Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PT. Hope to see you then!
AdLib3 hours ago
Sacramento is checking in! Hi, y’all!!!
choicelady
2 hours ago
Hey CL! Yo Sac!
AdLib2 hours ago
How are you doing? It’s a hot one down here today.
AdLib2 hours ago
Yo wonderful daughter!!! I am still floating on cloud nine over their Western Regional Championship.
choicelady
2 hours ago
Thanks so much!!!
AdLib2 hours ago
She and her team were incredible!
AdLib2 hours ago
Hot up here, Ad – 101. Summer always sucks. I remember around Sept. 2002 it was 112 here. You could NOT breathe.
choicelady
2 hours ago
Thank god and the Carrier family for AC.
choicelady
2 hours ago
No kidding. I was just thinking about the explanation for the population boom in the South many years ago, it was due to the proliferation of air conditioning!
AdLib2 hours ago
I’ve already started “summer utility hours” – raise AC temp at 4, hold your breath and don’t use energy until 8. Keeps blackouts and brownouts to a minimum’
choicelady
2 hours ago
So if we could sabotage all the AC in the South?
AdLib2 hours ago
Ad – AC was invented in Buffalo, NY. All of CA depends now on a gizmo made in the Rust Belt.
choicelady
2 hours ago
We’ve got solar so we contribute back about as much as we use.
AdLib2 hours ago
Ad – BLACK people would survive in the South. Had a long discussion w those who moved north. They don’t use it. White people do.
choicelady
2 hours ago
Ad – that’s the good way to go. But Southern whites would wilt. Southern Black people would carry on.
choicelady
2 hours ago
Then the solution to our nation’s problems is simple, Destroy all AC in The South.
AdLib2 hours ago
Ad – works for me!
choicelady
2 hours ago
Hey, they don’t even believe in science so they could just pray to Trump and it would stop being hot down there, right?
AdLib2 hours ago
Take it from me here? I move north. I’m not good w hot weather AT ALL.
choicelady
2 hours ago
You saw about Musk being a heavy drug addict?
AdLib2 hours ago
Ad – he’s supposed to be reincarnated, so if he doesn’t cool things off, maybe – MAYBE – they’d see him for the false prophet he is.
choicelady
2 hours ago
As far as extremes, I’d pick hot weather over cold weather.
AdLib2 hours ago
Ad – not a surprise about Musk. Now – where’d he get that black eye?
choicelady
2 hours ago
Ad – I’d do the opposite. I know how to exist in cold weather, but you strip down to your skin in hot weather? As good as it gets.
choicelady
2 hours ago
I think everyone in the South should take a clue from indigenous people and build UNDERGROUND. Only way to survive.
choicelady
2 hours ago
I wish I had given it to him but someone clearly smacked him.
AdLib2 hours ago
I’d sure like the backstory on that shiner.
choicelady
2 hours ago
Both extremes are tough but my preference is based on what would happen if electricity went out. Hot is bad, freezing to death I classify as worse.
AdLib2 hours ago
My take, especially from losing power here, is that w fireplaces and other resources, you can survive cold but not heat unless you have underground resources,
choicelady
2 hours ago
If Trump’s Big Bad Budget passes, those in the South won’t be able to afford AC anyway.
AdLib2 hours ago
Ad – SERIOUSLY
choicelady
2 hours ago
MOST of the homeless folks who die in the streets do so from heat, not cold.
choicelady
an hour ago
It’s coming. I think the drop in shipping from the original ‘Liberation Day” should be hitting stores and shops now, increased prices and less product. And the economic numbers came out, employment is of course down and so are corporate profits.
AdLiban hour ago
Change of subject – did PPO send you the photo of him and his lady friend at the Yacht Club gala? Our beloved PPO does clean up nice. She is gorgeous!
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad -life is going to suck a wad soon.
choicelady
an hour ago
I haven’t seen the photo. If he sent it on Twitter, I left there for good.
AdLiban hour ago
It sounds fantastic though, so happy for PPO!
