Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PT. Hope to see you then!
AdLiban hour ago
Helllooooo?? Anybody home?
choicelady
an hour ago
hEY HEY!
AdLiban hour ago
Hey, Ad!
choicelady
an hour ago
How are you doing today?
AdLiban hour ago
Exhausted. The rumors that you sleep less as you age are true. But 2.5 hours just is NOT cutting it.
choicelady
an hour ago
No, that’s not enough.
AdLiban hour ago
Have you tried melatonin?
AdLiban hour ago
Some nights fine, others not. I FINALLY figured out last night around 5:30 am that I was COLD. It’s been so long I didn’t even recognize it. Mostly my feet, so I found the bed socks – with pink bunnies – and finally fell asleep.
choicelady
an hour ago
Melatonin and I are very incompatible. Makes me nauseated.
choicelady
an hour ago
Yes, bed socks come in very handy, especially on very cold nights.
AdLiban hour ago
That’s too bad.
AdLiban hour ago
I honestly have no answer. But now I remember it’s FALL and not 120 degrees out, and prepare accordingly, I should sleep better.
choicelady
an hour ago
Anyway, how are you down there in La La land?
choicelady
an hour ago
Yes, I turn the AC up a little at night when I can remember to do so and it does help me sleep better.\
AdLiban hour ago
Doing okay. Just trying to keep the stress at a manageable level until the 5th.
AdLiban hour ago
Well, we actually have the HEAT on – it’s getting down into the 40s at night. Not hot, but, well, it IS Fall.
choicelady
an hour ago
I am finding much of this almost intolerable. But I’ve cleaned my follower list and don’t get a lot of RW garbage. That said, I still look at or read the news, and it’s anxiety producing.’
choicelady
an hour ago
Despite my skepticism, I am a little stressed by the alleged polling showing it neck and neck even though intellectually I know it doesn’t line up with a preponderance of anecdotal evidence.
AdLiban hour ago
Have you heard there’s supposed to be a bombshell story coming out on Trump? Tomorrow or this weekend. I think it will be about treason, the only thing that hasn’t actually been publicly confirmed.
choicelady
an hour ago
BTW, dropped off our votes today at a drop box! At least I hope it was a drop box!
AdLiban hour ago
Well, Marist has rather powerful BIG GAP polls for her in several swing states. That’s what makes this so frustrating – whom does one believe on polling? At the end of the day, if she has a blowout, the whole polling methodology needs a major do over.
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad 
Yeah – but if if was a Library return, you’ll be fine. If it was a garbage bin? Not so much.
choicelady
an hour ago
Yes, I’ve heard that about a bombshell story but I have doubts because I’ve seen different claims about what it is, one person said it’s video of Trump groping a donor’s daughter and there’s this one about a treason. I hope it’s going to happen but I do have doubts.
AdLiban hour ago
Did you see the NC dipshit who told his election board to just turn over the EC votes to Trump NOW before the election because…the hurricane. Are all GOP plum nuts?
choicelady
an hour ago
The drop box did say “Salvation Army” on it but I assumed that was a rallying cry.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad – I agree. And I don’t care. Those who could be swayed at this point are few and far between.
choicelady
an hour ago
I think your ballot is cooked. Might have to go provisional. Oh, well – you always can find a way to vote. That’s the joy of living in these times.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – Yes, I saw that and it was a Repub Rep from another state! Not even NC! They dishonestly whine about election fraud while they actually promote anti-democratic acts.
AdLiban hour ago
I used to think the saying, “Every accusation is a confession” was hyperbole – it’s NOT! They really ARE that craven!
choicelady
an hour ago
Agreed, I don’t think there are many undecided and history proves that they’ll swing towards the “new” and “change” candidate which is Kamala.
AdLiban hour ago
All good. I’m here for it.
choicelady
an hour ago
Trump was three hours late to his rally, wherever that was. You just can’t treat people that poorly and keep them.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – Yes, and they don’t seem to care about getting caught. Did you see about the thousands of registrations in Lancaster, MI that are fraudulent and appear tied to a well known Repub/MAGA operative?
AdLiban hour ago
Yes, I did see that MI report. And the guy in NY who stole a mailer and put in his own – not mailed – two postal felonies in one. And then he had the cojones to tell a reporter he didn’t appreciate “gotcha” questions. Who ARE these people?
