Vox Populi, our weekly live chat aboput the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hope to see you then!
AdLib6 hours ago
Hey CL! How are things?
AdLib2 hours ago
Well….I’m here
choicelady
2 hours ago
Hey, Ad – how are YOU?
choicelady
2 hours ago
That’s a good thing! Still on Twitter?
AdLib2 hours ago
Doing fine! Better than Bannon.
AdLib2 hours ago
Yes. It’s getting weird, but I’ve MAGA proofed my site, so it’s OK
choicelady
2 hours ago
Nice!
AdLib2 hours ago
Better than Bannon!!! That’s the new norm, and it’s worth holding onto.
choicelady
2 hours ago
Did you see that troll posting that got everyone in the Bragg case all whipped up until he posted he’s just trolling?
AdLib2 hours ago
Hey Murph!
AdLib2 hours ago
Ad – yes. And to me it was obvious that’s who posted it, but it got the MAGA crowd all fired up – only to deflate like a bad Macy’s Thanksgiving balloon. They thought they really had something…
choicelady
2 hours ago
Hello…logged in the fasted in man weeks….did you do something to the process, Ad?
MurphTheSurf3
2 hours ago
MURPH!!!
choicelady
2 hours ago
Murph – Ad made it Murph-friendly.
choicelady
2 hours ago
CL – The troll literally had in his profile that he was a shitposter!
AdLib2 hours ago
Murph – Just cleared out all the site’s caches before Vox. Maybe that helped?
AdLib2 hours ago
I missed the Bragg trolling thing? What happened?
MurphTheSurf3
2 hours ago
Everyone wants to believe what is harmful to the other side. Thus, NOBODY reads the background on shit stirreres
choicelady
2 hours ago
Hey PPO!
AdLib2 hours ago
PPO…howdy do!
MurphTheSurf3
2 hours ago
Ad….whatever you did…one click did the trick.
MurphTheSurf3
2 hours ago
Hi all! 1 month to go!
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
Murph – this morning a shit stirrer posted his cousin was a member of the Trump jury and told the poster they were going to find Trump guilty. Well…all hell broke loose until his falsehood was revealed. Quite a day!
choicelady
2 hours ago
Hey TW!
AdLib2 hours ago
PPO!!! – See you soon, indeed! TW – how are you!\
choicelady
2 hours ago
TW!
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
Hello TW….getting a crowd…exciting
MurphTheSurf3
2 hours ago
Hey everyone sorry for being late, short power surge here so had to reboot everything
twilson117
2 hours ago
PPO – are you happy with your new place? WE SO hope you are.
choicelady
2 hours ago
PPO how are you?
twilson117
2 hours ago
You’re not late at all, TW!
AdLib2 hours ago
TW – as one who often shows up 20 minutes or more in, you’re GOLDEN!
choicelady
2 hours ago
I’m well, thanks. New pad is SO convenient to shops and the yacht club. Enjoying it a lot.
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
PPO – That is lovely news. I am so glad you like it and find it living up to your wants. GREAT!
choicelady
2 hours ago
Thatshitposter is in for a big grilling from the Feds!
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
PPO – when you can – PHOTOS please!
choicelady
2 hours ago
Soon, cl, still a few boxes to move!
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
PPO – yes, shitposter MAY have broken laws but definitely interfered w the process
choicelady
2 hours ago
Since I have an audience….let me share a briefing we who are working on the Kunce campaign in a significant way….had to attend. We gathered at the HQ with the canidate himself. and two attorneys. We have all been advised to abandon most of our on line social networking because of the “on line Lynch mobs” that seem to be forming. The doxing of the Trump jury is a warning to all.
MurphTheSurf3
2 hours ago
Well it seems Alex Jones is liquidating his prersonal funds so the Sandy Hook victims will start to get some compensation for his lies. He fake crying was true case of extremely bad acting.
twilson117
an hour ago
Murph – OMG!!! That is horrible. May I suggest burner phones and new ID for your new email?
choicelady
an hour ago
your opinions, please – is Drumph really any chance of going to jail? I’d love even a week or two for violating the gag orders.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Murph – I have never been doxxed due to hub’s diligence about our privacy day one. For 20 years I’ve been OK. BUT you need new ID, new phones, new email – all with phony addresses etc. I get this. Please take care.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph – A sorry state of affairs that people merely supporting a non-MAGA candidate have to hide from threats but that’s where the US is today.
