Vox Populi, our weekly live chat begins tonight at 7:00pm PT. Hope to see you then!

AdLib3 hours ago

Well it’s Friday and the Repugs seem to be beside themselves and they are crying the blues of the Epstein files. Don’t know what they expect, but whatever it is it most likely will be anticlimactic like their sex lives.

twilson117

an hour ago

Hey TW!

AdLiban hour ago

Hey Ad another day and still a dollar short 🙂

twilson117

an hour ago

Trump’s busy creating phony distractions for his MAGAs by having Grand Jury info released but redacted which is nothing compared to the files Bondi has.

AdLiban hour ago

Yep!

AdLiban hour ago

I saw that what a total idiot

twilson117

an hour ago

The annoying thing is that we’re in a period that’s still about extreme actions and consequences are still a ways away.

AdLiban hour ago

Evening Gents….

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Ad you know me they truly do not understand how close they are to losing the democracy they claim to love.

twilson117

an hour ago

Hey Murph how you doing?

twilson117

an hour ago

Once the consequences come, Trump will be buried in an avalanche of resentment but we’re still at a point where he polls around 40% right now. Keep in mind, while Biden was president and things were going great, he had a 37% approval because the MSM was dumping on him daily. Meanwhile the MSM pumps up and bribes Trump despite him doing horiffic things.

AdLiban hour ago

I am not happy. My hopes of creating a shelter for the homeless on my land has been blocked by the county.

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Hey Murph!

AdLiban hour ago

Murph – What the hell? How were they able to block it?

AdLiban hour ago

Murph what reasons are they giving you??

twilson117

an hour ago

The claim that it was going to. be used as a sanctuary for “them”…take your pick….all of “those” who are not wanted here.

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Is there a provision in MO outlawing humanity? If there isn’t, there will be one.

AdLiban hour ago

The rumor was running amok that my place would be a hidden-hole for illegals.

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Murph tell those fools “Them” were giant ants caused by atomic bombs

twilson117

an hour ago

TW…I remember that awful film but the message was clear.

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Murph – The disgusting thing is, by 2027 when Medicaid is drastically cut, DoE is dissolved and SNAP is slashed, there will be so many homeless natives in MO with no place to live.

AdLiban hour ago

Murph it was one of the best sci-fi when sci-fi was hokey and all get out

twilson117

an hour ago

Oh yeah, I remember Them! Instead of giant ants, we’re being overrun by giant rats.

AdLiban hour ago

Ad,,,you are correct….another report making the rounds is that Mo is likely to lose nearly all of its rural hospitals.

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Ad there you go picking on NY again

twilson117

an hour ago

AdLiban hour ago

TW……yes, it was one the better BEWARE THE BOMB scare flicks but oh…so hokey and as to special effects….well no one really had a handle on that yet.

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Murph – I know they created that rural hospitals slush fund in the terrible bill but it is a small fraction, maybe 1/4 of what hospitals will lose and in this corrupt admin, it will get stolen away from helping rural hospitals any way.

AdLiban hour ago

Murph all those who supported Trump and had his signs showing ever so proudly in their yards and slapping themselves on the back when he won can personally thank him with the have to go to the hospital and see signs saying “SORRY WE ARE CLOSED DUE TO OUR STUPID TRUMP SUPPORTERS.”

twilson117

an hour ago

TW – Ithought rats were citizens of the world, mostly in conservative parties.

AdLiban hour ago

Ad….doncha love the image of the girl….a figure that would even attract an ant.

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Murph – I’m sure the giant ant was thinking, “That girl is the size of a me!”

AdLiban hour ago

Ad….doctors I know are weighing their options.

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

I doubt anyone really knows just how bad things are going to get once this insane budget bill kicks in in 2027. SO many people are unbothered to see roving gestapo in American streets, what about when massive numbers are sick and homeless with no help from government?

AdLiban hour ago

TW I live in the edge of “the country” and will access to the urban, suburban medical system but those who are truly rural will be stuck…..

