Vox Populi – 02-08-2019

see u then

pinkpantheroz

Hi, Ad something went wrong with my keyboard!

pinkpantheroz

Pelosi gave Trump the Clap!

pinkpantheroz

seems so

pinkpantheroz

Loved the women in white

pinkpantheroz

Like many, I didn’t suffer through the speech – just looked at exerpts later.

pinkpantheroz

I feel the FBI is closing in on the lesser Trumps first.

pinkpantheroz

Apparently they are in NJ now at Kushner’s gaff.

pinkpantheroz

hi dear glenn

pinkpantheroz

Trumps youngest wore white!

pinkpantheroz

Good evening, gents. How are you all tonight? I’m cold. We had four days of glorious weather, and now tonight, it’s down in the 40’s again. YUK!

glenn

Hey Harleigh!

glenn

stay warm, g. more nasties on the way, it seems

pinkpantheroz

HArleigh!

pinkpantheroz

Ad–love your analogy of the Jenga game. Hope it’s true. I want to see that SOB in the oval office go down so bad!

glenn

hey guys

Harleigh

yes glenn – the whole rotten pile collapsing in a heap

pinkpantheroz

Ad–glad you boycotted the SOTU. I cannot stand to watch the lying bully live; I always have to wait until he’s done ranting, then I read about his rants. The man is a moron.

glenn

Ad, I bet the trumps were shiting themselves as well, expecting Mueller to drop something on them

pinkpantheroz

me too glenn

Harleigh

Murph!

pinkpantheroz

Ad–me too. I was hoping for some good indictments today–most notably, lying bully jr. We did get a “limited” gag order, though.

glenn

Hey Murph–how goes it?

glenn

Hello all……missed you all last week….important meeting….co-op board trying to lure me back….not successful, but I gave them the evening to work on it.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–did you watch any of the Whitaker hearing today? What an arrogant ass! The contempt the lying bully’s nominees/people have for our government, our constitution, and the people of the United States just boggles my mind.

glenn

I watched the entire SOTU because I wanted to see how the Dems would handle it all….rather well I thought.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–exactly. That’s why I never watch him live. At least when I read it, I can handle it better.

glenn

Also watch three hours of the hearing today…..the man was clearly auditioning for an ongoing role in the Trumpverse by dissing the Dems.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–you’re a better person than I am. The Dem women were fantastic, and the Pelosi clap will go down in history! She is amazing!

glenn

I knew Whitaker reminded me of someone – Uncle Fester!

pinkpantheroz

The clap seen around the world.

MurphTheSurf3

Pelosi gave Trump the Clap on National TV!

pinkpantheroz

Ad…that is how I feel….lots of people hurting because of Trump policies but they cannot come to terms with that so I see no real change in the board to lure back into the muddle.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–how did you watch that hearing without throwing something at your TV? Especially when the arrogant ass told the chairman his time was up. OMG! I wanted to throw something at my computer when I read that.

glenn

Glenn…Naylors half smile of contempt was an effective response…..but it was nauseating.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph, glad you declined to rejoin the coop. YOu owe them nothing, in fact its vice versa

pinkpantheroz

PPO….I do owe them nothing and they provide no compelling reason to rejoin the effort.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–Strong woman, our Madame Secretary. All without saying a word!

glenn

Ad…and the GOP frantically trying to keep his roles in shady operations off the record.

MurphTheSurf3

Glenn…Madam Secretary?

MurphTheSurf3

Better, Ad!

pinkpantheroz

Or Ming the Merciless from Flash Gordon.

MurphTheSurf3

The poor GOP desperate whinging request for Trump’s tax returns to be left alone!

pinkpantheroz

MurphTheSurf3

Ming wouldn’t stoop to be a epube

Harleigh

Ad–That’s exactly what I thought the response should have been too. Who do you think you are? At least the congresswoman (forget her name) put him in his place. Whitaker reminded me so much of Kavanaugh during his hearing. An entitled asshole who thinks the shit coming out of his piehole doesn’t stink! Any asshole who disses the committee(s) asking questions should automatically be disqualified and held in contempt of Congress.

glenn

Murph–oops!

glenn

Ad how did you get your pic to show up….I am doing something wrong.