AdLiban hour ago
I will send it. It’s a stunnign photo of two very nice people.
choicelady
an hour ago
I like nice people…if I hadn’t mentioned that before.
AdLiban hour ago
If Trump is blocked on tariffs, adding to Putin humiliating him, I think Trump will look weak and as such a loser to the rest of the world he’s been threatening with tariffs.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad – we knew that. I just forwarded it.
choicelady
an hour ago
Thanks!
AdLiban hour ago
That is why the TACO – Trump Always Chickens Out – meme is so popular. He’s a weenie.
choicelady
an hour ago
I can’t think of a greater humiliation, aside from impeachments, that any president has suffered that a sidelining of Trump and his tariffs would be.
AdLiban hour ago
Someone, forget who, said derision and mocking are the two best weapons against Trump.
choicelady
an hour ago
It’s no longer just TACO Tuesday, it’s TACO Today and Every Day!
AdLiban hour ago
Hooray for TACOs!!! Trump is a loser, a scaredy cat.
choicelady
an hour ago
Yes, I’ve heard that too and it makes sense. Tyrants rule by fear and humiliation undoes that.
AdLiban hour ago
Now Trump has turned on the Federalist Society because judges aren’t letting him be king.
AdLiban hour ago
He can’t survive with derision.
choicelady
an hour ago
How pitiful is it that the leader of the once most powerful nation is such a fragile little wuss?
choicelady
an hour ago
Even the Federalists draw the line at self-anointed royalty.
choicelady
an hour ago
What’sjust as pitiful is how newspapers, law firms, universities, etc. are all bowing to him despite that.
AdLiban hour ago
Three cheers for Harvard telling him to stick it.
choicelady
an hour ago
I can only imagine how huge and intense the SS protection of Trump is as so many in the country and world despise him now.
AdLiban hour ago
Poor baby – he brought it on himself.
choicelady
an hour ago
My wife thinks the odds are equal on whether Trump dies of poor health or is assassinated. Again, I do not wish death on anyone, just a discussion of odds.
AdLiban hour ago
Hey Murph!
AdLiban hour ago
Took me a while to get signed in.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
BTW, TW reached out to say he wouldn’t make it tonight.
AdLiban hour ago
MURPH!!! – I think you were “Guest 474” for a time.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph – Glad you made it…if this really is Murph!
AdLiban hour ago
Oh – sorry to miss TW!!
choicelady
an hour ago
Any news from the home front in MO, Murph?
AdLiban hour ago
Murph – how are YOU and how are things?
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph and Ad – the test yesterday for hub’s condition did NOT succeed. We are looking at surgery. Sigh.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph’s taking a break.
AdLiban hour ago
Oh no!
AdLiban hour ago
Well, it’s probably good.
choicelady
an hour ago
Why is that?
AdLiban hour ago
Yeah. Enlarged prostate. No really good alternative, Surgery will fix it. Side effects not known.
choicelady
an hour ago
Is it an outpatient procedure?
AdLiban hour ago
Life on catheters is painful and ups the potential for infection.
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad – you know, I am not sure. I will find out.
choicelady
an hour ago
No kidding! If this can solve the issue, that would be great.
AdLiban hour ago
Biggest issue for us is his horrid reaction to anesthesia of all types.
choicelady
an hour ago
But if he never has this happen again, it’s worth it.
choicelady
an hour ago
That is a concern then. I’ve always asked in surgeries, mine or family members, that anesthesia be just enough and to be watched closely.
AdLiban hour ago
Did you see this part of the NYT article on drug addict Musk? “Mr. Musk’s drug consumption went well beyond occasional use. He told people he was taking so much ketamine, a powerful anesthetic, that it was affecting his bladder, a known effect of chronic use. He took Ecstasy and psychedelic mushrooms. And he traveled with a daily medication box that held about 20 pills, including ones with the markings of the stimulant Adderall, according to a photo of the box and people who have seen it.”
