Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PST. Hope to see you then!
AdLib3 hours ago
Hey PPO!
AdLib2 hours ago
Hey Ad! Watching the Olympics. some of those sports are plain crazy!
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
see you in a few
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
I know, saw some last night. Love the skiing!
AdLib2 hours ago
See you then!
AdLib2 hours ago
greetings! Anyone left in the WH?
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
Hey!
AdLib2 hours ago
There’s a custodian who barely beat his wife.
AdLib2 hours ago
Getting bewildered trying to make sense of what’s happening
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
She slipped and fell into his fist.
AdLib2 hours ago
Hey Harleigh!
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
WH is more like Olympic Boxing competition
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
hey guys!
Harleigh
2 hours ago
What’s happening is that a mentally ill man was put in the WH by the ex-FBI Director and Russia and we have no way to get him out because his cronies control Congress. And crazy and evil attracts crazy and evil.
AdLib2 hours ago
Hey Harleigh!
AdLib2 hours ago
Hey glenn!
AdLib2 hours ago
The crazys are runnung the asylum!
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
hi glenn
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
Just watching the Korean delegation entering the Olympic stadium.
glenn
2 hours ago
PPO – The WH is a bad frat with the most violent, moronic and insecure guys having power.
AdLib2 hours ago
Evening, gents. Hope everyone is well this evening.
glenn
2 hours ago
Sessions being a prick, not standing for anyone other than USA
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
glenn – Was Mike Pence booing them?
AdLib2 hours ago
Ad–don’t know, they didn’t show him. PPO–I think you mean Pence, don’t you?
glenn
2 hours ago
hahaha they locked ence out of the vip dinner and he would not shake hands with them!
Harleigh
2 hours ago
Sessions should have been standing up for people in the FBI, all he could manage was a weak public compliment of Rosenstein and Brand.
AdLib2 hours ago
Even Kim’s sister is standing – yes, Ad, sorry, HalfPence
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
Pence…. LOL
Harleigh
2 hours ago
Harleigh–pence is a prick.
glenn
2 hours ago
yep
Harleigh
2 hours ago
Rerun of the Opeining?
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
PPO–HalfPence is good; he’s not even worth that, though.
glenn
2 hours ago
Farthing!
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
PPO–penthing?
glenn
2 hours ago
glenn – Pence snubbed the woman from North Korea at the VIP dinner last night so assuming he might just boo Koreans tonight.
AdLib2 hours ago
Yeth!
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
Harleigh – Yep, that was so funny! Pence is indeed a real lying sack of crap.
AdLib2 hours ago
Ad, his missus mustn’t have been at his side. can’t be seduced by strange women, y’know
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
Ad–well, was Mother with pence when he snubbed her? You know he’s not allowed to talk to other women unless Mother is with him.
glenn
2 hours ago
PPO–Great minds think alike! LOL!
glenn
2 hours ago
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
PPO–Or maybe he was just thinking about why he is so out of the loop, and couldn’t concentrate on polite conversation.
glenn
2 hours ago
Pence was probably on the phone with Mother the whole time, “I almost got in an elevator with a…woman!” “You poor boy, you must have been so scared!”
AdLib2 hours ago
Ad–LOL!
glenn
2 hours ago
I’ve heard of VPs being kept out of the loop, but Pence is in Siberia! (Oops, freudian slip there!)
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
Did you hear that the #3 in the DoJ is resigning? Gives Trump a path to appointing Mueller’s new boss if he fires Rosenstein.
AdLib2 hours ago
Ad–do you really think trump will fire Rosenstein?
glenn
2 hours ago
Going to work at Walmart, I hear. God – the price you pay for keeping your dignity
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
Pence is the outside dog in the Trump Admin. They throw him scraps and all he ever does is lick himself.
AdLib2 hours ago
Cadet Bone Spurs has also blocked the Dem memo from being released.
glenn
an hour ago
Ad–Ewwww!
glenn
an hour ago
I love it that there won’t be a parade as they all have bone Spurs!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
PPO–really, there won’t be a parade?
glenn
an hour ago
glenn – I think he could fire Rosenstein. It would be risky and proof of obstruction of justice as well as push Mueller to come out against him ASAP before he might be stopped.
AdLiban hour ago
Hey Harleigh! Welcome back!
AdLiban hour ago
bet the indictments are on a hair trigger of Drumpf tries that crap
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
the dem memo wil be leaked in 3…2…1…
Harleigh
an hour ago
Ad–Do you think Mueller will be rushed? I think he’s taking his time, much as I hate how long it’s taking, so that he has an airtight case.
glenn
an hour ago
Harleigh–someone said on another blog, “Just give it to Feinstein.”
glenn
an hour ago
glenn – Yes and I think it’s a big mistake for Trump to block the Dems’ memo. Makes him look very bad and obstructionist.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad, well, if the hairpiece fits….