MurphTheSurf3

Ah! Ad, I had the same difficulty.

pinkpantheroz

PPO–I know, our “poor, misunderstood, picked on” person occupying the Oval Office. He’s so “harassed”, isn’t he? Why shouldn’t he show his tax returns? Did you see Pelosi’s answer to why the Mueller investigation is going on so long?

glenn

yes, glenn. priceless ripose!

pinkpantheroz

riposte!

pinkpantheroz

Ad ….. I am afraid that you are correct….. having invited me to their meeting their pre meeting chatter was all about how good Trump was at the SOTU. They are fortunate I stayed.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–it just blows my mind how these people can’t see through the lying bully. Are they that dense, or are they just too afraid/ashamed to admit how much they were duped?

glenn

Murph, it is truly incredible how they can still idolize that cretin after he’s shafted their very livelihoods

pinkpantheroz

Glenn and PPO….my neighbors are prime examples of those whose filters blind them to reality.

MurphTheSurf3

Well, Whitaker is still only ‘acting’ isn’t he, like trump? He’s better off trying to con people into time-travel, cryptocurrencies, Bigfoot dolls, and toilets designed for “well-endowed men.”

pinkpantheroz

Ad…the ranking member seems to have been assigned that role…throw his body in the way.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–well, of course Whitaker jumped out of his seat when his frauds were exposed. How dare anyone question him? Again, although I didn’t watch the hearing; I did read enough about it to come away with how much his sense of entitlement was showing. It is going to take a long time to reverse the damage this administration has done; just look at the co-op members. It’s going to take a long time for them to realize the damage the lying bully has done to this country.

glenn

Ad there was a similar new GOPer whose spent almost all of her time stating how stunned she was by the hearing’s tone. Of course she blamed the Dems but it was an odd interlude nevertheless.

MurphTheSurf3

glenn, it is rumored here that US will go into a big recession before the next election. Maybe then it will sink in

pinkpantheroz

Ad…that they are. Wait til they get their Income Tax returns.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–do you see any time when those filters will be removed? I’m not optimistic about that. What I do hope for is that the rest of the country just starts ignoring them, and going about the business of moving us forward again. Of course, for that to happen, we have to get the lying bully out of office.

glenn

Really, can the World survive 6 more years of this shite? I don’t think so. McConnell and his cronies need to be outed pronto

pinkpantheroz

Glenn…everytime I see what appears to be a crack in the stoney facade it seems to get plastered over by Fox et. al. So…..maybe not….these are folks who still declare that Obama was not a citizen with a sense of righteousness evident.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–as I said, I didn’t watch the hearing; but that’s a shame that a Dem was poorly prepared. Dems need to be at peak performance during these hearings. They cannot afford to let the witnesses hijack the hearings, as Whitaker tried to do today.

glenn

ANy comments about Bezos’ skewering of the Nat. Enquirer? Nice to have money and a thick skin

pinkpantheroz

Ad–that’s good to hear about the rejection of Whitaker’s performance. And, make no mistake about it, it was definitely a performance. A performance designed to whip up rightousness

glenn

PPO…I am glad that Bezos stepped up but it is a shame that this kind of response needs to happen….freedom of the press is endangered when things like this emerge I fear.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad. …where did you get the scoop on the Whitaker reviews.

MurphTheSurf3

OOps, A performance designed to whip righteousness among repubs regarding Dems’ right to question witnesses. I do have a question, though. Isn’t there another person nominated as Attorney General, so what happens to Whitaker if Barr is appointed AG? Does Whitaker still have a job?

glenn

I pray for the day that Americans become like the post-war Germans and say to each other: “What did we do”? But sooner, and without the War and genocide, please.

pinkpantheroz

Ad…and a tax accountant has told me that the elimination of a number of deductions that hit the middle class particularly hard to create some padding to soften the cost of the cuts for the rich.