AdLiban hour ago
Murph just texted – he can’t sign in. Can you help him?
choicelady
an hour ago
I will try!
AdLiban hour ago
I will wait. I’m totally cool.
choicelady
an hour ago
He’s here!!
choicelady
an hour ago
Hi Murph – you’re here!!!
choicelady
an hour ago
Hey Murph! You’re back!
AdLiban hour ago
Well…I am back…..screen kept freezing and then I had to log out and then log back in. Let’s see if I get to stay this time.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Hopefully all will be well now, Murph.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad…tried to text you as well but discovered that my contact list no longer has your phone number. This is clearly a plot by the techarchs
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Remember when tech was hailed as the time saving answer to all our problems?
choicelady
an hour ago
Yeah. Right.
choicelady
an hour ago
What are you talking about?
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
The futility of technology.
choicelady
an hour ago
HaH!
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph – This is Musk and Thiel’s handiwork! I will text you my phone number. You should have it from our conference call too.
AdLiban hour ago
Yeah – that is what I thought…..will be happy to have it back in my list.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Musk is a drug addict. Trump is a drug addict. RFK Jr. has been a drug addict. And Vance sounds like a drug addict.
AdLiban hour ago
My British friends are speaking of the “late, great American Empire” a lot recently.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
The only pleasure I’m getting out of tech is “Anonymous” who, I believe, is Liz Salandar come to life and screwing with the RW technoterrorists.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph – Much as I understand, I’d suggest Brits commenting on America as a late empire may not be in the best position to make that declaration.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad – how is the party of Nancy Reagan’s “Just Say No” now the big druggies of the Western World?
choicelady
an hour ago
I am not sure what any of that means but since both of you leave me in dust in matters tech I am not surprised.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Ad – Maybe the Brits are in the BEST position. Been there. Lost that.
choicelady
an hour ago
How ao Ad?
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
CL – I was wondering about what Anonymous was up to since they declared war on tyrants and Trump.
AdLiban hour ago
Murph – if *I* leave you behind on tech, you need a quill pen. I know NOTHING.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – With Trump and his fellow druggies, it’s now, “Just say no to just say no.”
AdLiban hour ago
Ad – they have been amazing. They have shut Musk down time and again.
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad, are you aware of CL’s role as my housing coach…she is brilliant
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Ad – well THAT makes sense!
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph – not at all. just practical.’
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph – Just saying, Brits know quite a bit about fallen empires.
AdLiban hour ago
Murph – we have very different circumstances, so I HOPE what I am saying is useful.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph – That is great news and you are one lucky guy! CL is brilliant!
AdLiban hour ago
I had a meeting today of my steering committee….and we spent the whole time looking at my notes….taken while CL and I were speaking.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
I’d love to claim I’m brilliant, but what I turn out to be is RESILLIANT. Every situation is new and requires different responses.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph – hope they’re useful!
choicelady
an hour ago
So, do either of you think that the US can be repaired after Trump is gone? Maybe not back to where it was but mostly repaired? Or will the damage be too profound?
AdLiban hour ago
Ad – I do think we can repair things AND learn from the weaknesses in law and policy what needs to be shored up.
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad…the Brits are a people well aware of the legacy of empire and they have paid a price but in the process have become stalwart in their defense of representative government and of globalism.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
CL – Being brilliant is one of the few benefits of living for a while on this planet. Some never learn, others become brilliant from their many life experiences and insights gathered.
AdLiban hour ago
I spent a month in England 1978. I carried a 1960s Britcom vision of them. It wasn’t like that, although there WERE moments of great delight. I don’t know where they are now. Can’t read them. But no one seems to laugh much anymore, a great loss, IMHO.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – A huge disappointment for me was when Biden and Dems were in power in 2021, they did nothing to install or strengthen guard rails after seeing Trump’s criminality in his first term including the attempted coup on 1/6.