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Dumb move that proves he’s guilty
Harleigh
an hour ago
All these soldiers and officers have come out almost unanimously to attack Trump’s idea for a military parade. Only Trump could make the US military turn on the CiC.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad–so many things make trump look bad and obstructionist, but that hasn’t stopped him so far. That’s my biggest frustration so far. He keeps getting away with all this shit; making it more difficult, IMO, to bring him down. He keeps moving the goalposts, so to speak, and which one do you chase?
glenn
an hour ago
ueller is tracking the goalposts
Harleigh
an hour ago
Ad–well, only trump could make repubs turn against the FBI, too.
glenn
an hour ago
so true, glenn, just when you think, ‘there’s the last straw’ it isnt! Grrrrr!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
PPO – That’s what I think, Mueller already has many sealed indictments just waiting in the Grand Jury and no doubt, has NY AG Schneiderman ready to bring the hammer down on Trump and cronies if anything happens to his investigation.
AdLiban hour ago
Harleigh–that’s my hope; that Mueller is tracking all of this.
glenn
an hour ago
PPO–yup. There is no bottom any more for trump and repubs. They just keep digging lower and lower.
glenn
an hour ago
Harleigh – I don’t think so, Dems could turn the tide against them if they leak classified info. I don’t think they leak the memo, they just have to put it to a vote in The House and they can override Trump. And House Repubs may not want ads against them saying they voted to hide the truth.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad–I hope you’re right about those sealed indictments, especially if they’re in NY.
glenn
an hour ago
My puter is about done. keyboard periodically disables. not reliable and some keys don’t work and it restarts by itself sometimes. Have to power down, hold down powerkey for 15 seconds and start again. shit
Harleigh
an hour ago
Harleigh – built in redundancy. Cheaper to get a new one. do a backup right now!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Harleigh–are you under investigation somewhere? LOL! Seriously, maybe it’s time for a new puter.
glenn
an hour ago
glenn – I hope not but if Trump fires Rosenstein and appoints an interim person to be Mueller’s boss who will close down his investigation, he may need to rush out indictments.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad, sometimes near enough can be good enough
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
yep… whe get the money PPO
Harleigh
an hour ago
glenn – I do agree, Trump has become more emboldened as he gets away with more and more obstruction of justice but Mueller has him dead to rights. In the end, I’d bet on Mueller taking him down one way or another.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad–here’s a fantasy–wouldn’t it be nice if the person trump appoints to be Mueller’s boss encourages him to continue the investigation? Again, a fantasy, but it sure would be great!
glenn
an hour ago
Harleigh tell the Kochs your opening a PAC for Trump. !
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Russian hackerbots!
Harleigh
an hour ago
glenn – I’ve heard it from multiple sources, it would make a great deal of sense for Mueller to have sealed indictments already filed with the Grand Jury so he can move on any of them immediately if necessary.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad–not sure I’d take that bet right now. As long as we have the cowardly congress critters we have now, nothing is going to happen to trump. Hopefully, Mueller can get the indictments in before the elections, so repubs can be seen to be obstructing justice, too.
glenn
an hour ago
glenn: ‘Mr president I’ll be loyal to you” then, Mr Mueller, ‘keep up the great work! Nail the Bastard!’
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Ad–sounds good to me. But if he already has the indictments, what is he waiting for?
glenn
an hour ago
PPO–yeah, I like that!
glenn
an hour ago
Harleigh – Just got a new computer today. My old one had trouble with the “o” key but I rode it out until the whole keyboard and a memory card went bad. Lots of great laptops out there that aren’t an arm and a leg.
AdLiban hour ago
They’re singing John Lennon’s “Imagine” at the opening ceremonies now.
glenn
an hour ago
thanks AD, soon as I get the money….
Harleigh
an hour ago
what did you get?
Harleigh
an hour ago
glenn – And think about this, if Trump appoints someone to be Mueller’s boss who tries to kill the investigation, Mueller could indict him for obstruction of justice too!
AdLiban hour ago
Such a moving song, especially the part about a world without countries, considering how North and South Korea are competing as one country. Very fitting!
glenn
an hour ago
haunting, glenn. Saw it live last night.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
left out ‘and no religion too’
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Ad–interesting…
glenn
an hour ago
but but… jebus!
Harleigh
an hour ago
Ad, nice weapon there!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
PPO–you mean when they sang it, they left out, “no religion too” or I left it out?
glenn
an hour ago
They left it out
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
PPO–wow, that’s interesting. I really wasn’t paying attention to all of the lyrics, I just heard the melody.
glenn
an hour ago
Wait until you see the 1200 drones!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Harleigh, I got a Lenovo. I splurged a little since it’s been a long time since I bought a laptop but I just looked, they have one here that’s $279:
glenn – I believe Dems will win back the House in Nov then they will have all the power they need to investigate and even impeach Trump. This insanity will get reined in then. And the Manafort trial will be in the Summer, that will only whip up more positivity for Dem voters and kill enthusiasm for Repubs.