MurphTheSurf3

Hope so, Ad.

pinkpantheroz

Ad–Repubs are such hypocrites! The real issue is whether or not we are going to appoint someone to a highly sensitive job within the government who lies to Congress, and treats Congress with contempt. What is more of a real issue than that? If I were a Dem, that would have been in the beginning of my questioning.

glenn

Go, SDNY!

pinkpantheroz

Ad–the American republican people will never learn that tax cuts never benefit the middle class. I wish that they would finally learn that trickle down economics is nothing more than repubs pissing on us and telling it’s raining!

glenn

Hmmmmm….Joy is offering an impression….I wonder how a fuller survey will turn out.

MurphTheSurf3

telling us it’s raining.

glenn

Now, can we all agree that Collins is an utter lying fool?

pinkpantheroz

Ad–then I’m glad that Dems hauled his arrogant ass before congress this week.

glenn

Barr may be very interesting. I have been doing a lot of reading on him. I think he is a bit like Roberts…and institutional legacy means a lot to him.

MurphTheSurf3

Collins needs to be dumped on her lying butt……she is a con artist…..

MurphTheSurf3

Yes, Murph,

pinkpantheroz

PPO–I pray for that day, too. Personally, I just don’t get why it hasn’t happened sooner.

glenn

Ad….that is correct. You know was really hit. COPS! And are they pissed off…

MurphTheSurf3

Does anyone have any comment on AOC’s performance this week? Pistol!

pinkpantheroz

PPO–Collins said what she thought sounded good at the time. As Murph says, she is a lying con.

glenn

PPO…I am beginning to realize how smart she is….a firebrand, yes….but there is depth there.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–as to your opinion of Barr. Does that mean that you think he will work based on the constitution and not right wing talking points?

glenn

Ad, I wonder what will happen in future years when the living ex-pres…. oh hang on. Trump’ll still be in jail! OK then

pinkpantheroz

Glenn…I do not see Barr as a follower.

MurphTheSurf3

PPO….Trump in jail…now there is a wall I can get behind.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–ouch! There are no more credits for dependents?

glenn

My tax accountant friend sent out warnings to all of his regular clients about the pitfalls in the new tax structure for the middle class…most of them ignored him…

MurphTheSurf3

Ad…but it is to those cultists that he was appealing….just as Trump does.

MurphTheSurf3

PPO–I love AOC. However, the right wing drivel now being circulated is that her green deal plan will ban air travel. I kid you not; that’s why my neighbor told me tonight.

glenn

Murph–that’s good to hear about Barr. Only time will tell, of course, but perhaps we can have some sanity.

glenn

Dear Lord, glenn! No honeymoon period here, then? Wow.

pinkpantheroz

Ad….Maine is so odd…..a very blue state that has elected red-heads to key posts.

MurphTheSurf3

Well, folks, Its time for me to say sayonara. Try your best to stay sane, please. Cheers!

pinkpantheroz

Cops typically buy their own uniforms, shoes, holsters, second guns, etc. Hundreds of dollars a year.

MurphTheSurf3

Goodnight PPO

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–yes, I think AOC’s tax plan is brilliant. Repubs can complain all they want and make up stories, but if repubs truly want to “make America great again”, then we need to go back to the tax rates that were in effect under a republican president, Eisenhower.

glenn

Ad…I must agree….AND Pelosi has assigned her to committees where she will be mentored.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–Love Dead Senator Walking!

glenn

Any thoughts on the Virginia debacle?

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–even if your tax accountant friend sent out warnings, there wasn’t much his clients could do about the new tax laws. They have to ignore him or admit they were duped by republicans, and that isn’t going to happen for a long time.

glenn

Glenn…he was warning them not to presume that they would have extra cash but to budget with reality in mind. Apparently many fell for the dazzle hard sell.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–As you know, I don’t have to worry about those, but I’m glad to hear the child tax credits are still in effect for certain income levels.

glenn

Murph–thanks for the clarification.

glenn

Ad–I like your scenario for VA, but will Northam resign? From the little I’ve read of the mess there, he is refusing to resign. If he’s refusing to set up your scenario, then I’m all for it.

glenn

Ad–I know that, and you know that about the green new deal, but all any repub will think or know about it from now until eternity is that AOC wants to ban air travel. Bet on it.

