Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hope to see you then! AdLib 5 hours ago

BRB pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

I sign in. PPO signs out. What’s the point of being prompt? choicelady 3 hours ago

Hi Angela! choicelady 3 hours ago

I was having a hell of a time logging in tonight, slow assed internet Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

Hey, PPO, and CL Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

We beat Ad here today, LOL Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

Same here, and I’ve been doing this for years. I switched computers though, so it saw me as an alien. choicelady 3 hours ago

Ad is probably swallowing the last of dinner, PPO said he’d BRB, so we’re sort of first I guess. OK – doorbell now I will BRB choicelady 3 hours ago

I’m back! Phone call. pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Hi, cl, Angela. pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Hey Ad!! Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

Hey PPO – I’m back, too. choicelady 3 hours ago

I had to change my computer monitor two nights ago the old one quit on me. Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

Hey Ad!!! choicelady 3 hours ago

Hey all! AdLib 3 hours ago

Ad, Hi Mr yoyo! pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

I like computers – until I don’t. choicelady 3 hours ago

Pro tip: NEVER get a big, heavy oaken work desk, and then plug your computer and monitor ito the plugs behind that desk. If you MUST use those plus, plug a tap line into them and run it around the side of the desk, LOL Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

I had to tear apart my home office to take care of this Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

I’ve been having to mess with my home wifi today! Still have some work to do but I’m here! AdLib 3 hours ago

Angela – I HAVE a big, heavy oaken desk – and a small computer stand. Been there. Done that. You’re 100% correct! choicelady 3 hours ago

My home office is still a disaster area but I will get to putting it back right this weekend. For now, at least I got the computer a new monitor Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

I thank heavens I’m problem free, in the PC world, that is. pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Sounds pretty frustrating, Angela. AdLib 3 hours ago

Ad – glad you’re with us. Angela – I’ve had a new computer since November and we’re too cowardly to set it up. So finally we bit the bullet, and I’m very glad because the Chromebook had major limitations. choicelady 3 hours ago

I have a huge oaken desk, I got it at a junkyard for fifty bucks about ten years ago…I should have knon how heavy this bitch was, it took three big men to move it when we brought it here to NC Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

CL – Nice! You finally made the switch to the new computer! AdLib 3 hours ago

Well, another week where no one got further indicted. Good to see Trudi’ licence has been suspended in DC pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Angela – we moved the desk, my husband’s, 15 miles, and the swearing did not stop from Davis to Sacramento. It is REALLY heavy. choicelady 3 hours ago

One of these days, I need to paint my bedroom/home office, and then I will have to unplug, move and put everything back, so maybe I can arrange it better then Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

Ad – I DID. It’s faster, will print now, and doesn’t do weird stuff. choicelady 3 hours ago

LOL, CL….try moving one of those 500 miles like we did! Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

And I believe I hold the unofficial world record for fastest move ever. Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

Angela – when we move, if ever, the desk isn’t coming with us. choicelady 3 hours ago

PPO – Rudy’s lost his licenses and Trump is tossing him away like garbabge without paying him. And he’s being sued by Dominion for billions! And Trump dissed him for being a constant alcoholic (which wasn’t a surprise). AdLib 3 hours ago

PA to NC, about 500 miles. Got truck, packed truck to the gills…loaded car onto tow dolly….drove to NC….unhooked car, unloaded truck, returned truck…32 hours from truck pickup to truck dropoff Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

If one of us dies, the desk is being cremated along with the body. choicelady 3 hours ago

LOL, CL Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

SOOOOO….who watched the montage?? Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

Angela – I did pretty much the same but with no car from Buffalo NY to Davis, CA in 6 days including a breakdown in Laramie WY. choicelady 3 hours ago

Not bad, CL!! Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

The FBI montage of Jan 6? ME ME ME! choicelady 3 hours ago

CL – How exciting! I mentioned last week at Vox that I share the delight of others who get new computers because I am at heart, a nerd about new computers. AdLib 3 hours ago

no, I mean my Loser Montage….the one about Trump Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

4 years of hell in 100 minutes Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

Oh – did NOT see the Loser Montage I don’t think. choicelady 3 hours ago

You weren’t here when I shared the link, CL Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

No, I’m sure I haven’t. I will go find it and watch. choicelady 3 hours ago

It is long, it really is about 100 minutes (1 hr 40 mins) Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

hang on CL, I will get you a link Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

That’s longer than he actually WORKED, Angela. choicelady 3 hours ago

I’ve said this before but is it possible that the anti-vax Trumpers who Repubs are trying to rig elections around so their votes will count more, might be balanced by how many could get ill long term or die from the Delta variant of Covid…or worse variants to come? AdLib 3 hours ago

Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

oops, that was an unintended imbed Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

Angela – thanks. I’ll watch it! choicelady 3 hours ago

youtube.com/watch?v=-8cL54DJu4s Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

Hey Murph! AdLib 3 hours ago

MURPH!! Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

Thanks for that. I\ll check it out as well. pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Hi Murph!\ pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Ad – I think the effort to repress votes will hurt white rural people a lot, and they’re dying at high rates from COVID. This is NOT working as they keep hoping. choicelady 3 hours ago

Embeds are welcome in Vox, Angela. AdLib 3 hours ago

MURPH!!! choicelady 3 hours ago

I think y’all will get some laughs out of the Loser Montage. I made it as a way of saluting all those who kept me sane for four years…and to document the era for historical purposes, that we may never forget. Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

I know, Ad…but you do not want a 100-minute embed. Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

Hi Murph – how goes life in MO? choicelady 3 hours ago

CL – Very good point. AND…the rural MAGAs are already brainwashed to think elections are rigged and their votes don’t matter. It seemed to help Dems win both Senate seats in GA. AdLib 3 hours ago

I am now and will always be a loyal son of the mighty MAC! Apple Rules! MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Angela – It looks cool though when it embeds. AdLib 3 hours ago

yep. Did you enjoy the montage, Murph? Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

Hello….”gang”….that is what my of my friends here calls you all as a group….”Murph’s Friday Night Gang” MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

I put a lot of work into it. Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

Ad – I, a trained historian, do not actually think history repeats itself, but I do appreciate Marx’s observation that IF it does, the first time is for tragedy, the second time for farce. We are in the second round of RW efforts to take over (McCarthy et al being the first). It’s definitely farce. choicelady 3 hours ago

Angela – Montage? Is it in this thread or elsewhere….want to see it. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Proud to be your gang homie. choicelady 3 hours ago

Murph – MO is looking to be in worse and worse shape on Covid. And your nutjob Gov has attacked Biden’s offer to send vaccinators door to door. Repubs really are anti-life. AdLib 3 hours ago

Ad – GOP have been anti life for decades. choicelady 3 hours ago

Hi Choice……loved your comment about being early. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

I know that is right, I never want those assholes to call themselves pro-life again. They stand against every damn thing that supports, nurtures and sustains LIFE Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

Murph – show up early…and wait… choicelady 3 hours ago

Very flattered, Murph. I’ve never been part of a gang before, except for the crew I sailed with. I like the feeling! pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Murph, here is a link to the montage Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

Ad ….Mo. is looking worse and worse……I have friends who are nurses and they are starting to panic. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

youtube.com/watch?v=-8cL54DJu4s Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

CL – To quote a book title, this seems not just like a farce but an Infinite Jest. AdLib 3 hours ago

I have it up on my youtube channel, so the other day, I watched it on my big screen TV Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

Murph – I’d be fine with the RW dying off if it were NOT for your friends, the nurses. They will be the ones burdened by the Stupid. And I am so sorry for their woes. choicelady 3 hours ago

Ad – Yes – that’s good. An Infinite Jest. Except, I can’t laugh at them anymore. choicelady 3 hours ago

I could never laugh at what they were doing and still are…but I sure laughed my ass off at those who pointed out their assclownery Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

Murph – I read a report about a desperate call that went out by a doctor at a MO hospital for med personnel because they were desperately overwhelmed. AdLib 3 hours ago

