Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00 pm PDT. Hope to see you then!
AdLib2 hours ago
Hey Murph!
AdLiban hour ago
Hi…just us….huh?
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
So far, should perk up shortly. After all, what an amazing week! Not even a week!
AdLiban hour ago
Have you been hearing anything interesting out your way about Kamala?
AdLiban hour ago
What do you mean? Has something happened?
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Heh!
AdLiban hour ago
Just the Earth changing its axis.
AdLiban hour ago
My GOP “friends” are SO PISSED.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Seriously, the world has changed.
AdLiban hour ago
Hi TW
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Love it!
AdLiban hour ago
Hey all
twilson117
an hour ago
I like what you said in your email, Murph! They’re angry that now they’re stuck with the old senile guy!
AdLiban hour ago
Hey TW!
AdLiban hour ago
As the world (or the stomach) turns.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Well it seems the Repugs are having a total meltdown now that Harris is in the race
twilson117
an hour ago
Polls keep coming out showing Kamala ahead in MI, PA, and WI by a point or two but understanding the way polls under-represent Dems, that translates more like 4-5 points ahead.
AdLiban hour ago
There is definitely confusion in the ranks.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
And JD is not “cushioning” the blow.
AdLiban hour ago
Yes she certainly has Trump and everyone in a spin
twilson117
an hour ago
Vance provides no relief from the Trump that many dislike since he is so unlikeable.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Ad, I have a feeling that Frump will find some way to get him to drop out as more and more stuff keeps coming out about JD or whatever his real name is.
twilson117
an hour ago
Overconfidence is a trap so not counting the electors quite yet but with all the energy and momentum and hope on our side, Trump’s out of time to boost his numbers while Kamala should get a nice boost after the DNC.
AdLiban hour ago
Hey CL!
AdLiban hour ago
Good evening, gentlemen.
choicelady
an hour ago
Hi CL.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph things that JD said some time back are coming out and they’re not making him look good at all.
twilson117
an hour ago
Murph – I’m assuming you heard the meme about Vance and couches?
AdLiban hour ago
CL is in the house let’s get the party going.
twilson117
an hour ago
All – someone on twitter said, to JD, every couch is a loveseat. Says it all.
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad…I salute your caution (while still snickering in joy behind my napkin)
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
TW – I don’t think Trump will ever drop out, don’t forget, the only way he doesn’t go to prison is becoming president.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad JD brings no added value to the party at all.
twilson117
an hour ago
Tw – I have wine and popcorn. Let the good times roll!
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – Heh! Saw that! I made a pun above too!
AdLiban hour ago
Ad no Trump won’t but I think he will try to drop JD as JD making Trump look bad for picking him.
twilson117
an hour ago
Ad – anything anyone can say about JD is fine with me. The grottier the better.
choicelady
an hour ago
TW – Trump’s ego will prevent him from dropping Vance because doing so would be an admission of his being a fool and making the worst mistake in presidential election history.
AdLiban hour ago
Point of Interest my granddaughter and I had dinner with PPO it was good to see him.
twilson117
44 minutes ago
Around here Vance was hailed as an appropriate backstop for Trump….a guy who have the T Man’s back….but even the most enthused are less than happy now.
MurphTheSurf3
44 minutes ago
One of our homeless guys in the back said tonight Trump is looking to drop JD. I have to brag – these guys, all 16 we’ve housed, are now (with the ones still alive) great analysts and advocates for justice. They weren’t. They heard hubs and me. Now they are.
choicelady
44 minutes ago
Oh wow – TW, I’m so glad your granddaughter met PPO and you got to see him!!!
choicelady
43 minutes ago
Ad That could be but that same ego could cause him to come up with a reason to replace him with someone else as JD keeps making Trump look like a fool for picking him in the first place. But, we’ll see.
twilson117
43 minutes ago
Consider that historically, the last bump a candidate gets is their convention. Trump comes out of his attacking the wrong opponent, tapping the wrong man for his VP, and being contrasted with aq much younger, sharper, more likeable opponent. I know things could change but I can’t see how Trump gets a bump between now and the election. Kamala meanwhile had lots of room to grow, she’s only been a candidate for 5 days!