glenn

Ad….that scenario is one I have read of as well and it makes sense…….I have very mixed feelings about dumping the gov and AG for cause…..one of the folks I most respect in St. Louis is a community organizer and his held a number of posts in city government over the years. 10 years ago it came out that he had been a gang banger in a notorious gun and drug smuggling crew…..he admitted this…spoke of his conversion….asked others to keep all of that in mind and then decide if they want him gone. The black community which would have been most affected rallied behind him saying there has to be room for conversion and redemption.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–Yes, the Lt.Gov should resign, as should the Gov, but not until he sets up scenario you described. I don’t care what political party you belong to; blackface is wrong, and sexual harassment is wrong.

glenn

Ad–it certainly is a mess. You can be an accused rapist and be a supreme court judge if you’re a middle-aged entitled white man, too. It’s not limited to old, white men.

glenn

Glenn…I posted this to Ad re your conversation. Ad….that scenario is one I have read of as well and it makes sense…….I have very mixed feelings about dumping the gov and AG for cause…..one of the folks I most respect in St. Louis is a community organizer and his held a number of posts in city government over the years. 10 years ago it came out that he had been a gang banger in a notorious gun and drug smuggling crew…..he admitted this…spoke of his conversion….asked others to keep all of that in mind and then decide if they want him gone. The black community which would have been most affected rallied behind him saying there has to be room for conversion and redemption.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–What you are describing about the former gang banger is a little different than what’s happening in VA. From what I’m reading, the governor at first denied the blackface, then just made it worse by subsequent statements. He hasn’t “converted”; nor has he apologized, from what I have read. If I’m wrong, please let me know; I’m always willing to be corrected.

glenn

Ad–just as repubs were warned what a con man the lying bully is; they were also warned that these so-called tax cuts were no such thing. But they keep believing the lies, and for the life of me, I can’t figure out why.

glenn

Glenn…..the thing is that the picture on the yearbook is not him and since he did not buy a book he says he never saw it. I would not be surprised if yearbook staff pulled this on him as a prank…apparently Northam was a “lib” in a very conservative southern school….reading this in Va. newspapers. I think he panicked when it first came out and then he told a story on himself when he did dress up but as Michael Jackson…there has been very little hub bub about that. Northam appears to me to be legit but his leadership may now be too damaged.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–I agree completely with your take on Northam.

glenn

In the Va papers it seems clear to me that black leadership has been very quiet about the gov and AG both of whom have very progressive agendas….remember that the GOP appears to be the source of the stories….they know how small the hold on power is for the dems.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–I think Northam’s leadership to way too damaged. He didn’t show leadership by panicking; he could have handled it much better by doing something like Ad is suggesting. He damaged himself and he should resign for the good of his state, and his party.

glenn

Glenn…I get your point but again there is a wider context and black leaders in the state seems to get this…..

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–if that is so, then let Northam begin to work with the wider context, and show leadership along with the black leaders. Let him do town halls, etc., and answer questions about what comes next. But his belligerence (or at least that’s the way I see it) seems to be getting in his way. Are you saying the black leaders in VA are supporting Northam?

glenn

Ad….given the advances in identification today…..if he was in blackface that would be known….the person in the outfit is a different matter. I read the editor’s comment. I do not buy it. I know something about this from direct experience and it would be very easy to change out photos…

MurphTheSurf3

Glenn…your approach seems both reasonable and necessary if he is to continue. Same for the AG

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–seems to me we are going to have to agree to disagree about this. That being said, I always enjoy your take on the issues of the day, and respect your opinion immensely.

glenn

Glenn….it is the silence of black leaders….and the willingness of many to meet with him one on one and as groups.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad – I think my response to Glenn about the course of events pretty much agrees with yours….

MurphTheSurf3

So, now that I’m being so reasonable, it’s time for me to sign off. Had two doubleheader soccer games this week (well my granddaughter did; I just watched), so I’m beat. You both take care, and hope to chat again next week.

glenn

So, I guess we shall have to all wait and see…but I always like a debate with other smart and reasonable folks like you all. So, until next week…….

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–actually, she did pretty well. Scored twice in her JV games. I even have video of one score!

glenn