Vox Populi, our live weekly chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7pm PDT. Hope to see you then!
AdLib 12 hours ago
Hey Beatlex!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Hey Ad!
Beatlex

2 hours ago
How’s everything with you?
AdLib 2 hours ago
I am at a loss for words when it comes to Trump.And I am not usually at a loss for words.This is so bizarre,The US for all it’s flaws have at least had someone who knows how to govern in charge.He is mentally ill.We are starting to see cracks in his phony veneer,I literally got misty when I saw John McCain give his thumbs down.This is viceral
Beatlex

2 hours ago
I think it’s just the first big catharsis with many more on the way. Trump is devouring himself with each day and by next year, the indictments from Mueller will finishe the job.
AdLib 2 hours ago
I never thought that I could loathe a person as much as I do him.I have always been a live and let live guy.I HATE what he is doing Ad.I just want Mueller to get to the obvious conclusion and end this sad chapter
Beatlex

2 hours ago
It would be easy to call him names.The over riding thing is his mental illness.I feel for you and Me Ad
Beatlex

2 hours ago
I remember despising Reagan and Bush/Cheney though. The problem is that they keep bottoming (as opposed to topping) themselves. Mueller is doing it, building the case solidly while Trump keeps up his madness.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Oh yeah, he is mentally ill, big time. But the GOP would rather let the US burn down if it means they can get re-elected and keep their hands on power.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Yes Ad,maybe John McCain will go down as the one who started the end of this madness.The R’s,having ignored many of Trump’s outrages,have mobiled to protect Sessions.One of their own
Beatlex

2 hours ago
It seems like a critical mass has been happening. McCain standing up and helping kill repeal, Don Jr.’s, Manafort’s and Kushner’s admission of collusion with Russia, the attacks on the Feds including Sessions and Mueller, it’s all swirling around Trump to bring him down.
AdLib 2 hours ago
I did not like Reagan or Bush either.But at least they had qualified people to support them.Trump is to self centered to allow other voices.And why would Kelly take over as chief of staff? He won’t change Trump.It can
Beatlex

2 hours ago
I know it is a matter of time Ad before it all comes out.It is going to get even uglier before that happens
Beatlex

2 hours ago
Now we can look back and see that but at the time, with Reagan betraying the country and selling arms to our enemy Iran, Bush creating ISIS through a phony war based on lies about WMDs, it sure seemed really bad at the time and it was…little did we know how much worse it could get!
AdLib 2 hours ago
And what happens if there is a real crisis? I shudder to think Ad
Beatlex

2 hours ago
I do wonder, when Trump is either impeached or loses in 2020, whether he might refuse to go and call in the military to protect him from leaving.
AdLib 2 hours ago
The military should refuse but there are some real RW wackos in the military. Like Mike Flynn.
AdLib 2 hours ago
I think it will come to a head by the end of the year,maybe that is wishful thinking,but I think the tipping point is coming soon
Beatlex

2 hours ago
I’m really hoping that we get lucky and no massive crisis comes up while Trump is in the WH!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Hey CL!
AdLib 2 hours ago
No repeal or replace of VOX! Howdy everyone
choicelady

2 hours ago
There ain’t no replacement for Vox!
AdLib 2 hours ago
There sure ain’t! Hi Beatlex – how much room do you have for us in Canada?
choicelady

2 hours ago
Hey CL! Come anytime!
Beatlex

2 hours ago
Should we recount our favorite Priebus memories?
AdLib 2 hours ago
Hey PPO!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Sieg Heil!
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Ad,he seemed invisible….the invisible man…?
Beatlex

2 hours ago
I’ve lived in Ottawa, Nova Scotia, have friends in Toronto and Montreal, so I’m pretty good there in your beautiful nation.
choicelady

2 hours ago
Hey PPO!
choicelady

2 hours ago
Hey all! Enjoying living in MaziLand?
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Beatlex – He was The Incredible Cringing Man.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Sorry Naziland
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Crying man Ad..LOL
Beatlex

2 hours ago
PPO – I don’t know, the death of the repeal bill has me more optimistic about crushing Trump.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Beat, wasn’t there a johnny Ray song abut crying?
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Beatlex – The Whimper Man?
AdLib 2 hours ago
Oz,you tell me!
Beatlex

2 hours ago
Ad – the point Twitter folks made tonight is that his firing of Reince et al. means he’s breaking w GOP mainstream. THAT makes him vulnerable to impeachment FROM GOP mainstream that now includes the wackos.
choicelady

2 hours ago
Ad, referring to suffolk county cops cheering fuckface when he told em it’s OK to beat up people!
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
PPO – We could have a music thread just on Trump-related whining and crying…and cursing.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Such as “Bugger off, Reince Ppriebuse, Bugger off, sung by The Mooch!
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
PPO – Suffolk County PD made VERY clear that they have strict NO HARM policies that WILL be enforced, so woe betide the idiots who cheered for his call to brutality.
choicelady