AdLiban hour ago
hope so
Harleigh
an hour ago
Ad, such a long wait, and can the world economy keep going?
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
falling asleep… later folks…
Harleigh
an hour ago
glenn – He’s probably waiting to finish up the Trump interview if he can get it.
AdLiban hour ago
Seeya Harleigh! Good luck with the computer!
AdLiban hour ago
‘Nite Harleigh, sleep well.
glenn
an hour ago
night, H
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Ad–even if the Dems win in November, they won’t be able to impeach trump until Jan., when they take their seats.
glenn
an hour ago
tooo long!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Sorry but you can’t neuter out the “no religion too” from Imagine and not ruin the song. I’m a purist when it comes to Lennon.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad–OMG–wouldn’t you love to be a fly on the wall for that trump interview? Some pundit somewhere, I don’t remember where, said that the trump/Mueller interview should be on PayPerView, and all of the profits should go to the VA. Great idea!
glenn
an hour ago
glenn – But when the Repubs get crushed, they will be terrified and skitter away from Trump so even though it will be a couple of months, hard to see Repubs helping Trump with anything after getting badly spanked in the election.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad, true. Don’t know why they did it.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Ad–yeah, it does kinda ruin the song when that is taken out.
glenn
an hour ago
glenn – We could pay off the $20 trillion national deficit if they did the interview between Trump and Mueller as PPV!
AdLiban hour ago
Ad–hope they skitter back to their caves.
glenn
an hour ago
Murph!!!
AdLiban hour ago
Murph–how are you?
glenn
an hour ago
Hiya M!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
I am watching the Winter Olympics Opening Ceremonies….the North and SouthKorea joint march was so inspiring….and Pence and Wife sat impassively through it and then turned their backs on it. Hate the POTUS and VPOTUS.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Ad–ain’t that the truth? It would be a worldwide event!
glenn
an hour ago
Murph–yeah, we were talking about that earlier. We decided that pence is a prick, and trump is an even littler one!
glenn
an hour ago
Pence is one Ignorant fuck, excuse language
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Hello to PPO- the folks from Oz looked mighty good when they marched in as did the Zealanders…..
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
PPO – Because they worried about insulting religions…which is why that’s in the song! If there were no tribes, imagine how much better everyone would get along. Not to diss religion, countries, etc. but “us and them” is embedded conflict in human society.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad–hell, all I can imagine right now is no republicans in congress. That’s enough of a stretch for me!
glenn
an hour ago
Hey there Glenn…I had a wonderful dinner tonight. Atlanta Thin Cut Plank Steak with a Shrimp, Mushroom and Spinach side dish, and another of hashbrowns. OMG!
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Ad–Not sure if there were no tribes, we would all get along. We, as humans, would find something to disagree about.
glenn
an hour ago
I loved that, but especially little Ireland! Bunch of skeleton nutjobs (anyone going down a bobsled track head first is plain bananas!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Aren’t these Opening Ceremonies classy…and so clearly shaped to be universal.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph – But you have to appreciate Pence having opportunities to show what a dick he is. Like wasting all that taxpayer money to walk out on a football game because a player took a knee.
AdLiban hour ago
Murph–That sounds yummy!
glenn
an hour ago
glenn – Hey…that would be a good parody song. “Imagine November”.
AdLiban hour ago
Drool, Murph!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
PPO–The other athletes I find bananas are those guys who do flips on skis!
glenn
an hour ago
Murph – That sounds like a deluxe meal. I had dinner but you’re still making me hungry!
AdLiban hour ago
Imagine no republicans, its easy if you do, No trump or pense or Sessions, and no kelly too
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
glenn – I didn’t mean people wouldn’t be people, there will always be conflicts but when there are tribes, “us and them”, when it comes to race, religion, nationality, it’s more extreme.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad–Imagine all the congress, making laws that help, you may call me a dreamer, but I’m not the only one.
glenn
an hour ago
Wait until you see the big air snowboard downhillers. Lunatics, the lot of ’em
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
PPO–good one!
glenn
an hour ago
I do enjoy the skiing the most. The figure skating is nice but the skiing events make you hold your breath.
AdLiban hour ago
glenn, …. why don’t we vote ’em all out, and vote in a better one
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
PPO–I’m going to do my best to do exactly that!
glenn
an hour ago
PPO–Lunatics is a good word for those snowboarders!
glenn
an hour ago
glenn
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Ad–I like the skiing too.
glenn
an hour ago
“Imagine all the Trump Scum, living in the joint…”
AdLiban hour ago
Ad–the best lyric yet!
glenn
an hour ago
PPO…..Ad….I bet there is a collaborative possibility here in new lyrics for Imagine based on PPO’s startup
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
So, folks, got to dash. See you all next week. Take care
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Glenn tossed in her contribution…woooo hoooo!
