Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hope to see you then!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey Harleigh!
AdLib 7 days ago
Am I here? I’m on my phone
Harleigh
7 days ago
Yep, you’re here!
AdLib 7 days ago
Are you still here?
AdLib 7 days ago
Here I am!!
Harleigh
7 days ago
Welcome back!
AdLib 7 days ago
This is a hoot from my phone no less.
Harleigh
7 days ago
It works pretty well, I’ve had to do the same some nights for Vox. It’s handy!
AdLib 7 days ago
So what do you think about the election now that the conventions are over?
AdLib 7 days ago
I’m still voting for Hillary despite all the email BS.
Harleigh
7 days ago
Of course!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey glenn!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey Ad, Hey Harleigh. I thought the Dem convention was fantastic. It made me proud to be a Dem.
glenn
7 days ago
glenn, night and day from the dark RNC Convention of Doom!
AdLib 7 days ago
Also, I’m with Harleigh. I’m voting for Hillary. There really is no choice.
glenn
7 days ago
Ad–The positivity was wonderful; as you know, I’ve been talking about that for weeks–they must have read my mind! The other thing that struck me was the diversity of speakers, as well as the diversity of the delegates and other people in the arena. IOW, it was America like it is, not like it used to be!
glenn
7 days ago
Exactly. It’s not a decision any sane person needs to make! Support the sane candidate or empower the insane one.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad…but…but..but what about those emails? /s/
glenn
7 days ago
glenn – I did get a bit snowblind from staring at that GOP audience. It was smart to go positive, agreed on that and hoped that’s what we’d see…after all, it’s normal for a convention!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hmm…emails or treason for supporting Russia’s cyberattacks on the US? Tough decision which is worse!
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–don’t you love all these republicans who say the Dems stole their “stuff”. As if, as Jon Stewart, republicans are the only patriotic Americans. And how about that Muslim father asking trump if he’s read the Constitution? Loved it.
glenn
7 days ago
Ad–c’mon, he was only joking! Or being sarcastic! Or…something….
glenn
7 days ago
as if, as Jon Stewart says…
glenn
7 days ago
glenn – It’s like accusing someone of stealing an old bicycle you left out in the front yard to rust.
AdLib 7 days ago
Let’s all tell Trump we believe him on that…then say that we were just being sarcastic!
AdLib 7 days ago
What’s up docs?
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Ad–actually, I don’t even see it that way. Dems are just as patriotic as repubs, we just see the solutions differently. I think that is what the two conventions showed the best. Dems want to solve problems by working together; repubs want to solve problems by building walls and excluding people.
glenn
7 days ago
Hey KT! Waiting for Trump to start wearing a Russian military uniform and demanding salutes.
AdLib 7 days ago
KT–how goes it?
glenn
7 days ago
He may as well!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Ad–I thought trump already is demanding salutes!
glenn
7 days ago
Hey glenn!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
glenn – Just joking about how the Repubs abandoned patriotism except in their rhetoric a long time ago.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–and the Constitution.
glenn
7 days ago
What a week!
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
He’ll end his tweets with Thank you tovariches!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Hey Murph–it was indeed a great week!
glenn
7 days ago
The RNC and DNC were sort of like the moon. Very dark on one side, very bright on the other.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Hey Murph! Yep, historic nomination for Hillary and historic treason for Trump! a Twofer!
AdLib 7 days ago
LOL! I’ll have to send that to my brother. He lived in and worked in Moscow for several years. He also speaks Russian. Hell get a kick out of that.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Ad–his hair almost matches his epaulettes!
glenn
7 days ago
KT – In song titles, the RNC was like “Sympathy For the Devil” and the DNC was “We Are Family!”
AdLib 7 days ago
WATCHING Cornel West right now arguing that the Bernie people should be voting for Jill Stein now….he has been Dr. Sour Grapes ever since he realized that he was not going to be part of an Obama kitchen cabinet……now he is trying to screw with Clinton as his successor.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
KT–what does tovariches mean?
glenn
7 days ago
I prefer Everyday People, but I get your point.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Brother in arms.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Glenn…Comrade.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Cornel West has been a screwball for a long time, indeed, spiteful of the Dem Party since not being invited to the first Obama inauguration. Who cares what he says, he has no followers.
AdLib 7 days ago
Npt exactly Murph. It’s more like brother in arms or brothers in a struggle. Samey same, really.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Thanks, KT and Murph.
glenn
7 days ago
“All Together Now”?