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

I think a majority of Americans are good people but a big percentage have lost their humanity and have shed such things as sympathy and compassion. Too many hateful, selfish people who will be crushed by the society they’ve empowered to hurt “the others”.

AdLiban hour ago

As,,,thise American fascista will come in handy when the sick and homeless revolt.

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

Murph those cuts are going to have a major impact. I was talking with a good friend of mine who is the acting finance chair for a health care center his mother started he was telling me he sees major cuts coming and it will impact his HC severely.

twilson117

an hour ago

Murph – The thing is, these American fascists WILL BE among the sick and homeless. They are destroying themselves. States like CA and NY have huge budgets and can at least do something to help their citizens, Red States only function from federal money coming in and that is being shut off. Utter fools.

AdLiban hour ago

It will be a domino effect, as health care collapses and money gets so tight in state governemnts, other services will be carved down and down, a vicious circle that drags down the standard of living in all 50 states but especially in the poorest, Reddest states.

AdLiban hour ago

You both are hitting the bullseye

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

The thing about all this as a country we went through this before and here we are again repeating the same on horsepuckie

twilson117

an hour ago

As I was saying before, what upsets me is that we’re still a while away from the extreme consequences of this extreme destruction of government that right now, when harm could be reduced, too many Americans are clueless and don’t care about stopping what’s happening now.

AdLiban hour ago

Ad seems all the give a hoot about is the Epstein files

twilson117

an hour ago

And the bill will be coming due for so many millions of Americans in two years when the destruction is cemented in and fully harming people. Ignorant people are the bane of a decent and healthy society.

AdLiban hour ago

Years and years of failure to educate the young and reinforce for the older how a democracy operates and what their role is in that have created the environment in which such ignorance is the fertile ground in which fascism takes root and grows. Ans then the bitter harvest.

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago

TW – MAGA morons are angry at the Epstein files not being released but such small brained morons, they still can’t figure out why Trump is hiding them, that he’s in them. I only see them whining at Trump for not releasing them, not making the conclusion a 5 year old could, that it’s because he’s a pedophile himself and in those files. They’ve seen all the photos of Trump with Epsteing and still can’t let themselves believe it.

AdLiban hour ago

There is no internal mechanism to hold Trump and company responsible so if something is to happen it will be from the outside of government.

MurphTheSurf3

43 minutes ago

Murph – And let’s not leave out how corrupt the wealthy are, such as those who own major corporations, who are literally and openly bribing Trump and supporting him for their receiving favors and tax breaks Dems would never give them. The MSM was never liberal but now it is MAGA-fied, so few remaining news outlets that haven’t gotten into bed with the fascism and corruption of Trump.

AdLib43 minutes ago

You saw CBS fired Stephen Colbert who just on Monday, called out CBS/Paramount for bribing Trump to get their buyout from Skydance approved by him. This is so perverse. We are in a fascist government right now.

AdLib42 minutes ago

A fascist country. With gestapo roaming the streets of America in big numbers, only to get far bigger.

AdLib41 minutes ago

Ad…the symbiotic relationship between extreme wealth and extreme corruption is easy to see but so hard to neuter.

MurphTheSurf3

40 minutes ago

And the celebration of the torturous concentration camp in Florida? A huge part of our society is sick, mentally. Sick, sick people.

AdLib39 minutes ago

I wonder why Colbert has been given a year in which to bow out.

MurphTheSurf3

39 minutes ago

Gentlemen I have been wrestling with this for quite some time. Our form of democracy is on critical life support. This bill the Senate and House just passed to let Trump claw back money that was already allocated coupled the majority Repug Justices giving Trump everything he wants, democracy is on life support and fading fast.

twilson117

38 minutes ago

Murph – Indeed, the wealthy win the war of encroachment over the years on the rights and wealth of the many but in this case, it is a huge grab like never before…and the ignorant in this country just bury their heads in Instagram.

AdLib38 minutes ago

Murph – Probably Colbert’s contract ends in a year and they don’t want to be sued massively by him. But he still could.

AdLib37 minutes ago

TW….you lay it out rather clearly….and the role the Courts play in all of this is particularly disturbing.