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
PPO–see you. Take care!
glenn
an hour ago
Ad, use what you need!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
So long PPO!
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
“You may say he’s a schemer, but he’s not the only scum. I hope one day, Mueller jails him, and the world will cheer as one!”
AdLiban hour ago
Hey CL!!!
AdLiban hour ago
Hello everbody!!! Hi AdLib. FINALLY got a free Friday to see y’all!
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad–maybe that should be the Saturday theme song! Get all the Planeteers to contribute!
glenn
an hour ago
There was a moment that has just been rebroadcast of the Great Leaders Sister reaching over to grasp the hands of another woman…the wife of the President of South Korea?
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Hey CL–how are you!
glenn
an hour ago
Choice….choice….choice….choice…..Hoooo Rah!
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph – Absolutely, that’s what I was saying! I think we’ve got something here!
AdLiban hour ago
Hey glenn – wonderful to see you. How are YOU?
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph – great to see you.
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad–OMG–that’s even better!
glenn
an hour ago
If you write it Ad, I will post it at Yabberz and promote.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Murph – Absolutely, that’s what I was saying! I think we’ve got something here!
AdLiban hour ago
CL–same ole, same ole. I am thankful to have a very stable, happy life.
glenn
an hour ago
That’s VERY nice to hear, glenn. How good that is!
choicelady
an hour ago
Choice…PPO just left us and Harleigh a while back…we few, we happy few, we band of Trump Detestors!!!!
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Great to see you here, CL! What are you up to?
AdLiban hour ago
I just scrolled up and saw the new words to the Beatles song. I’m ALL for it!
choicelady
an hour ago
CL–C’mon and join us with your lyrics!
glenn
an hour ago
Choice…would you drop a note at my Yahoo Box please. I would like to chat with you (maybe by phone…I need a very insightful woman’s POV to help me with a voter project I am working with). Game?
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
I’m coming out of several months of nursing my husband through hip replacement and aftermath then another family member through eye surgery and my own eye problems that are now better. ENOUGH already.
choicelady
an hour ago
Cool Murph, thanks! It should be like tonight, a group collaboration!
AdLiban hour ago
Murph – yes indeed. I will write but probably tomorrow.
choicelady
an hour ago
Sorry I missed PPO and Harleigh though.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL–oh my! With all you have going on, we feel honored to have you here with us.
glenn
an hour ago
Guys – if WE come up with the lyrics I would add graphics at Yabberz…..
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
CL – Wow, you’ve had your hands full! How is hubby doing?
AdLiban hour ago
Choice…thanks….no great hurry but you are a very wise person and your perspective would be of tremendous value.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
It’s lovely to be able to BE here. This “maintenance of life” stuff is for the birds. AdLib – Greg is doing GREAT, finally, but it’s a long slog.
choicelady
an hour ago
Flattery will get you everywhere, Murph!
choicelady
an hour ago
Murph – Sounds good!
AdLiban hour ago
CL…so pleased that your significant other Greg is doing well….
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
CL…not flattery…truth.
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
So does anyone have thoughts about the Asst. AG resigning today? Some think it’s going to be fine – another career person. I have no idea.
choicelady
an hour ago
Ad….we can collaborate directly on this by e mail and phone….it really could be the kind of thing that goes viral…
MurphTheSurf3
an hour ago
Yes – his hip replacement has been worth the difficult first month. He’s pain free. Wheeee!
choicelady
44 minutes ago
CL – How far along is he on recovery?
AdLib44 minutes ago
He passed his 3 month marker – all is PERFECT, and now he can tie his own shoes. The importance of this cannot be overstated.
choicelady
44 minutes ago
CL….I work with a lot of older people (like me! HaH) and your landmark here is precisely as you say…not to be overstated…it marks so many milestones in one simple act.
MurphTheSurf3
43 minutes ago
CL – It’s not a good thing. Trump can now appoint a temporary Asst. AG then fire Rosenstein and have his person shut down Mueller. If Trump fires him, Mueller may need to roll out indictments ASAP.
AdLib43 minutes ago
And my other ‘patient’ can again see well enough to reclaim his drivers license. And I JUST got a clear read that my macular degeneration has been halted for the moment. Since it requires injections INTO the eye, I’m thrilled.
choicelady
42 minutes ago
CL – That’s great to hear! Can he tie your shoes too?
AdLib42 minutes ago
Ad – the issue as some have explained is that Trump has no candidates as Asst. AG. Whoever it is HAS to be confirmed by the Senate, and he has no one to send them.
choicelady
42 minutes ago
Ad…your reading is mine as well. She jumped because she did not want to be drawn into the maelstrom. I cannot blame here but wish she could have hung in.