AdLib 7 days ago
Tovarich is more personal.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Ad–I agree. Cornel West is so “yesterday”!
glenn
7 days ago
That’s a good one Ad.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
And Maher keeps invited West on his show where he dominates the conversation. WHY? First show after the convention. yap, yap, yap, yap.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
West and Smiley are Tweedle Spite and Tweedle Whine.
AdLib 7 days ago
or Canned Heat’s Let’s work together!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
“We All Live in A Yellow Submarine”?
glenn
7 days ago
Murph–what does West say about Muslims? Because, if he hates them, then Bill Maher invites him for that reason.
glenn
7 days ago
How about one for the RNC? We All Live In A Fascit’s Wet Dream?
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
KT–LOL!
glenn
7 days ago
Maher is pals with Ann Coulter. He displayed more islamophobia this past week and oblivious racism by describing Mexican immigrants as having lawnmowers in the back of their pickups. Don’t forget, Maher spent a lot of time at the Playboy Mansion exploiting women. He’s not the nicest guy.
AdLib 7 days ago
Glenn- good articles for you on your question. http://theislamicmonthly.com/cornel-west-on-the-place-for-muslims-in-america/
Cornel West on the Place for Muslims in America
In the broad range of interviews we have conducted over the years, this was by far the one interview that could not have been better timed in both its scheduling and in the convers…
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
KT – A song about Trump becoming President…”Worldwide Suicide”
AdLib 7 days ago
Glenn …and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mny9J3FeF8c
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
I’ll never understand how those two can be friends. Did you also know that Coulter is a devout Grateful Dead fan? This tells me that all hey crap is more of an act, than anything else. She knows there is big money in controversy. Like Palin.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Maher makes jokes about everybody Ad. He tries to be edgy with a little mild ethnic humor. A lot of comedians do.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Sarah Palin was asked to speak at next week’s Republican National Convention, but apparently the roughly 3,000-mile flight is too long for the former governor of Alaska to make the trip to Cleveland. “She was asked,” Donald Trump told the Washington Examiner in an interview Thursday. “It’s a little bit difficult because of where she is. We love Sarah. Little bit difficult because of, you know, it’s a long ways away.” Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/trump-sarah-palin-republican-convention-225541#ixzz4Fr6KobxS Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook
Trump: Palin not attending RNC because Alaska ‘a long ways away’
Sarah Palin was asked to speak at next week’s Republican National Convention, but apparently the roughly 3,000-mile flight is too far for the former governor of Alaska to make …
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
The thing I hate most about Coulter is her damn smirk! I think you’re right, KT; I don’t think she actually believes a word she says, but the money is in the shit-throwing!
glenn
7 days ago
And the real reason for a thousand Alex!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
KT – Coulter is a phony, all about being outrageous and making a living off of it. She has no morality or principles…so there has to be something about that which Maher connects with.
AdLib 7 days ago
Yep, and that weido can throw some feces.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Murph–I know, that was too funny! Why couldn’t Trump just send his plane for her?
glenn
7 days ago
Coulter and Beck are cut from the same cloth….both a money grabbers who will say anything if it grabs the spotlight.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Yep!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
KT – I’ve heard from someone who knew him that he is not the nicest guy.
AdLib 7 days ago
Just like Alex Jones. I know those idiots can’t believe half of the bullshit they toss out there.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Actually, the palindora box of lunacy has been pretty quiet lately. No tweets or facebook rants?
glenn
7 days ago
Glenn…the Trump people eventually said she had been asked to give one of those mini-speeches and she regarded that as a slap.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Ad–I think Maher is in love with himself and those kind of guys are never the nicest guys. Kinda like trump.
glenn
7 days ago
I noticed the word patriotism earlier when I first arrived. The repubs don’t have patriotism. What they have is rabid nationalism. The dems have patriotism. Big difference.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
KT–well said!
glenn
7 days ago
Suddenly Alaska is too far from a camera for Palin? Doesn’t sound quite right to me!
AdLib 7 days ago
KT…and their nationalism is ill considered….often working toward the detriment of the nation they say they love.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Maher does seem to have a pretty big ego. I have to say though, he can be quite funny. With writers too, of course.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Ad…are you accusing Sarah of bein disingenuous?