Did anyone see that video from 1/6 on the news tonight where one of the insurrectionists yelled at a cop “You’re going to die tonight!!” – just a normal tourist visit though, right?? Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

10 days here in our State of Victoria without a single new local case. Restrictions easing, but I’m keeping all safety precautions together for now. pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Good point, Angela. I dealt w them face to face outside women’s clinics and gay bars, and they were intrinsically ludicrous. Then they murdered my friend, a Buffalo doc, and started murdering people such as Matthew Shepherd, and no, it’s not funny anymore. choicelady 3 hours ago

PPO – I’ve been watching on Twitter this good news, but yes, keep precautions! choicelady 3 hours ago

Is it just me or is it funny a fuck that Trump sued Twitter and facebook? Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

Angela – yes, I saw that clip. Vile. choicelady 3 hours ago

Angela…good lawd almighty….I just watched two minutes…wonderful….best of the worst of…..I will watch the rest post Vox….good work, lots of work….and I will be sending it along to others. who will appreciate the creative efforts of the Transgender Tarheel! MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

is it just me or is that funny as fuck…since he filed in Florida, and the terms of conditions require filing in San Francisco. Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

GQP-land, New South Wales is a cluster f*** right now. pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Thanks, Murph. I just put it all together. Others are responsible for the creative work…and are credited at the end of the video Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

Angela – I doubt Fat Boy will come to SF to file. He hates being mocked, and that’s all about who we are. choicelady 3 hours ago

The GOP is now a satirist’s version of a wholy unpopular party that only has cheating and overthrow as a platform. All the ridiculous culture war garbage they run on now, not one policy, Nothing. They have wholly decayed from the inside out and yet their supporters don’t see the absurdity. Repubs declare they will prevent anything from getting done to help anyone and their voters cheer just so they can yell racist slurs and feel the GOP has their back. AdLib 3 hours ago

Dershoshitz is just milking money from the sinking ship. He knows it won’t even get to be listed. pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

PPO – what is WITH RW idjits? I can’t even feel pity for them. choicelady 3 hours ago

Me, either. Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

What I wanna know is when the FUCK will conservatives wake the hell up…consider this… Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

Remember when they did not care about COVID because it was mostly BLUE STATES that had the problem?? now it is RED STATES having the problem, and THEY STILL DO NOT GIVE A FUCK!! Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

Wake up Republicans…the GOP DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YOU Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

Angela – I see it with the Lincoln Project folks, but they are very much in the minority. HOWEVER, the GOP women have refused Bobbert and Green as part of their effort saying, point blank, they taint the entire women’s movement. choicelady 3 hours ago

Trump suing social media was just a stunt to do two things, distract and change the subject from his company getting indicted and as a fundraising tool. And I think both worked. But the lawsuit is ridiculous and a judge will dunk it quickly. AdLib 3 hours ago

Ad…..yes, there is the smell of desperation in the air….the numbers of practitioners willing to put themselves on the line now has definitely diminished. I know three Critical Care nurses who have gone into home health care because they will not go through icu hell again esp. for those who madness has put them on the brink. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

There must be SOME reasonable Repubs out there, but they’re terrified of #TwiceImpeachedFloridaRetiree. They still think he has power. Maybe they’re right. pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Murph – when providers cannot provide and people die alone and untended, MAYBE they will rethink this. But if SD is any indicator, they will say it’s not COVID, just “the flu” and be pissed no one tends them. choicelady 3 hours ago

Anyway, with my montage…I tried as best as I could to make it linear…and cover as many topics as I could. Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

PPO – all the Lincoln Project folks have, I think, left the GOP. choicelady 3 hours ago

Murph – That jibes with another article I saw today saying that hospitals are unprpared for another big wave or pandemic. As you say, so many in nursing and medical careers have PTSD from the worst of the Covid pandemic, many don’t want to go through that again. AdLib 3 hours ago

Ad…I hope that the suit goes forward because when you sue….you put yourself in court and there will be depositions that will be aimed at raising up why social media did what it did……..and for Trump that will be uncomfortable and time consuming. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Indeed….I’d love to see Trump deposed on those lawsuits Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

Murph, …not to mention his having to prove losses by producing his Tax Returns! He He He pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Murph – no way will Trump engage in discovery. Remember when Pete McCloskey accused Pat Robertson of cowardice in the Korean War, and Robertson sued him? When they got to court, McCloskey had 15 other guys from their ship as witnesses. Robertson dropped the suit there and then. He could NOT tolerate the truth coming out. Then, of course, he gave a press conference saying he’s WON. choicelady 3 hours ago

I would suggest that these MAGA types in the GOP will never snap out of it. They are going down with the ship, in fact, they’re happy to blow holes in the bottom of the ship and help it sink faster because they’re gleeful about all the people they hate going down with the ship too. Kind of the opposite of a rising tide raising all boats, it’s more, “I hope the damn ship sinks, in fact, I’ll help it sink just to drown my enemies.” AdLib 3 hours ago

I am now glad that the Co-op is no more because our new group, an informal association, is of one mind regarding wearing masks, distancing and sanitizing….the RWNJ’s have gone their own way….away from us. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Murph – that is very good to read. Bravo to you all! choicelady 3 hours ago

Murph – Trump would drop the suit if it progressed to discovery but he knows it won’t. It’s just another stunt that has served its purposes for Trump. AdLib 3 hours ago

Good analogy, Ad….that is about the size of it…they don’t care if they drown, as long as they get to drown us first Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

Angela, PPO and Choice….all good points about Trump….AND SOMEONE THIS STUPID is the standard bearing for the right wing….says a lot, none of it good. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Murph. Nope. None of it good. choicelady 3 hours ago

Ad…I expect you are correct….. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

isn’t the lawsuit just another ‘gimme’ fund raiser anyway? choicelady 3 hours ago

Murph – A smaller association where everyone is constructive and sane beats a larger co-op pushing racism and suicide-by-Covid. AdLib 3 hours ago

Yep. complete with the hidden box that makes all donations monthly unless you have the decoder ring to find that box and uncheck it. Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

I wear a mask now says…..”Why A Mask? A Choice Made by A Freedom Loving American!” Two sides of the mask….had it made for me. If asked I point to it. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

I did have to laugh finding out Rudy’s fund raising for HIS legal issues netted ONLY $9000 and the site has been closed. Nobody loves Rudy. choicelady 3 hours ago

Cool mask! choicelady 3 hours ago

angela – they got caught with the Lifetime Donation strategy – and have not stopped. choicelady 3 hours ago

Ad…precisely……and the remainder…..about half of the co-op membership includes a few that I presumed would walk away with the Trumpistas. Of course they might well be fifth columnists but I am going to keep an eye on them. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Good news, Murph, about your new association. You’re well shot of those rednecks. pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Angela – The truth is, I think many of them are so dominated by their hatred, they’d run off a cliff if they could push a minority off with them and see it as a win. This is what mass insanity looks like, no one questions anymore how Hitler was supported in his rise to power. AdLib 3 hours ago

Thanks CL>…..it really, really pisses some people off….I mean REALLY! MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Indeed, Ad Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

There was actually movie about this once where a high school class was shown by example how Hitler came to power…lemme see if I can find it. Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

CL – Yep, the lawsuit is a transparent stunt as a fundraiser and changing the subject from Trump Org’s indictement. AdLib 3 hours ago

Murph – on Twitter a woman said she was wearing a mask when some guy said, “Fucking Sheep!” She sweetly asked, “Oh, is that your hobby?” choicelady 3 hours ago

here it is… Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083316/ Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

Lacking any sense of history, devoid of even a semblance of civic knowledge, and caught in a loop of self-confirming bias…..I fear there is no hope for them. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

It was from 1981, called The Wave Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

CL,

pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Murph – I’ve never known a RW person who wasn’t devoted to that delusion. choicelady 3 hours ago

PPO – the kind of retort I NEVER have ready.’ choicelady 3 hours ago

Murph, the very thinng the GOP wants, malleable uneducated serfs. pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

PPO – but that’s what they GOT, and it’s not working well for the GOP as they self immolate. choicelady 3 hours ago

Murph – Good idea to keep an eye on those iffy farmers but as they experience a rational and positive association, even if they were planning on trying to undermine it, they may just come to appreciate it. If they go to the MAGA co-op and compare them, it may work out for you guys. AdLib 3 hours ago

Ad and Murph – I agree that the new association may prove more fruitful, but be VERY aware the reaction may be 1921 Tulsa and NOT reformed MAGAts. choicelady 3 hours ago

CL….Hobby! Wonderful….of course that could also be provocative and I am obviously opposed to provoking reactions…………yeah, right!

MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

CL, I only ever had one great retort. Some fool said ‘ You can’t insult me like that!” I replied: ‘Well, how would you like me to insult you, then?’. One and only! pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Murph -it’s the sort of thing only a small woman can say and survive. choicelady 3 hours ago

CL…you are a combat veteran and I take your advice seriously. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

PPO – THAT is perfect!!! It may be your only retort, but it’s a gem! choicelady 3 hours ago

CL…true…versus a big guy like me….yeah, good point. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Seriously, y’all should check out that movie The Wave, from 1981. That one I saw…and it totally influenced me for life…there is no WAY I could ever go with fascism Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

PPO….another valuable witticism with a punch that I will file. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Yeah. I just got into it again w something I wrote going public. But THIS TIME I have large homeless guys in my backyard. And they won’t come around now! I recommend taking in large homeless guys (many are remarkably lefty) as your personal watchdogs. choicelady 3 hours ago

Angela….the Wave…..will do. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Angela – I’ll find it and watch. But from the age of 5 I was raised openly to be anti fascist, so no, I could not endure. choicelady 3 hours ago

CL….you are one of a kind……what do your neighbors think? MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

My neighbors LOVE them. They hire them to do chores and think they rock. choicelady 3 hours ago

I was only eleven when that movie came out…and to this day, it still impacts me, and colors my views Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

Seriously…if this country falls to the fascists, I will have to find a way to Canada. Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

The bottom line when it comes to this insurgency called the GOP is that we are, right now, in a Civil War that is more virtual but still is a Civil War. We must battle and beat the GOP and MAGAs. They will never snap out of their mania, they need it, they thrive on the insanity. Like addicts, they would never quit it, they need the hate and want to tear down the country that has fair minded people who won’t let them have their white superiority. There is no negotiating or convincing them, they must be beaten. And the way to do that is to turn up the heat on Manchin, Sinema and all other Dems protecting the filibuster at the expense of losing our democracy. So we may not have a free country but at least the filibuster is still around? Nope, these Dems need to be hammered in protests, sit-ins, marches and of course, bombarded in social media and email. The water has to get turned up to boiling so they will jump out of the pot and save our democracy. AdLib 3 hours ago

A few here might remember a group of women I worked with during the Obama run for the Presidency who broke with their husbands over the election……They called themselves the Lysistrata Ladies……well, they are back….and with their daughters….and women’s right to choice in making health care decisions is the fuse. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Angela – we are looking at property in BC. I am NOT kidding. But we’re retired, and we are NOT desirable. choicelady 3 hours ago

Or Ireland…I could claim Irish repatriation, as my maternal grandmother was Irish Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

HOORAY fo the Lysistrata Ladies!!!! choicelady 3 hours ago

CL…your neighbors are enlightened. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

CL – The sheep mask bit is funny! AdLib 3 hours ago

My maternal grandmother was a Scot. Would that work in GB? choicelady 3 hours ago

Murph – well, we had one couple who hated them. But it was reciprocated. They were awful. choicelady 3 hours ago

Hey TW! AdLib 3 hours ago

Being here in Raleigh, I am 8 hours from Washington DC, just need to get to Embassy Row. Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

Hi TW!!! choicelady 3 hours ago

Hello everyone sorry I’m late had to take a call. twilson117 3 hours ago

First things first, TW. Good to see you. choicelady 3 hours ago

hey, TW Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

Angela – Very cool, I will check out The Wave! AdLib 3 hours ago

Ad…well said…and do Manchin and Sinema think that they will be able to hold their seats…..? If the do, they are profoundly moronic. The will be among the first taken down….and at the first opportunity. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

Manchin will get replaced by an actual Republican. No way any other dem gets elected in Fucking West Virginia Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

Angela, If you haven’t already, get an Irish Passport as soon as you can. It is an entry into all the EU countries if that’s what you must do. pinkpantheroz 3 hours ago

Murph – I’m getting a very strong sense that Manchin especially and even Sinema are seeing the problem w grandstanding. Keeping fingers crossed. choicelady 3 hours ago

TW….the party was missing you. MurphTheSurf3 3 hours ago

I do not know I can get an Irish Passport….I am not yet ready to remounce US cityizenship you know!! Angela Bridgman 3 hours ago

Angela – you don’t have to renounce. You can have dual citizenship. choicelady 3 hours ago

Hi, TW pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

I just have a Plan B in place in case things go all to hell as I fear they will….because MY people will be the first rounded up and fed to the ovens. Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Buddy in Boston called and when he calls we usually have a long conversation about everything. twilson117 2 hours ago

CL – Yes, Murph and his allies should keep a close eye on the questionable people in the association and the co-op. Hateful people are capable of hateful actions. AdLib 2 hours ago

My Irish son in law wants our granddaughter to get her Irish citizenship but would retain her US one. choicelady 2 hours ago

The Lysistrata Ladies……Two of the group contacted me looking for contacts with “the resistance”…I was able to put them in touch with two groups….of note three of the group have walked away from their husbands…. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

I’d have to look into if I could do that. My problem is I could not help my mom that way Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

TW- you need to keep those things alive! Friends are not disposable in this dangerous world. choicelady 2 hours ago

You would qualify, and nowadays you can hold dual citizenship so go for ti! pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Like I said my maternal grandmother was irish, thus I have the freedom to repatriate to Ireland. Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Murph, I see your Gov. is blaming hospital admin. for not having enough ventilators on hand for the Delta virus surge. twilson117 2 hours ago

Angela – I think if you get Irish citizenship, your mother would get entry. choicelady 2 hours ago

I’d have to find out. Because mom and I are a package deal Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Murph – Of course I remember the Lysistrata Ladies! Very cool that they are back and bringing their daughters with them into the fight for women! AdLib 2 hours ago

You have that right Cl, we’ve been friends for a long time. twilson117 2 hours ago

I’d just call or write to ask them at the Irish embassy. That’s what they’re there for. choicelady 2 hours ago

Not that Ireland is the most liberal country in the world, but they actually seem more tolerant of LGBTQ than America these days. Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Angela….FYI…the war on transgender high school students is ratcheting up here….the superintendent of my local district, an enlightened man who has provided a variety of accommodations is now being hounded by the school board…which has several new members. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Hey PPO twilson117 2 hours ago

In either case, ireland would not throw me in an oven. These fucking morons that follow Trump WILL…as soon as they think they can get away with it Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Angela – I am very sorry that’s happening in your school. It’s disgusting. choicelady 2 hours ago

TW….I was a lukewarm fan of the governor because he replaced an obvious crook but no longer….he is showing his true colors. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

I’m aware of what is going on in Missouri…including the lawyer with a trans daughter who spoke up for his child Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Murph – Even if Manchin and Sinema imagine they could defect to a tyranical Repub rule, the Repubs won’t need them then, they will lose their seats and RW repubs will replace them. That’s how to hit these weak Dems, hammer them on how they will lose their seats if Repubs corrupt elections. AdLib 2 hours ago

CL, that is not happening in my school. But you provided me a good segway to say something I need to say…. Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Angela, Ireland is the only country where the entire population VOTED Yes to allow Gay marriage. There will be the knockers, but at least being yourself is legal there. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Ad – I’m not seeing Manchin or Sinema defecting. I’m seeing them realize they’ve been had and are now becoming more focused on alliance w fellow Dems. We shall see, but what I’m reading is moderately hopeful. choicelady 2 hours ago