MurphTheSurf3
42 minutes ago
Ad – LOL – I have long tied my own!!!
choicelady
41 minutes ago
CL…and good news for you. Macular degeneration…I was not aware of this.
MurphTheSurf3
41 minutes ago
CL – Very happy to hear your treatment has halted your MD! I know I told you this but PPO also gets those injections so you’re not alone.
AdLib40 minutes ago
I have both wet AND dry, and were it not for recombinant DNA, I’d be blind. I inherited it, and the wet cropped up, moved FAST, and is now back under control. Means I don’t have to go so often. Whew!
choicelady
40 minutes ago
Oh – I didn’t know about PPO. This stuff is AMAZING. Didn’t exist 15 years ago. However, we get the bill each month – don’t PAY it, but they charge, $14,000 PER INJECTION. Medicare pays $457, our private a little more. My wonderful doc refuses to charge UNINSURD patients more than Medi-Cal (Mdicaid) reimburses the hospital. He’s a great guy.
choicelady
38 minutes ago
CL – Here’s the thing, that’s true for a peranent replacement but in the interim, he can put in any cabinet member for example, who has already been approved for their position by The Senate. That person can serve indefinitely until or unless Trump nominates a permanent replacement. Like he installed Mulvaney into the CFPB immediately as an interim leader.
AdLib38 minutes ago
I need to share with you both a story I came across in my neck of the woods. There is a “packer plant” two towns over….I know the owner. I ran into him at a dinner and he shared with me that he will lose 32 workers if DACA is not dealt with. Half of them are in critical functions requiring much training and experience. His comment to me: “Shit, this thing is hitting ME in the gut now….I voted for Trump and he is kicking me in the ass!”
MurphTheSurf3
38 minutes ago
I’m not sure that would work in this case. But yes – he might selected a henchman. But I’m also betting he thinks he’ll get off without having to fire Mueller. He’s that egotistical.
choicelady
37 minutes ago
Murph – Brand could see that she would have her reputation destroyed when she refused to fire Mueller and she would be fired anyway. Hard to see the upside other than sacrificing herself to buy Mueller time.
AdLib36 minutes ago
Murph – that story seems to be the story of your town!
choicelady
36 minutes ago
Don’t blame Brand. We will just have to see what comes. But ultimately The Donald is doomed.
choicelady
36 minutes ago
CL – Your doctor is a hero!
AdLib35 minutes ago
A friend from NY said the AG there (whose name I cannot keep in my head) has 26 sealed indictments ready to go.
choicelady
35 minutes ago
I’m back, had to leave for a while, so I’m just going to jump back in. CL, glad to hear you don’t have to have those injections any more. I remember you talking about them before. And…that your husband can tie his own shoes. You might want to think about buying him loafers, though. LOL!
glenn
35 minutes ago
The GOP are working overtime in throwing up flack and chaff to confuse the public perception of the Mueller Investigations by playing into the positions held by an unthinking base…..my friend was of those folk…no longer.
MurphTheSurf3
35 minutes ago
glenn – I still MAY have them, but not nearly so frequently. And the best part is I CAN SEE CLEARLY again.
choicelady
35 minutes ago
CL…I have read the same thing about ready to go indictments
MurphTheSurf3
34 minutes ago
Murph – people ARE easily hornswoggled.
choicelady
34 minutes ago
CL…they are until it is their ox being gored.
MurphTheSurf3
34 minutes ago
Murph–I’m sure you tried to warn those trump voters; they have to live with it, as do we, unfortunately. I’ll bet it still doesn’t stop him from voting republican in the next election,though. They never learn.
glenn
34 minutes ago
Best part of Schneiderman (???) doing the indictments? Trump can’t pardon himself or anyone else.
choicelady
34 minutes ago
Murph – I have to hope that this kind of thing is happening around the country, Trump voters who are finally facing the reality of the policies they voted for smacking them down. They don’t have to vote Dem, just don’t vote Repub or for Trump again. BTW, congrats on a Dem winning a seat in MO!
AdLib33 minutes ago
CL–keeping my fingers crossed that your sight stays clear.
glenn
33 minutes ago
glenn – thank you!
choicelady
33 minutes ago
CL…yes pardon power is reserved to the federal level…..and indictments at that level will make federal indictments more likely.
MurphTheSurf3
33 minutes ago
Ad…I was as surprised as you about the Mo. win for the good guys.
MurphTheSurf3
33 minutes ago
CL – I’m hoping that too, that Trump’s hubris will lead him to face off with Mueller and not try to fire him.