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Murph–not to defend her, but I don’t blame her. After all, she “launched” trump’s run, didn’t she? Plus, she DID support cruz in his senatorial run, and we all know how trump feels about cruz.
glenn
7 days ago
No doubt Murph.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
glenn – Same here, she is such a sham and she loves all the attention she can get by saying the most hateful things she can imagine.
AdLib 7 days ago
Glenn….Trump is a use ’em and lose ’em kind of guy…which is pretty much Sarah’s story too…that has got to hurt.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
good point Ad. Palin couldn’t do a remote video? Trump just didn’t want her babbling at the convention, like she did in her endorsement…speech?
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Poetic Justice.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Murph – How can I accuse Palin of a word she can’t even spell?
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph–I know. Ain’t it wonderful? (about palin hurting)
glenn
7 days ago
Ad…Yuk, Yuk!
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
She was outraged when the McCain campaign wouldn’t let het make a concession speech!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
i guess chickens do come home to roost after all!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
KT…remember the book and film Game Change…that moment is one of my favorites…she thought the VP race was independent of the Prez!
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Oh yeah Murph! She was piiisssed!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
KT – Yes, that was so funny when she wanted to make a concession speech! What a self-important barbarian she is!
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph–“thought” and palin don’t belong in the same sentence together.
glenn
7 days ago
Glenn….quite so.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Hey, she thought Africa was a country.
AdLib 7 days ago
I loved Woody Harrleson’s performance as Schmidt!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
KT…and woody began his career as the kid barber on Cheers…how far he came.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
No doubt. He went Ohio State before he got into acting.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Muph–kid barber?
glenn
7 days ago
Hey Pink!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
BTW, Maddow reporting the Rothenberg Political Report’s projection of the electoral vote, Hillary way over 300.
AdLib 7 days ago
OH…kid barkeep!
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
PPO there ya GO! Good to see you!
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Murph–
glenn
7 days ago
HI all, just catching up
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
BRB guys.
glenn
7 days ago
did you see any of the conventions P?
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
And 4 forecasters all saying Hillary wins electoral vote…before she even gets her convention bump. Trump is toast…as long as we GOTV!
AdLib 7 days ago
Serious note….here in MIssouri….CLinton and Trump are tied in the polls….here in Missouri..and the Dems are making a strong showing in the state races.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
People can’t take a win for granted. We definitely have to GOTV!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
That’s a pretty good sign Murph.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Murph – Been looking at MO’s polls, it is just amazing! I’ve said it before, I think Trump will make Goldwater’s loss look close.
AdLib 7 days ago
Kt, Yup! We had a replay of the PBS Newshour on our SBS service here each day. Wow, what a contrast to the GOP schemozzle. You could actually follow what people were saying!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Ad….I was contacted yesterday about joining the GOTV effort here….there is a chance Clinton could win here….Remember my Lystrata Ladies? Several of them are already “in”.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
And can you imagine how the polls will keep moving towards Hillary after the debates? If Trump participates in them, that is.
AdLib 7 days ago
Trump doesn’t have the women’s vote, he doesn’t have the black vote, he doesn’t have the Hispanic vote, he doesn’t have the LGBT vote and he doesn’t have many veteran’s votes. That’s a lot of votes NOT to have in order to win a general election.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Kt, perhaps, but the GOTV is still vital.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
oh, no doubt. I’m just trying to estimate how badly Trump is going to lose. I want us to win in the biggest landslide in US political history.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Murph – There will be many Trump supporters who would vote for him if he pulled off his head and exposed himself to be Satan but some may be genuinely patriotic and care about this country. Electing a Moscovian Candidate could be a bit much for them.
AdLib 7 days ago
The Debates…My prediction. He claims they are FIXED and UNFAIR and says he will not participate ….. and then when he loses claims that it was media bias that lost him the race.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Ad, I wonder if his ego will force him into debates with HRC? I know there are 3 lined up, but If I were in Trump’s camp, I’d be cautioning him to avoid face to face confrontations with her. Of course, thatsw a red flag to a bull(Y)!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
He says he can’t wait to debate Hillary, but we all know that 99% of what comes out of his mouth is a lie.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
KT – Yes, there aren’t enough hateful white men out there to elect Trump but as PPO says, GOTV is still critical…but Trump will be the best motivation for Dems to vote.
AdLib 7 days ago
i think he needs a psych eval! I’m serious!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
No doubt Ad.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
KT, he’ll just stand there for 90 minutes saying, ‘Excuse Me, Crooked Hillary” over and over, as he pisses his pants.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
AD Trump’s relationship with Russian Banks is just as troubling.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
That’s about right P. That’s all he has is playground taunts.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Was President Obama awesome, or what?
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Oh, he’s smoochin Putin’s ass, big time. I would love to see Trump not only lose the election, but his “billions,” as well. Can you imagine Trump being poor?
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Murph – I don’t think so, Trump wants attention so desperately, I can see that winning over his fear of failing in a Presidential election. But at the same time, Hillary’s campaign should put together a media blitz to use if he doesn’t debate, attacking him mercilessly as too cowardly to be President. “If he’s afraid to debate Hillary, how can he face off with our enemies?”
AdLib 7 days ago
PPO…I commented on Trump and the debates earlier….I think he will dodge them.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Good line, Ad! Hope the DNC use it!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Sorry, Murph, latecomer.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Our wonderful Rottweiller Elizabeth Warren has had her teeth in Trump’s ass for a while now, and she’s not about to let go! I love EW!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Ad…the man is not releasing his income taxes….he will get his attention from his people by standing up to the LIBBY MEDIA…if (when) he accepts that awful loss heading his way.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Murph – If Hillary wants to win over Repubs, she should be hammering Trump as Putin’s puppet, a Russian operative. They hated Obama for being “a commie”, how about Trump being in bed with Putin?
AdLib 7 days ago
Oh, yes, KT, more of EW’s skewering
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
PPO…just suggesting you might want to look back….I am glad you are here.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
I love to watch her chew Trump a new one!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
I’m back. My take on the debates, is they will depend a lot on the moderators. If they let trump take all the air out of the room like he did in the repub debates, Hillary may not be able to get in a word. If that happens,though, if I were her (she), I would just let him go on and on and hang himself with his own words!
glenn
7 days ago
PPO – Yes, Obama was just fantastic!!! That was his last major speech to the nation, will miss him enormously!
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad….I predict the Obama leaves office on a wave of praise AND that his time in the Public Spotlight is far, far from done.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Obama, by far, is the smoothest, coolest president we ever had! The same goes for his wife.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
glenn, you’re right. I hope the moderators tell him to STFU with his hectoring ‘Excuse Me’s’ .
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Ad–The ironic thing is, the repubs will miss Obama, too. Many of them have already admitted that in so many words!
glenn
7 days ago
Murph–I hope his time in the public spotlight is far from done; on the other hand, the man deserves a rest!
glenn
7 days ago
Their heads are really going to explode, with a woman president.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Murph – Knowing how critical the image of being a “winner” is to Trump, there can be no greater justice done to him than his losing massively. The name Trump and the word “Failure” will always be intertwined and it will drive him mad.
AdLib 7 days ago
glenn, so true. Now they won’t have him to blame for doing nothing in Congress any more.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
no, now they’ll blame HIllary, of course.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
PPO–oh, now they’ll just blame Hillary. No problem for hypocrites!
glenn
7 days ago
Ad…but Trump is a master at dodging accountability…he has to set up the “I was cheated” meme early…..
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
KT–jinx!
glenn
7 days ago
Coke!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Maybe, but also, maybe there will be a Democratic Congress in the not too distant future!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
I sure as hell hope so glenn. We really need one.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Murph–you’re so right! He has already dodged responsibility for the RNC. He says all he did was “show up”. In that respect, (dodging responsibility), he is a true repub.
glenn
7 days ago
Murph – I know Obama will continue to be engaged but having him as President, we won’t see his like in our lifetimes.
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph, spot on. but we need to pre-empt that strategy by politicizing it everywhere.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
I think you’re right Ad. Obama is the Jackie Robinson of politics.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
glenn – Why will the Repubs miss Obama? Because they won’t be able to rally racism against Hillary?
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad, no just the female thing!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Ad–maybe, but some of them are saying they will miss his calm demeanor. Not in so many words, but that’s what some of them are saying.
glenn
7 days ago
What did you all think of Hillary’s speech?
glenn
7 days ago
President Obama was a little naive about the GOP, in his first year. Hillary knows them all too well by now.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
glenn, if that’s the case, then the GOP sounds as terrified as we are if Trummp hets to codes!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Murph – Well…the bottom line won’t be that he just barely lost, he will have been crushed. And whining about it will only make him look like an even bigger loser. Can’t wait! Only 100 days!
