Vox Populi – 1-15-2016

Hey Ad, how are you?

glenn

Doing well, Ad. So, who “won” the debate last night?

glenn

LOL! But, apparently not a one of those people on stage are buying the meds!

glenn

I may have to buy anti-depressants to get through the next few months. Both of those two scare the hell out of me!

glenn

And, if Rubio is the “third”, he’s no better.

glenn

Hey Murph, how are you?

glenn

Hello there……the site was hard to load….sputtering is what I would call it as it tried to connect…..but then it clicked!

MurphTheSurf3

Glenn…hi there…..

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–I’m pretty sure you’re right. But as someone pointed out the other day on a blog, no one thought regan could win an election, either.

glenn

Ad–great description of Rubio!

glenn

watching Al Gore on Maher….he looks good and is putting forth the importance of the 190 Nation Paris Climate Accord.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–good point!

glenn

Murph–Sounds like a good show.

glenn

Mayer has Cornel West on….I destest him…..his personal hatred for Obama because Obama would not kiss his butt…..and invite him into his inner circle….turns my stomach.

MurphTheSurf3

Trump vs. Sanders….now there is a fight I want to see.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–I’m a little confused. Who is Mayer?

glenn

I detest Cornell West also.

glenn

Ad–okay, thanks. So, he has Gore, West, and Smiley all on the same show? Interesing mix.

glenn

Ad–don’t know about Smiley, but as far as I’m concerned, West is a criminal and should have been court martialed.

glenn

Ad–you know, I think it’s so unfair that black people are treated as one entity. They are just as diverse as white people; and no one expects one white person to speak for all whites, so I don’t know why we should expect it for all blacks.

glenn

Ad–For holding a gun to a prisoner’s head and threatening to shoot him. I think he also shot the gun off, but not at the prisoner.

glenn

Ad–oh yes, it was all over the news in FL when he ran for office there. As an officer, he was way out of bounds! And from what I have read, he was asked to resign before he was court martialed. So, yeah, he’s just another republican hypocrite!

glenn

Ad–is it Hillary controlling the debates, or Schulz?

glenn

Ad–yup. He’s one of those people that a little bit of power goes straight to his head.

glenn

Ad–oops, my bad! You’re right!

glenn

Color my face red!

glenn

Grrrrr…phone call…watching your debate here…

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–me too, and I don’t even live in FL any more!

glenn

My attendance at the Bernie Meeting has led to calls to become an organizer….curse you AD LIB! Hah!

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–but you’re such a good organizer, and such a good persuader!

glenn

Ad….Hillary and daughter Chelsea coupled with Bill looking like he needs an oxygen bottle…not a real energizer for me.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–I agree. I was beginning to believe that she was going to run a much campaign this time, but between the debate schedule, and having her daughter tell lies about Bernie is getting to be too much! Glad to see Rachel take her down a notch last night with her questions.

glenn

The Bernie crowd is interesting……he really is attracking Trump-like angry people too.

MurphTheSurf3

oops…”a much better campaign”

glenn

Ad…I am definitely moving in your direction…Hillary’s coolness is not working for me.

MurphTheSurf3

Glenn and Ad…Bill Maher is HOT tonight! The vacation did him good!

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–I just think Hillary has too much baggage to win in a GE. She generates almost as visceral hate as President Obama does. On the bright side, Bill O’Reilly says he’ll “flee to Ireland” if Bernie is elected. One more reason to vote for Bernie!

glenn

Ad–at the beginning of the campaign, when she was scheming with all of her plans, I gave her a “pass” because I agreed with her plans. Now, I’m not sure that Bernie’s plan for single payer will ever get past the American people, or at least the right wingers, but he’s not attacking the person, Hillary, just her policies. That’s the biggest difference I see at this point.

glenn

One of my great concerns about Bernie was would he be able to deliver….I used the same standard for judging Obama….and his big delivery was his campaign and his well defined policy…that is Bernie right now.

MurphTheSurf3

Bernie would need a woman VP doncha think? Glenn, Ad, any ideas?

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–The thing I like most about Bernie is that he definitely has well defined policy; he’s been working for/on the same policy his whole political career.

glenn

Murph–not sure Hillary would accept VP. If I were her, I wouldn’t, but then again,WTH do I know?

glenn

Glenn…exactly….his campaign web site is brilliant AND anyone running his campaign off of small donations- really doing it- has my profound respect.