Ad…the Ladies have had some losses (to illness, to defection, to petrification) but they have had gains as well but it is deeply dividing many families. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

If I had a nickel for everyone who said they were “sorry” for how trans like me are treated in America, I would be a millionaire. And if I had a nickel for every one of them…who actually DID A GOD DAMNED THING ABOUT IT….I could not buy a cup of coffee. That is how I feel anymore. Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

I have a lot of hope in the Lysistrata Ladies. LOTS of hope. choicelady 2 hours ago

Angela….yes…..and transgenderism here has been linked to the so-called WOKE conspiracies. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Angela – I DID do something about it and continue to do so. I can offer my sympathies about something 3000 miles away I CANNOT help. But yes, I have done the work walked the walk. And continue to. choicelady 2 hours ago

That is a laugh and a half…in MY view…almost NOBODY is “woke” on trans issues!! Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

When a fucking million people march for US like they do the blacks….maybe THEN I will say they are “woke” Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

We can’t get a THOUSAND people to march for us. Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Ad…that is the way I read it…..- AND….it could cost Manchin his seat….but he needs to do the right thing…..AND he will be rewarded if he does….cabinet post? ambassadorship? judgeship? Who knows. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Come meet my board members. They ARE transgendered. We have taken it on as a major issue for our organization. CA is not that liberal, and much needs to be done here not just in Red states. choicelady 2 hours ago

As I see it…we trans are the one and only minority that society, collectively, has decided it is still okay to shit on Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Angela – that is true. choicelady 2 hours ago

CL – But Manchin and Sinema both took money from a Koch-funded PAC and the oil companies count them on their list of Congressional puppets so I don’t know if either can be moved without being drowned in Dem protests and fear for their re-election. A Dem in AZ should step up to challenge SInema for her seat and Manchin needs a tough talking to by Dem leaders about hos he will lose his seat and be in the minority for the rest of his career in the meantime if he doesn’t step up. AdLib 2 hours ago

Angela…because no one is actually WOKE in this area does not mean that using the term does not create anxiety lava flows anyway. Truth? What truth. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

I mean…for real….read langston Hughes’ “Harlem.” When he wrote it…that was where the blacks were. NOW…we trans are there. What DOES happen to a dream deferred? Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

One thing – they CANNOT take money from a PAC. This needs to be unpacked (no pun) because it’s not possible for a candidate to get PAC money other than through the party. I want to know how that happened IF it’s true. choicelady 2 hours ago

I know, Murph….but that is what pisses me off most. Those who ought to support us and be WOKE….aren’t and yet that “woke” is used to rile our enemies to rise up gainst us. Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

I seriously do not expect to die a natural death. Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Ad…that is the other side of the campaign to push them along…I agree with you. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph – It’s too bad that standing up for conscience and principle divides families but that’s how it is today, decency vs. indecency and hatred. There is no common ground. AdLib 2 hours ago

PPO did Murdoch have his own weather news station in Australia? He is trying to set one up here to fight climate change. twilson117 2 hours ago

Ad…..and others here…remember that bar I used to go to……a real Mo. country watering hole where I was one of the few token liberals…..and generally accepted…..and allowed to voice opposing perspectives….no more. I am not welcome there. Since January 6 it has become a pest hole. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Angela – your fear is not without reason. We live in hostile and awful times again. No, we are not Woke on trans issues. choicelady 2 hours ago

I am quite serious, folks. I have been out for thirty years now….and never before have I felt the need to be afraid….but I am now afraid….in America. And no citizen should have to be afraid. Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Fox’s weather channel shows will be a weatherperson drawing with a sharpie on maps. AdLib 2 hours ago

AdLiB so Trump** will find a new job then. twilson117 2 hours ago

Confirmation Bias is just what the FOX Weather Channel will count to fuel its ratings. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Ad, not a dedicated channel that I know of, not having cable, just free to air. But his rags and TV stations hardly mention Heatwaves, the Antarctic melts, tropical storms, unless they have no choice. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

Angela – that’s quite true. As one who has been stalked and threatened by the religious right, one who has lost 5 friends to their violence, you are NOT overstating this at all. For also 30 years they have made clear their ‘right’ to murder those of us who offend them. choicelady 2 hours ago

I want to know if all the weather info will be written on a map with a Sharpie? choicelady 2 hours ago

Indeed. But until recently…we flew under their radar. Not anymore. Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

We are now Public Enemy Number One to them Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

CL etch sketch twilson117 2 hours ago

Murph – The poison has become too potent in the MAGAs. This is how civil wars are grown, a complete intolerance by the hateful of those who display a conscience. AdLib 2 hours ago

Well, the entire pro choice AND LGBTQ community took it in the neck where I was in western NY state. And then they started killing us. It’s why I’m no longer there. choicelady 2 hours ago

I am sorry for your five loved ones, CL. I lost count a long time ago, unfortunately. I’ve buried more people that I love…than I can count Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

TW- that’d work. choicelady 2 hours ago

Angela, I have friends who have a transgender grand”son” and they have decided to homeschool him with the support of his parents. It looks like several other families will join them. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

We need trans scools, trans summer camps, the works. Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

We really need our own town/state, whatever….we need protection Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

We started w AIDS, moved on to being prochoice, then to being LGBT all of which was upheld by the RW as justified deaths. Righteous murder. choicelady 2 hours ago

CL yes, if you don’t like the forecast just shake and it changes. twilson117 2 hours ago

PPO – You’ve put your finger on the purpose of the Fox weather channel. It’s not needed, it doesn’t need to turn a profit, Murdoch and the RW 1% need a constant mouthpiece to dispute Climate Change. AdLib 2 hours ago

You all know I have never been one to play things safe…I live on the dangerous edge all the time, but I choose that. My contemporaries do not, and they need protection Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

My ass it changes, TW. Elsa came right the fuck over my head yesterday. Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

We are trying in CA to make trans rights core to our hate crimes laws. The problem isn’t a rejection of the significance but a law that isn’t that good for any targeted population. But we will keep on keeping on. choicelady 2 hours ago

Murph, are you sensing any change now that folks are on the wrong side of the virus twilson117 2 hours ago

A local southern baptist church pastor has made a lot of waves because he has challenged what he sees as the corruption of religious expression, and faith in name of political gain. He is quite old and will retire soon but it seems he is going to make this his last hurrach. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

The eye went over Cary, NC…placing me 25 miles east of the eye…and if you know about hurricanes, the area surrounding the eye (the eyewall) is where you get the worst…especially on the east side. Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Yikes – did it do damage to your home or your area, Angela? choicelady 2 hours ago

CL, we lost a window screen. That was the worst of it for me personally. Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

But a lot of folks had trees come down on their cars or houses. Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

I’m glad that was all for you. Hurricanes are scary. choicelady 2 hours ago

Yes, they are, CL. Fortunately, the hurricane coming over us here is very rare. We are too far inland, normally Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

The tornadoes that accompany hurricanes are the bigger threat here. Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

TW…..denialism and delusion are the antidotes to the awakening that should be in full bloom now. So, nope…..friends I have in two medical systems say that vaccinations remain at avery low level despite their best efforts to promote them. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Angela – This is the case of the “First they came for the LGBTQ and I did nothing.” We know minorities who are vulnerable are always the first but it is those who say nothing because it’s not them, who will be the next to be attacked. The bottom line is to protect all good people, all minorities because one way or another, to hateful white supremacists, everyone else will end up on their list if they succeed in stealing power again. AdLib 2 hours ago

We had an earthquake yesterday – gave us a real shake up, and Sacramento doesn’t HAVE fault lines here. We have swarms of over 200 aftershocks. Everyone’s waiting to see was that the END or the PRELUDE? choicelady 2 hours ago

well, folks, time to begin my famous beef stew for the next few days. very chilly, so just the right thing for winter. Stay safe, all of you. Till next week, cheers. pinkpantheroz 2 hours ago

bye PPO Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

PPO….Pink Panther Beef Stew…..Don’t Sleuth Without It. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Yes, AdLib. And that brings up another point I want to say… Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