AdLiban hour ago
CL…..yeah….I am still digesting the meaning of the briefing……we are gathering again on Tuesday to brainstorm tactics.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murpy – yes, I think Drumph is going to jail.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph the Trump troglodytes will resort to all means of debasement to support their criminal leader. His meeting next week should be interesting I just his lawyer will be with him I guess to make sure he doesn’t say something that will cause the judge to throw him in jail immediately.
twilson117
an hour ago
TW – For such a self-proclaimed Alpha Male, Alex Jones sure cries an awful lot like a five year old. So happy to see him liquidating his assets and the families he viciously attacked over Sandy Hook will start getting some compensation.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad yes they will but it can’t replace what they really miss. Their children. I think Jones is getting off easy.
twilson117
an hour ago
Jones is a bully and a coward, just like his master. He FAFO once too often and deserves to go to jail as well as go broke.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Murph – taking a clue from the RW. Burner phones, phony addresses. New email, same thing. Confidential messages? Get a service that has :draft: and put messages into that for people to retrieve without actually SENDING them. Everyone needs the password to the site. Do that verbally or by snail mail. NOTHING on line. Been there. Done this.
choicelady
an hour ago
Cl….the thing is that options re. screening identity when one lives in a small community are few. I am consulting with an attorney as well. One of our leaders made the point that all of this could be a way to drive people away from the campaigns and involvement and our ducking dodging plays into that. Both sides are making good/valid points.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
PPO – I am more confident than ever that Trump WILL receive a sentence that incarcerates him, whether in a prison or under house arrest, all of the above will destroy Trump. Losing his freedom is his biggest fear according to Mary Trump. ALl of his threats of vengeance and attacks on the trial, the verdict, and the judge after the verdict makes it seem absolutely necessary that he suffer imprisonment.
AdLiban hour ago
CL….I may need your counsel on this.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph – if you want to talk about this, remember I’ve lived through several rounds of stalking and got help w LEOs in local. state, fed levels on how to protect myself.
choicelady
an hour ago
Going to send you my phone via email. Hugs to you.
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad….won’t he appeal whatever sentence he gets and as he is also going to appeal the verdict are not the courts likely to put it all on hold pending judicial review?
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph you and everyone else need to take all the precautions you can reasonably do given the IT resources may be scant.
twilson117
an hour ago
TW – Of course, no amount of money will ever make their grieving go away but there will be at least a little feeling of justice that the cruel monster who attacked them and their children’s memory after they suffered such a horrible loss will have paid a price.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad yes there is some comfort in that. Plus he may be off the air which would be a great benefit to the world.
twilson117
an hour ago
Ad and TW – when the villain is brought low, that’s some relief for the victims. I want him penniless and groveling.]
choicelady
an hour ago
CL…hah……what the campaign is talking about is sending all campaign communication and all staff info through a third party “post office” that scrambles everything unless you have access codes.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
CL agree completely.
twilson117
an hour ago
Murph – Yes, the sentence will be put on hold pending Trump’s appeals but the point is to have that Sword of Damacles hanging over his head, knowing he is bound for imprisonment eventually for his crimes to try and scare him out of continuing his ranting. No, it won’t stop him but the fear that he is going to be imprisoned eventually will weigh on him and I think, make him go out of his mind.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad, I think he’s already gaga!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
TW – Yes, he’s having to sell off his interest in his show!
AdLiban hour ago
Glad to see Bannon heading for the hoosegow. Showers are mandatory there!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
PPO – Trump has already gone MA-GA-GA!
AdLiban hour ago
Ad Trump is losing it one can see it clips that are being played. It wouldn’t surprise me if he has a stroke soon.
twilson117
an hour ago
Ad MA-GA-GA nice one.
twilson117
an hour ago
Ad 
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
And yes, PPO, Bannon is prison bound on July 1 and will be in prison until just a few days before the election! So that monster will be taken off the chessboard during this conspiracy to overthrow the election once again.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad, Bannon probably has plans and schemes alreadyt to go.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Ad I saw where Bannon was trying to play the tough guy by saying Who says I will show up.
twilson117
an hour ago
TW -Trump has had two interviews in the past two days, with Fox News and with Dr. Phil-Fraud. And in both, his replies to questions were jarringly edited. He has lost it!
AdLiban hour ago
PPO – But Bannon won’t be able to oversee his schemes and that will make a big difference.
AdLiban hour ago
TW – Bannon tried to play the tough guy coming out of the hearing but it’s all a coward’s swagger. He is clearly afraid and way overcompensating to cover it up.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad…to be sure I understand….you believe that his media allies had to edit his statements to bring some sense to them?
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Ad agree his TGI isn’t working.
twilson117
an hour ago
Ad, the whole coup crew are all blustering windbags. Sadly, the great unwashed believe all their crap.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
And Trump referred to how he was going to beat Biden in the debate, of course it’s more likely he’ll bail for one BS reason or another but if his hubris wins out, Trump will be triply obliterated in the debate by Biden, the modersators asking him about his quotes, and his runaway dementia-mouth.