AdLib43 minutes ago
CL so am I
twilson117
42 minutes ago
Murph – read a horrific story in MO of a girl who got raped in a town mid state, and the whole town turned on HER because the rapists were athletes. She moved to Albany, Gentry County – my grandfather’s birthplace – and they burned her house down. MO sucks.
choicelady
42 minutes ago
TW – Sounds like such a fun time, the three of you having dinner together. Very cool!
AdLib42 minutes ago
And….as you all may recall, I worked the Obama campaign in three states…..and a lot of what is happening feels very Obaman.
MurphTheSurf3
41 minutes ago
Cl…yes that story says a lot about the Show Me state…all bad.
MurphTheSurf3
41 minutes ago
Murph – Very interesting. So Vance appears to be rejected in a bipartisan way, from both Dems and Repubs! What an incredible accomplishment, it’s never happened before with a VP pick.
AdLib41 minutes ago
Ad but Trump didn’t get the traditional bump. But as you’re pointing out Frump’s ego causes him to do stupid stuff and if he keeps JD well let me say I will not cry for him with he looses
twilson117
40 minutes ago
CL – And I assume they’re all registered to vote?
AdLib40 minutes ago
We all were in despair 9:30 CA time Sunday and exhilarated by 4pm same day. NEVER saw such turn around!
choicelady
40 minutes ago
Murph so the folks in your state are moving toward Harris???
twilson117
39 minutes ago
Cl times change…sometings very rapidly.
MurphTheSurf3
39 minutes ago
Ad – one of our ONLY rules is, you get your mail here, you register, you vote.
choicelady
39 minutes ago
TW – If Trump does replace him, Kamala and the Dems will hammer into the ground for proving he has horrible judgement and can’t even get a VP pick right.
AdLib39 minutes ago
TW….my state does not move toward any Democrat now-a-days.
MurphTheSurf3
39 minutes ago
Murph – yup. Change on a dime, give you 9 cents change.
choicelady
39 minutes ago
And demonstrates Trump’s lack of loyalty to those who support him…including voters.
AdLib38 minutes ago
Murph – I’m wondering how may will vote for Lucas without its registering a blip on polls.
choicelady
38 minutes ago
CL – That is a terrifying story!
AdLib38 minutes ago
Ad and that would be a bad thing
twilson117
37 minutes ago
Ad – Trump has horrible judgement, and picking the wrong guy isn’t easy to fix now the convention has ratified JD.
choicelady
37 minutes ago
CL Lucas is still well behind Hawley but less so month by month. He is a long shot with a better chance now, but an unlikely winner.
MurphTheSurf3
37 minutes ago
Ad – yup. That is life in the backwoods of MO. My friend Murph helped me with is from Springfield. She was a racial justice activist and had skinheads at her door. Everyone says now nice Springfield is. No. It’s not. It’s vile.
choicelady
36 minutes ago
Murph – That’s what it looks like to me. The joyful enthusiasm and confidence, all the volunteers signing up, over 100,000 new voters registered in 5 days, the record donations, this is a real and massive wave and it’s only growing. BTW, after all these Zoom meetings for different groups, there is a Zoom meeting for “White Guys for Kamala” on Monday which I will participate in.
AdLib35 minutes ago
Murph – I keep my fingers crossed, send money when I can. I REALLY want Hawley OUT, but…MO. I may have roots there. I have zero influence there.
choicelady
35 minutes ago
CL And Springfield IS what passes for Nice/Enlightened/Open here in MO.
MurphTheSurf3
35 minutes ago
Murph – yes. It does. And that’s true. And that’s why it sucks.
choicelady
34 minutes ago
CL – Never in my life have I had such a massive swing from despair to jubilation as we did on Sunday.
AdLib34 minutes ago
Ad – same here. I’m still reeling.
choicelady
34 minutes ago
CL – That is a fantastic rule!
AdLib34 minutes ago
I was a bit giddy….and ever so proud of Joe Biden. Then and how his handing his job now.
MurphTheSurf3
33 minutes ago
CL if I had to guess, I would say this was the plan all along, but you know I’m just messing around 
twilson117
33 minutes ago
I am unmoveable – you use our address. You VOTE. I won’t say HOW, but I WILL say here are the issues, here are those pushing the issues.
choicelady
33 minutes ago
Murph – I will hope that Kamala’s entry in the race could help bring out the women and black voters who could give Kunce the boost he needs.