We have a lot of people who CLAIM to be allies of us trans. Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

BUT Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

How many of them will stand in the way when and if they come to throw us in the ovens…knowing that to do so is risking sharing our fate? Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

I am guessing not many will stand in the way Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Ad – the RW are actually not much diffferent from the Fr. Revolution “Terror” where they turned on their own. Watch this week – the white supremacists are demanding to be let into CPAC who don’t want them. This could get ugly since the supremacists are STATING they’re preparing for violence to get their way. choicelady 2 hours ago

Angela I was talking about Murdoch and his wanting to start a news weather forecast not the hurricane twilson117 2 hours ago

CL – We had a small earthquake in SoCal a couple days ago, on the 4th. Because my dog wasn’t frantic enough from the firework madness here. And BTW, always seems we get quakes on hotter than normal days. Which we’ve been having again. AdLib 2 hours ago

I know, TW but it made a good segway Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

As to climate….Mo.is one of the states is a bit of a “sweet spot”…..the change in global climate has resulted in our winters being milder, our springs having abundant rain and sunshine and summer temps that warm to hot but endurable. Abundant growth. As to winter…..what’s that? MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Angela Ok twilson117 2 hours ago

The worst earthquake in US history happened in Missouri. Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

in fact, it caused a part of Kentucky to become disconnected from the rest of the state. Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Yes – New Madrid. Obviously I don’t remember it! However, as an IL kid we were taught about it. choicelady 2 hours ago

Angela…when was that? MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

yep, CL….New Madrid! You got it Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

IL claims it by the way! choicelady 2 hours ago

Ah yes, New Madrid. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

CL – I saw the White Supremacists threating violence against guards at CPAC to get in. I can only hop that this malestrom of hate rips itself apart but that would be too easy. I don’t count on it but it would be a great end to this hateful era. AdLib 2 hours ago

https://www.britannica.com/event/New-Madrid-earthquakes-of-1811-1812 Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

happened in 1811 Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Mo. sits on a vast network of limestone caves, holes, crevices and cracks…… MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Ad, I would be watching on TV and eating Bon Bons and sipping wine and laughing my ass off Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Ad – the Proud boys are at one another’s throats, Oath Keepers the same and also fighting the III 3%ers. White supremacists fight the social conservatives, and the prolifers hate everybody. choicelady 2 hours ago

PLEASE let these violent a-holes turn on CPAC…I will enjoy the fuck out of it Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Murph limestone caves and holes, is that were all the demons go?

twilson117 2 hours ago

Murph – I’m glad for you and the good folk in MO that Climate Change isn’t causing a lot of problems there but as you know, as most of the US population centers are hammered, the impact will be felt in every state. AdLib 2 hours ago

Angela – I have the popcorn ready… choicelady 2 hours ago

TW….I would not be surpised. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

As a diabetic, CL, popcorn is not good for me, LOL Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

OK – I really shouldn’t eat it either. I also have salami. choicelady 2 hours ago

Salami works!! Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Ad…..precisely but people here live in the bubble and all they acknowledge as real is their own direct experience. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

CL proud boys oath keepers at each other oh my, when will the flying monkeys show up, and do you think water will melt them. twilson117 2 hours ago

Yup. I’m mostly Keto due to massive intolerances of grains, potatoes, etc. But a good internecine war might require popcorn. choicelady 2 hours ago

TW if only it were that easy. Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Hate can’t be domesticated, hate is a wild animal and while the hateful may be running in packs, they are always capable of turning on each other. AdLib 2 hours ago

TW – water melted only the witch. But without the witch, the monkey had no goals. They all went on the dole. choicelady 2 hours ago

I would LOVE to see them turn on each other. Better if my enemies fight each other instead of me having to fight them Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Choice, and Ad…there are two militia groups here that are vying with each other for recruits with very aggressive hate campaigns……arguing that they hate libs, progs, commies, fags, catholics, niggers, spiks and the other militia group…really. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

CL well, I suppose it’s better than nothing. twilson117 2 hours ago

Murh – that’s what passes for RW marketing. Yup. choicelady 2 hours ago

Water did not kill the Winkie Guards either. They just celebrated when the witch was melted Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

CL…nice Oz twist. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Well, I always thought the Winkie guards were hypocrites. choicelady 2 hours ago

Murph – I think most Americans are provincial in the way they perceive but the open-minded, empathetic and educated can at least conceptualize what life might be like for someone other than them and those who live where they do. The small minded and ignorant are solipcistic, the only reality is what they see around them and that affects them. AdLib 2 hours ago

CL The Winkies were opportunists… MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph – I think so, yes. choicelady 2 hours ago

Well, if you watched the prior movie “Oz The Great And Poweful” you would know the Winkie Guards once protected the Emerald City and the Wicked Witch of the West was once good Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Collaborators. choicelady 2 hours ago

Ad……correcto mundo! MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Angela – that’s how I understood it, but they still could have put up a better fight against her turn to wickeness. choicelady 2 hours ago

So Jews and Asians are welcome to join those militias? Just kidding. AdLib 2 hours ago

Indeed, CL. It makes you wonder where their loyalties lay. Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Ad – quite a significant number of Proud Boys aren’t white. And look at Ali Alexander! I don’t get any of that. choicelady 2 hours ago

Angela…I had no idea….all that I know is the Oz Movie featuring Judy as Dorothy and that the first of the books was written as a politcal satire with the Tin Man representing industry, the Scarecrow farming, the Lion herding, the Wizard banking and so on. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Ad…..oh I am sure there is no love for hebs and slants…… MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Well, there is a movie made later, called “Oz The Great And Powerful” that is in fact a story of how the Wizard came to be the Wizard. Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

We had a hate murder 20 years ago in LA county. A Black man was murdered by a Latino, and the prosecution witness was a KKK member. The DA was a Black woman. And she managed to bond w the KKK guy to get his testimony. It left our heads spinning, I’ll tell you that. choicelady 2 hours ago

I actually like that movie better than the original Wizard Of Oz….because I love Little China Girl. Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

CL I just remember how scared I was as a kid when I saw those damn flying monkeys twilson117 2 hours ago

CL…now there is the makings for an intriguing film. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

The Flying Monkeys are in the other movie too Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

TW – I was, too! choicelady 2 hours ago

CL – The white supremacists especially love and treat like celebrities, people of color who come over to their side. And the ones that do are attention prostitutes, like Candace Owens. And Allen West. There are worse names for such people. AdLib 2 hours ago

Murph – it’s even more weird than I described. Long, complicated story. choicelady 2 hours ago

CL..I bet. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Yes, and those groups will turn on them once they no longer need them. They are worse than Uncle Toms Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

CL to me it was just a movie never took it for political understanding. twilson117 2 hours ago

Ad – yes, and on Twitter anyway, most of the Black people say the names for West and Owens quite openly! choicelady 2 hours ago

Ad….the Uncle Tomism that such crossovers represent is extraordinary…. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

CL – My head’s spinning trying to imagine that combo of people in the murder trial! AdLib 2 hours ago

It was a doozy, Ad. choicelady 2 hours ago

Kanye West is a fucking moron. He got himself mixed up with the Kar-TRASH-ians, need I say more?? Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Angela – that is one man I cannot abide. First for his politics then for his choice of mate. Gag. choicelady 2 hours ago

Gag me with a spoon, eh, CL? Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Murph Proud Boy Oath Keepers, 3 Percenters all of them are a pack of blind fools looking for a fight they can’t win. Supporting a con man who doesn’t give a damn about them and a country that will change demographically and they can do nothing about it. twilson117 2 hours ago

Angela – Exactly, the PoC who join the Hitler Youth are the first to be thrown aside if their act of betrayal stops becoming useful. AdLib 2 hours ago

EXACTLY, Ad….and these people are too fucking stupid to see that coming Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

