Vox Populi – 11-10-2017

see you in a few

pinkpantheroz

Back now! Well, how is the Roy saga going? Has Hannity finally blown it?

pinkpantheroz

Droit de Seignior – Boss Fella has first legover, eh?

pinkpantheroz

please let it happen that InsHannity gets the chop

pinkpantheroz

But the entire Fox Network is complicit

pinkpantheroz

Evenin’ Ad, how are you? And, PPO, how are you?

glenn

hiya glenn, how are you, dear lady?

pinkpantheroz

I’m doing well, PPO, and you?

glenn

Like an old sofa spring. Less a boinnng, rather a creak!

pinkpantheroz

C’mon, guys, how else can a good ole boy tell if a girl is “unsullied” unless he catches her young!

glenn

I wonder, if Murdoch senior went away, would anything change there? With his sons, probably not

pinkpantheroz

glenn, ask her brother!

pinkpantheroz

Same ole, same ole with me, Ad. Doing well.

glenn

PPO–good one. Or her cousin!

glenn

fer sure, li’l buddy

pinkpantheroz

see the rats are abandoning the SS Moore

pinkpantheroz

Ad, they are even tweeting that they’d vote for a ped Republican sooner than a Democrat!

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brb

pinkpantheroz

makes sense, Ad. The swing voters are the ones we need to convince with the Dem message. What is that, BTW????

pinkpantheroz

don’t have cable

pinkpantheroz

Sorry, Ad, I meant what is the DEm Message?

pinkpantheroz

You know, my fav columnist in the local Atlanta paper has an interesting comparison today. When people who are considered “liberal” or “elite” or “Hollywood” like Louis C.K., Kevin Spacey, Roy Price of Amazon Studios, Harvey Weinstein, Mark Halperin, and others, are just accused of sexual misconduct, the reaction is swift. All of these men have lost contracts, their jobs, etc. Yet Roy Moore gets defended. Or the people say, “IF the charges are true.” Not one person said that about the men previously mentioned. IOIYAR.

glenn

glenn, HP reports that it is true, that Moor let it slip

pinkpantheroz

PPO–basically, Moore said he “didn’t ‘generally’ date young girls. A non-denial denial, something at which repubs are great at!

glenn

near enough – good enough for me, g!

pinkpantheroz

Spot on, Ad.

pinkpantheroz

Ad–As you know, I’ve been saying this since the presidential election. It’s not enough to say “vote against trump”, although that is persuasive right now. But for 2018, Dems have to say “Here’s WHY you should vote against trump.” As you say, most of trump’s die-hard base won’t vote against him, because they want to stick it to liberals. The Dems have to give indies and Dems a reason to get out to vote, not just “vote against trump.” If that’s the case, those voters will stay home; and trump voters won’t.

glenn

Maybe, Ad, but don’t Mid-terms usually go against the incumbent party? Still, I agree the Dems need to say why you should vote Dem, not just ‘against Trump’

pinkpantheroz

Ad–I agree. Moore has basically said he did what he’s accused of. However, as many have pointed out, repubs aren’t going to vote for a Dem, no matter what the repub candidate has done. Our current “president” has proven that.

glenn

sad but true, glenn

pinkpantheroz

Ad–one of the anchors on CNN had a repub on today, and when the repub started spouting how it was Moore against the Washington Post, the anchor very forcefully corrected him. “These are not the WP’s words, these are the words of this woman, her voice, her words, and the corroboration of about 30 other people. It’s not the WP.” Thought that was a great answer. And, I don’t think it will be long before the woman or some of her “supporters” will be on TV.

glenn

Ad–which is exactly why, IMO, Dems have to have a coherent, consistent message. Here is what we want to accomplish if you elect us to Congress. And, in 2020, if Dems are in power in Congress, or even one of the chambers, they should further that with “here’s what we can do with a Dem president.” Of course, Dems have to put up a good nominee, preferably someone young.

glenn

exactly glenn

pinkpantheroz

ANd lose Bernie Effin Sanders while they’re at it!!!!

