Vox Populi – 10-14-2022

Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hope to see you then! AdLib 3 hours ago

sewe u soon pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Good evening Ad. twilson117 2 hours ago

Evening! AdLib 2 hours ago

Did you see the 1/6 hearing? AdLib 2 hours ago

Yes I did. twilson117 2 hours ago

What did you think? AdLib 2 hours ago

That video of Pelosi, Schumer and the others trying to get police and military to The Capitol was amazing. AdLib 2 hours ago

Well, they have the goods on Trump. They have served him with a Supena and I loved what Pelosi said about punching in the nose and be willing to go to jail twilson117 2 hours ago

I also like the fact the NY AG is heading him off at the pass with him move to transfer all his money into a new phony company called Trump II twilson117 2 hours ago

Yep, that cements Pelosi as a true badass. And the way she worked to protect The Capitol and Congresspeople showed what a great leader she is. AdLib 2 hours ago

Also, the Supreme court shut him down with his request to hear his case. twilson117 2 hours ago

Agreed, NY AG is on top of things and won’t let Trump weasel out of things. AdLib 2 hours ago

The SCOTUS refusal to take up Trump’s appeal on the top secret docs gives a bit of confidence that the DoJ will win in the 11th and essentially dunk Loose Cannon. AdLib 2 hours ago

Hey jj! AdLib 2 hours ago

I printed out the brief the Justice Department submitted to the 11th circuit it should make for good reading. I believe they will rule against him twilson117 2 hours ago

Good evening jjgravitas twilson117 2 hours ago

TW – I read that filing and analysis and it seems DoJ has given the 11th a pretty thorough destruction of Trump’s positions. I think all the docs will be removed from Cannon’s hands when the 11th rules. AdLib 2 hours ago

Did you see Hershel Walker flash a toy badge at the debate with Warnock tonight? AdLib 2 hours ago

Ad no I didn’t was on a phone call so I haven’t had a chance to catch any of it. twilson117 2 hours ago

The debate audience laughs and Walker gets reprimanded by the moderator. AdLib 2 hours ago

Meanwhile, in the Ron Johnson debate against Barnes, he got laughed at for claiming the FBI set him up and getting nasty when asked to name something positive about his opponent. AdLib an hour ago

Ad saw the Ron Jonhson clip on Nicole Wallace show. twilson117 an hour ago

Repubs are laughed out of debates and look like nuts. Yet, for Repubs, it’s only about having a majority in Congress and voting in morons as pawns is just fone for them. I hope indies are well aware of that. AdLib an hour ago

Ad what would possess Walker to flash a toy badge, he’s even worse than I wrote about. twilson117 an hour ago

Pundits are saying he is trying to be like Trump, using theatricality and lies to excite the RWs. AdLib an hour ago

What do you think will happen in November’s election? AdLib an hour ago

I know Warnock is head and shoulders above Walker, but I don’t understand why the pollsters have it close. twilson117 an hour ago

Ad, to be honest I have no idea. twilson117 an hour ago

Murph is in the house. twilson117 an hour ago

CL is in the house twilson117 an hour ago

Hi all – nice to see you. JJ! Been a LONG time. choicelady an hour ago

TW – I think we’ll see Dems overperform the polls as they have in all the special elections this year so far. AdLib an hour ago

Hi CL! AdLib an hour ago

Hey Murph! AdLib an hour ago

Ad I hope so, I really do. twilson117 an hour ago

Hi AD – as to overperforming – from your keyboard to God’s whatever. choicelady an hour ago

Hi Murph, TW, JJ – lovely to see you all. choicelady an hour ago

I saw the 1/6 hearing today, live via Twitter. They wrapped it up very neatly. With video, audio and witness testimony, they proved that Trump, was at the center of everything, that he knew he had lost the election, that he had admitted it privately. That he orchestrated the 1/6 insurrection because he could not accept losing. jjgravitas an hour ago

CL what’s your insight on the upcoming elections. twilson117 an hour ago

JJ – it was astonishing and deeply unnerving to see the evidence. choicelady an hour ago

TW – cautiously optimistic. choicelady an hour ago

JJ you’re right, they showed he was planning well in advance. twilson117 an hour ago

Dems just need to be beating the drum as hard as they can that this is the last election to protect our democracy, women’s rights and prevent a RW religious extremist autocracy. 2024 will be too late if Repubs win back Congress this Nov. AdLib an hour ago

Ad have you heard anything about Murphy feeling ill? I saw that in a newsfeed I was scanning. twilson117 an hour ago

JJ – Yes, that was a stake in the heart of Trump and his Big Lie that should keep being hammered. He admitted, he didn’t want his followers to know that he actually lost. That destroys everything about him. AdLib an hour ago