And they will be stunned when things go bad but they will blame those they hate….and that is the left. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Yes, they will blame us for not protecting them…while they sought to kill us. Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

TW….the power of the right wing myth about the left overcomes even the most dramatic of experiences that should enlighten and do not. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

CL – Yep, I just sit back and let our black brothers and sisters take down people like Owens and West with no holds barred. AdLib 2 hours ago

It’s like “Jews for Jesus” who made alliance w Dominionists. They both revere Israel, but the faux Christians assume at End Times if those Jews haven’t converted, God will slaughter them. And if he doesn’t, they will. Beware your friendships. choicelady 2 hours ago

Indeed. I generally shut up about folks like Kanye, too. Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Don’t wanna get accused of being racist….and our black brothers and sisters don’t really need much help taking those assclowns down Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

angela – I have no need to weigh in. The Black women of America are doing just fine without me. choicelady 2 hours ago

eaxctly, CL Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

I think we are also speaking of another West….Allen…who was in Florida for many years and got no traction there. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph – he is mighty strange, Allen is. choicelady 2 hours ago

Murph Lt. Col Allen West who was asked to leave the army. twilson117 2 hours ago

CL…you are our resident Dominionist expert. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Oh that one – sorry. They are all weird. choicelady 2 hours ago

The Dominionists are trying to force the advent of the Second Coming. For that to happen, according to Revelation, first Israel must be destroyed again. And yet they are so pro-Israel…the Jews should be more careful about picking their friends Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Murph – they will try to come back now I’ve spoken out again. Bring it on, suckers! choicelady 2 hours ago

Allen West is so fucked up he had to leave Florida and go to Texas!! Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

CL….any thoughts on the Southern Baptist Pastor I mentioned earlier who is taken on the corruption of belief and faith in the name of expediency. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

CL – Yep, Jews for Jesus always struck me as oblivious. What is Owens if not part of that strange self-denial? AdLib 2 hours ago

Angela – no, the TEMPLE has to be rebullt not destroyed. But they want the land and want the Jews OUT. So I don’t get this alliance. choicelady 2 hours ago

Murph he now wants to be governor of Texas. Don’t see that happening. twilson117 2 hours ago

And let’s be serious, racist white Texans will never nominate a black man to be their candidate for Gov in TX. Is West really that stupid? Yep! AdLib 2 hours ago

Indeed. Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Self deception is a marvelous thing. choicelady 2 hours ago

TW – I think West has probably been asked to leave wherever he is. AdLib 2 hours ago

Cl Jews for Jesus is contradiction in terms when you consider Jesus was Jewish. twilson117 2 hours ago

Fuck the RW has West….and Eastwood. Both are fucking nuts. Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Ad….it always struct me that Jews for Jesus placed themselves smack dab in the middle of belief systems that could not exists in each others faith communities. The Jews who followed Jesus were expelled from the Jewish Community and Hunted down by Rome. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Angela – I keep trying to remind the Dominionists that if you believe in prophecy – don’t mix in! Hitler believed in Nostradamus and appointed himself the “Hissler” of that vision. Well, you can see how well THAT worked. Same now. Either have fucking faith or take your lumps. Nobody asked them to be “God’s little helpers”. choicelady 2 hours ago

True dat, CL!! Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Well…friends I am running out of steam…..we covered a whole lot of ground tonight…..most interesting. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Murph – those folks know nothing of history. They really do fail to learn from the past. choicelady 2 hours ago

Night, Murph Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Take care Murph twilson117 2 hours ago

CL…….they rewrite the past and say they know it all….night CL and Angela, and TW and Ad…. MurphTheSurf3 2 hours ago

Good night Murph. Hold the door cuz I’m on my way out, too. One of our other homeless men died two days ago of a heart attack, and I’m exhausted from trying to keep everyone in sync while they figure out what to do. He was a nice man. Good night to all! choicelady 2 hours ago

good night, CL Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

TW – Yep, since being a Jew is a religious belief so one can’t be a Jew AND believe in Christianity. The moment you believe in a religion, you’re a member of that religion, so former Jews are “Christians For Jesus.” AdLib 2 hours ago

Night CL! AdLib 2 hours ago

So sorry to hear that! AdLib 2 hours ago

Night CL twilson117 2 hours ago

So, hope you’ve made your plans for Trump’s re-installment in the WH in August! AdLib 2 hours ago

LOL Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Mike Lindell is the biggest moron ever Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Oh I’m going out and …. wait no I’m going to do nothing at all. twilson117 2 hours ago

Lindell should just keep hawking his pillows. twilson117 2 hours ago

His pillows are garbage. Trust me, I bought one Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

It now belongs to the dog Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

We saw with Q that it doesn’t matter to their moron followers that their predictions always fail and disappoint, they are so addicted to the frithing up beforehand, they eat up each new BS prediction. AdLib 2 hours ago

I thought about it but didn’t and am glad I didn’t. twilson117 2 hours ago

Lindell uses chopped foam for his crappy pillows. And Dominion will end up owning them all. AdLib 2 hours ago

yep Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Agree twilson117 2 hours ago

Basically, it’s a garbage pillow. AdLib 2 hours ago

But with enough marketing, you could sell a pillow made of real BS to the public. AdLib 2 hours ago

Just goes to show you….in America…with slick marketing…you can package a turd and convince someone it is a tearose Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Ad, you probably could. Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Well folks I’m going to call it as well. Sorry for coming in late, but as I said buddy from Boston called and we had a lot to discuss. So look folks have a good weekend and will see you next week. twilson117 2 hours ago

Lindell may also find himself facing prison if he tries to lead a revolt to put Trump back in office. He seems really crazy to me, I could imagine him going one step too far. AdLib 2 hours ago

Like I said….Lindell’s pillow is now on my dog’s side of the bed. Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

bye, TW Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Sounds good, take care TW! AdLib 2 hours ago

Take care all. twilson117 2 hours ago

So you and me close the room again, eh, Ad?? Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Angela, does your dog like it? AdLib 2 hours ago

She lays on it for a while, then leaves the bed and sleeps on the floor beside me. Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Yep, we’re the ones who can hold our liquor! AdLib 2 hours ago

So you could say my dog thinks the floor is better than Lindell’s pillow Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

That could be a testimonial, “After lying on My Pillow, my dog prefers the hard floor.” AdLib 2 hours ago

LOL Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

You beat me to it! AdLib 2 hours ago

GMTA Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

I think my dog would tear it up. Her chew toys are filled with the same crap. AdLib 2 hours ago

Bingo! AdLib 2 hours ago

My dog is a power chewer. So I get her indestructible toys. bullymake.com Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

And she’s torn up most of them. AdLib 2 hours ago

I have another bully box on the way for Gypsy. Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

I get her one or two of those a year Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

I have tried with indestructable toys but my dog has torn up the best of them, usually in a day or a few days. But now, she’s gotten a little older, going on 9, she hasn’t torn up her most recent toy, a big, tough octopus. AdLib 2 hours ago

Dunno if you ever saw those things they called the Wobble Wag Giggle Ball…but my dog managed to EAT two of them, LOL Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Then I found bullymake.com – indestructible dog toys Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Of course, you know as well as me…we do not own our dogs. The dogs whose lives we are privileged to share….they own US Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

Whatever doggie wants, doggie gets Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

My dog rents my life with an option to buy. AdLib 2 hours ago

LOL Angela Bridgman 2 hours ago

But they give us so much more than we could ever give them Angela Bridgman an hour ago

And it’s without a conscious thought to do so, they just love and trust. Who could have invented such wonderful things if they didn’t exist? AdLib an hour ago

And my dog is a very protective watchdog….a Shepherd. She literally would give her life to save mine Angela Bridgman an hour ago

If I were so inclined to believe in god…I could actually say that dogs were God’s furry little angels here on Earth to teach us stupid humans the one thing they know and we cannot seem to learn….unconditional love Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Nice, I like shepherds, such smart doggies! I have a Golden, she is so damn sweet and smart, constantly amazes me. AdLib an hour ago