MurphTheSurf3

Glenn…for sure not Hillary.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–If Hillary is the nominee, we’d better get out the vote BIG time, because even a lot of independents seem to be leaning toward trump. Once again, because Hillary has so much baggage. And, while most of her baggage is the same old shit repeated over and over again; it won’t help her in a GE.

glenn

I think that to take on Trump, a personality in same vein as Trump will be needed….and that is Bernie. He is idiosyncratic. He is testy. He is passionate. He knows how to rumble AND he has nothing under his bed that can be used to derail him.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–In a way, I’d love to see Warren become Bernie’s VP, but I also think she is doing the most good where is right now. Another candidate, IMO, would be Tammy Duckworth.

glenn

Glenn….every time I see Tammy I get a lump in my throat. What a wonderful person. Did you see how she brought the room to its feet in SOTU AFTER she STOOD to applaud our military.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–didn’t watch the SOTU, but Tammy is a class act, so it doesn’t surprise me.

glenn

Ad…I suppose and I am reading that the “woman mandate” is not what many thought it was……so perhaps a key.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–I agree; cruz would be easier to beat in a GE. He’s so far to the right that he’s just not electable. And, I don’t think independents see him as a serious candidate.

glenn

Ad….Cruz is really in trouble….his NY attack last night was hamfisted and made him appear to be what he is…a divider…AND I think the “Canadian” thing is sticking….an Obama echo with more merit.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–Love it that cruz is having trouble living with the birther crowd, led by trump. Karma is a bitch, ain’t it?

glenn

Hillary in taking on Trump would walk a line…..if she were “tough” she could (and would) be labeled as a bitch….if she is conciliatory she will be labeled weak…if she is policy focused she will be labeled a progressive wonk….

MurphTheSurf3

Ad….you are winning me over.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad……before I forget…..did you send out a reminder re. Vox tonight….if so, I did not see it…and the one from the GOP debate showed up very, very late….just checking…you are a busy person.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–I think either one would be a good pick for Bernie. The Latino vote is important, and trump has all but thrown their vote away, IMO. But the Dems taking them for granted isn’t good either; so a Latino VP would be great. How about a Latina VP? Any ideas?

glenn

Ad….I hope for the Trump/Cruz scenario you lay out.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph/Ad–the trump/cruz scenario would certainly be entertaining!

glenn

Ad….agreed….my labels comment was geared to Hillary…..Warren would be very different.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–agreed about Warren. Of course, she would still be called a bitch, but she wouldn’t have as much baggage as Hillary.

glenn

Ad…exciting.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad….Vox is a highlight of my week and I put it into my e-calendar on my phone….but others – ????? I miss some ofour regulars.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad…no Latina woman comes to mind with a national profile.

MurphTheSurf3

Maher is killing it tonight!

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–no, but I asked you first! I thought between you and Murph, you could come up with someone. I would like to see one of the Castro brothers, though. I’ve heard good things about them.

glenn

I have met Warren…..she is really intense and prophetic….impressive…

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–I know, but as a woman, I know that no matter how genuine you are, you will always be called a bitch. In Warren’s case, though, I think she could handle it with much more grace under pressure than Hillary.

glenn

Ad–that was sarcasm, right?

glenn

Glenn….VERY well said….very well indeed!

MurphTheSurf3

Glenn…did you not know that Ad has a special place for JL in his heart?

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–thanks.

glenn

I saw her in Il at an activist meeting and I was most impressed when she too on the lefty loons who were threatening to take over the meeting…

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–I think JL is great, too. I think she actually is a genuine person as well as a great entertainer. But I’d like to see someone with experience in the VP slot, especially given Bernie’s age. Just being honest.

glenn

Side note…I got a call yesterday from someone who I worked the Obama 2008 campaign…a very talented young woman who decided not to go to law school so she could work for Barack…..we were very close. She just wanted to share with someone from that time how sad she felt to see Obama deliver his final SOTU but also how proud she was of him and of us for supporting him. I told her that Barack is not done…not by a long shot.