Ok …. I am all caught up…read the stream. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Hello to Ad, CL, JJ, and TW….quite the crew tonight MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

All – there is a video from Feb. 2020 from ALEC presenting to the CNP, the religious right. They articulated the “stop the steal: strategies in FEBRUARY. I have sent it to the J6 committee. They knew the plan before Easton ever dreamed of it. This plot lies OUTSIDE the Beltway, too. choicelady an hour ago

Murph yes it is. twilson117 an hour ago

The 1/6 evidence also showed that Speaker Nancy Pelosi is one hell of a tough lady. jjgravitas an hour ago

TW – What did you see about Murphy? AdLib an hour ago

Hey Harleigh! AdLib an hour ago

JJ it must be the CA wine twilson117 an hour ago

Good evening Harleigh twilson117 an hour ago

Anyone else listened to Rachel Maddow’s new Monday blog? “Trip 19” was about a part of American history and the German Nazi sympathizers. It’s found on msnbc.com/ultra. It is chilling and well worth your time. What was old is new again. choicelady an hour ago

Harleigh!! choicelady an hour ago

tada!! Hi I’m herschel walker and my mom’s mother was a full blodded Cherokee! mom; that’s a lie! LMAO Harleigh an hour ago

In Illinois 13th race….Nikki Budzinski (D) and Regan Deering (R) things are far too close….why? $$$$$$$$$ being poured into the District from the right to put heat on the Dems so that they have to spend money in what should be a presumed seat. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad it was reported he said he wasn’t feeling well, I not sure if the went to the hospital or not just got a glimpse of the headline. twilson117 an hour ago

Hi Harleigh. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL – I have always felt that all of the strategies in Trump’s multi-dimensional plan to overthrow the election seem far too strategized to have been put together in a matter of weeks. This was a very premeditated and designed attack to takeover the nation. AdLib an hour ago

We may have to set extra chairs….the house is crowded tonight. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ok, I just want to know who brought the beer?? twilson117 an hour ago

Murph – once I get my next round of pay (I’m one of those late in the month SS recipients) I will donate significantly to her. choicelady an hour ago

And isn’t it damn obvious now that the FBI and SS had plenty of involvement in trying to support and assist the overthrow? AdLib an hour ago

TW – because I’m gluten intolerant I don’t bring beer. Will share the wine though. choicelady an hour ago

CL…thank you so much……Our campaign financing laws are just another deep source of insidious corruption. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL wine works. twilson117 an hour ago

Ad – the SS and FBI and probably every other damned agency has RW moles. They are being rooted out, but they are bloody dangerous. choicelady an hour ago

TW – I’m doing pinot grigio, but I have a Merlot if you prefer. choicelady an hour ago

jj – Absolutely. Pelosi was proven in the heat of battle to be an incredible and strong leader. AdLib an hour ago

TW…I have a rum and coke with a lime twist on my table right now…been that kind of day MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL that wwII stuff is scary huh Harleigh an hour ago

Ad – Scalise said she never called on the Guard – she did several times with him standing three feet away. choicelady an hour ago

Murph I think It’s time for a scotch twilson117 an hour ago

CL – Haven’t listened to Maddow’s podcast yet but saw her talk about it in interviews and the parallels are scary. AdLib an hour ago

TW – if Murph does the good stuff, I’m not offended. choicelady an hour ago

My appreciation for Speaker Pelosi went up many notches in the last two days….I always approved of her but now I deeply admire her. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL…..good stuff? MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Harleigh – He flashed a toy police badge in his debate tonight, how could Walker not be an obvious fraud and liar in everything he says. AdLib an hour ago

Ad – I listened to it all, and it was terrifying. I come from very liberal roots UNTIL you get to my grandfather on my mother’s side. He was an America First person, a professor of English who was racist and an anti Semite. Whether he was a Bund supporter I don’t know. It caused my grandparents to split up in the 40s. choicelady an hour ago

Murph – whiskey. “Beer and whiskey, whiskey and beer, makes me wanna holler, makes me wanna cheer”. From “Golden Boy” and a fun song. choicelady an hour ago

You drinkers. Its herbal tea for me. I’m recuperating from sommat. Might be COVID, might not. I’m vaxxed & boosted so symptoms are mild. jjgravitas an hour ago

Ad Lib – a TOY and people don’t call him on it? choicelady an hour ago

JJ – wiser to go herbal if you’re not OK. choicelady an hour ago

CL it’s been a bit since I had a scotch but I’m making an exception tonight. twilson117 an hour ago

WHAT? A.H Riise Danish Royal Navy Rum does not meet your standards (and it shouldn’t, true rot gut) MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