AdLiban hour ago
Living in a red state I am quite taken by how little is spoken about the man in positive terms. The governor here, is emerging as a reformer and unifier. The tornado devastation here and the lack of meaningful fed response has resulted in a shift.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Ad – we didn’t have the votes for real change. Senate still had too few.If people ever want REAL change they have to vote in 60 or more Dems.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph – I like your Gov. Reality bites, and this is when the WH occupant is revealed. He will not find favor.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph – Some Brits, yes. But let’s not forget Brexit, Tory control for many years, and many other massive mistakes in their sovereignty over many years.
AdLiban hour ago
In 1978 much in the UK was unsettled.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
CL – The Brits were kings of comedy in those years.
AdLiban hour ago
Murph – it was. But pockets were still “old style” fun. Was there 1996, and it was much more glitzy, but it was too ‘American” for me.
choicelady
an hour ago
America has been a poor role model.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph – What do you think that shift and reformism will mean to MO?
AdLiban hour ago
Yes the Brexit years were a throwback and the suffering that ensued seems to have set the shift to a modern representative system that is thornily engaged with the Continent
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
CL – In a practical sense, you’re right of course but I didn’t see any bills even being attempted to be passed that would have built guard rails against a tyrant being in the WH.
AdLiban hour ago
Never quite recovered from being in a Bath pub next to two men having a lovely, engaging conversation – and undersanding not ONE word they said. That is my family origin, and whoa, Nelly locked OUT.
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad – nobody puts up bills in either house that absolutely cannot pass. NO TIME for symbolic anything.
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad…..Kehoe appears to be a “only results count” kid of guy and as a result he appears committed to a functioning two part state government allied with the cities (all of them) and the country.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph – Well, it kind of makes a difference that the fallout from Brexit crushed the UK economy. Hard to keep embracing a massive mistake after it proves it was a mistake.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad…..precisely..,live and learn.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
OK, dear friends – I’m fading fast. Long night last night, no sleep. I am dropping away. Love you both. See you next week! I hope REFRESHED!!
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – From watching all the wonderful Brit shows, comedies in the 70s and dramas more recently, I am pretty good at understanding Brits but some accents are way beyond me.
AdLiban hour ago
And I need to attend to tomorrow planning. ….. Ad…..looks like an early night for us.
MurphTheSurf3
44 minutes ago
Oh okay, if you need to get some sleep, rest well!
AdLib44 minutes ago
Good to hear your Gov seems to be reasonable.
AdLib43 minutes ago
Oh Ad you are still here
MurphTheSurf3
43 minutes ago
Unusual for a MO Gov.
AdLib43 minutes ago
I voted for him because the Dems put up a crazy person and she was crushed…even in the Dem areas.
MurphTheSurf3
42 minutes ago
Of course, I can’t stand our Gov now here in CA. He is awful on the whole. CL doesn’t like him either. I’m with her on being a fan of Pritzker who may run in 2028.
AdLib42 minutes ago
Was that Dem the Repub stalking horse you’ve mentioned?
AdLib42 minutes ago
What is wrong with your Gov….he appears to be a media sweetheart
MurphTheSurf3
41 minutes ago
No…..a legit candidate but a foolish idealist and doctrinaire
MurphTheSurf3
41 minutes ago
Newsom revealed who he really is, an unprincipled opportunist, by post-election, embracing Steve Bannon and other MAGAs claiming that we need to be able to talk with each other. Used to be, Americans didn’t chat with Nazis, they defeated them.
AdLib40 minutes ago
I am the only person showing in the chat list…odd….Oh my, Newsom has struck me as an opportunist and shallow. But what you say hear sinks his boat in my mind.
MurphTheSurf3
39 minutes ago
Foolish idealists don’t fare well in politics while Foolish Authoritarians do.
AdLib39 minutes ago
Good observation and frightening.
MurphTheSurf3
38 minutes ago
Murph – I liked Newsom for some time, even while CL didn’t but after the election, when he decided that his path to the WH was to position himself as appealing to MAGA as well as Dems, he lost me. You don’t try to buddy up with zombies to co-opt them, they’ll just eat your brain in the end.
