriously. That man was MAGA personified, and suddenly…not.

choicelady

3 hours ago

Ms. Good is me. I would have said and done what she said and did. And for Ross, the ICE guy, it was taken so badly he murdered her.

choicelady

3 hours ago

CL – I think it is an absolute that the Dems can’t vote for any funding bill that doesn’t reign in Trump on the ICE Gestapo and overthrowing and stealing countries..

AdLib3 hours ago

Ad Trump’s quickness to lie is no surprise to me as that is all he does.

twilson117

3 hours ago

Our governor and a number of our legislators have given the cold shoulder to the MAGA movement…..for very practical reasons.

MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago

Ad – they can’t do it now. Don’t beat that drum. They have to pass what they can and then hope we have SUPER MAJORITIES 2026. We can’t ask them to sacrifice everything else to killing ICE. It’s just not right.

choicelady

3 hours ago

Murph that is interesting would one of those reasons be the tariffs?

twilson117

3 hours ago

Tw – good point on Trump’s instantaneous default to lies.

choicelady

3 hours ago

Murph – can you elaborate on the reasons why?

choicelady

3 hours ago

TW…this is a state that exports a lot of crops and many of those markets are shuttered because of those tariffs.

MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago

CL – That’s a very interesting take on Trump’s declaration of being unbound by the Constitution and international law. I would throw out there that it could also be because he now feels no one can stop him and is willing to take the whole country and world down with him.

AdLib3 hours ago

Ad – of course that’s how he feels.

choicelady

3 hours ago

Analysts say SCOTUS is going to deny his tariff power. HEADS WILL EXPLODE and KETCHUP WILL FLY if that’s the conclusion.

choicelady

3 hours ago

I wonder if Trump would cooperate with the Supreme Court now? He is so off the rails.

MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago

Murph this is what happens to farmers when an idiotic fool like Trump is in office claiming he knows everything about everything

twilson117

3 hours ago

Murph – uncharted waters.

choicelady

3 hours ago

CL – It is so clear that this monster Ross murdered poor Ms. Good and yet, all the RW media, pols, and MAGAs are so tribal they immediately embraced lies and demonizing the murder victim. At the very least, it’s disgusting.

AdLib3 hours ago

TW…indeed….there is not a Trump flag to be seen anywhere….

MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago

Folks I’m just going to come out and say the country is under dictatorial rule and just doesn’t know it yet. Trump is behaving like a dictator and congress is letting him get away with it and the SC is rubber stamping what ever he wants, it’s the lower courts fighting back.

twilson117

3 hours ago

Ad – I went through that in 1998 and again 2009 with the doctors slaughtered by anti abortion zealots. Demonize and go on. This is making me ill.

choicelady

3 hours ago

Ad – they are fleeing to the lies because the truth is just too devastating for them to handle. Self deception.

MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago

CL – Not that Dems should sacrifice everything else to stop ICE murdering innocent people but de facto supporting it by passing funding bills related to ICE should be a red line. How many more murders are acceptable? None should be the answer for Congressional Dems.

AdLib3 hours ago

TW – I do agree BUT there are major cracks in the system. Senate denied war powers. House passed ACA subsidies. Several other things – and cracks in the system are how the light gets in. He is losing power rapidly.

choicelady

3 hours ago

Murph what is happening to your hospitals no that the ACA subsidies are gone?

twilson117

3 hours ago

TW…I tend to agree with you ….. we have waded far deeper into totalitarianism than most of us know.

MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago

If they kill the funding is it a ‘stand alone’ bill? Fine. If it’s part of a package, don’t vote but DO NOT shut down either.

choicelady

3 hours ago

CL – Hoping the odds are right and SCOTUS kills Trump’s tariffs next week. Stripping him of one of his biggest weapons to assault the world and Americans will hobble him…but his response could be something bad.

AdLib3 hours ago

Guys – my cold/flu is resurging. I’m exhausted already. I need to go lie down and sleep. Hope you all are vaxxed on FLU because this uncovered strain needs some pushback. Sorry, seeing all of you here, to pull back, but I just can’t hang in. Love you – keep up the fight!!

choicelady

3 hours ago

TW- I am proud of our hospital systems and the state health system for planning for the worst and having fall back positions that provide basic service …..everyone , including the conservative middle and upper middle class is doing with less but its enough to hold down the fort.

MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago

CL yes I agree

twilson117

3 hours ago

Murph – Well, Trump did say this week that the only power over him is his…um…”morality”. Does make you wonder if he might again ignore the SCOTUS.

AdLib3 hours ago

CL Good night…get better and then get well.

MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago

Ad I also hope the SC will spike the tariffs but I have an uneasy feeling about that.

twilson117

3 hours ago

TW – You are right, we now live in a dictatorship. Businesses, educational institutions, law firms, and politicians are all scared of the tyrant attacking and harming them, they are bowing to him. It is the rare person in power who is standing up against Trump. This is so awful.

AdLib3 hours ago

What happens if a president decides to ignore Scotus?

MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago

Ad…agreed….

MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago

Murph I believe those loyal to Trump will be ecstatic

twilson117

3 hours ago

TW – Possible but while I expect a closer vote than it should be, I think SCOTUS will not hand Congress’ Constitutional power of tariffs over to Trump.

AdLib3 hours ago

TW…..does impeachment become the only option and is it fast tracked.

MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago

Ad the logical move if for the court knock it down as he is clearly overreaching.

twilson117

3 hours ago

Murph – Good question. I don’t know but if Trump ignores SCOTUS, which he kind of already has by not doing as ordered, the rest of our government will have to decide, including SCOTUS, if they will exist along with democracy or not and have to take action accordingly.

AdLib3 hours ago

My British chums from my School days are in shock…..

MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago

Murph – Though Trump is showing clear insanity right now, I don’t know that there could ever be a 2/3 vote in The Senate to remove him. Maybe but the odds are very slight.

AdLib3 hours ago

Murph impeachment is the easy part conviction is what is hard, the Repug s Senators need to grow a backbone and convict the SOB he is essentially using the the constitution for toilet paper.

twilson117

3 hours ago

Ad…is a 2/3 majority required.

MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago

TW – Indeed and I think that this is so cut and dried, so clearly prohibited by The Constitution that if SCOTUS doesn’t stop the tariffs, they might as well resign because they don’t matter anymore in a dictatorship where the dictator has been given all the powers of Congress.

AdLib3 hours ago

Murph the Senate needs 2/3 to convict

twilson117

3 hours ago

Ad….Succinct, and obvious.

MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago

TW…..2/3….I suspect that is impossible.

MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago

Murph – Yep, The House only needs a bare majority to impeach but 2/3 of The Senate must vote to convict him to remove him from office. Not impossible but it would demand a massive protest and outcry from Americans, Republicans especially.

AdLib3 hours ago

By the way……all of a sudden all of the obstacles to providing shelter here on my property fasded away. Housing 34 right now.

MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago

Murph it’s only impossible if the Senate keeps bending the knee to Trump which at the moment they are content to do.

twilson117

3 hours ago

Ad….succinct and possible but not probable. Our constitution was written to empower the elites and so it oes.

MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago

Murph that is great.

twilson117

3 hours ago

Murph! That’s great news! We kind of thought that as people started suffering more, the resistance to your housing people would recede. Great news!

AdLib3 hours ago

Thanks….there is a consortium of housing havens working together.

MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago

Murph considering what is going in the country what you are doing is going to be a godsend for those in distress.

twilson117

3 hours ago

Murph – We do need to consider one thing. The broad harm to the American people, both Dems and Repubs, that Trump is committing. As improbable as it is to convict in the Senate, if Repubs are losing their farms and safety nets and insurance and Dems are suffering as well, it is not impossible that a fervor could grow across the country to get rid of this insane lunatic. He’ll still have about 30% of the country behind him, the cult, but if 70% is virrulently against him and demand his removal, it isn’t impossible.

AdLib3 hours ago

My friends, I need to get to bed….lots of folks to feed in the morning….I am sad and angry for all of the evil at work in our nation but I am happy that this travesty has awakened the kindness that lies deep within.

MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago