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AdLib7 days ago
So…my daughter’s team won the first game of a 2 out of 3 series to go to the college World Series but…they lost the other 2 so their season and long careers as softball players is over. We’re celebrating their amazing seasons and championship this year so I don’t know if I’ll make it here tonight but I will be back to always here at Vox starting next week. Thanks for understanding.
AdLib7 days ago
Hellow everyone just another fun day at the good ole Supreme Court Trump lost again.
twilson117
7 days ago
Ad – Ohhh… can’t decide how to feel now. YES! CHAMPIONS. I’m am sorry they’re not going to national, but this is SUCH an amazing victory all on its own!!!
choicelady
7 days ago
TW!!
choicelady
7 days ago
TW – I’m sort of losing track, but I believe that is 5 defeats in 5 SCOTUS cases. Does NOT bode well for The Don.
choicelady
7 days ago
The more he looses the happier I am
twilson117
7 days ago
TW – totally agree!!!
choicelady
7 days ago
I see Ad’s daughter’s team didn’t make it all the way I’m sure they’re sad about that but it looks like they had a great season.
twilson117
7 days ago
Did you hear that yesterday it was 9-0 t hat people CAN sue cops in police shootings AND that the circumstances around the shooting are evidence. This FLAT out stops Trump’s “immunity” pledge to cops that they can do anything and get away with it.
choicelady
7 days ago
TW – yes, they won’t go national, but their Western Regional championship is AWESOME!!
choicelady
7 days ago
I didn’t see that been a bit busy with some of writing projects but that’s a good thing.
twilson117
7 days ago
His daughter will have bragging rights forever, even if she and her teamates did win the nationals. It’s still a big thing.
twilson117
7 days ago
TW – I think it may be the linchpin. If cops have no immunity for everything, they will be loath to engaged in oppression.
choicelady
7 days ago
TW – I can’t be happier for Ad’s daughter and her team.
choicelady
7 days ago
CL so this 9-0 that cops can be sued in police shootings that sounds like bye-bye to the immunity they hid under for years.
twilson117
7 days ago
That’s correct, TW, and it means Trump’s desire to make them immune in ALL things is totally off the table.
choicelady
7 days ago
Can you tell me more on that ruling?
twilson117
7 days ago
That is about all I know other than the fact that the evidence around the encounter that led to a shooting IS EVIDENCE and important. Lawsuits have been hampered by failure to deal with what came BEFORE the shooting. Now it matters. Now it’s evidence. Now you can sue the cops and get some justice for families. It ALSO means Trump cannot give total immunity, and cops ARE liable. ONLY shocker in this case actually is the vote: 9-0
choicelady
7 days ago
Was that a ruling that came down today? If so can look it up. It’s about time the courts reversed that considering all the wrongfull shootings that have happen Breonna Taylor for example.
twilson117
7 days ago
Today’s ruling on use of the Alien Enemies Act to remove habeas corpus, was 7-2. Do NOT need to tell you who the 2 were.
choicelady
7 days ago
Tw – exactly. Don’t know if it came early today or yesterday, but yup – it’s recent and GOOD.
choicelady
7 days ago
I have a copy on my desk I think it will be good reading
twilson117
7 days ago
TW – this little group of our consists of the only non lawyers I know who LIKE reading court decisions!
choicelady
7 days ago
We may be certified geeks, but we wear the mantle well.
choicelady
7 days ago
CL Altio I expected Kavanaugh I didn’t I thought for sure it would be Thoma
twilson117
7 days ago
Yes, I like to read the decisions to see how they got there it doesn’t come from any desire to be a lawyer, just informed and to she how they came to their decisions.
twilson117
7 days ago
I read it WAS Alito and Thomas. Wow – don’t like K. did that. My SIL worked with him pre-SCOTUS and LIKED him. He goes to her church and eats at one of our family’s fave DC area restaurants. I am not happy to learn this.
choicelady
7 days ago
The age of the Geek so says Hardison from Leverage
twilson117
7 days ago
TW – one can do worse than to be a geek.
choicelady
7 days ago
I dodged a bullet some weeks back at my BIL’s funeral. WAS a chance K would have been there. He was not.
