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Vox Populi – 11-14-2025

AdLib

November 14, 2025

Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PT. Hope to see you then!

AdLib3 hours ago

Hi, AdLib – how are you?

choicelady

an hour ago

Hey CL!

AdLiban hour ago

How are you and hubby doing?

AdLiban hour ago

The “attendance taker” on Vox says there are four of us, but the other two are invisible.

choicelady

an hour ago

Heh! No Invisible Men here!

AdLiban hour ago

I’m OK. Still really tired, but we both figured it’s emotional. Off Tuesday northbound to the memorial. Everyone coming in . It will be good.

choicelady

an hour ago

Only us right now.

AdLiban hour ago

I think you’re right, we just don’t always realize how our feelings can take our strength away.

AdLiban hour ago

Don’t know if it’s wishful thinking, but folks on Bluesky are documenting the many places Trump is failing, folding, over-reacting, and thus crashing. I hope it’s true.

choicelady

an hour ago

That sounds very nice, I’ll bet it will be a very fulfilling memorial.

AdLiban hour ago

Yes, I see it too, Trump looks like he’s losing what’s left of his mind!

AdLiban hour ago

A\\Hey TW!

AdLiban hour ago

Good evening

twilson117

an hour ago

His wife wrote the BEST obit full of zip and celebrating his life! Just perfect for who he was.

choicelady

an hour ago

TW!!! Lovely to see you!!

choicelady

an hour ago

So many things so little time 🙂

twilson117

an hour ago

CL it’s good to be seen.

twilson117

an hour ago

Yes – that indeed is true, TW. I was heartened to see an article that said, “If you can do these things at 70 you are in very good shape.” Well, I’m older than that and still do them all.

choicelady

an hour ago

Trump’s attacking MTG, Massie, blathering about giving people a few thousand dollars not to have health care but just that to cover all their medical expenses. Calling on Bondi to investigate Dems about Epstein, going after Swalwell, he is cracking up. Oh, and getting ready to attack Venezuela over his own lies. Crazyland!

AdLiban hour ago

CL – That sounds wonderful. Who knew him better than his wife?

AdLiban hour ago

AND – he is removing tariffs on various food things. Surprise – it means the public DOES pay them! Idiot finally figured it out.

choicelady

an hour ago

The files the files the Epstein files

twilson117

an hour ago

CL – What were the things listed that we ought to be able to do at 70?

AdLiban hour ago

She is wonderful. I loved what she did. No sadness, only celebration. Perfect.

choicelady

an hour ago

CL I passed 70 some time back 🙂

twilson117

an hour ago

CL – Yes! Pretty hard to keep up the lie that we don’t pay tariffs when he’s lowering them to bring prices down. He’s blowing up his whole presidency.

AdLiban hour ago

Ad – you should be able to climb stairs, bring in your own groceries, do household chores, etc. Mundane stuff, but I remember my mother couldn’t do them by that age.

choicelady

an hour ago

CL whish I could be 70 again 🙂

twilson117

an hour ago

TW – likewise. PPO and I are the same age, and it isn’t young. We are all doing well physically.

choicelady

an hour ago

I’m still a little ways away from 70 but I hope I can check all those boxes. One box I can’t check is remembering why I walked into a room.

AdLiban hour ago

TW – I was good up until last year and might be again once I get back to the gym.

choicelady

an hour ago

Yes Adlib you are the young one 🙂

twilson117

an hour ago

Ad – we don’t take forgetting such things as aging. It’s PREOCCUPATION.

choicelady

an hour ago

How did you like Meagyn Kelly trying to argue that rape of a 15 year old isn’t so bad as if it was an 8 year old. These MAGAs are self-immolating.

AdLiban hour ago

CL preoccupation I like that.

twilson117

an hour ago

My ex and I had a little song about it: P R E O C C U P I E D. We are preoccupied. It’s a fact you cannot hide. P R E O C C U P I E D. That’s my story, and I’m stickin’ to it.

choicelady

an hour ago

CL – Ah! Preoccupation and having used up so much of our brain’s hard drive with important and trivial facts?

AdLiban hour ago

Ad it never ceases to amaze how stupid people can really be.

twilson117

an hour ago

Yup. Life overwhelms. Age has little to do with it.

choicelady

an hour ago

TW – These MAGAs are blowing themselves up left and right. It’s astounding!

AdLiban hour ago

Ad couldn’t happen to a finer set of folks.

twilson117

an hour ago

Ad and TW – I am loving every moment of their collapse. When the Sec;y of Ag prematurely sent out SNAP, she then demanded it back. WI Governor Evers sent back his reply: NO. People are starting to be not just resistant but SNARKY about it.

choicelady

an hour ago

I think Trump will really lose it once 100 Repubs in The House vote to open the Epstein files and many Repubs in the Senate will too. They know their base of MAGA voters will eat them alive in primaries if they vote to hide them.

AdLiban hour ago

My peeps, liberal clergy, are getting major media for resisting ICE in Chicago. That is so cool! They did it here in Los Angeles and other cities, but Chicago took major headlines. I’m loving it!

choicelady

an hour ago

CL like people who need the aid will give it back? Yeah good luck with that.

twilson117

an hour ago

TW – the dog didn’t eat my homework. My kid at the food. Good luck with that, MAGA.

choicelady

an hour ago

CL – Very cool! Yes, I think the moment is ripening, not quite here yet but the cracks in Trump’s command of the GOP and MAGA are multiplying. He’s looking politically and physically and mentally weaker by the day and the election results have Repubs shaking in their boots about what happens next Nov if they keep following Trump down the drain.

AdLiban hour ago

50 MAGA are rising up in the House to vote against Trump and Johnson. So…Johnson shut down the House again. American Chicken should be the new GOP logo.

choicelady

an hour ago

choicelady

an hour ago

CL I didn’t see that

twilson117

an hour ago

CL – Yes and many are cheering on the clergy protesting in IL…and more so as they get arrested. The election last week backed by the Epstein files vote and releases seem to have kicked the rebellion against Trump into having much momentum.

AdLiban hour ago

Trump is now sequestering the Epstein files demanding that Bondi investigate Dems. Well, if there were a lot of them, we’d for sure know it.

choicelady

an hour ago

CL – Yes, I saw Johnson shut it down again but I found out that they have to wait a week anyway to proceed to a full house vote on the Epstein files as procedure. Is it shutdown for all of next week?

AdLiban hour ago

The arrests are by IL State Police for minor things. That always happens if you block streets and stuff. But it’s great theater.

choicelady

an hour ago

Ad – i don’t know how long. Johnson is such a freaking pipsqueak!

choicelady

an hour ago

I think Johnson will be ridden out on a rail by Repubs if he tries to put The House on recess to prevent a vote on the Epstein files. MAGA voters will come for them with torches and pitchforks if they don’t release the files.

AdLiban hour ago

CL – Good to hear they’re just ticky-tack charges to arrest the clergy.

AdLiban hour ago

Agreed – it is no longer 4. It’s 50. He’s terrified of them all.

choicelady

an hour ago

Ad I’m incline to agree with you.

twilson117

an hour ago

CL – I heard they’re expecting 100 Repubs in the House to vote to release the files and with that kind of landslide, maybe many more will jump on the wagon out of fear of standing out to MAGA voters as protecting pedophelia.

AdLiban hour ago

Hey – it has happened to us all. If you don’t have a permit to close the street, you are seriously going to get busted if you do it. It really IS a safety issue. We prochoice folks worked w the police on that in the 90s and so did BLM in 2020. Get the permit or keep it clear otherwise, bam, you get busted.

choicelady

an hour ago

Ad – THAT is cool – last I read it was 50. Getting 100? PRIMO!!

choicelady

an hour ago

DEMS got the messaging right on this. Vote to protect the files is a vote to protect sexual predators.

choicelady

an hour ago

Hi guest =- come on down!

choicelady

an hour ago

And now that Trump has again, publicly called on Bondi to investigate Dems over Epstein, I think we’re witnessing the end of the Trump DoJ being able to prosecute just about anyone. The selective prosecution offramp is getting enormous.

AdLiban hour ago

I am absolutely delighting in the mess VA made.

choicelady

an hour ago

MURPH!!! Hi!!

choicelady

an hour ago

Murph is in the House!!!!

twilson117

an hour ago

Hey Murph how are you?

twilson117

an hour ago

Hello folks!

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Hello, dear Murph!

choicelady

an hour ago

“White House Braces for More than 100 Republicans Voting to Release the Epstein Files”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/white-house-braces-for-more-than-100-republicans-voting-to-release-the-epstein-files/ar-AA1QnSBy

AdLiban hour ago

Hey Murph!

AdLiban hour ago

HOW COOL IS THAT??

choicelady

an hour ago

How am I…..? Up to my neck in working with the food pantries and with the state legislature to back fill the losses in food support.

MurphTheSurf3

44 minutes ago

Murph – I am not surprised. The need is real, and you ARE the man.

choicelady

43 minutes ago

CL – Absolutely! The dam seems to be breaking, the Trump spell has broken, he is being destroyed because he got too much power and his derangement has been set free fully.

AdLib43 minutes ago

It’s good to 100 repugs voting for this but it really should be them all, let refine that all that haven’t been to Epstein’s brothel

twilson117

42 minutes ago

All – I will not be remotely surprised if Trump shuffles off this mortal coil soon. He is rapidly losing weight, getting loopier by the hour, and none of it bodes well for him.

choicelady

42 minutes ago

TW – rumor hath it that rather a significant number of GOP can’t declare innocence about Epstein.

choicelady

41 minutes ago

All the polls show Trump is underwater on ALL topics and in approval. This week, AP had a poll that showed Trump at 35% approval! Repubs see that and the election results, they’re terrified!

AdLib41 minutes ago

I am rather proud that Mo. Governor and the legislation is funding various food programs by shifting revenue to fulfill their commitment to food program,s

MurphTheSurf3

41 minutes ago

CL I think he is in the early stages of dementia

twilson117

41 minutes ago

Now it seems Epstein was a Russian conduit, too.

choicelady

41 minutes ago

TW – I think he’s in late middle stage dementia.

choicelady

41 minutes ago

Murph – that is outstanding news about your governor’s commitment to feeding people!

choicelady

40 minutes ago

CL I could agree with that. He keeps using the phrase Sleepy Joe actually meaning himself.

twilson117

40 minutes ago

Murph that is good to hear

twilson117

40 minutes ago

We are also working to put more Democrats into competitive positions in local, county and state elected positions.

MurphTheSurf3

39 minutes ago

Tw – technically, Trump is Zombie Donald. He is loopy.

choicelady

39 minutes ago

CL – TW was saying the same thing. I don’t know for sure but he certainly seems to be falling apart notably more each day. And consider the incredible added stress to his mania now that the American people told him last Tuesday they dislike him and the Epstein ghosts are actively rising all around him. It would do the world a great service if he just gave up sooner than later.

AdLib39 minutes ago

Murph – good luck. I think people who normally would vote GOP have seen the light.

choicelady

39 minutes ago

Thanks….all

MurphTheSurf3

39 minutes ago

Weekend at Donalds.

AdLib38 minutes ago

Great work Murph!

AdLib38 minutes ago

America always has been a populace that had to have a house fall on them not once but several times before doing the right thing.

choicelady

38 minutes ago

Murph – wishing you and all Dem activists much success.

choicelady

38 minutes ago

CL – Agreed. My version of that same sentiment is, Americans have to suffer before they wake up to making better choices.

AdLib37 minutes ago

Murph sounds like reality and common sense is setting in on some of the good people in your state.

twilson117

37 minutes ago

AD the sad thing about that is people chose to do and they don’t have to

twilson117

36 minutes ago

Though we will remain in a very dark place for at least another year, it is the rebound of hope that is self-energizing and helping people rise up.

AdLib36 minutes ago

The history of America is of much greater awareness and resistance before it gets this bad. But we’ve been fooled by Hollywood into thinking the ‘rugged individualist’ was real. We don’t know our real history, only what we’re fed. Which was the POINT, but people are beginning to realize they need to resist. It will not get better on its own.

choicelady

36 minutes ago

Thanks everyone…your support is very assuring. Yes, reality is pressing down on the GOP here.and a number of GOP are realizing that their positions depend upon delivering promised programs.

MurphTheSurf3

35 minutes ago

My favorite part of US resistance is the humor on the front lines. The folks in costumes, the silly chants. We did that in ’92 in Buffalo during the siege of clinics by Operation Rescue, and we got the POLICE laughing. It’s a game changer.

choicelady

34 minutes ago

Murph at the end of the day I think people eventually realize that but for circumstance they could find themselves on the other side of the coin of have and have not.

twilson117

34 minutes ago

TW – You’re singing my song. If so many voters weren’t as complacent and ignorant about things, we could have a nice country here. Too many…er….stupid people, too many self-involved people with no sense of compassion for their neighbors and fellow Americans, too many people distracted by just pleasing themselves, always end up driving the car into the ditch then finally become active to pull it out after the disaster they allowed to happen.