AdLib33 minutes ago
If the Orange Man had a lick of sense (OK – we know he doesn’t) he’d find some lingering disease that makes it essential he resigns.
choicelady
32 minutes ago
Ad did you see Colbert and ???? egging the prez on to face Mueller….saying that they were sure he could show up that Mule Mueller
MurphTheSurf3
31 minutes ago
Ad–I’m hoping that trump’s arrogance will lead him to face off with Mueller. Hubris is too nice a word for trump. I so badly want him to meet Mueller under oath. And, as we’ve discussed before, he’s been getting away with his shit all of his life, and so far, for all of his “reign”, so I can’t see him changing, no matter what his lawyers say.
glenn
31 minutes ago
CL – I’ve heard that Mueller has many sealed indictments with the Grand Jury too. If Trump tries one more time to stop Mueller, I think he and Schneiderman stand ready to crush him, his crime family and his cronies.
AdLib31 minutes ago
Murph – LOL!!! That’s the ticket! Challeng his macho!
choicelady
31 minutes ago
Ad – Schneiderman would make mincemeat of Trump.
choicelady
30 minutes ago
A jurist I know says that Mueller is playing out the line as far as he can to see how many fish he can land while waiting for the right moment to snag the whale.
MurphTheSurf3
29 minutes ago
glenn – I think you’re correct.
choicelady
29 minutes ago
Murph–yeah, I saw that too. It was Colbert and John Oliver. It was priceless.
glenn
29 minutes ago
AH! Colbert!!!
MurphTheSurf3
29 minutes ago
Murph – the list of fish gets longer by the day.
choicelady
29 minutes ago
Murph – I think there’s going to be blowback to all of Trump’s attempts to obstruct justice. Even now, one after another conspiracy theory that’s supposed to be “worse than Watergate” turn out to be quickly proven as frauds, many Repubs are going to see this all for what it is.
AdLib29 minutes ago
Murph–I have always wondered why Mueller is taking his time with this; your explanation makes sense. Mueller is a smart man, and he’s been down this road before with the kind of mob mentality that surrounds trump.
glenn
28 minutes ago
With the amazing wins by Dems in MO and elsewhere, with the numbers of resignations from Congress, the rats are already desrting the sinking liferaft.
choicelady
28 minutes ago
Murph – Yep, very funny. Everyone should be complienting Trump on how brilliant he is and how he can easily outplay Mueller. He’s dumb enough to eat it up and do it!
AdLib27 minutes ago
I’m more pissed Drmpf is refusing to release the Dem memo. NOT sure what would happen to Adam Schiff if he just DID it. BTW I’m having lunch with him and about 50 other people on the 20th. I intend to sit near him to hear clearly what he has to say.
choicelady
26 minutes ago
CL many of those resignations are from those who want to take the money and run or are hoping for some plush appointment (like a federal judgeship…trump is that stupid)
MurphTheSurf3
26 minutes ago
Maybe, but I think they’re running scared. resigning won’t help those who took Russian rubles and have committed illegal acts. I’d LOVE Nunes to resign, but he’s in this up to his neck.
choicelady
25 minutes ago
Ad–yeah, that conspiracy memo! As far as I can tell, the FISA court shouldn’t have approved the warrants because the info came from Dems. Yet, if the shoe were on the other foot, and it was repubs giving info on Hillary or President Obama, the investigations would’ve begun so fast,heads would spin. Of course, we’ve already had investigations of Clinton, based on repubs’ stupid books, but WTH, that doesn’t count!
glenn
25 minutes ago
The jurist I know says that he thinks the Mueller has a designate in his office who is carrying all of the charges in a “box” with a trigger- Mueller’s firing. The day or night it happens….the indictments hit the papers and all hell breaks loose.
MurphTheSurf3
25 minutes ago
glenn – I wonder if Trump may say no to Mueller and Mueller will subpoena him to testify to the Grand Jury. Then we probably have a legal battle that goes to the SCOTUS and will finally force Trump to testify. Then, will he take the 5th or think he can outsmart Mueller?
AdLib25 minutes ago
CL…you name dropper you! Be sure to pass along the intel.
MurphTheSurf3
24 minutes ago
CL–Actually, I think Nunes should stay right where he is; sooner or later, he’s going to go implode along with trump. He should be charged with obstruction of justice, too.
glenn
23 minutes ago
glenn – the info came only in a small part from the report. NO FISA warrant is ever given with single source data. It was that they could confirm it from other sources that led to the warrant. The existence of the report from Steele was duly noted as coming from Dems – even tho GOP operatives for Rubio started it. It was NOT the reason for the warrant.
choicelady
23 minutes ago
Glenn…re. the FISA matter….let me get this straight….you expect the GOP to play by the rules that Dems are tethered to? Really…how liberal of you.
MurphTheSurf3
23 minutes ago
Murph and glenn – Mueller is going to go after the POTUS with criminal charges, he wants to get all the pieces in place to back himself up and try to cut out all the corrupt Repubs with Trump (hear that, Nunes?).