TW – perfectly understandable. Hard times call for hard likker. choicelady an hour ago

JJ…are you taking the anti-virals? They work very well. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

walker is braindead. I’m not sure if he’s dumber than boobert. lol Harleigh an hour ago

OK, I’m gone. Good to see you again. jjgravitas an hour ago

CL – Wray has to go, He lied to Congress and testified that the FBI never received a warning about 1/6. They were notified many days before! And the SS, considering Ornato became an aide for Trump then went back to the SS, they and DHS were infected with traitors. All LEO need to be reviewed for employees who are threats and reformed. AdLib an hour ago

Harleigh – he IS dumber than Boobert if only because he lies more about his past than she does. choicelady an hour ago

Good to se JJ twilson117 an hour ago

Please come back soon, JJ! AdLib an hour ago

And take care! AdLib an hour ago

I got into a huge fight with the Dem State Chair and Treasurer here in Mo over their continuing to fund Valentine when there are down ballot dems who stand a chance of winning in local elections. I was treated with scorn as an outsider. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad I think it’s time for me to write another article about Walker, I hate writing about the someone twice, but this guy needs it. Along with Alex Jones twilson117 an hour ago

CL – I met Scalise years ago, when he was a LA state pol and he didn’t seem to be an extremist back then but he sure became one and getting shot seemed to have turned him worse and more hateful and dishonest. AdLib an hour ago

Sorry I;m late! Hello all pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Ad – Wray DEFIED Trump J6. He may not have lied if he was cut out of the RW loop. He defied the orders NOT to send the FBI and sent the SWAT team at least 30 minutes to an hour before Trump issued his “go home in love” Tweet. Then he and the DC US Attorney began a full court press against the insurrectionists. I trust entirely that Biden vetted him totally. Not everyone was in the loop. Milley was not. We need to know. choicelady an hour ago

PPO is in the house everyone. twilson117 an hour ago

PPO….bravo! MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

PPO!!!!!! How ARE you and how is the dreadful weather there? Are you back home? choicelady an hour ago

Hi, CL, made it to SYD with onl;y one wheel destroyed in a pothole from the flooding. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Ad – like Lindsey Graham, something has happened to otherwise fairly rational people going to the dark side. choicelady an hour ago

Harleigh!, Murph, how are you all? pinkpantheroz an hour ago

CL – The new Ken Burns doc on PBS, The US and The Holocaust, is pretty sobering too about how racist and anti-semetic the U.S. actually was at the beginning of WWII. AdLib an hour ago

OMG, PPO – that sounds awful enough, but I am SO glad you’re OK. choicelady an hour ago

PPO…Hanging in but deeply worried MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad I’m going to have to watch that. twilson117 an hour ago

Ad – I haven’t seen the doc, but I sure know the story. These racist and hateful threads run through America. A LOT of it can be traced to the Great Awakening of the 19th C. choicelady an hour ago

My dad’s side of the family were all germans immigrated here in the 1840’s on. most cities had huge german populations and germantown areas. It was not very likely we were going to get involved in that war. Then the japs bombed pearl and it all changed literally over night. Harleigh an hour ago

CL – The badge Walker held up is a “toy” in the sense that police give them out as promotional things to people who donate, celebrities, etc. They’re not real badges that LE carry. They are esxsentially toys. Like when airlines used to give out pilot wings to kids when they flew, the kids weren’t really pilots. AdLib an hour ago

Harleigh – German Americans took it in the neck during WW I. Can see why they’d lie low in the runup to WW II. Yes, Japan changed it all – but a LOT of people, not even of German origin like my grandfather, were Hitler sympathizers. choicelady an hour ago

Harleigh…..and then Adolph declared war on the U.S. Had he not done so, there were GOP who would have fought hard to keep a U.S. Japanese Conflict along. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Ad what does one say about the stupidity of Walker?? twilson117 an hour ago

there are some idiots on Twitter saying Walker held his own! Cult indeed pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Murph – You said it all when you mentioned previously about how the leadership of the MO Dems afre more about protecting their power than advancing Dems in MO. AdLib an hour ago

PPO – there are people who can watch J6 and think it was a picnic. Americans may not be rivaled in their willful blindness. choicelady an hour ago

TW – You did such a great job on your previous piece about Walker, I’ll bet a new one would be very strong too. AdLib an hour ago

Ad….the Mo. Democratic has so little turf now that it is desperate to hold onto whatever it can. Claire Mc. has been banging this drum for years. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Hey PPO!!! AdLib an hour ago