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – I saw video of that, MAGAs thoroughly discouraged and leaving early. I’m sorry, there is no logical argument for insisting that Trumpers are anywhere as enthusiastic as Kamala supporters. She’s filled a 30,000 seat stadium in Houston tonight! Doesn’t hurt that Beyonce is going to be there.
AdLiban hour ago
CL – Yes, saw that video. It’s like a crime mob only thinly disguised as a political party.
AdLiban hour ago
Did you sign up with the state to get texts on the progress of your vote? I get texts when it’s been collected/received and when it’s been counted.
AdLiban hour ago
They are reprehensible! Never saw a thing like it, and I’m from Daley’s CHICAGO!
choicelady
44 minutes ago
I have signed up. Not dropped the ballot yet – that’s tomorrow – but I love having the tracking.
choicelady
44 minutes ago
I am happy for the energies that just radiate from the Harris-Walz campaign. It’s a new dawn, a new day. Could not be happier.
choicelady
43 minutes ago
Polling is obsolete at this point in history. The science as it’s been takes the likely voter percentages from the last similar election, 2020 in this case, and does not include registration booms or political changes like Roe being killed and Trump declaring he’ll be a dictator.
AdLib42 minutes ago
Did you see Tyler Perry’s speech? He was great, but I went ballistic when he told the crowd that the Confederate fort near them was now HIS PROPERTY! Woo hoo!!!
choicelady
41 minutes ago
Ad – I was talking w Greg about that. It’s as rocky a ‘science’ as 1948 and “Dewey beats Truman” due to using telephones when MOST of America still didn’t have them.
choicelady
40 minutes ago
Yes, Harris-Walz are inspirational while the MSM, including WAPO’s cowardly refusal to issue an endorsement due to Bezos, have doen all they can to sanewash Trump while dissing and questioning Kamala’s cred.
AdLib39 minutes ago
Not every polling firm has cell phones that frankly are hard to access for ownership. They don’t keep up with new registrations, as you note. It’s all in flux, but they are NOT.
choicelady
39 minutes ago
CL – Haven’t seen that Tyler Perry video yet but heard about it. Very nice! I even enjoyed Charlemagne’s spanking of CNN and Anderson Cooper.
AdLib38 minutes ago
Charlamagne tha God smacked down Cooper on CNN. New world, guys – you gotta keep up.
choicelady
38 minutes ago
Yes!!! Just mentioned that!
AdLib38 minutes ago
I really did not know him, Charlamagne, but I loved his refusal to back down to Cooper. Cooper is pretty good, but he has hiccups in his courage. He just got owned on that.
choicelady
37 minutes ago
What is extra scary to me is the coalescing of the most evil billionaires working with Russia to turn the US into a new Russia with them as oligarchs.
AdLib36 minutes ago
Yup. One commentator on Twitter said that the real problem is their coalescing of bitcoin to undermine US currency. Not sure how to stop that, but it needs to be addressed.
choicelady
35 minutes ago
I find Cooper and all the MSM hosts as all lacking a piece of their spines because they know their owners are RW conservatives and that they only have so much leash to pull against. I don’t include Maddow or Lawrence in that.
AdLib35 minutes ago
CL – All this evil is coagulating around Trump. The fraud of Crypto, the rabid greed of sociopathic billionaires (many from apartheid South Africa), the neo Nazis, militias, religious extremists…it’s a hyper-toxic soup of the worst of humanity.
AdLib32 minutes ago
Ahh – reconnected. Whew. That was weird.
choicelady
31 minutes ago
What happened?
AdLib30 minutes ago
I don’t know – all of a sudden I was “reconnecting” but nothing actually reconnected, and I couldn’t write. So I gave it a breather, and now it’s fine.
choicelady
29 minutes ago
Weird! I just cleared the site’s cache in case that had something to do with it.
AdLib29 minutes ago
Who knows? Sunspots, black holes, cyberattacks, old computers. Anything is possible. I love the immediacy of computers but prefer the reliability of No. 2 pencils.
choicelady
28 minutes ago
I am encouraged that the courts have for the most part protected voters against Repub lawsuits to oppress them. But the crazy 5th declared today that votes mailed in on election day or days before can’t be counted is they haven’t been received on election day.
AdLib27 minutes ago
No. 2 pencils aren’t great at live chats when you’re not in the same room. And even then, they don’t make sense.