AdLib23 minutes ago
glenn – I actually agree about Nunes if it weren’t for the fact I detest him, he’s from CA, and I’d like to see him twist in the wind.
choicelady
22 minutes ago
Murph – I KNOW. It’s not every day I get to say I’m lunching w Adam!
choicelady
22 minutes ago
CL – Dems can get the memo released and override Trump with a vote in the House. Dems just need to scare Repubs that they will run against them as collaborating in obstruction with Trump.
AdLib22 minutes ago
I will try to be on that evening to say what he says.
choicelady
21 minutes ago
CL…give me a spin when he is twisting…..scurrilous lout!
MurphTheSurf3
21 minutes ago
Ad – that’s a brilliant strategy. Hope they can do it.
choicelady
21 minutes ago
Nunes twisting – definitely will be headline info.
choicelady
21 minutes ago
CL…I agree with your thinking re. Mueller’s strategy…broad and deep goes the scapel.
MurphTheSurf3
21 minutes ago
Ad–pretty sure trump will say “no” to Mueller in the beginning, “on the advice of his lawyers”. I’ve been reading about whether or not a sitting president can be subpoenaed. That’s one for the courts, as you say. Wonder how long trump will drag that out. I think if trump finally does testify, he may take the 5th a few times, but try to outsmart Mueller when he feels he is right. Ought to be interesting, in any case.
glenn
20 minutes ago
glenn – Clinton had to appear before the Grand Jury. Why not Trump? I don’t know the fine points of the law.
choicelady
20 minutes ago
glenn – And the truth is that Carter Page declared he was working with the Kremlin years before and was being watched long before he was on Trump’s campaign.
AdLib19 minutes ago
Some legal scholar said he CANNOT take the fifth since his position is NOT that of a private citizen. That will be fun to litigate.
choicelady
19 minutes ago
Trump’s greatest foe is his own mouth propelled by his ignorance and arrogance.
MurphTheSurf3
19 minutes ago
Ad – yes, a FISA on Page was issued 2013.
choicelady
19 minutes ago
Murph – That would make a lot of sense. Mueller is too strategic not to have an emrgency plan if Trump moves to fire him.
AdLib18 minutes ago
Murph – and it’s #45’s mouth that actually is the nation’s saving grace.
choicelady
18 minutes ago
CL–I know that the dossier was not the sole reason for the warrant. It’s the repubs who don’t know that, or who don’t want the American public to know that. At least the trump supporters. I was trying to distill the repubs “argument” down to a few sentences.
glenn
18 minutes ago
Hey….didn’t you know that Carter was only kidding, or wasn’t there, or never said it, and, of course, had no contact with Trump…or with Russians!!!
MurphTheSurf3
18 minutes ago
That’s what my neighbors tell me.
MurphTheSurf3
18 minutes ago
CL–yes, Clinton had to appear before the grand jury, but you and I both know it’s different if it’s a republican president.
glenn
17 minutes ago
glenn – yes, his supporters had major egg on their faces when it became clear the existence of the dossier had been revealed. Nunes then said, “The font was too small. Judges wouldn’t read the footnote”. LOL!!!
choicelady
17 minutes ago
Glenn…the precedent in the appearance before the GJ is pivotal.
MurphTheSurf3
17 minutes ago
Nunes will be hard to beat, he’s in a very red farm district in CA. But in a wave election, it’s possible and would be so sweet.
AdLib17 minutes ago
Ad – Nunes is NOT secure if we do reg there. It’s 44% Latino. I think he’s quite beatable.
choicelady
16 minutes ago
Just so Nunky would be scared….I ask so little.
MurphTheSurf3
16 minutes ago
CL–Oh how ironic that would be, if trump couldn’t take the fifth. As we all know, trump is his own greatest enemy, so if he has to testify, he’ll surely get caught in all his lies.
glenn
16 minutes ago
Murph – your ask is quite reasonable.
choicelady
16 minutes ago
glenn – we all hope for him twisting his words and statements and never getting untangled.
choicelady
16 minutes ago
Nunes will be hard to beat, he’s in a very red farm district in CA. But in a wave election, it’s possible and would be so sweet.
AdLib15 minutes ago
Murph–yes, the precedent is there, but that won’t stop trump’s lawyers from trying to litigate it to drag out the process.
glenn
15 minutes ago
Does anyone here think trump will resign if Mueller starts dropping indictments?
glenn
13 minutes ago
Ad – I could live with Nunes winning IF we can take back the House and put him on the Monumnts and Plaques committee.
choicelady
13 minutes ago
Well gang……this was so much fun…..but time to closeup shop. I have a new dog…a Morkie…and he is all energy…getting him trained is another part time job but it is going well.
MurphTheSurf3
13 minutes ago
CL – Lunch With Adam – The Movie!