AdLib 7 days ago
KT–ain’t that the truth? She had them pegged when Bill was president when she talked about the “vast right-wing conspiracy.”
glenn
7 days ago
I liked it glenn. I thought a few lines in the beginning were a bit corny, but it was nice to see her so filled with joy! It was a monumental moment for her and all women.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
ad….he got crushed by Obama for his birther foul play…..did not stop him from claiming he was not.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
glenn – steady, poised not very flamboyent. Just the right amount of everything to show the yawning chasm between her and Don the Con.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
PPO–many of them are! I believe as the race continues, and trump continues to melt down, many more will come out and denounce him. It’s already happening on a small scale, now. Trump will still have his “base”, but it’s shrinking rapidly.
glenn
7 days ago
Glenn…Hillary’s speech was about as good as she can do…she is no orator…..but she avoided the HRC Shriek and used a more wonkish tone…I think it worked well enough. Her ideas were generally excellent.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Trump is defeating Trump, and has been all along!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
KT, took effin’ long enough for the hoi polloi to wake up!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
i clearly noticed Murph, at one point, she actually did sort of muffle her cackle.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Murph – But he was sheepish about his whining and who cares how he BS’s about things, as long as the majority of Americans and the world see him as a loser, he’s seen as a loser no matter how he cries.
AdLib 7 days ago
Can I say muffle her cackle in public?
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
better than cackling her muffle!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
I agree everyone. I think Hillary came across as calm and I did love the way she emphasized her plans. She also admitted that she’s no orator, which I think helps her.
glenn
7 days ago
Damn straight P.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
LOL, P.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Helps her by gaining empathy from other people who couldn’t get in front of people in a million years!
glenn
7 days ago
Hey, would you guys want to have to follow Obama, Michelle and Booker?
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
KT–You mean follow HIllary?
glenn
7 days ago
KT, Michelle was the secret weapon of the convention.. BOOOOOOM!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Ad….Trump is in such a bubble that self awareness is nearly impossible for him…he really believes that he is “Only I”
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
No glenn. They spoke before HIllary on previous nights.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
What a class act our FLOTUS is! Our President chose well! Says a lot about him.
glenn
7 days ago
She was pretty awesome. That is one sharp lady.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
glenn – With you on that, I think the debates will be a real catalyst in cleaving voters away from Trump (I do think Trump will debate). The more the idjit swing voters start to tune in and seriously consider if Trump should be our President, the more votes Hillary will get. I’ve mentioned this before, the majority of late deciders in the GOP Primary voted against Trump in huge numbers. As the election nears, see if that isn’t the case.
AdLib 7 days ago
Trump’s speech was a gastric juiced, bile filled shitslide!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Glenn…when I worked for the Obama campaign in 2008, Michelle was called “the closer” because she could win over those who were not yet sure of whether they wanted to jump on the O Train….
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
I, for one, loved the way that almost all of the speakers used trump’s own words and deeds to belittle and lay him out for scorn. ‘Believe Me!” indeed
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
A tad reminiscent of old Benito himself!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Murph – I think there’s a part of Trump that is terribly insecure and doesn’t necessarily believe all the bragging, which is why he has to do so much of it. Confident people don’t overdo the bragging because they doon’t need to (they may brag a lot but not this much).
AdLib 7 days ago
KT–Oh, I see what you mean, now. Personally, I didn’t think Booker was so great. Although I did like his answer to trump. When trump criticized his speech, Booker responded with something like, “He is free to criticize me, but I send him my love.” That’s one way to shut trump down!
glenn
7 days ago
KT – Now that is a winning description of Trump!
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad….I believe he is a classic sociopath and reality is very, very far from the field of tehir play.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
i really liked it glenn. I thought he was quite impressive.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Murph–that’s a great description of Mrs. Obama. She is indeed a “closer”. She must have been awesome as an attorney.
glenn
7 days ago
It fits, doesn’t it? I forgot to ad dyspeptic!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Ad–I don’t think there’s a part of trump that is terrible insecure. I think all of trump is terribly insecure. There is something seriously wrong with the man.
glenn
7 days ago
Glenn…I got to be part of the road crew for one of her tours….she is a marvel who has said that her FIRST JOB is to keep the President healthy (physically, emotionally, spirtually)
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
One item tey forgot to mentionwas that talk of Trumps where he bragged about screwing sub-contractors and going into bankruptcy, because he could and it was within the law. says a lot doesn’t it?