choicelady
7 days ago
I have it right here on my desk will read it later as I said I was suprise at Kavanaugh and not Thomas. Trump and his supporters just want to destroy the democracy they claim to love.
twilson117
7 days ago
TW – seriously. Kavanaugh is unreliable.
choicelady
7 days ago
May he had one too many beers.
twilson117
7 days ago
I will gently try to probe my SIL on this. She knew him pretty well. She WANTS to like him, but…
choicelady
7 days ago
TW – 
choicelady
7 days ago
I find it baffling how some of these Justices seem to want autocracy, why?
twilson117
7 days ago
Good point. WHY?
choicelady
7 days ago
But the flip is that overall, other than the consistency of Alito, civil rights and human rights seem to matter. Not always. Not consistently, but they do matter.
choicelady
7 days ago
What delightfully surprises me is the fidelity Barrett has to the textual law. She’s bad on INTERPRETATION but good on textualism. I am surprised. Delightedly but surprised.
choicelady
7 days ago
Civil rights do matter I am in full agreement with that. But, some on the SC seem not to think so. That is what I find baffling. This orginalism bull, is utter nonsense.
twilson117
7 days ago
Originalism would weigh heavily on the side of civil rights. I studied colonial law c. 17th-18th C. and civil rights were central. I am going to write on it.
choicelady
7 days ago
I read and have microfilm on MA colonial laws. It’s amazingly progressive that got eroded after nationhood. But it was in place 1789.
choicelady
7 days ago
Interpertation of doucument written 200 years ago can be difficult that I understand.
twilson117
7 days ago
If one has the context, it changes things. I will whip up an article on it for Ad and us.
choicelady
7 days ago
Context does help. But, I think for some people who sit on the SC they allow their personal bias get in the way along with their egos thinking they know better. And damn it, some common sense as well.
twilson117
7 days ago
To change the subject, I have a gorgeous photo of PPO at his Yacht Club ball standing with the most gorgeous Black woman in a stunning red dress. He looks amazing in his tux, she in that dress. I didn’t ask but hope there’s more than just a date going on here.
choicelady
7 days ago
Alito knows no history. Thomas is a dork. Can’t read the others, but originalism in context changes the world.
choicelady
7 days ago
I am going to miss seeing his this year.
twilson117
7 days ago
Say more on orgiinalism in context
twilson117
7 days ago
Agreed. I love him, and this is sad. His gov’t advised against his coming here. How creepy is THAT?
choicelady
7 days ago
Given what is going on it makes sense.
twilson117
7 days ago
TW – I will. It’s a long, complex issue. I will post to Ad this coming week.
choicelady
7 days ago
TW – I agree. For HIS safety, it’s best to stay away.
choicelady
7 days ago
Ok look forward to that.
twilson117
7 days ago
choicelady
7 days ago
In way I have a bit of an understanding of what you are saying, I’m doing some research on a certain historical figure, comparing him to a current person and I can see where I have to check myself at times base on some of the things I am reading about this person. But, other sources I check confirm some of my thoughts.
twilson117
7 days ago
Life was very different in other eras, and we struggle not to impose 21st C. vibes on people from different times. They are NOT the same.
choicelady
7 days ago
Can you say about whom you are writing?
choicelady
7 days ago
You are correct
twilson117
7 days ago
Tom Dublin wrote of the Lowell Mill girls early 19th C. as if they were liberated women of today. Dumb.
choicelady
7 days ago
Well I looking at this Greek by the name of Alcibiades in a comparision to Musk.
twilson117
7 days ago
Fascinating!!! I surely know Musk and know the Alcibiades but never thought to compare them.
choicelady
7 days ago
Will LOVE to see what you have found!
choicelady
7 days ago
AD!!!
choicelady
7 days ago
Hey!
AdLib7 days ago
Well think about it, they have similar characteristics in a number of ways.
twilson117
7 days ago
Hey back atcha
choicelady
7 days ago
Hey Ad
twilson117
7 days ago
TW – I know almost nothing of Alcibiades.
choicelady
7 days ago
Just here for several minutes so I could say hi, will be driving back to LA.