And she’s a great watchdog too, she never barks at the regular mailperson or delivery person, only at people she doesn’t recognize. AdLib an hour ago

What a good doggie Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Yep, unconditional love and trust. I often think about the poor dogs that end up with terrible people. They keep offering their unconditional love despite how they’re treated. Pisses me off when I think about that and all the people retutrning them like a broken mop after Covid. AdLib an hour ago

People who see dogs as purchases, objects like an end table that they can get rid of when they don’t want it anymore. Messed up people who don’t have the goodness in them that their dog has. AdLib an hour ago

I know Angela Bridgman an hour ago

We got a dog like that…a cute little white pit bull mix. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Poor baby was left chained up on the porch all the time at her last home. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

She is loved here though. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

When you take in a dog, it is for life!! Angela Bridgman an hour ago

And of course you know that people with pets live longer. I think that’s due to lower stress levels. When things are getting a bit tough, just spending time with your dog can really ease things. AdLib an hour ago

Indeed. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Sounds like a cutie! AdLib an hour ago

The dog that was with me before Gypsy…her name was Lyric and she lived to 15 1/2 Angela Bridgman an hour ago

She was three days from being put down as unadoptable, when I rescued her. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

She was a basket case. I saved her…then she saved me when I fell into bad depression Angela Bridgman an hour ago

I still miss her so much…even though I love Gypsy Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Lyric was with me from when she was 2 years old until she died at 15 1/2 Angela Bridgman an hour ago

That’s a nice age. It’s so hard losing a dog when they’re part of your life. My last Golden died at 12, had a rough passing that still upsets me. AdLib an hour ago

Gypsy is soon to turn seven…and she has been with me also since she was 2 Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Lyric went fast when she went. It still broke my heart. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Lyric sounds like she was such a sweetheart. AdLib an hour ago

She was. She still comes to visit me at night sometimes in bed….I know Gypsy is on the floor beside me and I feel a dog crawling in my bed…I know it is Lyric come to visit me Angela Bridgman an hour ago

My Golden is going on 9 now, still full of good energy but chills a lot too. Hate to think about only having a handful of years left with her but it makes me spend concentrated time with her every day while she’s still this age. AdLib an hour ago

If all dogs do not go to Heaven, then, when I die, I want to go where they went – Will Rogers Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Yes, spend time with her and remember her as she was when still healthy, because you will be together again at the rainbow Bridge Angela Bridgman an hour ago

One of many injustices about existence is that dogs have such short lifespans and terrible people seem to live forever. AdLib an hour ago

Do you know why dogs do not live very long?? Angela Bridgman an hour ago

That’s so nice, about Lyric coming to you. AdLib an hour ago

No, why do dogs not live very long? AdLib an hour ago

https://www.goodthingsguy.com/opinion/why-dogs-live-shorter-lives/ Angela Bridgman an hour ago

read that it will tell you why dogs do not live as long as people. It’s truth…from the mouths of babes. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

He has a point. But I still think it is one of God’s major mistakes and I’m still reporting him to my State AG for negligence. AdLib an hour ago

Yes, unfortunately Lyric doesn’t get to stay anymore, and can only come in my sleep, but i know she is still with me sometimes. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

I agree, Ad. But, at the same time, if dogs lived as long as we do, then we would not be able to take in and love another one, and give them a good home and a good life. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

I did read it, I think it is a loving thing to say. But I don’t know that there’s a “reason” for us to be alive and certainly, many go through it without learning not to do stupid and selfish things. AdLib an hour ago

too true, Ad. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

That’s a good point. But also a great argument for children to have limited lifespans. AdLib an hour ago

Tell you what….you should see a movie sometime called “Defending Your Life” with Albert Brooks and Meryl Streep Angela Bridgman an hour ago

And anyone who’s had to raise a teenager knows what I’m talking about. AdLib an hour ago

That is what I hope the afterlife is like, because if so, I sure as hell am moving forward. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Love that film, seen it several times including when it came out. AdLib an hour ago

You live as a out trans in the American South. You have no choice but to overcome fear!! Angela Bridgman an hour ago

I would love to eat all I wanted and never gain a pound. But I don’t know that I’d want a hearing on my life, I might plead temporary insanity. AdLib an hour ago

No kidding! That is the definition of bravery. AdLib an hour ago

I would have no problems with a hearing on my life. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Come on…I was the first openly-trans woman in my state’s history to run for State Legislature…if that isn’t brave I do not know what the fuck is!!! Angela Bridgman an hour ago

And nobody can ever take that from me. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

If like the movie, it was about niot having fear, yes, I would be good with that. AdLib an hour ago

Exavtly Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Exactly Angela Bridgman an hour ago

You made history, that will always be the case. And running for office, for anybody who isn’t handed it by the wealthy and powerful, is also quite brave. AdLib an hour ago

Indeed. As i pointed out to those who said I was brave for what I was doing. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

I said, hell…even if you are a straight white man, runing for office is HARD Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Doubly brave. AdLib an hour ago

There is currently a trans woman running to be governor of Idaho. Now THAT is fucking brave Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Melissa Sue Robinson. check her out sometime Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Yep, so difficult to commit to running for office if you are a white man but not having that general entitlement, is far harder. AdLib an hour ago

Indeed so. But nothing worthwhile is ever easy Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Ammon Bundy is also running for Gov in ID. A clear choice for any sane person would be Melissa. AdLib an hour ago

true Angela Bridgman an hour ago

But ID is one of the reddest states so I don’t know that sanity is in great supply there. AdLib an hour ago

LOL Angela Bridgman an hour ago

But to your point, it is very brave of her to put herself out there in a very RW state. I can only imagine the volume of hate mail and death threats she’ll face. AdLib an hour ago

true. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

What was it like for you? Did you get hate mail/tweets, etc.? AdLib an hour ago

I was actually surprised by how little hate I actually got. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

I got some hate tweets, mostly from a right wing radio host here named Pete Kaliner, but I expected that Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Kaliner finally blocked me after I kept owning him Angela Bridgman an hour ago

That’s good to hear. NC is a purple state so I was hoping it wasn’t that terrible for you. One of my best friends retired out there. AdLib an hour ago

Issue after issue, point after point, I always had an answer for Mr. Kaliner and he could not stand it. He was determined to paint me as a one-issue candidate and utterly failed to do so Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Heh! That was a real win! AdLib an hour ago

The real win was getting 27 percent of the vote in a Primary where the other candidate was a previously-run candidate, party/establishment favorite who outraised me 20 to 1 Angela Bridgman an hour ago

They’re such small men, these RW blowhards, their fragile egos can’t take it when smarter people put them in their place. AdLib an hour ago

I ran a very retail campaign and it paid off. Had I gotten a bit more support I could have made it a real race. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

That is huge! AdLib an hour ago

DO you think about running again for office? AdLib an hour ago

I was seen everywhere…and always had time to talk to potential constiuents…even those who did not agree with me. I made myself available. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Yes….but not next year. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Good. AdLib an hour ago

I will likely wait a bit, and run for County Commissioner. i do not want the reputation of being a perennial candidate. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

I don’t want the reputation of always running for something. It isn’t a good looko, in my view. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

That’s what a real representative should be able to do. Many of them get money behind them, get elected and never hold town halls or meet with their constituents. AdLib an hour ago

That is my favorite part of campaigning. Meeting with the people and listening to their concerns and their stories. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Right. I think it is good to run for different offices for that very reason. Many pols have done that until winning their first office. AdLib an hour ago

Fundraising is the part I hate the most. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

I’d rather be out there meeting people and talking with them about the things that would improve their lives. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Everyone hates fundraising…unless they’re wired in with the 1%…or criminal groups…or both if you’re a Repub. AdLib an hour ago

Meanwhile, i am making friends with some powerful people who may later help me. This is how politics often works Angela Bridgman an hour ago