MurphTheSurf3

36 minutes ago

Ad….I considered his contract but I wonder if they will eventually have to force him out early..I cannot see him obliging those powers with the kind silence they want.

MurphTheSurf3

34 minutes ago

TW – What you say is so true and of course, quite painful to admit. We are in a terrible place right now and I also mean that in a timing way, a year and 4 months away from an election that could change the balance of power and so much is being done already to prevent a fair election like the TX redistricting. Repubs are openly fascist now and feel emboldened, they think they can end democracy and stay in power forever if they just hit the gas now on obverthrowing the Constitution. And the SCOTUS is right there with them.

AdLib34 minutes ago

Murph you taught history for a while the patterns are all there in what we are going through, For the House and Senate to seed the power of the purse to the EO and the Court to effectively say the Office of the Presidency has unlimited power to do whatever it wants, well they found a new way spell democracy —- dictator

twilson117

33 minutes ago

Murph – I don’t know for sure but I think it will be very hard for CBS to pull Colbert without a big lawsuit from him that WOULD require discovery on their bribe to Trump which they surely don’t want out in the public.

AdLib32 minutes ago

Ad….pretty clearly laid out….the entire systems being neutralized.

MurphTheSurf3

32 minutes ago

To try and offer a little hope, I think what needs to happen is for Governors, state legislatures, and mayors to take bold and confrontational stands against Trump. Here in CA, one house of the legislature has passed a bill requiring all fed law enforcement to show identification and be barred from wearing masks. I think the other house will pass it as well and Newsom will sign it. Combine that with the court order now barring Feds from roaming and picking up anyone for any reason, CA is among the leaders of the push back and it will grow.

AdLib29 minutes ago

TW…I taught history 35 years….most of it American and as standards were lowered and the curriculum gutted I feared that powerful ignorance would empower the anti-democracy forces. It has.

MurphTheSurf3

28 minutes ago

You’re right, Murph. But even in countries with poor education, when the suffering of the people gets to be too widespread, especially in a nation where gun ownership is also widespread, a tyranny can’t prevail endlessly.

AdLib27 minutes ago

Murph you understand what I’m talking about. People have no idea how our form of governance is suppose to work.

twilson117

27 minutes ago

I foresee the federal government challenging states rights and authority and with the supreme court in trump’s back pocked eventually those forces will triumph

MurphTheSurf3

26 minutes ago

I would suggest that when MAGAs are losing their farms, homes, cars, health insurance, retirement, they may not team up with the rest of us but they will revolt too.

AdLib25 minutes ago

TW…we are on the same page.’

MurphTheSurf3

25 minutes ago

Murph – I don’t know about that. If CA refuses to follow the SCOTUS as TX did when Biden was in office and for instance, withholds tax money from the feds, that will be a real standoff.

AdLib24 minutes ago

And the SCOTUS is on the cusp of losing all power and credibility. Red states ignored SCOTUS when Biden was in the WH, if CA refuses to accept their unconstitutional rulings, there’s nothing SCOTUS can do and other states will follow. We could see a technical civil war arise, not an armed one but a civilly contested conflict.

AdLib21 minutes ago

States and cities performing civil disobedience and if it is widespread, even this hyper-funded ICE gestapo won’t be enough to stop it.

AdLib20 minutes ago

Ad….I do not hold much faith in right to bear arms to undo what is backed by the national military machine.

MurphTheSurf3

20 minutes ago

Murph Texas always likes to refer to their 10th amendment rights when it suits then go off do stupid stuff like germander districts to make sure they are all republican

twilson117

19 minutes ago

Murph – I’m not talking about a literal war, I’m talking about states and cities practicing civil disaobedience and simply refusing to do as the fascist tyrant dictates. If that begins, it will spread and if states make part of that, withholding tax money to finance their states when the Feds won’t, it would be a non-violent standoff.

AdLib18 minutes ago

This is the real key issue for the Dem party, are the leaders going to remain the defenseless losers like Schumer or will Dem voters demand real and aggressive fighters to lead their states and cities?