AdLib34 minutes ago

Ad I couldn’t agree more

twilson117

32 minutes ago

CL – I think it was a massive game changer when the people in Portland came out in the frog and other costumes. The whole Trump scheme seemed to depend on whipping up the visuals of an insurrection so he could invade the US with the military. And those wonderful frogs and others just destroyed that pretext!

AdLib31 minutes ago

Ad – EXACTLY!

choicelady

30 minutes ago

Many in Mo. live on the border between poverty and barely making it and that is creating a sense of “common cause” in both populations

MurphTheSurf3

30 minutes ago

Ad I always felt Frump was using the George Floyd protests as his rubic to justify what he is doing in sending in his American Gestapo goons to crack skulls and start trouble.

twilson117

28 minutes ago

A number of good people have noted that we don’t have nice things because so many white people can’t stand the idea Black people have them, too. I think some of that is cracking as Trump trashes EVERYONE who is in need pretty equally.

choicelady

28 minutes ago

And let’s not overlook how critical the judges have been in helping to hold back the massive military invasion of cities by Trump. The Reagan-appointed judge who issued a permanent restraining order against Trump from using NG in Portland, that was huge! And all the other great judges holding the line!

AdLib28 minutes ago

TW- you are totally correct. He has his media playing scenes from 2020 as if they are now. And oddly, people aren’t buying it.

choicelady

27 minutes ago

Ad – the courts are great. And Trump has nowhere to turn since SCOTUS isn’t clear yet on where they stand on his perfidy.

choicelady

26 minutes ago

The refusal of SCOTUS to rule on Oberfefell in Kim Davis’ suit was boffo.

choicelady

25 minutes ago

I hate to be such a wimp…..but my plate is SO full that it seems ready to t0collapse under the weight of needs buy we are pushing back

MurphTheSurf3

25 minutes ago

CL it amazes me just how gullible a large portion of the Americal population is.

twilson117

25 minutes ago

Murph – all of us out there trying to help are feeling it. You’re doing more than most because it’s a Red state.

choicelady

24 minutes ago

TW – I think you’re right. Trump wanted the appearance of BLM type protests against his Gestapo troops to do what he wanted to do during BLM. That is, declare the Insurrection Act or at least, use troops as if he had with none of the hassle. And it is blowing up in his face. The plethora of videos of poor defenseless people being brutalized and sent to concentration camps, disappeared, children left alone on the street, the country is reeling from this and that moron thinks it’s making him look tough. He looks like a monster and is only rallying more and more people against him each day.

AdLib24 minutes ago

Tw – I am less surprised at the gullibility due to our America First/HUAC/McCarthy past. We’ve often been suckers for the RW okey doke.

choicelady

23 minutes ago

I sense that you are correct CL and the other posts here from Ad, and TX appear to be in synch with what I am seeing in this red world

MurphTheSurf3

23 minutes ago

Ad arresting American citizens who were born here because of their skin pigmentation,

twilson117

22 minutes ago

TW – I saw a chart on Bluesky that listed level of education with supposrt of Harris vs. Trump in the 2024 election. What you might imagine was the case, the more educated, the higher amount of support for Kamala. Not that a degree is needed to be smart but little education clearly makes people more ignorant and gullible to con men like Trump.

AdLib21 minutes ago

I am not one to turn my back on a MAGA voter (for that alone – be a racist dick? That’s different.) If people need help, they need help. Period. And the willingness of “known liberals” – you – comes to them with grace, that’s life changing for them.

choicelady

21 minutes ago

CL add to that the constant dumbing down of the US citizen wanting to censor books force people to read the Bible and essentially declare Trump a good. We are on the verge of cats and dogs living together.

twilson117

20 minutes ago

TW – Having a SCOTUS declare that law enforcement can legally stop and detain any person based on their skin color is so Civil War.

AdLib20 minutes ago

I am finding some of the biggest resistance to a genuinely good society comes from liberals who vote well but don’t LIVE well. Judgemental and demanding of their white supremacy, they can be real problems. I’d rather deal with repentant MAGA frankly.

choicelady

20 minutes ago

Ad – that Kavanaugh statement is so ignorant. My SIL is an attorney who worked w him once and liked him. YEARS ago. She doesn’t like him anymore.

choicelady

19 minutes ago

Since this state is SO ReD…..many are totally flabbergasted when they realize how the most ardent are serving the forcers that underline the libra gof ordinary peplle

MurphTheSurf3

18 minutes ago

So here’s the cool thing – state and local cops can and ARE arresting ICE for breaking local and state laws. Surprise! It’s legal and has been forever.

choicelady

18 minutes ago

CL – I think that if Dems run as they did this year, on afforability and ways to improve the standard of living for the 99%, they will do great next year. And running on making the billionaires finance a better standard of living for most Americans wouldn’t hurt either. The billionaires ARE enemies of the well being of the many.