AdLib26 minutes ago
Ad – I saw that. The 5th is the black hole of justice. The Federalist Society view is that precedent, including fairly recent legislation, is of NO meaning anymore. The 5th C. has not a legal leg to stand on in this decision. Quite the opposite. And yet – here we are. Bet Mark Elias takes it directly to the 11th Appellate for reversal.
choicelady
26 minutes ago
So now we have a district court deciding to suppress Americans’ right to vote.
AdLib26 minutes ago
Pencils are only as good as the hands behind them, that’s for sure.
choicelady
25 minutes ago
How can Elias take a decision by the 5th Circuit to the 11th Circuit>
AdLib25 minutes ago
If it was based on LAW somehow, the 5th C would make sense, but it is a finding without ANY LAW AT ALL, and that’s the really scary part of this.
choicelady
25 minutes ago
I think it’s the 5th Superior to the 11th Appellate. I get names confused. But the 5th circuit is where Cannon is. The 11th Appellate is over them.
choicelady
24 minutes ago
CL – As we said, the RW is no longer a political party, they are a crime family that have no respect for the law.
AdLib24 minutes ago
That’s the part of this that really bothers me. The Leo Leonards and Federalist Society folks want to destroy precedent. Their FEEEEELINGS are what should, in their minds, drive decisions.
choicelady
23 minutes ago
I thought they were all circuit courts that heard appeals, the 5th and 11th I thought were peers who only handled cases in their geographic areas?
AdLib22 minutes ago
I thought any appeals of the 5th Circuit would have to go to the SCOTUS?
AdLib21 minutes ago
I agree that Harris should be bipartisan. I know, without question, she doesn’t actually mean selling out to the extremists. GOP? Fine. MAGA/cristofascists? No. So I’d like to see some serious work done on undermining the power of the RW over the courts, the failure of religious institutions to uphold the non partisan status for their tax exemptions. GO AFTER THEM because they are breaking the law.’
choicelady
21 minutes ago
Hey everyone sorry for being late but an ole friend from NM called
twilson117
21 minutes ago
Hey TW!
AdLib21 minutes ago
TW!!! How are you, dear friend?
choicelady
20 minutes ago
TW – what’s going on in NM?
choicelady
20 minutes ago
Doing fine CL
twilson117
20 minutes ago
Old friend called haven’t talked to him for a bit so just catching up
twilson117
19 minutes ago
If it’s the 5th appellate it would, but I’m pretty sure it’s the 5th circuit that goes to the 11th Appellate then to SCOTUS.
choicelady
19 minutes ago
No worries, TW.
AdLib19 minutes ago
Tw – that’s lovely! Where in NM is your friend?
choicelady
19 minutes ago
We used to work at the same company many years ago
twilson117
19 minutes ago
CL, here’s an article on it: “On Friday afternoon, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit handed down a shock decision declaring that states may not count ballots that are mailed by Election Day but received shortly thereafter. “
AdLib18 minutes ago
It’s nice to catch up. I’m starting to reconnect with people from my past. We still have the same interests and can talk.
choicelady
18 minutes ago
Looks like I will have to catch the Harris speech later as I was in the middle of that when he called
twilson117
18 minutes ago
Ad I saw that earlier that’s just for Mississippi right?
twilson117
17 minutes ago
Oh – it’s the court of appeals already? Then yes, that goes to SCOTUS. I don’t think they will uphold that. It affects every vote, not just liberals, and they have ruled on similar things a couple of years ago asserting post marks are enough. We shall see just HOW corrupt they are.
choicelady
17 minutes ago
CL yes it is, we used to close the local pub backi in the day.
twilson117
16 minutes ago
TW – I think the 5th Circuit includes TX, MS, LA and a couple of other states.
AdLib16 minutes ago
If they say that, the DeJoy problem intensifies. Then we really DO need drop boxes.
choicelady
15 minutes ago
CL – I have no faith in SCOTUS but pulling the rug out from under military members overseas like this would be an outrage.
AdLib15 minutes ago
Ad yes, but I was listening to that on Leagal Af at it was just for MS I believe I may be wrong on that but that is what I recall.
twilson117
15 minutes ago
Ad – that’s why I don’t think it will be upheld. Roberts apparently is stunned at public opposition to what he’s done. We shall see.
choicelady
14 minutes ago
Tw – I hope that’s true, but it’s a stupid ruling from the 5th.
choicelady
14 minutes ago
CL – Another bewildering Biden mistake, not pressing the majority now on the Postal board that are Dems to kick out DeJoy. I mean, why? Why has he left him there? He has a majority to get rid of DeJoy and yet left him where he could sabotage the election.