MurphTheSurf3

Side note…I got a call yesterday from someone who I worked the Obama 2008 campaign…a very talented young woman who decided not to go to law school so she could work for Barack…..we were very close. She just wanted to share with someone from that time how sad she felt to see Obama deliver his final SOTU but also how proud she was of him and of us for supporting him. I told her that Barack is not done…not by a long shot.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad….there are women who will vote trump….but I agree that support is limited to the most TP oriented.

MurphTheSurf3

Maher is really campaigning to get Obama on his Real Time Show…..I wonder if he would….

MurphTheSurf3

Martinez is very interesting…..I don’t she will play ball just as the Gov. of SC refused to.

MurphTheSurf3

Where did Glenn go…

MurphTheSurf3

I hope we did not offend.

MurphTheSurf3

Glenn! There you are….I was afraid that our banter had somehow offended you…..would never do that for the world.

MurphTheSurf3

Hey guys, I’m back. My computer kept on disconnecting me. No, you didn’t offend me. And, if you had offended me, I would let you know.

glenn

Ad….one of my GOP insider friends says their think tanks believe that a Trump nomination will lose the Senate and the House Majority will shrink- with the TP (aka Freedom Caucus) becoming a larger proportion of the whole….bad news….The will stay strong locally in governor’s offices and state legisltures.

MurphTheSurf3

Glenn…I got tossed off too…not my computer because I was already signed in on another screen……

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–One would think that in all her years of taking shit, Hillary would have learned to be more gracious under pressure, but it seems she never learns her lesson(s). She could take some lessons from Warren for grace under pressure. Or even from Michelle Obama, who is another woman I greatly admire. Hey! There’s a VP pick for Bernie! Let’s keep it all in the family!

glenn

Ad…one more thing about getting to Vox. The last few times I have had to sign in and then go to the drop down menu in the banner head for Vox and click there to get the Vox box on the lower right to appear.

MurphTheSurf3

Ad…the way I see it too

MurphTheSurf3

Glenn…Michelle…you know she has big plans post WH…daughters nearly grown….

MurphTheSurf3

Ad–I wish Dems had a better DNC chair than Schulz, because Dems could be kicking ass in governors’ races, IMO. Just highlight the repubs’ “leadership” like Snyder in MI with his “emergency managers” poisoning the people. Dems aren’t great at taking the offensive and shaping the narrative. I realize we don’t have a “left-leaning” media, but all I hear is right wing opinions.

glenn

Ad….pretty strong…..I have not studied her enough to make that big an assesment.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph–what better way to “cure” “empty nest syndrome” than by being VP? I really am just joking, but I think she would be a formidable opponent!

glenn

Glenn…with you on that…I am in a state where the very red masters of our state legislature give the Dems one in road after another for an all out exposure of their real motivations…and they duck, weave and bob…infuriating.

MurphTheSurf3

Glenn…if her name was Obama…..absolutely.

MurphTheSurf3

Alright guys, I’m going to have to leave now; my computer is trying to kick me off again, so I’ll say good night now. Always enjoy chatting with you two; have a good weekend!

glenn

Why has Debbie Wasserman Schulz held on to her job…don’t get it. She is a bad interview…a real match for Priebus…

MurphTheSurf3

Glenn…..this was really great fun…..so glad we had this time together.

MurphTheSurf3

We three went on for nearly 90 minutes

MurphTheSurf3

Ad…could well be.

MurphTheSurf3

Murph, agreed; it was great fun! Night, Ad!

glenn

She and Bill have an odd relationship no doubt.

MurphTheSurf3

Have you gotten a chance to see Bernies other half in action?

MurphTheSurf3

Jane is super-bright and very well spoken.

MurphTheSurf3

They have one child, a son.

MurphTheSurf3

About Jane. http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-05-12/getting-to-know-jane-sanders-wife-of-bernie

MurphTheSurf3

His son works as a social security disability insurance senior analyst at Boston-based Cambridge & Somerville Legal Services, handling insurance claims in disability cases for both children and adults.

MurphTheSurf3

Levi has worked his Dad’s campaigns

MurphTheSurf3

Well on this great note….I need to move on toward the end of my day……this has been delightful.

MurphTheSurf3

Great….get the word out…..Vox is the place I want to be for moments like those.

MurphTheSurf3

Good night good friend.

MurphTheSurf3