AdLib33 minutes ago
Tw – we won’t really know for years what the truth is. Except, maybe, about the ‘assassination’. I think TRUMP hired the guy.
choicelady
32 minutes ago
I must admit that while I found the content of his Oval Office address re. his dropping out….the delivery reinforced my concerns about how age affects delivery.
MurphTheSurf3
32 minutes ago
Ad – I feel the same about women etc. and Lucas. He can ride coat tails of issues. I think people are SICK of Trump.
choicelady
31 minutes ago
CL – It will take a long time to try and turn around these morality deserts in Red States after we beat Trump and pass voting reforms that take away corrupt districts and voter suppression but it can happen.
AdLib31 minutes ago
My stand is that if you vote Trump massive changes in every aspect of our lives will occur from troops in our streets rounding up neighbors to losses of our basic social supports. Elect Kamala? You get to go bowling, to work, grocery shopping, and brunch. Nothing much will change with HER. EVERY DAMNED THING WILL CHANGE W TRUMP.
choicelady
30 minutes ago
CL…so simple, so clear.
MurphTheSurf3
29 minutes ago
CL as to the assassination attempt if that was planned and I’m inclined to agree and it comes out it was, then Trump is guilt of the ultimate crime.
twilson117
29 minutes ago
Murph – Giddy here too. And from what I’m seeing, the Dem voters have become unified and Happy Warriors which can’t be beat against Hateful Trolls. Which will a majority of undecided voters choose, that’s not such a hard thing to figure out.
AdLib29 minutes ago
I hate to be a spoiler but I am exhausted…..all this Happy Warrioring! Early meeting. Long day today….part of the price to be paid for the energizing of the Dem base…
MurphTheSurf3
28 minutes ago
CL – I love it! You’re deomonstrating your social responsibility by having them there, the least they can do is demonstarte theirs.
AdLib28 minutes ago
Ad – if liberals want to change Red states, we need people such as I who lived there to go to church socials, take covered dishes, and remind people liberalism is kind. THAT is EXACTLY how LGBTQ people did it in CA’s Central Valley – door to door, via our churches, face to face. They showed they were good neighbors and good people. We haven’t done enough of that. We need to do more.
choicelady
27 minutes ago
CL agree with you’re saying about the change that would take place if Trump was to win. Although it does seem more folks are waking up to what Project 2025 is all about.
twilson117
27 minutes ago
Good night, Murph – absolutely get the rest you need. Hugs, dear friend.
choicelady
26 minutes ago
CL – I have my doubts too about the assasination, many things don’t make sense. Many.
AdLib26 minutes ago
He Murph have a good night take care
twilson117
26 minutes ago
Thanks all. Nice to be saying good night here on a positive note with a cheering outlook.
MurphTheSurf3
25 minutes ago
TW – stupidest thing Trump did is release Project 2025 NOW. It’s appalling, and it’s doing him great harm. HOORAY!!!!
choicelady
25 minutes ago
Murph – I felt the same way, seeing Biden’s speech kind of confirmed, he wasn’t really able to turn the corner on his appearance of frailty
AdLib25 minutes ago
Murph: 
choicelady
25 minutes ago
Ad – I will never forgive those people who emphasized his slowness v his brilliance, but we are where we are.
choicelady
24 minutes ago
I think his last bout with COVID-19 drained him even more.
twilson117
24 minutes ago
CL – It really is a choice between Hope and Hell. Undecided voters are moderates, if they weren’t, they would already have chosen a candidate. And choosing between Hope and Hell, kind of an advantage for Hope.
AdLib23 minutes ago
A friend, a medical specialist n the aging process, told me that he has confidence in Biden’s mental acuity and processing and that challenging in electro motor nerve control in speech is a common phenomenon. On top of his game in one way and falling behind in the other.
MurphTheSurf3
23 minutes ago
CL – I would write to President Harris to hire you to run the Red to Blue campaign!
AdLib22 minutes ago
Ad not that I pay much attention to polls but the ones I have seen show Harris only a point or 2 points behind Trump. And she has the convention which I have no doubt she will get a big bump whereas Trump got nothing which is a rarity as you know
twilson117
21 minutes ago
Of note….I have been contacted by Obama fellow campaigners who are hoping to organize for Harris HERE!