AdLib14 minutes ago
We only JUST got enough Dems in place. Just a couple of months ago. Biden had no power over any of it.
choicelady
13 minutes ago
TW – But until the SCOTUS weighs in, there will be lawsuits in every state Kamala wins stating that late votes have been counted according to the 5th Circuit.
AdLib13 minutes ago
Ad – it’s going to be a mess.
choicelady
12 minutes ago
CL – I don’t know if I buy that article about Roberts being “shaken” by the public’s rejection of his making the president a king. But maybe taking the vote away from servicepeople is a bridge too far in his gradual overthrow of our democracy.
AdLib11 minutes ago
Seems like the Repugs are finding ways to muck of the works with all these law suits
twilson117
10 minutes ago
CL – The excuse that Biden has no power is undermined by Trump commanding his board members to fire the existing Postmaster and putting DeJoy in.
AdLib10 minutes ago
That was one factor that Roberts was upset over, but he didn’t see our outrage at several other things, and he’s surprised. Surprise! WTF did he think would happen?
choicelady
10 minutes ago
Ad – but Trump did it lawlessly. You KNOW there are double standards.
choicelady
9 minutes ago
CL – That’s why we will need SCOTUS to weigh in on that decision in an emergency filing, we can’t go into election day with that poisonous ruling hanging over the country.
AdLib9 minutes ago
I think Elias is on this. Can’t keep up with all he’s doing.
choicelady
8 minutes ago
Ad that’s the problem with a den of snakes they’re always slittering around waiting their turn to strick.
twilson117
7 minutes ago
Tw – that’s a very apt analogy.
choicelady
7 minutes ago
CL – If Biden called the board members as Trump did and demand they throw out DeJoy, it would be just as legit.
AdLib7 minutes ago
Ad repugs have had a lot of time to figure out how to gum up the works.
twilson117
7 minutes ago
No – it’s NOT legit. That’s the whole limitation when you live by the rules.
choicelady
6 minutes ago
TW – Isn’t there an island all those Repub snakes should be sent to?
AdLib6 minutes ago
Ad – if there isn’t such an island, there SHOULD be!
choicelady
6 minutes ago
Ad yes there is
twilson117
5 minutes ago
CL – I don’t want Dems to adopt lawlessness but I don’t see how it would be illegal for Biden to share his concerns over DeJoy with the board members. They still make the decision. And at the same time, it’s hard to win a fight when only one side is playing by the rules.
AdLib5 minutes ago
Tw – I was telling Ad that I got about 2-3 hours of sleep last night. I am definitely fading out. This ‘you don’t sleep as well as you age’ thingy is really annoying. I am starting to be blurry eyed, so I’m dropping off.
choicelady
4 minutes ago
Ad doesn’t the board have the votes to kick him off?
twilson117
4 minutes ago
Ilha da Queimada Grande, more commonly referred to as Snake Island, is an island off the coast of Brazil in the Atlantic Ocean. The island became famous for its abundant snakes, hence the name “Snake Island.”
AdLib4 minutes ago
CL I know what you mean.
twilson117
3 minutes ago
Ad – Biden has NO authority on the Postal Commission, and the new Dem probably thinks, perhaps correctly, that replacing DeJoy now would be chaos. Ad – I love that as a place for MAGA pols to go!
choicelady
3 minutes ago
TW – Yep, Biden has had a majority Dem board for months yet DeJoy, who sabotaged the 2020 election, has not been removed. Insanity.
AdLib3 minutes ago
I’m off to drink ice water and try to get to sleep soon. See you guys next week. Anyone else shows up – please tell them HI for me.’
choicelady
2 minutes ago
Take care CL
twilson117
2 minutes ago
Looks like it’s just us give you a call in 5?
twilson117
a minute ago
CL – Getting rid of DeJoy would be getting rid of someone meddling with mail delivery. A temp postmaster could step in and nothing would be harmed. A lack of urgency and vision IMHO. DeJoy WILL contribute to chaos on election day. No excuse to keep him in.
AdLiba minute ago
Sounds good TW.
AdLiba minute ago
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