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Murph–I’m impressed! Is she is great in person as she is in public?
glenn
7 days ago
I would have liked someone to say, “You know who says ‘believe me’ the most? Someone who knows you really shouldn’t believe him. Who says ‘believe me’ the most? Con men because their con only works if they’re sure you believe them. So when you hear that phrase again, ‘believe me’, just remember that only a con man needs to repeat it!”
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–I believe you!
glenn
7 days ago
Ad, Didn’t the VP pick for Hillary do just that?
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Ad, back in the 80s, people in Cal told me that when someone says “trust me,” what they mean is “fuck you.”
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
glenn – Maybe you’re right about Trump, he does act like he’s way overcompensating for a small…self-confidence.
AdLib 7 days ago
The Rothenberg Political Report has Clinton winning 332 electoral votes to Trumps 191 and those results are repeated to greater or lesser degree by every major forecaster…all ahead of any Democratic bump from the convention…and in the meantime the Trump Campaign has NO announced events for the next 10 days……
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
PPO–You’re right, Kaine did just that. I loved how he mocked trump over and over with his fake voice, saying, “Believe me.”
glenn
7 days ago
And what about MenaLIAR, eh? I see her boi and Facebook pages have vanished! Like most of her face,
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Bio!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
PPO – Kaine did mock ‘believe me’ but didn’t connect it to the tactic of a con man.
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph–just because trump has no announced events, doesn’t mean he still won’t dominate the headlines….still. Today, even the liberal websites disappointed me. Most of the lead stories were about trump instead of about Hillary’s historic accomplishment. Don’t get me wrong, there were stories about Hillary and her speech, but there were all below what trump had to say! I thought it was disgraceful!
glenn
7 days ago
Ad–he didn’t have to, Bloomberg did that for him!
glenn
7 days ago
our media, in general is worthless.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Melaria is being punished for embarrassing Donny.
Harleigh
7 days ago
glenn, it is such a pity that Trump is such a revenue earner for the press. It really sucks, but there it is.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
That’s it P.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Murph – Yes, saw that on Maddow tonight. Coincidentally, had just been on a couple of those sites and others, seeing that PA, WI, MI and FL are looking pretty strong for Hillary, if she wins all of those it will be the rout I think it will be.
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey Harleigh!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
TRump needs Florida, for sure.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
KT and PPO–I hear what you’re saying, but it still disappointed me. The ironic thing is that the HuffPost had Hillary at the top in big bold letters!
glenn
7 days ago
PPO – I’ll bet it was Trump who insisted on the lies about Me-liar-any’s “degree” but she absolutely knew about lifting Michelle’s speech, she’s the one who’s too much of an idiot to know that it would be noticed.
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph and Ad–I hope she crushes him!
glenn
7 days ago
One thing I’m noticing, and wonder if I’m wrong. I’m not hearing much from the Raving Loony Evangelical Bible bashing Department. Coud it be they’re a tad embarrassed that GOD has picked Trump as their candidate ( like they ay each time)?
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Floriduh went Obama twice.
Harleigh
7 days ago
i wonder if Princess Ariana is a HIllary supporter.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Well Ad, look who she “married.”
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Best moment of the convention for me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPg1aPFCk64
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
BRB
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
PPO–no we haven’t heard from them for a while. I think when trump dumped palin, he dumped all her evangelical friends, too.
glenn
7 days ago
KT….she is.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
bill said he remembered what Hillary was wearing the first time he saw her. The first time Trump saw Melania, she was wearing bubble wrap!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Murph–I loved, loved the way he offered trump his copy of the Constitution! And, quoted it, too!
glenn
7 days ago
glenn – Don’t be discouraged, this election will in effect be a referendum on Trump and the more negative slams that are in the news against him, the more Hillary’s chances go up.
AdLib 7 days ago
Makes sense Murph!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
KT–well, at least she was wearing something!
glenn
7 days ago
glenn – Bloomberg did nail Trump so profoundly! And he did call him a con man, really enjoyed that! But let’s keep it up, I would like all voters to see him as the coon man he is.
