Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PT. Hope to see you then!
AdLib3 hours ago
Hey
twilson117
an hour ago
Hey TW! How’s it going?
AdLiban hour ago
Ok feeling a little under the weather
twilson117
an hour ago
Sorry to hear that. Like a cold?
AdLiban hour ago
Yeah something along that line.
twilson117
an hour ago
How are you doing
twilson117
an hour ago
That could explain why I can’t seem to finish the article I’ve been trying write.
twilson117
an hour ago
I’m okay. Just disappointed Trump didn’t pick me to be AG.
AdLiban hour ago
Sure could, when you’re not feeling well, it’s hard to concentrate to write.
AdLiban hour ago
Oh hell we all know why he didn’t do that, Trump would be in jail without a trial with a lot of crawling hissing creatures around him wanting to make friends with him. 
twilson117
an hour ago
Someone needs to build a prison on Snake Island.
AdLiban hour ago
No need just drop him off and let nature take its course.
twilson117
an hour ago
His cellmate could be a cobra.
AdLiban hour ago
Well we’ll start with that
twilson117
an hour ago
I am unable to wrap my head around the fact he will be back in the WH I just can’t do it.
twilson117
an hour ago
Evening, all!
choicelady
an hour ago
It’s kind of unreal.
AdLiban hour ago
Hey CL!
AdLiban hour ago
CL how are you
twilson117
an hour ago
He Ad and TW – grand to see you!
choicelady
an hour ago
Same here, CL!
AdLiban hour ago
Tw – I am fine. Ad is helping my organization get email improvement, and I think I drove him bonkers today. So the question more is – how is AD????
choicelady
an hour ago
CL he’s tough the can handle it.
twilson117
an hour ago
My wife is naming each of Trump’s cabinet picks as a Batman villain and describing DC as Gotham City. I’d just tweak it to call it Arkham Asylum, the criminal asylum..
AdLiban hour ago
He probably can, but my computer is SO old and funky, it’s just NOT reliable.
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad like the way she is thinking who she pick as The Joker?
twilson117
an hour ago
Ad – I LIKE the way you and she think!
choicelady
an hour ago
Hey CL, as a computer nerd, none of the tech work really bothers me, I enjoy solving things. Now, how do I solve 4 years of Trump?
AdLiban hour ago
Ad – well, PPOV is a start for solving Trump. So is every one of us who is a decent person.
choicelady
an hour ago
TW – She said Trump is the worst of them all, the sociopath Joker.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad we keep doing what we’re doing but are you thinking about something bigger?
twilson117
an hour ago
Ad Trump as the Joker hmmm, that’s tough
twilson117
an hour ago
I would have tapped Elon as the Joker.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – Of course I agree but I think what may be a start of a strategy is to lobby our state governors and reps to stand against Trump, Repub Congress, and SCOTUS extremism and uncostitutionalism. If ever there was a time for Dem states to rally together in civil disobedience, it’s now.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad the Joker was pretty smart Trump is an idiot in my opinion but I can be persuaded
twilson117
an hour ago
Ad – I do think resistance begins with the states. NOT the counties – my long experience w the implementation of policy is that what we pass in the Legislature lives or dies w the counties.
choicelady
an hour ago
You both make the same points I did with my wife. I thought Joker wasn’t the right fit for Trump since Joker is a maniacal genius while Trump is just maniacal. Hmm…maybe Clayface?
AdLiban hour ago
Ad I see Trump more as Peguin he waddles around like one and craps all over the place just like real peguins do
twilson117
an hour ago
Counties are corrupt or amazing. I have little blanket faith in them.\
choicelady
44 minutes ago
TW – makes sense though the Penguin LOOKS like Rudy.
choicelady
44 minutes ago
You think Trump knows or cares that he’s being played by Elon, Thiel, JD and others?
choicelady
43 minutes ago
CL – Agreed, we need state government to stand against Trump and the MAGA tyranny. If Trump and the MAGA Congress try to outlaw abortion in all states, as I think they will, CA needs to simply refuse to enforce that, kidnapping immigrants for concentration camps, etc. I know it will drive Trump furious and wanting to get revenge on states for defying him but that seems the only pasth.