MurphTheSurf3
21 minutes ago
Murph – that squares with my parents’ abilities. My father DID have Parkinson’s which is why I know Joe does not. But until he died, almost 90, he had all his marbles. Joe does, too, but is slower of speech, slower of gait. Trump is demented, physically impaired, living on speed, and mentally deficient since adolescence.
choicelady
21 minutes ago
CL – Right with you, we will elect all Dems as possible this year but starting in 2026, all those who disrespected and went after Joe and the Dem Party for that matter, will be voted against in primaries by me, you, and many other principled Dems.
AdLib21 minutes ago
CL….brilliant summary on both sides.
MurphTheSurf3
20 minutes ago
HOORAY, Murph – you the MAN!!! (Golf thing…)
choicelady
20 minutes ago
CL….LOL…..
MurphTheSurf3
20 minutes ago
CL….I suspect I will choose to fight for Harris by continuing to fight for Kunce.
MurphTheSurf3
19 minutes ago
My ex, who died last October, loved golf. I don’t, but I did pick up stuff along the way. That expression cracks me up. So I use it now and then.
choicelady
19 minutes ago
Murph – That’s good to hear. I can sense Biden’s acumen when he speaks, what I feel is that he’s struggling with energy and his troublesome stutter and memory in the respect of pulling the correct words out when desired. Not senile at all but physically challenged.
AdLib19 minutes ago
Murph – fighting for Harris by fighting for Kunce is perfect. PERFECT.
choicelady
18 minutes ago
Ad….I think your canary is spot on.
MurphTheSurf3
18 minutes ago
You guys really are marvelous…..oh, what the GOP quacks are missing.
MurphTheSurf3
17 minutes ago
All – I think my better side is disappearing as I hope, day in, day out, that the drugs Trump ingests will finally see him to his eternal rest.
choicelady
17 minutes ago
CL….I goo wonder about the chemical crutches he is on.
MurphTheSurf3
16 minutes ago
I was watching a speech Jamie Rasking gave I think earlier this year and he made a point of how the Republicans always say the Republicans this the Democrats that, but he quoted how FDR would say The Democracy
twilson117
16 minutes ago
Some is steroids – that’s how he ‘recovered’ after COVID. His docs said they could make him look energetic but would eventually kill him. He doesn’t believe that. GOOOOO steroids!
choicelady
16 minutes ago
TW – Consider the bumps to her popularity laying ahead for Kamala. The DNC in which she will have a much larger audience than Trump at the DNC because she will announce her VP, Obama will deliver an amazing speech, Biden will deliver a tearful farewell and passion for Kamala’s victory and Kamala will kick ass. She gets the last set of big bumps, Trump has none ahead, just the opposite. His sentencing in the Bragg case, his appeal will be defeated in the Engoron case and Jack SMith may have a couple of victories in appealing Cannon and getting the 1/6 case underway. Not to mention the unending damage Vance is doing.
AdLib15 minutes ago
CL….Trump on SPEED….love it.
MurphTheSurf3
15 minutes ago
TW – yes. THE democracy.
choicelady
15 minutes ago
Ad…..now that narrative is exciting . …Trumps descent into hell…well deserved.
MurphTheSurf3
13 minutes ago
CL – I definitely don’t want Trump to exit this plane of existence until he loses the election and is imprisoned. Then, he has my permission to go.
AdLib13 minutes ago
CL when you say it that way it places and entire differnt bent to the point one is making. Talking about the democracy of the country not political parties. Something to ponder I would think.
twilson117
13 minutes ago
I. have one other piece of news. I MAY be going to the convention! I am an alternate…..on this list because they needed to fill slots but now there seems to be a desire to put activists on the floor. I guess I qualify.
MurphTheSurf3
12 minutes ago
Ad – I hope she picks wisely. I LOVE Mark Kelly BUT he voted against the PRO act, and that’s NOT recoverable. Labor needs someone squarely on their side. I am, from funny Twitter bits, leaning to Walz. He’s a stitch and a man of the people. I love Pete – but it would hurt Biden to lose him. Shapiro – Jewish. And in this world, that’s another side energy. Half my family is Jewish, and even they don’t dismiss the power of anti semitism. She needs the LIGHTEST baggage she can find.
choicelady
12 minutes ago
Murph – And let me add one more problem for Trump, If Kamala gets the big bump expected from the DNC, Trump will be terrified that he could not only ose but go to prison which will make him frantic and I’d bet, say things that are even more crazy and his dementia issues could become much more pronounced.
AdLib11 minutes ago
CL….so sharp an analyst you are. Yes, Yoda is a Dem.