AdLiban hour ago
I would actually love for the debate to happen, to see him trashed and humiliated by real questions need in real answers.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Murph – Yes, it seems crystal clear, the edits in those two interviews are harsh and jumpy, like he was babbling on crazily. When Fox and Dr. Phil The Fraud, two huge Trump supporters, have to edit him so harshly that it’s jarring, it means his rants had to be really crazy.
AdLiban hour ago
needing
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Ad isn’t that what bullies and blow hearts do, all hat and no cattle.
twilson117
an hour ago
PPO – Yep, there’s a reason Trump said in 2016, “I love the uneducated!” All con men do, so much easier to con the ignorant than those who know what’s true and what isn’t.
AdLiban hour ago
What we all see is true. Trump is toast. What we need to see is that there are others, far more rational, who support Project 2025 and fascism. We need to identify them NOW to watch for them Jan. 21 2025 on.
choicelady
an hour ago
Good point, CL. ANd the Supreme Court needs to be cleaned up as well.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
PPO – they are part of the genuine “deep state” of fascist symps.
choicelady
an hour ago
PPO – Same here, I’m hoping Trump’s ego overrides all the aides around him and he debates, he will destroy himself. And, most importantly, Biden and the moderators will no doubt bring up his conviction and sentence which, unfortunately, a lot of indie voters STILL don’t know about but may learn about via a big public event like a debate.
AdLiban hour ago
CL these wannabe Fascists have no idea what that truly means if they did they be in need of adult diapers.
twilson117
an hour ago
TW – Bingo! Bullies are cowards. Look what a whiny B Trump has been since being found guilty, never seen such a petulant crybaby! “Everyone’s against me! Everything’s rigged against me! Poor me! Wahhh!!!”
AdLiban hour ago
Ad, yep, especially when all counts were unanimously guilty by 12 jurors. Not one dissenter.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
I do not know how deeply the pro fascist and pro communist movements were in the 1930s that both opposed FDR. I’ve studied that period of history and not found the answers. But we are reliving it. I am listening to Maddow’s msnbc.com/ultra Part 2 starting next Monday. Hope she has answers.
choicelady
an hour ago
I am reading along….frankly, the sanity is a nice respite.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
PPO I agree or SC needs some major work starting with Thomas and Alito getting the boot.
twilson117
an hour ago
And now that Trump’s sole platform is revenge and destroying our entire governmental system so that he can use the power of government to get revenge on all of his perceived enemies, what indie voters are going to choose that platform over Biden’s as they tune into the race?
AdLiban hour ago
TW – problem w proto fascists and proto communists is they never see themselves as targets. And yet they would be.
choicelady
an hour ago
TW and all – we got rid of Abe Fortas on EXACTLY these issues of monetary favoritism. We need to bone up on the process.
choicelady
an hour ago
All the another good jobs report. Saw the reporters at Fox news praising it .. which I couldn’t believe but Marie was her usual negative self she just can’t accept the fact the economy is much better under Biden than it ever was under Trump.
twilson117
an hour ago
CL – You are right, Trump is toast. I saw that Biden is setting up over 100 offices around the country, especially in swing states. Trump has been setting up…zero! Instead, he and his overthrown RNC are spending their money hiring lawyers because I think even Trump knows he’s going to lose so his game is about using thousands of lawyers to sabotage and overthrow the election results.
AdLiban hour ago
CL the country needs a mandatory crash course in Civics
twilson117
an hour ago
PPO – I hope there is a debate so Biden can say to tens of millions of voters, “It wasn’t me who got Trump convicted of crimes he committed, it was 12 regular Americans.”\
AdLiban hour ago
Ad – not sure Trump has lawyer money left after his own lawyers suck it up. He may want to ratfuck the election results, but he quite possibly can’t.
choicelady
an hour ago
Here is a side bar….I went to a D Day Memorial event two days ago that involved a presentation, a prayer service, and a dinner….arguments kept breaking out featuring comparisons of how Biden was approaching his take on the sacrifice of the armed forces vs. Trump who disdains them. Spits and spats.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
TW – CA has a ballot proposition mandating a course in personal finance for every HS student. Fine – but first let’s get civics as a mandate?
choicelady
an hour ago
CL there are enough billionaires under his spell that he will not want for dark money. Pity.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
CL yes it should be.
twilson117
an hour ago
PPO – I’m not sure billionaires want to pay for humiliation.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL restorng CIVICS…how radical!
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph ain’t it rad?