AdLib17 minutes ago

I think Dems should run on what works locally. I think demanding ONE BIG MESSAGE is a real mistake. The rousing success at local and state levels tells me the candidates are LISTENING. And maybe it’s not the same in Big Cities from rural areas, but do whatever it takes to uphold your potential constituents. Let the party operatives go twist in the wind.

choicelady

16 minutes ago

CL – It will be a huge gamechanger for cities and states to arrest more and more ICE and BP thugs. They need to have a bit of fear instilled in them, they still seem to think they can commit any crime against anyone. And I wouldlove to see Bovino arrested.

AdLib15 minutes ago

We have had sheriffs and deputies do as you point out Choice……The ICE, HS, BC forces are seen as invaders.

MurphTheSurf3

15 minutes ago

Ad – affordability AND inclusiveness, not a drum beat but a kindness, have to go hand in hand. And that is working. Omaha – where I had family for years – got a BLACK Dem mayor for the reason that he knew the city and its needs.

choicelady

14 minutes ago

CL – But wouldn’t you agree that the overall message of affordability is attractive to even MAGAs? That doesn’t mean all Dems need to present the same proposals but look at the Dems who won last Tuesday. Many cndidates with different proposals, some more moderate, some more progressive and even socialist but they were tailored to their constituents and they all kicked ass.

AdLib13 minutes ago

The food pantry and emergency shelter I work with are allied with the local police vs. the bounty hunter Ice forces.

MurphTheSurf3

13 minutes ago

I am trying to talk activists into reaching out to local cops, building community policing. Those who are do well. Those who still think all cops are fascists will get fascist cops. I flipped the ENTIRE city of Buffalo pretty much single handedly in the early 90s just by talking frequently with them. I’m just ONE person. Think what a community can do! Build on what Murph found – WE are all locals. ICE and CBP are raiders.

choicelady

12 minutes ago

CL…that is all correct…and the road to common action for all of us.

MurphTheSurf3

11 minutes ago

Murph that is an app way of describing the ICE & CPB a-holes.

twilson117

11 minutes ago

People say all cops are thugs. Hubs was a police beat reporter in a small town in the cop shop. One night the Sgt. came in, put chalk marks on each desk. Two hours came back, gave them all tickets. Cop humor is real. Build on it.

choicelady

11 minutes ago

CL – Agreed on inclusiveness. I think Dems can achieve that with a campaign about affordability for all their constituents, not even bringing up divisions between parties. That’s what you’re saying, isn’t it?

AdLib11 minutes ago

Gang….too tired for words …..but I want to send out a “Thanks” to Obama and his people.who have became manjor morale builders.

MurphTheSurf3

9 minutes ago

Ad – it’s more about the insidious racism. Build a society where everyone in it gets what they need. People now, suddenly, get that the white single moms are the same as Black single moms all trying to feed their kids. Don’t have to beat the drum – just feed the kids.

choicelady

9 minutes ago

CL – One way or another, there does need to be a coming together in this so fractured society. Between rural and urban citizens who face many of the same issues in this economy, between police and their communities, the effort has to be made by both sides of the divide.

AdLib9 minutes ago

Murph a strong rope is made up of many strands

twilson117

8 minutes ago

CL – Maybe that will be how the pendulum swings back after this racist Trump era, maybe people will have tired so much of the hate that they will be readier to put the exhusting nature of racism and hatred aside and find a more consturctive way to define themselves.

AdLib7 minutes ago

Murph – absolutely to Obama and his folks! And with that, I need to move on. I’m on blood pressure meds that wear me out and with the memorial coming next week for hubs’ brother, I’m still faiding early. LOVE seeing you. I won’t be here next Friday. If we gather after T’giving, maybe. Have a lovely holiday and good in gathering with those whom you love. Good time to practice that rope weaving Ad is recounting. Hope everyone has a very, very fine holiday.

choicelady

6 minutes ago

Good night! Great to see you all!

choicelady

6 minutes ago

Whoa! CL was gone so quickly!

AdLib6 minutes ago