MurphTheSurf3
11 minutes ago
Ad I would think Harris could get a bump that Trump would be hard press to catch up to. Let’s not forget as much as people talk about Uncle Joe slowing down Trump is as well and he is ever prone to ramble about sharks windmills .
twilson117
10 minutes ago
In 2016 Kaine was a nice guy but too laid back. Walz isn’t . NICE GUY but forceful I think I’m hoping that’s her pick
choicelady
10 minutes ago
Murph – That would be amazing! I sure hope that happens and you’re at the DNC!
AdLib10 minutes ago
I never thought that Kaine was a good choice for Clinton….too passive which fed into all of those who thought of Clinton as a dominatrix.
MurphTheSurf3
9 minutes ago
Murph going to the DNC covention alright.
twilson117
9 minutes ago
OK – everyone needs to listen to Maddow’s second season of msnbc.com/ultra. Especially over the willingness of the extreme RW to do dastardly things. They MAY have killed LaFollette. They cause the suicide of Hunt. We are NOT done w extremism yet. Not.
choicelady
8 minutes ago
CL – If it’s not Kelly, and I wouldn’t count him out because he now says he’ll vote for the Pro Act and he does bring Gabby with him, I think Brashear and Buttigieg would be the top choices left. But whoever it is, she will have a great VP pick! All are great choices!
AdLib8 minutes ago
Love Maddow.
MurphTheSurf3
8 minutes ago
Ad – how can he vote on the ProAct since it’s not on the table? I am GLAD he said that, but will labor actually forgive him?
choicelady
7 minutes ago
Murph – I do, too. She’s awesome!
choicelady
7 minutes ago
Ad – I agree her choices are outstanding.
choicelady
6 minutes ago
CL – Buttigieg actually is polling best out of all of them…for what polls are worth. And he is incredible in every single interview he does. But I think Kamala tipped her hand today, referring to wanting someone with executive experience. Sounds like a governor to me. Any of them would be fantastic.
AdLib6 minutes ago
Well….this time I really do need to get to bed….but you. guys are worth staying awake for.
MurphTheSurf3
6 minutes ago
Ad as much as I like Buttigieg I don’t see that happening. At the moment my money is on Kelly
twilson117
6 minutes ago
Good night. More on the convention coming…I hope, maybe.
MurphTheSurf3
5 minutes ago
Murph – get rest. Your life is hectic, we none of us are young, so take care of YOU along the way. Hugs – ‘
choicelady
5 minutes ago
Murph – Glad we could coax you to chat a little longer. Rest well and dream of butterflies and Pres. Kamala!
AdLib5 minutes ago
Murph rest up you’ll need it when you go to the convention.
twilson117
5 minutes ago
Murh – With you on Kaine, terible choice, didn’t help Hillary one bit. Too bland and nothing and moderate. Like a piece of white bread dunked in milk.
AdLib4 minutes ago
Ad..what an image….a piece white bread dunked in milk! Brilliant.
MurphTheSurf3
3 minutes ago
Good night, Murph! Guys – I had my eye injection yesterday with a HORRIBLE reaction later. Huge pain, and exhaustion. I also need to boogie, not much sleep last night. All is well today, but I’m beat. Love to you all. SO GLAD you had dinner w PPO, TW. So GLAD you and I talked through last Sunday, Ad. Thank you both, all, love you! Good night!
choicelady
3 minutes ago
CL – Kelley is making a cleanup on Aisle 1. He now says he’d vote for it to remove it as an argument against him but you’re right, kind of irrelevant now.
AdLib3 minutes ago
Good night CL…I will waltz out the door at your side.
MurphTheSurf3
2 minutes ago
CL take care.
twilson117
2 minutes ago
See you later, CL! Rest and feel better!
AdLib2 minutes ago
Ad, back in the day, WELL before my time, we called that “milktoast”. Meant mediocre white people, too. Kaine is nice…but a nonentity.
choicelady
2 minutes ago
Tara!
MurphTheSurf3
a minute ago
TW – I doubt it will be Buttigieg but his polling numbers counter the concerns about him having a negative impact on the ticket. Even so, I think Brashear, Walz and Shapiro are the top contenders now, governors.
AdLiba few seconds ago
Up for a chat?
AdLibin a minute
TW, that is?
AdLibin a minute
Yeah give you a call in a bit
twilson117
in a minute
AdLibin a minute
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