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph – i can’t see how ANYONE could think Trump honored the fallen at Normandy or anywhere.
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph now that sounds like it was interesting.
twilson117
an hour ago
CL, Epstien’s little black book perhaps?
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
CL when I considered that studied effort to gut history and civics instruction in the schools…esp in the red states I marvel at how ham-fisted it has been and how unquestioned and unopposed.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Love the billboards of the D-Day cemeteries with trump calling them losers.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
TW….fascinating…..it got very personal.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
CL – Trump definitely won’t have the money for his campaign that Biden will, as you say, all the money he gets goes to lawyers and judgements. Don’t know how accurate the story is about the army of lawyers is but just the fact that they’re making that the focus of the campaign, sounds like they don’t expect to win in a fair election.
AdLiban hour ago
Donnie says he’d “declassify” it. It isn’t classified. It’s sequestered by the courts over which he has NO authority. He’s IN the little black book WAY more times than most. Not thinking it will see the light of day anytime soon.\
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad = MIGHT be missing the Heritage links here, but DJT has no money anymore. HOW is RNC going to challenge voting outcomes when every dime they’ve raised has gone to Trump who SPENT it?
choicelady
an hour ago
I have a call that I need to handle…back in a short while….hopefully.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph – 
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – Don’t forget, Epstein was arrested (and killed?) while Trump was president. If he wanted Epstein’s black book public, he would’ve done it then.
AdLiban hour ago
Love you guys, but I am suffering once again from major sleep deprivation from last night and fading fast. Think I’m packing it in and aiming for some Zzzzs. Will see you next week. Hugs to all.’
choicelady
an hour ago
CL take care.
twilson117
an hour ago
Love and hugs backm CL. Cant wait to see you.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Ignoring the current “polls” about the race, who here thinks Trump will lose by a solid margin?
AdLiban hour ago
Ad Drumpf is going down.
twilson117
an hour ago
TW –
AdLiban hour ago
Ad, I reckon it will be a Biden Landslide, MAGA is imploding and surely the fence-sitters will go for better economy and more jobs. Women, especially, IMO will back reapplication of Roe v Wade.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
And what are the odds Trump has a public meltdown of epic proportions?
AdLiban hour ago
PPO – Great summary!
AdLiban hour ago
Ad, he already is, and folks are getting sick and tired of the constant barrage of trump insHannity!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Ad from what I’m seeing in clips and reading he on clearly on the bridge of exploding.
twilson117
an hour ago
Now, imagine it’s election day, Biden is declared the winner. Trump now has to face going to prison and being prosecuted in all the cases corrupt judges have stalled…I think he goes full blown Hitler but his minions don’t show up to fight the insurrection this time. Thoughts?
AdLiban hour ago
Agreed, Trump is already on the edge of a full mental breakdown. Imagine how he will be after being sentenced, especially if it includes some kind of imprisonment. Then days later, he’s centerstage at the RNC, he will be Hitlerian in his mad speech there I’ll bet.
AdLib44 minutes ago
I don’t think it will get to that, Ad. The Gov’t will be ready this time for any shenanigans.
pinkpantheroz
44 minutes ago
Back for a moment…..I need to go to a meeting in the morning…..something is up…..apparently things have taken a very quick and very negative turn……Will share what I can.
MurphTheSurf3
43 minutes ago
Will the RNC dare to let him rant live? I don’t think so.
pinkpantheroz
43 minutes ago
Take care, Murph!
pinkpantheroz
43 minutes ago
PPO – Who in the RNC would dare stop Trump from speaking? I think he goes insane there.
AdLib42 minutes ago
We live in interesting times, for sure. Anyway, that’s it for me. I’ll try again before July. Cheers all.
pinkpantheroz
41 minutes ago
Ad I believe it’s a forgone conclusion Trump will go on a wild tangent at the Convention how could he not.
twilson117
41 minutes ago
My bet is the whole RNC will be like a Nazi rally. They’ll all be spitting fire about revenge and the evil that a majority of Americans represent and vow to imprison all their enemies, to be in sync with Trump. It will be scary, that’s my bet.
AdLib41 minutes ago
PPO looking forward to seeing in July.
twilson117
40 minutes ago
See you soon, PPO!
AdLib40 minutes ago
Ok….another call….blow back re. the D Day event……local vet organization seems to be moving toward endorsing Biden….or rather refusing to back Trump
MurphTheSurf3
39 minutes ago
Murph – That’s great news! So vets may not like being called losers and suckers is what you’re telling me?
AdLib39 minutes ago
By a convicted criminal who lied his way out of serving?