pinkpantheroz

Ad–I do agree with all you’re saying, but I hate to see the Dems become the new party of “here’s what we’re against” rather than “here’s what we’re for.”

glenn

brb

pinkpantheroz

PPO–I think Sanders’ influence on the party has been mostly good. He has pulled them more to the center, rather than less to the right of center, if that makes sense. The Dem party has been pulled to far to the right, IMO, and needs to get back to at least the center before we can go the left/progressive side. That is Bernie’s contribution; like any politician, though, he has let the influence of “self” outweigh what he’s really fighting for.

glenn

Ad–agreed. I would love to see one of them on TV. I’m sure every news outlet is vying for them to be on.

glenn

Well, one thing the Dems will have, is plen ty of negative stuff to air, but they’ll have to be careful not to overload

pinkpantheroz

Ad–see, we are in agreement. You are absolutely correct, we definitely have to put a check on trump’s dictatorial tendencies.

glenn

PPO–yup. They need to pick two or three of the biggest negatives (will be hard to choose, I know) and go with those over and over, just like repubs do to Dems.

glenn

Ad–you’re correct, the first thing Dems have to do is regain control of at least one of the chambers in Congress. Then we can work from there.

glenn

Ad–I have a question for you. The other day lyin’ Ryan said that the House has passed ove 400 bills since trump has been in office. I’ve been trying to do some research on what they are, or if they are just bills the House has passed, and not the Senate. Do you have any further clarification on this?

glenn

Ad, I thought Bernie was a positive during the campaign but ever since it seems to me here that he has been white-anting (termites nibbling away in the dark!) the dems and can’t seem to get over the dissapointment

pinkpantheroz

Ad–I’m hoping 2020 is not Bernie’s year; as I say, I think he’s better suited to help bring the party further to the center/left. Who do you see as 2020 noms? Any predictions?

glenn

True, Ad. glenn, the ‘bills’ are all normal day to day approvals for spending stuff, purchasing stuff and minor day to day workiings of Gov’t that need formal approval( rubber stamp stuff)

pinkpantheroz

Ad–I know. That’s basically what I was asking. Ryan was just trying to cover his ass. It’s like saying, “I wrote a list of what I’m going to do, but just haven’t done it yet.” He was just trying to “show” how “productive” republicans are. What a jerk!

glenn

Saw this list of “up and coming” Dems a few weeks ago. Copied it into my notes on my computer, but didn’t put the source in. Joe Crowley, N.Y.; Hakeem Jeffries, N.Y.; Cheri Bustos, Ill. Bottom row, from left: Linda Sánchez, Calif.; Joe Kennedy, Mass.; Steny Hoyer, Md. The only ones I’ve ever heard of are Kennedy (of course) and Hoyer. What do you think of the list? Do you know any of them?

glenn

Could not agree more, Ad. Dems need to refocus forward. You can’t go anywhere looking in the rear view mirror, except backwards. Losing baggage will be a help as well.

pinkpantheroz

Ad–boy, you’ve got that right. Dems need to get their act together, beginning with the head of the DNC. He needs to start appearing on the Sunday shows and getting people fired up about voting against trump.

glenn

Ad–yeah, it would be nice to see a fresh face like Obama.

glenn

Sorry, folks, gotta go its 3pm Sat here so shopping to do. Take care. BTW, I see KT of old on twitter. did we upset him here??

pinkpantheroz

Have fun PPO. Hope to see you next week. Take care!

glenn

Ad–it would be nice to see another woman candidate for the Dem nom. She would a perfect foil for trump. But whoever it is, let’s hope s/he is strong and progressive.

glenn

Ad–Alrighty, then. Your opinion means a lot to me.

glenn

So, do you think 2020 would be the time for Warren? Do you think she’d run? Are Dems still better off with her in the Senate?

glenn

I would love to see Warren debate trump. That would be awesome!

glenn

Ad–I’m with you on that, too. Dems need to stop being centrist, and start being progressive.

glenn

Okay, I’m done for the night. Take care, Ad, and hope to see you next week.

glenn