Hi, Ad. sorry I’m late. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

My Mo. senate candidate, Kunce, is now campaigning for a number of the down ballot dems….and he has opened what is left of his campaign chest to them. What a class act. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

PPO – what is your prognosis for the upcoming summer? CA MIGHT get rain south of us in Sacramento due to the La Nina. We are hopeful. choicelady an hour ago

Seems the Kwami salami in the UK was the phony baloney. he lasted 3 Scaramuchis! pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Ad thanks for the kind words. It will take a bit but I think I can find enough to write about with Walker. There is just so much material. twilson117 an hour ago

PPO….well said….three scaramuchis! MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

CL – My take on Wray is that he saw Trump as the evil authoritarian that he was and all and wasn’t his pawn but at the same time, he saw many officers around him stroungly pro-Trump and at the very least, passively supporting Trump’s overthrow and to protect them, he lied to Congress. Wray is not a Trumper but neither do I see him as a hero, he covered up for the Trumpers around him in the FBI and that has to disqualify him to continue. AdLib an hour ago

CL, worry about wildfires! Would wet weather be enough to diminish the risks? pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Ad – well, I trust Biden to know Wray’s strengths and weaknesses. choicelady an hour ago

CL and AD….GOOD debate on Wray. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

PPO – here rain can make it worse. Things grow – then burn. choicelady an hour ago

CL – And keep in mind, Wray refused to provide info to Congress about 1/6 for a very long time, wouldn’t speak publicly about it, has in the end helped The Big Lie gain traction. AdLib an hour ago

Biden is impressive, isn’t he? He has a great panel of real experts to help him. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Biden has surprised me on many fronts…and generally to the good. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

I am not sure if Wray was cut out of the advanced notice and needed to find out or if he knew and obstructed. Biden wouldn’t entertain a turncoat. He’s purged the SS around him for that reason. choicelady an hour ago

before you all disperse into the web, I’m planning another visit to SFO next July. Maybe we can get together again? pinkpantheroz an hour ago

All – I am NOT surprised by Biden. I knew he could do these things if he had the chance. What does surprise me a bit is how effective Harris is as Veep. i was not a fan from her tenure here as our AG. choicelady an hour ago

CL Daniel Ziblatt one of the authors of How Democracies Die will be doing a lecture at Clark University in two weeks I’m planning on attending. twilson117 an hour ago

PPO – I should be fine in ’23. I look forward to it! choicelady an hour ago

I’m impressed about the lack of leaks and the quiet achievers in the background. pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Harleigh – Yes, Pearl Harbor changed public opinion on getting into WWII but the Nazis had a lot more American support than most today realized. Americans generally had sympathetic views of Nazi Germany in the sense of rejecting foreigners and also blaming the Jews and foreigners for whatever was bad in the country. AdLib an hour ago

TW – please do let us know what Ziblatt has to say. choicelady an hour ago

All, for all those who thought Biden would fall down, well they’ve been proven wrong in my book. twilson117 an hour ago

Interesting side note re. Access to Abortion…..JB Pritzker, Governor of Il. has gone on the record in active opposition to the proposal in the Mo. Assembly to make it illegal for someone to cross state lines to secure medical care involving abortion. He has said in a letter to the governor here that he will seek judicial relief from an unconstitutional restriction. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

AdLib – in 1940 per Maddow, there were rather a significant number of elected indicted for espionage w Nazi agents. Hidden history. She’s outing it. choicelady an hour ago

CL waiting on confirmation on sign up. Will let you know. twilson117 an hour ago

Murph – Pritzker is the big surprise to me. I really like him and didn’t think I would. choicelady an hour ago

Great, TW. Thanks! choicelady an hour ago

Murph – That explains why MO Dems are in bed with Valentine, she’s the big Dem candidate even though she’s a phony and they won’t be shy about soliciting her for money after she loses. AdLib an hour ago

CL….my initial impression of Pritzker was ….another Christie….not at all as it turns out. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph and Ad – if there is one thing that chaps my last nerve, it’s candidates such as Valentine. How close is she to being another Tulsi? choicelady an hour ago

Ad….that spin re. Valentine makes sense. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Murph – truth. I thought he’d be a seat warmer. Nope. choicelady an hour ago

CL, we cannot expect all Dem candidates to be perfect. Maybe the whip and Caucus will keep her in line pinkpantheroz an hour ago

My dads parents and many of the relatives still spoke German. They were not exactly crazy about fighting their relatives in Europe that were supporting Hitler and the versailes(?) treaty. When america got attacked they signed up in droves…. no questions. Harleigh an hour ago

CL – I think a lot of Biden but I do disagree with keeping Wray and DeJoy in place, along with that Trumper IG who helped the SS destroy all their texts. I know he’s got a ton on his plate and may not want more fights but those 3 really should go. AdLib an hour ago

PPO – trueth. However, there are those who are willing to be part of the solution, and those – Tulsi and Sinema – who are not. We need to hope Valentine IS. choicelady an hour ago

CL…..Valentine was selected for one reason…she had the money to run a campaign that would discredit Kunce ((with, I think, a promise of a sweet deal in the future for the Busch’s) MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

PPO – I am game for getting together in SFO next July! AdLib an hour ago

Ad – Biden cannot fire DeJoy. Only the Postal Board can. They are holding his feet to the fire and got concessions from him on what is being done. If he strays one MM. from their orders, he’s out. choicelady an hour ago

Murph – that is pretty convoluted politics you have! choicelady an hour ago

CL – Completely agree, both Biden and Harris have been incredibly effective and Progressive. We couldn’t have had a better leadership team, even though they weren’t my original picks for the presidential nom (though I did support Harris becoming the VP nom). AdLib an hour ago

CL say more about DeJoy I know Biden can’t fire him as he has no control over the Post Office. But say more. twilson117 an hour ago

CL…..I think the GOP re. Kunce as a real threat and they needed to derail him…if they have to sweeten the deal with a promissary note for Valentine…in a heartbeat MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

TW – That should be great, to hear Ziblatt speak. AdLib an hour ago

Sorry, got to go visit a freind in hospital. See you all next week, hopefully pinkpantheroz an hour ago

Once she’d shown her stuff as Senator, I was more at ease with Harris. I’m glad she was chosen. But I am pleased at HOW effective she has been because she was a good DA but not a good AG here. choicelady an hour ago

PPO…so sorry you have to go. MurphTheSurf3 an hour ago

Good night, PPO. Love to you! Best wishes to your friend. choicelady an hour ago

pinkpantheroz an hour ago

later ppo Harleigh an hour ago

Murph – That is great news about Pritzker and IL, at least women in MO who can afford to travel could have a choice. AdLib 44 minutes ago

OH….by the way…I am going to GA in the last week to work for the Dems there….I have a lot of training skills/experience in the GOTV and PTB (Get out the vote and protect the vote) MurphTheSurf3 44 minutes ago

Ad…..Pritzker is offering to shield them……amazing. MurphTheSurf3 44 minutes ago

Murph we’re just going to have to call you “the traveling man.” twilson117 43 minutes ago

CL – Yes, saw Maddow explain that. SO can we convict Hawley, MTG, etc this time around? AdLib 43 minutes ago

TW….the time is right for me to do this….so travel on. MurphTheSurf3 43 minutes ago

Murph keep us informed. twilson117 43 minutes ago

Valentine seems like a non-political elitist just doing what she can to benefit herself and the elite. Tulsi is just an ugly-inside human being. AdLib 42 minutes ago

Ad – I so hope that we can! choicelady 42 minutes ago

Ad….your reading on Valentine is accurate I think. MurphTheSurf3 42 minutes ago

Green bought Fred Fintstones car and it didn’t cost her an arm and a leg… just some toes! She has cartoon feet! Harleigh 41 minutes ago

TW…I will…most of what I do is boring but essential…..I will not be a public face. MurphTheSurf3 41 minutes ago

Harleight…WHAT?!….have I missed an inside joke? MurphTheSurf3 41 minutes ago

Ad what you’re doing is essential and needed. It’s the quiet ones who get the work done. twilson117 40 minutes ago

Murph – TFG was photographed barefoot on a beach with REALLY weird feet. Can’t explain it, but it was most peculiar. choicelady 40 minutes ago

Harleigh…TFG? MurphTheSurf3 39 minutes ago

CL – Right, Biden can’t fire DeJoy…though how did Trump fire his predecessor to put DeJoy in? The Board has had two more Biden appointees, enough to get rid of DeJoy but they haven’t. I don’t understand why, not a good situation to have an enemy of the USPS in charge but threatened to follow the board at times. Meanwhile, DeJoy is moving forward with a plan to massively cut the workforce at USPS and hobble it and the board is n’t stopping him. AdLib 39 minutes ago

Sorry – that’s the wrong acronym. MTG is Marj. TFG is Trump. choicelady 39 minutes ago

murph… Greene came down here to floriduh and wenbarefoot on the beach. Shes missin toes on both feet, birth defect. Harleigh 39 minutes ago

AD…I want DeJoy dumped….. MurphTheSurf3 38 minutes ago

Harleigh – I think she has webbed toes which was once a sign of incest in the parentals. choicelady 38 minutes ago

Murph – only the Postal Board can dump DeJoy. He’s being a good boy. Second he is not, he’s out. choicelady 38 minutes ago

Murph – Agreed, Kunce is a potent force as a candidate, he could be a real leader of MO Dems and that’s why the existing leaders want to keep him down, they like having the power themselves. AdLib 38 minutes ago

lol cl Harleigh 37 minutes ago

If anyone has spare change, PLEASE donate to Tim Ryan. He’s an OK guy and Vance is NOT. choicelady 37 minutes ago

CL….I think that DeJoy’s record, in and of itself, is grounds to remove him….he is dangerous. MurphTheSurf3 37 minutes ago

CL – Disagree, DeJoy is not being a good boy. He is still fighting against a mass purchase of electric vehicles and pushing for gas powered and trying to slash the USPS workforce. AdLib 37 minutes ago

Ad…..you sum up the Mo Dem party well. MurphTheSurf3 37 minutes ago

Murph – since he’s minded his biz with the current board, they don’t feel they can fire him. Yet… choicelady 36 minutes ago

Harleigh any truth that when she was in the ocean the sharks smiled at her and said welcome to the pack. twilson117 36 minutes ago

Ad – he might be fighting it, but if he DOES what they want, they don’t have grounds. This is the same as the Fed Reserve – there are agencies over which discretion cannot be waged. choicelady 35 minutes ago

Robin and I voted by mail here in floriduh, straight blue. I have no hope to oust Rubitard or deathsantis Harleigh 35 minutes ago

“The U.S. Postal Service is planning to shed 50,000 positions from its rolls over the next several years as part of Postmaster General Louis DeJoy’s plan to cut the agency’s financial losses, though it will rely on natural attrition to make the cuts.” https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2022/07/usps-plans-slash-50000-positions-coming-years-reach-break-even-point/375096/ AdLib 35 minutes ago

CL….he tried to crash the entire vote by mail system, and severely impeded it even when he could not crash it…..I think that te board should investigate and if he did as I describe he should be left at the helm USPS MurphTheSurf3 35 minutes ago

Ad my understanding is one of the PO Board members didn’t vote to oust him because of some sort of conflict of interest he had. twilson117 35 minutes ago

CL – Can you imagine how it will hobble the USPS to lose 50.000 jobs? And along with that is a plan to jack up prices and slow down delivery times. I have never had Priority Mail get lost for weeks until DeJoy took over. AdLib 34 minutes ago

With the sanction of the Postal Board, they ENDED that absurd “pay in advance” drawdown on pensions. That OUGHT to help the annual bottom line. If you want DeJoy OUT – you have to write to the Postal Board. They are the ONLY authority that can fire DeJoy. choicelady 34 minutes ago

i did the same, Ad – lost a priority mail. It was found two weeks later.\ choicelady 33 minutes ago

CL – I just made a second round set of donations to Ryan and many Dems, with you on that! AdLib 32 minutes ago

true cl… Harleigh 32 minutes ago

I will do the same next week when my monthly ship comes in. Our joint account goes to household expenses and supporting the woman w the horrid CPS mess. So I make donations outside of that because we are fine but not a lot of discretion until this case is over. choicelady 31 minutes ago

Thank you for making donations all! choicelady 31 minutes ago

TW – Maybe that explains it but someone mentioned more board positions will be open this Dec, if so, they better get DeJoy out ASAP because having him there during the 2024 election would be madness. AdLib 31 minutes ago

Yes…thanks to any and all who give to the cause…..and its banner carriers. MurphTheSurf3 30 minutes ago

If the Dem appointments increase, DeJoy is toast. Remember WHY this happened: Bernie opposed and blocked every Dem appointee raised by Obama. No one gets WHY. choicelady 30 minutes ago

Ad in agreement with you on that. DeJoy needs to go. twilson117 30 minutes ago

CL – I was so glad when Dems in Congress along with Biden ended that intentionally crippling pay-in-advance pension burden on the USPS. Such an obvious Repub gimmick to throw a monkey wrench into American society working and to pave the way for putting public services into corporate hands. AdLib 29 minutes ago

bernie can kiss my fat honky white ass Harleigh 29 minutes ago

Ad – in every way I hate the GOP. choicelady 29 minutes ago

Harleigh – second the sentiment though about my own honkey ass not yours. choicelady 28 minutes ago

so true ad Harleigh 28 minutes ago

lol cl Harleigh 28 minutes ago

CL – Sent a check for deposit by Priority Mail and it just disappeared for 2 weeks, like your experience. Had to cancel it and go a whole different way. It finally arrived, got a bounced check fee but they refunded it. All that hassle is intentional on DeJoy’s part. AdLib 28 minutes ago

CL…since I was GOP until George W….every now and then I get something in the mail, on line, or in a phone call that asks me to help “the Grand Old Party”. My answer is always the same – that party is dead and buried deep. MurphTheSurf3 27 minutes ago

All – back in the late 60s my brother was a CO during Vietnam. He was championed by REPUBLICAN Chuck Percy. Those were the days when the GOP could be found to have good, decent people. No more. choicelady 26 minutes ago

Harleigh – I can’t stand when Bernie is a guest on a news show, everything is that same old hackneyed, “The 99 percent! The 1%!” He said that’s what Dems should be campaigning on instead of Roe, democracy being attacked, etc. He is a one note has been IMO. AdLib 26 minutes ago

CL…I agree….as a kid in the South I knew that the GOP was despised because it was pro-desegregation and pro-voting rights for all. MurphTheSurf3 25 minutes ago

i use my alter ego email for certain sites like huffpo, and tfg sites too. most i just delete. tfg shit is 5 – 20 campaign emails a day!! Harleigh 24 minutes ago

CL there was a time when Repubs were known to do the right thing. But it has all changed now. For them it’s all about power and control. Nothing more nothing less. twilson117 24 minutes ago

Ad…..Bernie is acting more and more like another old man on the other side did….hint his son is in the Senate. MurphTheSurf3 24 minutes ago

Ad and all – Bernie is the kind of guy I knew at Antioch. Very full of himself having read a smattering of Marxism and not Russian/USSR history. They never dived deeply into what state corporatism looks like, how it is the same as private corporatism only without ANY democracy or human rights. Bern can’t get out of his ass long enough to bother to grow. He is a “vulgar Marxist” looking at ONLY economic materialism, and his view is entirely white, white, white. He is a disgrace. choicelady 24 minutes ago

CL – It’s actually seen as anti-GOP for a Repub to stand for something on real principles or tell an unpleasant truth. Look at Walker, Trump, etc., it is proof of being “one of us” to be a liar, a fraud and a con artist because that’s who most Repubs are now. AdLib 24 minutes ago

Ad – that is spot ON, as analysis. choicelady 23 minutes ago

Murph – WOuld you be referring to someone from KY? AdLib 23 minutes ago

Tim Ryan is a mod, but he’s MORE pro WC for ALL people than Bernie. choicelady 22 minutes ago

Ad….I would, I would. MurphTheSurf3 22 minutes ago

There is a convergence between the Man from KY and Bernie on way too many issues. choicelady 22 minutes ago

CL…oh yes. MurphTheSurf3 21 minutes ago

Ky is one of the biggest welfare states of poor white trash in dumurikkka. Harleigh 20 minutes ago

Murph – choicelady 20 minutes ago

Harleigh – that is for truth! choicelady 20 minutes ago

I watched the GA senate debate tonight……that the GOP backs Walker speaks to its moral bankruptcy. MurphTheSurf3 19 minutes ago

Thanks CL. To expand a little, since the GOP is now seen as The New Confederacy, an enemy of The Union…and any union or policy that is for the betterment of all, the way they attack the majority and cleave to each other is as anarchists who wink and nod at each other for coming up with lies, accusations and conspiracy theories that demonize The Union, the majority and institutions. They are anarchists first and foremost, as Bannon announced, they want to deconstruct the administrative state and it is a blow against “the establishment” to constantly lie and deceive. Truth is a joke to them, that’s why Trump named his site that, they think it’s ridiculous. AdLib 19 minutes ago

All both Senators from KY are total ******* you fill in the words because I don’t want to swear on the site. But you all understand. twilson117 18 minutes ago

cl those rubes think that the will all get easy jobs in the new steel mill ans the new aluminum mill/plant!!! BWAHAHA Harleigh 18 minutes ago

Ad – all true. choicelady 18 minutes ago

true tw Harleigh 16 minutes ago

CL – Great summation of Bernie. And at this point, he has dug in as deeply as he could into one narrow theme that used to be at the top of many voters concerns but in the face of a rising autocracy, isn’t. SO he still hammers that same nail to keep his faithful applauding the genius of hammering a single nail repeatedly but the broader support he had has moved on permanently. AdLib 16 minutes ago

harleigh – as a leading author of books and articles about work in steel mills, i can assure the rubes there is no such thing as an “easy” job. I am one of three women in America who walked, stem to stern, through several mills documenting the WORK. It is hard and dangerous, and real steel workers KNOW that. Only the jerks don’t. choicelady 16 minutes ago

Murph – Did you like Walker’s flashing his toy badge and getting spanked for it? AdLib 16 minutes ago

Well….friends….this old campaigner is all tuckered out….so I am going to try to recharge the batteries in slumber. Take care. See you all next week…like from GA. MurphTheSurf3 16 minutes ago