AdLib 7 days ago
I think there was still a postage stamp on her forehead!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Ad–I’ll take your word for it. Trump does seem to be his own worst enemy. Sure hope our so-called journalists keep digging on the putin connection!
glenn
7 days ago
KT–I’ve read several jokes about how trump kept the box she came in so he can return her when he’s done.
glenn
7 days ago
LOL! Yeah, I’m pretty sure she has a limited warranty.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
KT, it took a while to get rid of the barcode on her ass,
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
PPO – I have seen the evangelist loony leaders coming out for Trump, even at the RNC but I haven’t heard him widely supported by the Religious Right. They should be embarassed to support a living representation of The Seven Deadly Sins.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–don’t think we’ll get all voters to see trump as a con man, but I’ll settle for the majority.
glenn
7 days ago
Ouch!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
PPO–LOL!
glenn
7 days ago
U.S. Army Captain Humayun Khan was killed in Iraq in 2004 when a car blew up after he told his troops to stand back. He was suspicious (which makes sense given his reputation for close observation and logic which he planned to use as an attorney after serving his counry). He took 10 steps forward to check out the suspicious vehicle himself, saving the lives of the soldiers he supervised.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
KT –
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph, Yes, best put-down of Trump all weeek and how brave of his Dad to do that.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
so long Mel, it’s been great…here, take some steaks with you and one of these great hats!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Murph–and coulter tweeted about his father’s accent. And a female radio host said neither Khan nor his father are patriots. She also called for the father to condemn the “radical Islamic terrorists”. What an asshole–the host, not Khan.
glenn
7 days ago
And we’re still waiting to hear from the judge in the Trump University case, if he’ll release the depositions. I think he will, not out of spite but out of transparency, no need to keep them hidden and a real responsibility to let the public know what they should about this weasel.
AdLib 7 days ago
Yeah Murph, we don’t want a bunch of heroes comin over here!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Glenn…that is ALL that their side has to offere.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Murph–yup!
glenn
7 days ago
KT, Trump mutters, ‘Now where do I remove the batteries from?”
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Murph – It was the most powerful speech at the DNC…and that’s quite some feat considering all the great speeches made there.
AdLib 7 days ago
LOL!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
interesting dilema, P!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
What did you guys think of Chelsea’s speech?
glenn
7 days ago
“Dahnald, I vood lyk to speek to Americah agahn. Cood yu plise wynd mee oop?”
AdLib 7 days ago
Well I’m working tomorrow Later folks.
Harleigh
7 days ago
Night Harleigh! Take care!
AdLib 7 days ago
‘Night, Harleigh. Don’t work too hard!
glenn
7 days ago
Everybody fine with the VP pick? Can’t wait for the GOP to start whinging about his fluency in Spanish. The’ll probably want to check his bnirth cert.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Harleigh
7 days ago
Later gator!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Cheers, Harleigh!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
PPO–They’re already whining about his speaking Spanish. The more I see of him, the more I like him.
glenn
7 days ago
Chelsea’s speech was fine if not a bit overly deliberate about what it was intended to accomplish.
AdLib 7 days ago
Break me off a piece of that Kit Kat bar! Followed by a long come hither look!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
The Khan family moved from the United Arab Emirates to the United States in 1980, when Humayun was 2. The family settled down in Maryland, and Humayun went on to graduate from the University of Virginia in 2000, where he joined ROTC. Aspiring to be a military lawyer, he enlisted to pay for law school and to give back to the program he felt had “completed him as a person,” according to his father. His father is an attorney who works as a Legal Consultant to law firms….an expert.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Ad–as most people have pointed out, at least she had face to face interactions with her mother; unlike trump’s kids, who had to discuss his phone calls to them. LOL!
glenn
7 days ago
Ad, I thought it was OK, but a bit stilted inplaces ( think she was reading instructions on the TelePrompter.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
The Hillary intro video was a bit too heavy handed, thought it should be more about normalizing her than trying to raise her to being superior.
AdLib 7 days ago
PPO–Yeah, she takes after her mother rather than her father when it comes to giving speeches. Did anybody notice Bill’s hands shaking during his speech?
glenn
7 days ago
glenn, I saw that, wondered if he’s got Parkinsons or similar. He looked a bit less frail than recently.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
i wonder if Bill can’t wait to be first gentleman!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
glenn – Yep, Trump just imported “moms” for his kids on a regular basis while he was out claiming bankruptcies.
AdLib 7 days ago
PPO–sure hope he’s okay.
glenn
7 days ago
KT–heard he wants to be called, “First Laddie”.
glenn
7 days ago
First Fella
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Glenn….First Laddie…love it, love it, love it!