AdLib42 minutes ago
Will Trump even bother to show up to be sworn in? He’d demanding things such as recess appointments that he is NOT qualified to have.
choicelady
42 minutes ago
He’s. Not He’d.
choicelady
42 minutes ago
I know I plan on sleeping on the day of the inaugration
twilson117
41 minutes ago
Trump can refuse us fed dollars, but he’s killing the programs anyway, so…who cares?
choicelady
41 minutes ago
Penguin is also too clever a villain to be applied to Trump. It should be a dumb, brute force character like Bane or Clayface. After all, Trump is our Bane.
AdLib40 minutes ago
Tw – If I were up that way inauguration day, we’d go have waffles.
choicelady
40 minutes ago
Ad – I’m not up on Batman sub characters, but this sounds right.
choicelady
40 minutes ago
CL I would be up for that
twilson117
40 minutes ago
I’m with both of you, I will not be watching the inauguration, I have towash my hair that day.
AdLib39 minutes ago
Ad – I have to mow our lawn. Of which we have none.
choicelady
39 minutes ago
Let’s ALL go out for waffles!!!
choicelady
38 minutes ago
Ad I don’t remember Clayface. But most of the bad guys in Bataman land are way to smart for Trump six ways from Sunday.
twilson117
38 minutes ago
TW – I can’t imagine a Batman character that is NOT smarter than Donald.
choicelady
38 minutes ago
CL – I’m just impressed that my wife knows so many Batman villains. I’m an old comic book fan and she’s not into it really but she’s impressing me with her knowledge of the villains.
AdLib38 minutes ago
CL even all the underlings are smarter that Trump
twilson117
37 minutes ago
I’m impressed with her knowledge, too!
choicelady
37 minutes ago
TW – rocks are smarter than Trump.
choicelady
37 minutes ago
CL agree with that
twilson117
37 minutes ago
Clayface…and he’s orange too!
AdLib36 minutes ago
Ad – you NAILED it!
choicelady
35 minutes ago
Clayface is made of clay, he has no brain and a sloppy body type.
AdLib35 minutes ago
Ad Okay in my defense I’ve never see that one before. but that might be right around the time I moved away form comics to other forms of literature but I would have like to have read one with that character
twilson117
34 minutes ago
Ad no brain and sloppy body type sounds and looks like Trump to me
twilson117
33 minutes ago
Ad shoe strings are smarter than Trump
twilson117
33 minutes ago
Clayface IS Trump. Perfect. TW – shoe strings ARE smarter.
choicelady
31 minutes ago
TW – Clayface is actually an old time villain but it used to just be a villain who could disguise himself to look like another person. They reinvented him to be literally made out of a clay-like substance due to a chemical accident. Any chance Trump could tour Ace Chemicals and fall into a vat that turns him into a pile of clay? Oh wait, he already is one.
AdLib31 minutes ago
Ad yes but the pile isn’t clay
twilson117
30 minutes ago
TW –
AdLib30 minutes ago
I don’t want Trump to die in any way that sustains rumors of assassination. I want him to have a complete meltdown, humiliate himself publicly, and then croak.
choicelady
30 minutes ago
TW – 
choicelady
29 minutes ago
CL he’s already done that.
twilson117
29 minutes ago
It would help if the Press would report that
twilson117
28 minutes ago
Tw – then he’s ready to go. I’ll take peacefully in his sleep. But then we have JD, and he’s WORSE
choicelady
28 minutes ago
So CL, is there anyway we could reach out to Newsom’s office to get heard about the need for him to align with other Dem states in a Bue State Resistance movement to push back against Trump’s fascist acts?