AdLib13 minutes ago
CL–Nunes could be on the Naming Post Offices Committee. I’ve heard that’s a plum job.
glenn
12 minutes ago
glenn – it’s a mixed issue. If he resigns, he can be arrested. If he stays he can be impeached. I love it when a thief has no real “out”.
choicelady
12 minutes ago
glenn – that would work. But he wouldn’t be able to determine the NAMES on his own.
choicelady
12 minutes ago
Murph – what’s a Morkie? Yorkie I get, but the M?
choicelady
12 minutes ago
M is Maltese!
MurphTheSurf3
11 minutes ago
Sounds cute as all get out! Enjoy!
choicelady
11 minutes ago
CL – Janz is behind Nunes by single digits now which is within reach but he’s still an underdog in that red district.
AdLib11 minutes ago
MurphTheSurf3
10 minutes ago
CL–I hope Dems have the courage to keep hounding him. After all, when Nixon resigned, he walked away scot free. Yes, he was disgraced, but trump doesn’t have the sense to be ashamed or disgraced. Not to mention all of the trumpettes who would paint him as a victim.
glenn
10 minutes ago
Awwwww – adorable!
choicelady
10 minutes ago
Murph–too cute!
glenn
10 minutes ago
I don’t know, Trump is still a citizen, I think it’s more likely that he can claim the 5th but if he does, he’s saying he would incriinate himself!
AdLib10 minutes ago
Morkie’s name…Mork of course (as in Mork of Mindy fame- my tribute to a comedian who I miss quite a bit)
MurphTheSurf3
9 minutes ago
Ad – a constitutional scholar said the president has a unique space where the 5th is not usable since he represents the gov’t.
choicelady
8 minutes ago
Ad–yup. That’s why his lawyers don’t want him to meet with Mueller. Although, I can’t see how he gets out of it.
glenn
8 minutes ago
glenn – I think if we get back Congress, the Dems are ALL IN on impeachment. Problem is conviction w/o 2/3 in the Senate. UGH.
choicelady
8 minutes ago
Murph – Mork is a VERY good name for him.
choicelady
8 minutes ago
Mork Murphy
MurphTheSurf3
7 minutes ago
Alliterative, too.
choicelady
7 minutes ago
glenn – Nope, I don’t think Trump would ever resign unless he was in Nixon’s position and facing a certain removal.
AdLib7 minutes ago
And I am Mork Murphy’s Master
MurphTheSurf3
7 minutes ago
CL–I’m not worried about trump being impeached if we take back the House. I’m talking about if he resigns, what will happen. When Nixon resigned, no charges were pursued.
glenn
7 minutes ago
Puppies and kittens are a LOT of work! I stupidly took a 3 month old kitten last summer. She’s growing up fine, but I’m still exhausted.
choicelady
6 minutes ago
Although there are days when I am sure that he is calling the shots.
MurphTheSurf3
6 minutes ago
Morkie! Gotta love it!
AdLib6 minutes ago
Murph–Awww, cute name!
glenn
6 minutes ago
glenn – Pence could pardon trump which is why Schneiderman’s charges are critical. NO ONE can pardon him from those.
choicelady
5 minutes ago
Well…on that note of cuteness and in the hope that Trump’s downfall has been foretold here…I bid you all a good night.
MurphTheSurf3
5 minutes ago
Murph – of COURSE Mork is calling the shots. You had any doubt?
choicelady
5 minutes ago
Ad–if Dems take the house, trump could be facing certain removal.
glenn
5 minutes ago
CL – I’m hoping Schneiderman in NY will hold back indictments until Trump is out of office in 2021 and take him down then.
AdLib5 minutes ago
Good night Murph. Good talking with you.
glenn
4 minutes ago
CL…outstanding point re. Schneiderman. Again, my jurist friend says that Trump could spend the rest of his life in court….
MurphTheSurf3
4 minutes ago
Good night, Murph! I’m fading away, too – long days even now. But I had to say HI to everyone! Hope to be back more regularly.
choicelady
4 minutes ago
Glenn….so grand chatting……happy days in the week ahead.
MurphTheSurf3
4 minutes ago
Good. I hope trump has to spend the rest of his life in court, and the rest of his money paying for it!
glenn
4 minutes ago
Murph – that would be GREAT. Trump doing NOTHING but defending his stupid self.
choicelady
4 minutes ago
Good night everyone. Stay well! Lovely to see you all again. ‘
choicelady
3 minutes ago
Good night CL. Take care of yourself and your family. Hope to see you soon.
glenn
3 minutes ago
glenn – But Trump is so hated and has attacked so many more than Nixon, I think people will be rooting for him to be criminally charged once he’s out of office.
AdLib3 minutes ago
glenn – hope to see you, too.
choicelady
3 minutes ago
Night CL! Take care!
AdLib3 minutes ago
Best to Greg!
AdLib3 minutes ago
‘Night Ad and Murph, too. will send your regards, Ad. Thank you.
choicelady
3 minutes ago
So, if everyone else is leaving, I’ll go too. G’nite all.
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