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
don’t woory Eric, you’ll get a new mom tomorrow, I’m busy right now. Go away boy, you bother me!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
KT, LOL!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
KT–and your mom will be younger than you!
glenn
7 days ago
Ha! He’s no Laddie any more.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Lucky Bill’s first name isn’t Richard, or else he’d be First Dick!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Murph – Watching his father on O’Donnell right now, he is so passionate and moving about the threat of a Constitutional crisis if Trump was to win the Presidency. Such a great speaker, so brilliant!
AdLib 7 days ago
So how we will address the Clintons? Mr. and Madame Presidents? The Presidents Clinton?
glenn
7 days ago
I don’t think I’d like that glenn! WEIRD!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Just saying that to my lady.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
KT–just one more weird thing about trump!
glenn
7 days ago
Ladies and Gentlemen, President CLinton and President CLinton!
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Maybe Bill would be First Dude? After all, The Dude abides.
AdLib 7 days ago
First Bubba?
glenn
7 days ago
That’s perfect Ad. The First Dude. Just not the First Stud!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
PPO–that was bad! Bad in the good sense!
glenn
7 days ago
Ad….I am catching up Rachel now. Lawrence is next. Right now Maddow is showing a segment in which Trump keeps referring to Tim Kaine using the life of Tom Kean (GOP ex gov of NJ and is critiquing him) – what a moron and his staff raises incompetence to the next level.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Queen Consort! ( ducks as hail of bullets flash by!)
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
glenn – Yep, it’s actually an easy decision. Since Bill has been President, he is always supposed to be called President so it would be “Ms. President and Mr. President”. Pretty amazing, really.
AdLib 7 days ago
KT–I could be wrong, but I don’t think Bill is much of a stud anymore.
glenn
7 days ago
I wonder about that old goat sometimes.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Ad–I know, it is very amazing. Think Chelsea will ever run for office. That would be a hoot!
glenn
7 days ago
How about, The Presidents Clinton?
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Ad….the DC protocal people say it will be “Madam President” and “Mr. President”
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Murph – Yes, saw that. Trump couldn’t be more of a public fool, just proves that those morons supporting him have reasons to feel they’re voting for one of their own. Only he has all of his teeth.
AdLib 7 days ago
glenn, why ever not? the bushes had a dynasty going for a while
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Ad…indeed, indeed.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
are you sure those are his, Ad?
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Murph – Right! Madam President!
AdLib 7 days ago
PPO–The three Presidents Clintons!
glenn
7 days ago
Are you sure about the teeth thing, Ad? Or is it yet another con?
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
KT – His teeth are as real as his hair. Well…that doesn’t make anything clearer…
AdLib 7 days ago
How about the Three Amigos…wait, that’s been taken already!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
President Squared?
AdLib 7 days ago
LOL!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
One more thing…the Court decision to strike down the NC voting laws….had immediate effect here…..three packages in our state legislature have been withdrawn from committee discussion.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Signing off now, guys. Hope everyone has a great weekend. Take care.
glenn
7 days ago
Presidents ‘Er and ‘Im.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
You too glenn.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Bye, Glenn!
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
i like it P!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Cheers glenn. Avagoodweekend.
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Don’t have anything against Chelsea but we really don’t need a Clinton reign in the Dem party. Hillary will be enough Clintons for me, so many other choices out there (who aren’t related to previous presidents).
AdLib 7 days ago
Night glenn!!!
AdLib 7 days ago
I wonder which staffer will get stuck with pantsuit duty?
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
well, time to wrap up an amazing week. See you all next Saturday Lunchtime (for me!)
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Later P. Stay loose.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Ad….time for me to wander off…..good discussion tonight. Have you heard from any/many of our larger gang of late….miss them very much.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
Yes, Kt, and how many Ballpantsuits will she order?
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Murph – That’s great to hear! Was actually expecting the NC laws to be overturned, was very good news and couls help elect a Dem Gov as well as help the state go for Hillary.
AdLib 7 days ago
Seeya PPO!!!
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph – We should see some back here soon! Summer can be tough for some! Have a great weekend!
AdLib 7 days ago
Yeah, I guess it’s getting pretty close to closing time. Ya’ll take care now.
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Seeya KT! Have a great weekend!
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad….would love to see them weigh in. Best until next week.
MurphTheSurf3
7 days ago
you too Ad!
KillgoreTrout
7 days ago
Eastbound and down. Catch you on the flip flop
pinkpantheroz
7 days ago
Cheers all!!!
AdLib 7 days ago
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