This year, I will be helping my current Precinct Vice Chair in his run for Town Council Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Absolutely, that’s how a lot of pursuits work. You put yourself out there, people that matter get to know you and you get to know them then when the right opportunity comes, it can all come together. AdLib an hour ago

Smart. AdLib an hour ago

And valuable in many ways. AdLib an hour ago

Last year, I helped my former Primary opponent win. People in the Party notice that stuff Angela Bridgman an hour ago

My turn will come, and I will finally get elected to an office where I can make a difference for the better in people’s lives. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Absolutely, loyalty and working for the party matters. And as they climb the ladder, that helps you too. AdLib an hour ago

And should I ever forget what I come from, the voters owe me the favor of booting my ass out of that office. I will never forget why I am there. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

That’s the type of motivation people want to support. As opposed to, “I’ll hate everything you hate and stop progress at every turn!” Hard to accept that’s a winning message for too many. AdLib an hour ago

That is the general idea, Ad…but I also help candidates whose policies I feel are good. And I do it for that reason, not just personal ambitions. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

Big picture thinking. Supporting the people and policies that help people and doing so, helps you to do that in a bigger way. AdLib an hour ago

In the near future, I hope. AdLib an hour ago

For example, rural broadband expansion was a big plank in my platform when I ran…and I pointed out that the latest precision agricultural equipment requires a broadband signal. And if our rural areas could get that, farm production would go up, and stave off the record number of Chapter 12 bankruptices. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

I think people about had a stroke when I brought that up…that I actually understood and cared about things like that Angela Bridgman an hour ago

That’s a great point and marriage of progress and prosperity. AdLib an hour ago

Precisely. I believe in bettering the lives of all…even those who oppose me. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

But I want to better their lives….not just trash someone else’s to make them feel better. I do not wish to help them pull someone else down, I want to lift THEM up. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

That’s walking the walk. Doing the right thing to help as many as possible, no matter what party. AdLib an hour ago

Legalization of cannabis was another big iussue, with me pointing out that this could help struggling farms, particular tobacco farms. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

It’s too bad that substance has to battle hate on an even footing. Substance and helping make lives better should always prevail over hate but there are a lot of angry and frustrated small-minded people out there. AdLib an hour ago

The fact is nobody expected me to know or care about issues like that. They wanted to paint me as a one-issue candidate. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

I did not let them do that. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

And let me tell you what I was up against… Angela Bridgman an hour ago

I had one organization….that invited both me and my primary opponent to speak to them, and be grilled by them. Angela Bridgman an hour ago

That’s a great point, sounds like you crafted a lot of meaningful approaches that truly mattered to your constituency. And your getting 27% on your first run in a primary is pretty damn good. AdLib an hour ago

I showed up, my opponent did not, sending a letter of regret and claimed she had a prior family engagement. Angela Bridgman 44 minutes ago

Guess which of us got that organization’s endorsement? Angela Bridgman 44 minutes ago

I promise you it was not me that got the endorsement!! Angela Bridgman 44 minutes ago

But might you have still gotten some votes from people who otherwise might not have voted for you? Building support would seem to be a long term thing. AdLib 43 minutes ago

My primary opponent was the wife of a registered lobbyist…whose mother was the former President of the teacher’s association!! I had tough competition Angela Bridgman 43 minutes ago

Oh, I do not doubt I got some support I otherwise would not have gotten, had I not shown up. All the same, for that org to give the endorsement to my opponent who did not even show up….was really piss-poor. Angela Bridgman 42 minutes ago

That’s a lot of political connections your opponent had! An uphill battle but I think she must’ve been a bit surprised to see how well you did. AdLib 42 minutes ago

Indeed. But we are still freinds. I hold no ill will towards her. She beat me fair and square…and her agenda was close enough to mine that I had no trouble supporting her after I lost Angela Bridgman 41 minutes ago

It’s Chinatown, Jake. That’s politics, the best person doesn’t always win out, the one with the right connections does often. But not always. AdLib 41 minutes ago

Very true Angela Bridgman 41 minutes ago

Hell, my opponenet even got endorsed by our Federal Congressman….and I got 27 percent Angela Bridgman 40 minutes ago

That’s what gives you a future, supporting her and your principles after taking a tough defeat. What does not destroy us, makes us stronger. AdLib 40 minutes ago

Exactly. And one day, when she’s ready to move on, she will owe me a few pages from her rolodex and some choice intros. Momma didn’t raise any dummies. Angela Bridgman 39 minutes ago

I expect she will run for Federal Congress within a few cycles….when out current Copngressman decides he has had enough Angela Bridgman 39 minutes ago

That’s a big deal, it was a great performance in your first primary against someone who had money and political relationships like she did. I’d think getting maybe 15% would have been more likely in that case. AdLib 39 minutes ago

But there was more than the vote count to chalk up as victory. Angela Bridgman 38 minutes ago

I gave our entirte state a chance to see, up close and personal, a transgender woman who was articulate, intelligent, who cared about the things they cared about. THAT is the big win. Angela Bridgman 38 minutes ago

Yep, that’s how it works. You’ve proved you can run a solid campaign, you’re building support in the party, that sounds like a great path to office. AdLib 38 minutes ago

I conducted myself with dignity and grace througout the campaign, and after losing, continued to conduct myself with dignity and grace. Angela Bridgman 37 minutes ago

This is NOT what people expected from the first trans candidate! Angela Bridgman 37 minutes ago

In the process, I may have changed a few hearts and minds. Angela Bridgman 37 minutes ago

And I opened doors for those who will follow me. Angela Bridgman 36 minutes ago

Absolutely! That was what I was thinking, you outperformed what I would have expected a straight man or woman to achieve in their first run and clearly, assuaged reservations and doubts they wouldn’t have had to. It was a big win. And the voters will remember you for that, being about substance. AdLib 35 minutes ago

The only time I ever brought up about being trans….was my story about the pictures in the Legislative Building…was one of my best stories… Angela Bridgman 35 minutes ago

When asked what the impact would be of a trans being in the legislature…I told them of the first time I visited the Legislative Building…. Angela Bridgman 35 minutes ago

And saw the pictures on the wall of previous Senates….starting back around 1963… Angela Bridgman 35 minutes ago

You see all white guys….a few pictures down, you see a couple of women….and the Senate survived… Angela Bridgman 34 minutes ago

A fgew more pictures dwn, you start to see a few black people….and the senate survived… Angela Bridgman 34 minutes ago

Yep, you had to have changed the perspectives and assumptions of a number of voters about a trans candidate. Something to be proud of and as you say, also because it helps blaze a path for those who follow you. AdLib 34 minutes ago

Not only did the senate survive, but it became stronger because more voices were represented….and my addition to the seante would be no different. Angela Bridgman 34 minutes ago

I always thought that was one of my better stories. Angela Bridgman 32 minutes ago

Great approach to dealing with precedent. The Senate survived and flourished after breaking precedents in the past, this would be no different. AdLib 32 minutes ago

I agree, it’s a great and effective story. AdLib 32 minutes ago

And to the crazies who accused me of wanting to pass any number of outrageous things…I would always tell them that first I have to get 25 Senators to go along with me, and then 61 House members…and then the Governor. LOL Angela Bridgman 31 minutes ago

I just always tried to put things into a particular perspective. Angela Bridgman 30 minutes ago

Anyway….it’s late, and I need some sleep Angela Bridgman 30 minutes ago

What’s annoying is that those who vote in Repubs like MTG, Boebert, etc. don’t seem to care that they’re nuts who never accomplish anything and only have ridiculous proposals. that don’t go anywhere. But you, a sensible, thoughtful person, might have some outrageous proposals? Like banning masks on planes as Rand Paul says he will propose. AdLib 29 minutes ago

LOL Angela Bridgman 28 minutes ago

Same here. Always enjoy closing the Vox bar with you! Have a great weekend! AdLib 28 minutes ago

You too! Angela Bridgman 28 minutes ago

Good night! Angela Bridgman 28 minutes ago

Night! AdLib 28 minutes ago

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