AdLib28 minutes ago
Ad – I believe this is “in the works” as they say. Every Blue state is on board w a general agenda of civil rights for everyone, no compliance with the Orange One.
choicelady
27 minutes ago
CL – Ideally, Trump topples over on top of Vance and kills two birds with one Whopper?
AdLib27 minutes ago
I’m for setting up a pool on how many days he spends golfing compared to actually doing work in the WH and the money get donate to a worthy cause.
twilson117
26 minutes ago
Ad – from your lips to the Big One’s ears.
choicelady
26 minutes ago
TW – good idea. Those are betting issues worth notice.
choicelady
26 minutes ago
CL – I did see Newsom arranged a meetup with Dems in the Legislature to discuss the way forward and how to protect rights in the state against Trump. AT the same time, it would be a good idea for Dem governors to be connecting with each other on combined strategies to fight against Trump’s decrees,
AdLib25 minutes ago
Both are apparently happening. CCC and CCI have written to him asking to be part of the action.
choicelady
24 minutes ago
Ad Texas always talks about it’s tenth adm. rights so I agree the Dems should be doing the same thing and tell Trump and his nutty idiot friends to go pound sand
twilson117
23 minutes ago
Newsom, Whitmer, Prtizker etc. appear to be in conversation. All on the same page.
choicelady
23 minutes ago
Tw – we agree. We need to invoke the 10th now as never before.
choicelady
23 minutes ago
TW – You know my take on that, the last thing Trump wants to do is work. He’ll be gofing a lot to divert tax dollars into paying exorbitant rates for rooms and golf carts. And he’ll have Musk act as president while he holds big parades in his own honor. He just wants the glory of being president, he won’t work at anything aside from greasing his ego.
AdLib22 minutes ago
Ad four years of this a-hole will be extremely difficult to take
twilson117
21 minutes ago
Ad – he’s not at all fond of Eldon, but he’s glad he’s on board anyway. Elon will do all the work – illegally since he’s not in gov’t – and Trump will golf.
choicelady
21 minutes ago
CL – That is great news! Hope CCC hears back soon. I know Newsom and all have got to be in many urgent meetings right now.
AdLib21 minutes ago
The BIG meeting is Dec. 2. We got our letter in this week. Hope we get included.
choicelady
20 minutes ago
TW – Abbott in TX has refused to follow Biden’s EOs and SCOTUS decisions. So the precedent already exists for states to ignore presidents and the courts. Why not have Dem states do the same but in a tighter alliance.
AdLib19 minutes ago
Ad
twilson117
19 minutes ago
CL – Where did you hear about those govs being in conversations? It makes a lot of sense, just wondering how concrete that is.
AdLib18 minutes ago
Ad Texas is the state I had in mind they are always flouting the 10th when the don’t like a government decision they still think they’re above the constitution.
twilson117
18 minutes ago
Ad – just over half the states are Blue. I think the Blue Line will hold.
choicelady
18 minutes ago
CL – Please keep us informed about that meeting (which I hope CCC will be a part of).
AdLib18 minutes ago
Ad – on Twitter and Blue of course. References by Pritzker (I think) to ongoing conversations among them about state’s rights, etc.
choicelady
17 minutes ago
Ad do you think Trump will try to pull all the money Biden allocated for the states in his actual infrastructure days
twilson117
17 minutes ago
Ad – we won’t be IN the meeting Dec. 2. It’s the Gov and Legislature. But they are making decisions on issues, and on funding allies – and we want to be one of those allies.
choicelady
16 minutes ago
TW – Yes, I saw your mention of TX and the 10th, just built on that. You’re right, it’s already been going on but not as massively and organized with other states as I hope Dems will be.
AdLib16 minutes ago
Tw – that infrastructure money was a BIG question w me. The projects are half or less done. Does Trump pull the funding and kill them? Unclear.
choicelady
15 minutes ago
CL – That’s good to know. Hope this happens and is done aggressively. Obviously, we’re not blathering about secession like Repubs when they get upset, we’re talking about unity and a coalition standing up for civil rights, democracy and the Constitution.