AdLib7 days ago
Where are you now?
choicelady
7 days ago
In a manner of speaking he was the Musk of his time. Rich, brash, thought he knew everything was smart, but fickle for a certain point of view similar but still fleshing it out it will take a while but I will get there.
twilson117
7 days ago
So will all restaurants that use the phrase “86” now be sent to El Salvador?
AdLib7 days ago
Ad – SCOTUS would smack that down.
choicelady
7 days ago
I’m near San Diego. About a 2 hour drive.
AdLib7 days ago
TW – context. The context of time and space matter.
choicelady
7 days ago
Ad well, seems to have gotten Comey in trouble
twilson117
7 days ago
Ad – that’s not TOO bad. I am sorry they’re not going on, but I am honored to know your daughter and see her championship!!!
choicelady
7 days ago
No judge would allow the BS case against Comey to last long. Done in Summary Judgement.
AdLib7 days ago
TW – I have worked w people who use “86” all the time. It just means, this is done and over. Get RID of it. Nothing lethal about it.
choicelady
7 days ago
Ad – I’d think so. Stupid administration of thin-skinned white boys.
choicelady
7 days ago
Thanks CL. Very emotional for both the players and parents afterword but lots of laughter and happiness at the restaurant. This chapter of their lives has ended, new ones are about to begin.
AdLib7 days ago
CL it’s work in progress doing my research so I have something down the road and will be posted here on the Planet when I get it done but it is down the road. Also working on a Stephan Miller piece just finished reading Hate Monger that a-hole is a piece of work
twilson117
7 days ago
All day today #47 ranted about Swift and Springsteen. What adult DOES that?
choicelady
7 days ago
MAGAS and various companies pushed shirts and hats that said “86 46” when Biden was president. This is just part of the attempt to frighten anyone from speaking against Trump.
AdLib7 days ago
Ad – I am so glad they all can look forward and not back. They had a MAJOR victory. The future is glorious for them.
choicelady
7 days ago
Ad did you read about the man who bought his wife a Trump watch and it misspelled his name, it left the t off it says rump gotta love it.
twilson117
7 days ago
Ad – well, ICE showed up at the home of a Black pastor in the South over his social media critique of Trump. I am definitely in that category. We have a rule – do not open the door after 9 pm. Talk through a window.
choicelady
7 days ago
Tw – I did see it!! Rump. GREAT product control. NOT.
choicelady
7 days ago
TW – too funny!!
choicelady
7 days ago
Ad he deserves it, as far as I’m concerned
twilson117
7 days ago
Trump had huge losses the last two days. HUGE.
choicelady
7 days ago
He can’t lose enough as far as I’m concerned
twilson117
7 days ago
TW – AMEN!
choicelady
7 days ago
Indeed CL, they are champs!
AdLib7 days ago
Ad the internet can be spotty while you’re on the road.
twilson117
7 days ago
Ad – They ARE!!
choicelady
7 days ago
Can we all spell police state??
twilson117
7 days ago
TW – Yes, saw the Rump watch, it has an alarm that never stops.
AdLib7 days ago
Ad – do you take the 405 north into the valley? Seems better than 5.
choicelady
7 days ago
TW – that’s what the “you can sue the cops” ruling just STOPPED
choicelady
7 days ago
For Trump to invoke a police state he had to give total immunity. NOW he cannot!!! Cut the legs right out from under him.
choicelady
7 days ago
CL – 5 to the 405. Not too bad. And BTW, I should be leaving now so thanks for being here tonight despite my limited appearance but the upside is that I’ll be here from now on, on time. Have a great weekend all and see you next Friday!
AdLib7 days ago
So, my dear friends, Greg wound up in the ER early Monday morning w a fairly serious urinary blockage. I need to keep tabs on him. Doc visit Monday on removing the catheter. He is NOT a happey camper. Ad – drive safely and get home in one piece. We love you. I’m off, too, TW. Hugs to you both.
choicelady
7 days ago
Take care CL
twilson117
7 days ago
Bye for now!
AdLib7 days ago
He AD since you’re on the road I’m going to sign off have some reading to do so drive safe will catch you later.
twilson117
7 days ago
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