AdLib36 minutes ago
As always you are a pithy word smith. Skewered.
MurphTheSurf3
36 minutes ago
Heh! Thank you my friend!
AdLib36 minutes ago
Well earned……
MurphTheSurf3
35 minutes ago
A new Trump gag has shown up hear. President Mayhem. I like it…captures it all.
MurphTheSurf3
35 minutes ago
I do think Pritzker will be a top tier candidate. And I do like Buttgieg but after Kamala losing, I think the Dem establishment will want a straight white male as the candidate.
AdLib34 minutes ago
Ad….yes playing it safe may be the only way to be able to focus the campaign on bringing down a traitorous autocrat.
MurphTheSurf3
33 minutes ago
Ah, like the Allstate commercial guy named Mayhem? Dems could make a very funny commercial parodying that kind of ad but using Trump instead.
AdLib33 minutes ago
They could but I would rather they present Mayhem as Very Seriously Destructive. Dangerous.
MurphTheSurf3
32 minutes ago
I am not happy that we are being reduced to having to pander to racists and sexists but we lost the most important election in our lifetimes because they abandoned the Dem Party. It’s very messed up but we have to take back power from these madmen.
AdLib32 minutes ago
Completely agree. I have become very unpopular in Dem circles because I blame the grass roots Dems for their failure to understand what you say very clearly.
MurphTheSurf3
31 minutes ago
As CL and I were discussing earlier in the chat, ridicule is one of the strongest weapons against tyrants. Apparently, voters discount when they’re told that someone like Trump is an existential threat to our country and democracy, they ignore it as exaggeration even though it wasn’t.
AdLib30 minutes ago
The dumbing down of the American electorate has us paying a terrible price.
MurphTheSurf3
29 minutes ago
I need to take a call here….next week…..I will be happy to have your phone number again.
MurphTheSurf3
28 minutes ago
Take care.
MurphTheSurf3
28 minutes ago
I’m very much on the Left but I am still pissed off at the Purist Leftists who attacked Biden and Harris during the campaign on Gaza, boasting about being the resistance and refusing to vote for either of them and now they’ve got what they voted for, the growing extermination of Palestinians in Gaza by a Trump supported genocidal maniac in Netanyahu. And Trump wants to open a resort on top of two million dead Palestinians.
AdLib28 minutes ago
Night Murph!
AdLib27 minutes ago
What you write is painful to read and horribly true.
MurphTheSurf3
27 minutes ago
It guts me.
AdLib26 minutes ago
The nighmare remains.
MurphTheSurf3
26 minutes ago
When they were doing that, disrupting Biden and Kamala events and NEVER protesting at Trump rallies, I got so pissed off.
AdLib26 minutes ago
True. I am just as angry with Dems I know who failed to vote at all….and others who chose Trump.
MurphTheSurf3
25 minutes ago
“Don’t you know that Kamala wants to help end the genocide? She said so in the ways she could so as not to whip up charges of anti-Semitism.” Yet those fools were so self-righteous, look what they’ve done to themselves.
AdLib25 minutes ago
Yes! Same here!
AdLib25 minutes ago
Yeah…I have had some very hard conversations with past political partners and friends. This is one of the reasons I got interested in creating a housing alternative here.
MurphTheSurf3
24 minutes ago
As TW wrote, People Are Stupid. And the selfishness and stupidity it took to ignore that he was a criminal/rapist/fraudster/sociopath because he promised to wave a magic wand and make egg prices lower, infuriates me. Those idiots won’t understand what electing Trump has meant until they are suffering.
AdLib23 minutes ago
So my proposition remains, we just have to wait patiently until all these idiots who voted for Trump to get lower egg prices have lost their jobs, homes, nest eggs, health care, etc. and are suffering in their own lives, then is when they will turn on Trump.
AdLib21 minutes ago
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