AdLib16 minutes ago

Ad…but it may be a literal war….Trump would love to order HIS troops into non-cooperative states with orders to to clear the way fior federal seizure of the local and state wide governments.

MurphTheSurf3

15 minutes ago

Ad I think that is a jump ball at the moment. But have to agree something has to change, the Dems need to stop with the nice guy attitude the Repugs don’t care, for them this is war.

twilson117

15 minutes ago

We are at war to save our democracy and the Dem leaders who figure out that fighting aggressively is the only way to rally voters and resist the fascists, will gain the same kind of loyalty and support that they need to stave off these fascists.

AdLib15 minutes ago

Murph – As a strategy, that is exactly what a good leader would want, for Trump to choose to go too far and lose his remaining support in the country. What would most Americans think if Trump sent in his gestapo to overthrow CA’s democratically elected and supported government? The country would be in an uproar.

AdLib13 minutes ago

A Civil War to Save Democracy…..frightening

MurphTheSurf3

12 minutes ago

Ad those who support Trump wouldn’t give a Damn because that is what they want. For folks like us we be horrified.

twilson117

12 minutes ago

Trump has already threatened to take over NYC if Mamdani wins. If these ignorant, uninformed Americans see those huge headlines, that Trump is installing goons to take over states and cities, he will become evil in the eyes of those who have no idea of what is going on right now.

AdLib10 minutes ago

Well, friends….I need sleep…I have to undo a lot that has been done to pave the road for a refuge here. Heartbreaking.

MurphTheSurf3

10 minutes ago

Murph – But I don’t believe it would ever come to a physical war, it is more likely to be a civil disobedience war.

AdLib10 minutes ago

Murph dig deep into bowels of your history teaching and I be willing to bet you will find it was a constant struggle to maintain rule of law

twilson117

9 minutes ago

And add to all of this, all the ignorant Americans who will be suffering terribly in 2027, they will turn against Trump too. He won’t be able to stand with 70% of the nation against him.

AdLib8 minutes ago

I have no doubt that violence will be a tool for both sides.

MurphTheSurf3

8 minutes ago

Sorry about the homeless facility disappointment but by pursuing it, you’ve done work that is worthy.

AdLib7 minutes ago

Ad……all one needs to do is alter the form the electoral process to favor the rigging of the results.

MurphTheSurf3

7 minutes ago

Murph I have a feeling you will find another way

twilson117

7 minutes ago

Murph – Violence will not be coming from states and cities governments but I don’t doubt some extremists opposed to Trump may commit violence.

AdLib6 minutes ago

Ad that you can take to the bank

twilson117

6 minutes ago

Murph – But states that aren’t Red won’t go along with Trump’s election corruption.

AdLib6 minutes ago

TW- Democracy has always relied on the resources and commitment of citizens to maintain it but I fear that there will not be a critical mass of such citizens.

MurphTheSurf3

5 minutes ago

Murph – as Gandhi said, “Remember that all through history, there have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they seem invincible. But in the end, they always fall. Always.”

AdLib4 minutes ago

Ad….I foresee martial law being used in states where cooperation is lacking.

MurphTheSurf3

4 minutes ago

Murph it the see and truly understand what they have to lose they may will say NO THAT WILL NOT STAND

twilson117

4 minutes ago

Murph – It’s not sustainable, the country will not just roll over with Trump’s declaration of martial law.

AdLib3 minutes ago

I do hope you are correct…. Off to bed…..

MurphTheSurf3

3 minutes ago

There are 40 million people in CA and as in Gandhi’s India, a few thousand troops can’t make 40 million do what they want.

AdLib2 minutes ago

Hey TW, still have a bit of a cough, can we chat later in the week?

AdLiba minute ago

No problem take care.

twilson117

a few seconds ago

Thanks!

AdLiba few seconds ago

Night!

AdLiba few seconds ago

Get that cough checked out

twilson117

a few seconds ago

I know what it’s from, it’s getting better.

AdLibin a few seconds

But slowly.

AdLibin a few seconds

get some rest get better see you later

twilson117

in a few seconds

Thanks! Have a nice weekend!

AdLibin a minute

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