AdLib38 minutes ago
Murph the Vets aren’t going to accept what Trump has done and how he has dishonored their service.
twilson117
38 minutes ago
Ok I have to bug out, haven’t been feeling all that good today so I’m turning in early take care see you next week.
twilson117
36 minutes ago
Ad….that is true but the behavior of the Trumpistas apparently was even nastier than I witnessed in side bars….may have been an eyeopener……One of the leaders of the group put the motion forward with these words….”My buddies were not suckers. They were not losers. They put it on the line. Three of them died. I cannot turn my back on their memory for a man who only thinks of himself.” That quote was sent to me by the secretary of the group.
MurphTheSurf3
36 minutes ago
Consider all the demographic groups that won’t vote for Trump. 15% or Repubs who are still voting for Haley in primaries, most women, most people of color, most young voters, many vets, most who don’t want a criminal in the WH.
AdLib35 minutes ago
TW..get well….please…..Best to you.
MurphTheSurf3
35 minutes ago
Wow, that’s powerful, Murph. I have to think that represents many vets who may have voted for Trump in the past.
AdLib34 minutes ago
I am still waiting for the flood of flags….and if anything, there are fewer of them.
MurphTheSurf3
34 minutes ago
A big problem with polls is that they have to extrapolate out the small survey groups they test. The thing is, there are so many unique situations, as with vets, as with never-Trump Repubs voting for Haley, that polls can’t capture what millions ov the voting pool will do. I think from now on, we see a descent into madness by Trump and Repubs and the silent swing voters will shift hugely to Biden.
AdLib32 minutes ago
Ad….I believe I know the answer to this question….but…How Secure is the Planet? I think very much so because you are vigilant and membership is small and vetted. Yes?
MurphTheSurf3
31 minutes ago
Ad..your polling thoughts ring true.
MurphTheSurf3
31 minutes ago
Yes, the membership is vetted, no one gets to post who I don’t approve. And we have multiple layers of security. Even so, especially in Vox, I delete any comments that might identify members.
AdLib30 minutes ago
Another call…..things are popping…….thanks for the confirmation Ad.
MurphTheSurf3
29 minutes ago
I think the disparity between polling and all of these factors that can’t really be polled is why Dems have outperformed polls for the past 8 years and Repubs have underperformed. It’s very consistent, that polls wrongly favor Repubs more than they should.
AdLib28 minutes ago
Absolutely!
AdLib28 minutes ago
And another call….I need to see what is happening…..referneces to my running the co-op are creeping in. Hmmmmm
MurphTheSurf3
27 minutes ago
Would the MAGAs be out of the co-op?
AdLib26 minutes ago
????? Say more
MurphTheSurf3
26 minutes ago
No MaGa’s in the co-op as far as I know.
MurphTheSurf3
26 minutes ago
If you considered going back to it, you couldn’t do it with MAGAs still in it, that’s the reason you left.
AdLib26 minutes ago
The MaGa’s were not really in it…they just undermined it and then walked away….termites
MurphTheSurf3
25 minutes ago
I am long past the co-op….I am a retired planter….but apparently there is some appreciiation for my approach to organizing as that which arises from philosophy.
MurphTheSurf3
24 minutes ago
I know it’s hard to be optomistic in these times but as with your co-op, it is possible that MAGAs are on the retreat numbers-wise around the country. And when Trump loses, faces more convictions and prison time, that could doom the MAGAs to come apart not with a bang but with a cowardly whimper.
AdLib23 minutes ago
Ad…..very good….profound. I will share it. I think the awfulness of these people is starting to sour much of their contact with the uncontaminated.
MurphTheSurf3
22 minutes ago
Movements like MAGA flame out eventually, they often go nova like I think is happening now before becoming a black hole. Maybe this is happening now but we’re too close to see it?
AdLib22 minutes ago
That would explain the missing flags and the smaller crowds coming out for Trump.
AdLib21 minutes ago
I think the majority of Americans are so exhausted of Trump and his insanity. That’s something the polls will never show.
AdLib21 minutes ago
But I think the election results will.
AdLib21 minutes ago
Wise….well I am off to expand some contacts….good thoughts….one of my friends was on the edge of becoming a Magat and his wife told him that if went in that direction, it would be without her…..why? Quote: “I would not want those people at our dining room table with our kids.”
MurphTheSurf3
20 minutes ago
We can’t underestimate the wives and daughters taming the MAGA beasts in their homes. Night!
AdLib18 minutes ago
Yes…..Good-Night that started off badly.
MurphTheSurf3
18 minutes ago
Right! Stay safe!
AdLib18 minutes ago
I will do my best….Good night.
MurphTheSurf3
17 minutes ago
Night!
AdLib16 minutes ago
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