AdLib14 minutes ago
Ad – yes, coalition. Though I, personally, am NOT ruling out annexation of several states by Canada. I’d love that, frankly.
choicelady
13 minutes ago
Cl was Pete B on O’Donnell talking about it and you’re right he indicated a lot of stuff is in the pipeline or have started, but Trump is such a low life scum bag I see him trying to take credit for that and I hope the Dems will stand up tell him to pound sand
twilson117
13 minutes ago
TW – Yes, I think Trump will do everything he can to take revenge on the states that stand against him. That is when his overreach will backfire against him and Repubs and protests could grow across the nation.
AdLib13 minutes ago
CL – Thanks for explaining that. So basically, a strategizing meeting on agenda and how to allocate resources and to whom in this upcoming battle to retaing our democracy.
AdLib12 minutes ago
Ad as we’ve discussed on this platform the people have a tendency to wake up when it’s too late
twilson117
11 minutes ago
CL – Heh! Canada is too nice to annex anything.
AdLib10 minutes ago
TW – Yep, my proposition is that Americans are generally too lazy and adverse to change until they start suffering.
AdLib9 minutes ago
Tw – I saw on Meidas Touch the Dearborn, MI Muslims now BEGGING Biden to save Gaza. I’m sorry. Too effing late. Vote for Trump, live w it. Yes, genocide will begin, Gaza and the West Banks are GONE, and YOU, Dearborn MI Muslims, abetted it.
choicelady
9 minutes ago
I am stockpiling food. I can’t believe we are here, but with tariffs and loss of farmworkers, there is fresh hell ahead. So that’s what I’m doing.
choicelady
8 minutes ago
TW – Project 2025 was designed to rapidly destroy our democracy and I have no doubt they will hot the ground running. The theory is so Republican, launch a dizzying array of destruction and corruption of our democracy and against our rights so that people are so overwhelmed, it’s hard to stay focused on any one outrage.
AdLib8 minutes ago
CL I’ve been watching a lot of Meidat Touch lately they have their act together, but I didn’t happen to see that one
twilson117
7 minutes ago
That was out today, TW. I will see if I can refind it and send the link via email.
choicelady
7 minutes ago
Ad yeah P2025 is definitly a plan for autcratic form of governance, its just that most of the people are thinking ‘it can’t happen here.’
twilson117
6 minutes ago
The upshot, rudely, is wtf DID YOU THINK WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, jerks?
choicelady
6 minutes ago
My beloved friends – again, falling asleep typing. I need to go. If anyone else joins in please give my love. Tell PPO to keep his advocacy for refugee Americans open if he would? Love you both. I really have to lie down. Absolutely exhausted today. See you soon.’
choicelady
4 minutes ago
CL no need I will most likely catch it tomorrow, I’ve become rather addict to the channel, I’ve stopped watching regular news and go to them as they tell the truth
twilson117
4 minutes ago
CL take care
twilson117
4 minutes ago
Ad I’m going to bug out as well. But you make sure you get some rest I know you need it.
twilson117
3 minutes ago
CL – I feel the same way. It will be very hard for Muslims, Latinos, young black men, etc. who voted for Trump or against Biden to gain much support or sympathy when this white nationalist theocracy destroys what they care about. They wanted to get even with Biden for not doing everything they wanted. Those who voted for Trump out of ignorance or virtue signaling deserve to be the first to suffer the consequences of their actions. Again, not entire groups of people but the upset corner of my mind would rather see them get what they asked for before we have to deal with this insanity that we fought so hard against.
AdLib2 minutes ago
Thanks TW. You feel better and have a nice weekend!
AdLiba minute ago
Thanks take care.
twilson117
a minute ago
You too!
AdLiba minute ago
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