Murph take care and safe travels to you. twilson117 15 minutes ago

Ad…..Walker is a buffoon but with an electorate that is so uninformed and so easily gulled and cullied…..I take nothing for granted. MurphTheSurf3 14 minutes ago

So here’s the thing on Bern: if your entire funding apparatus is “tax the rich”, you have to PROTECT the rich. You have to take taxes into the federal gov’t to fund programs that are top down administered. You protect the rich from PROFIT sharing w the employees, from workers having a say on investment decisions, from worker ownership. You wind up preferring state apparatus to local control by workers. So you become the enabler of the rich getting richer so you have them as your cash cow. choicelady 14 minutes ago

Thanks TW….I am looking forward to meeting Rev. Warnock. MurphTheSurf3 14 minutes ago

Ad do you think he has a chance of winning? twilson117 14 minutes ago

Good night, Murph! choicelady 14 minutes ago

Harleigh – McConnell looks like the corrupt PoS he is for helping to free Deripaska from sanctions for the bribe of a huge aluminum factory in KY…that was a fraud! Now Deripaska is charged with federal crimes and McConnell is being kicked around by Trump. AdLib 13 minutes ago

Night Murph, get some rest! AdLib 13 minutes ago

TW – I think Warnock will win but it is possible Walker could win though I don’t think he will. AdLib 12 minutes ago

Ad – well, you lie down with dogs, you rise up with fleas. What did McC THINK was going to happen? choicelady 12 minutes ago

Ad – one poll that came out after the “Walker abortion payout” story had Warnock about 7 points ahead. May be an outlier, but it was encouraging. choicelady 11 minutes ago

Ad well I know the polls have them close, but, hopefully the folks in Georgia will make the right choice. twilson117 11 minutes ago

cl my mom’s dad was plant manager of the Steel mill in Sapulpa OK, he was an Eisenhower repube in the 1950’s! Tough as hell work. He also fought wwI in the army in artillary and in the navy in wwII.I had to learn alot from him. Harleigh 11 minutes ago

CL – Your big picture thinking makes Bernie look smaller. You are so right, taxing the rich is important, the US boomed under Eisenhower when the highest rate was in the 90%s so the wealthy can’t be over-taxed but the overall economic system needs to be fixed and sustainable. AdLib 10 minutes ago

Took a call…I just read the most recent discussion….my GA contacts say that there are good signs that Warnock’s quality is winning the day and he is starting to pull away….but I remain very concerned still. MurphTheSurf3 10 minutes ago

Murph that is encouraging news, I guess we’ll just have to wait and see how it plays out in GA. twilson117 9 minutes ago

Ad and everyone – efforts to give workers a voice in investment is THE issue today. Profit sharing is equal to that. Bernie never wants to talk about it. It cuts into his bank account. choicelady 8 minutes ago

I hope he wins by more than 11,780 votes. Harleigh 8 minutes ago

MURPH – that’s good news. choicelady 8 minutes ago

TW…..indeed…. MurphTheSurf3 8 minutes ago

Harleigh!!!! Too funny!!! choicelady 8 minutes ago

hee hee Harleigh 7 minutes ago

All, I think we all know the only reason Walker has supporters is because of his football creds, and nothing more. He has no real skills and his politically stupid but that works for Repubs because they feel they can shape and mold him and he will do what he is told. twilson117 7 minutes ago

OK men of my heart – I also am begging off. The eyes are going, and a lack of sleep last night is catching up. See you next week I hope! Good night all. Keep the faith. choicelady 6 minutes ago

Harleigh that’s funny twilson117 6 minutes ago

Take care CL twilson117 6 minutes ago

Will do, TW. You as well. choicelady 6 minutes ago

he is just a real moron jock that believes his own bullshit. Harleigh 6 minutes ago

Yes he does twilson117 5 minutes ago

nite tw Harleigh 5 minutes ago

Well all it’s been fun but need to bug out see you all next week. twilson117 5 minutes ago

CL – McConnell is a dog, he’ll sleep with any dog anyway. AdLib 5 minutes ago

Take care Harleigh! See you next Vox! AdLib 5 minutes ago

i’m out. nite guys Harleigh 4 minutes ago

TW – Yep, Walker proves that at least for Repubs, positions of power arer just a pupularity contest and being a moronic pawn makes no difference, as long as you can be used to support an autocracy. AdLib 3 minutes ago

Walker is so clearly just a puppet. Repubs supporting him are fine with that because they don’t believe in having a democracy and representation, just assembling pawns to let them usher in a dictatorship. AdLib 2 minutes ago