2 hours ago
cl, have they passed that on to those cheering chumps?
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Trump has ZERO control over his twisted thoughts.He has never needed to watch what he says for his whole life!
Beatlex

2 hours ago
Ad – I think that music thread would be a hoot.
choicelady

2 hours ago
PPO – Most decidedly.
choicelady

2 hours ago
CL – That’s a great point. Trump only knows how to operate out of vindictiveness, his attacks on McCain and Murkowski don’t seem to have helped. Or Mueller or Sessions. He’s turning everyone against him while trying to use his office to overpower them into doing his will.
AdLib 2 hours ago
cl, OK, then
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Beatlex – people who viewed interviews w him years ago say he’s totally fucked up now. Probably has had mini strokes, is early Alzheimers.
choicelady

2 hours ago
PPO – Yep, that will be part oof the GOP platform in 2020, “Pro-Police-Brutality!”
AdLib 2 hours ago
Yes CL! I have always said that once the R’s see him as a liability,they will dump him
Beatlex

2 hours ago
better news from the Hill. Great job by the lady Senators to keep up the protest. John McCain gets an attaboy as well
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Ad and everyone – the more he disses the GOP core, the more vulnerable he is. HE may unite GOP and Dems!!
choicelady

2 hours ago
brb
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Beatlex – Yes, watching Trump is like watching a dumb animal that can’t help but lead himself to slaughter.
AdLib 2 hours ago
PPO – it was his illegal threats to Murkowski and Collins that helped solidify the GOP antagonis,/ And have you heard that Scaramucci (sp?) now has found his wife filing for divorce OVER HIS ALLIANCE with Trump? LOL!!!
choicelady

2 hours ago
CL – I do think Trump is obviously mentally ill. That’s okay with Repubs, as long as he can sign bills.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Ad – We would call that the “Judas Goat” that leads to slaughter but it’s a herd of ONE.
choicelady

2 hours ago
Ad – I think the failure last night means they need to keep their distance from him. That was HIS bill.
choicelady

2 hours ago
HE ISgoing to go down.The cracks in his phony facade are widening.I just want to see it happen sooner,rather than later.He could do something “really stupid” I don’t want for it to go that far
Beatlex

2 hours ago
Beatlex – I don’t want him to go down until we can hook in Pence, McConnell, Ryan with him. Yes – the next president would be Orrin Hatch – I could, briefly, live with that.
choicelady

2 hours ago
CL….one step at a time,if they are guilty,it will come out.I have faith in that
Beatlex

2 hours ago
Beatlex – I do, too.
choicelady

2 hours ago
CL – Trump’s attacks on Sessions and Mueller have already been turning Repubs against him, not to mention his secret Putin makeout sessions. Consider that nearly all Dems and Repubs in Congress have passed sanction bills that take say, “We don’t trust you so you can’t remove Russian sanctions unless we say so.” The dam is breaking already and he hasn’t been in more than 6 months yet!
AdLib 2 hours ago
CL – Are you serious about Moocher’s wife?
AdLib 2 hours ago
Trump will not go quietly…I just wonder in what form his desperation comes out.
Beatlex

2 hours ago
I lived through Watergate as a young activist. This is stunning in how LITTLE time it’s taking to see his utter corruption. We had Nixon (who committed treason by bargaining w Vietnam to keep the war going to win the 1968 election) for SIX YEARS instead of SIX MONTHS. Astonishing difference.
choicelady

2 hours ago
CL is that true about the Mooch?
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
CL – But a Judas Goat leads other animals too slaughter, not itself!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Ad Lib – Yes – I have had the confirmed and re-confirmed several different ways.
choicelady

2 hours ago
Ad – this Judas Goat leads ONLY himself and maybe a few other totally complicit goats.
choicelady

2 hours ago
cl WOW! No wonder he’s gone apeshit!
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
PPO – Moocher’s wife filed divorce TODAY over his obsessive devotion to Trump. NY laws are sticky – hard to GET a divorce – so she has to have pretty definite grounds.
choicelady

2 hours ago
CL – The failure last night also would seem to breed more failure on the budget and tax cuts, which Trump badly wants as do many Repubs. They sure seem to be painting themselves in The Loser’s Corner.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Ad – I think that’s true and I think last night’s vote may have given real courage to some GOP.
choicelady

2 hours ago
cl, Why would anyone sacrifice a marriage for anyone, unless they are runnung a cult. USA you are now officially a cult, Following Papyaface!
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
CL – I have a feeling that indictments from Mueller will be covering everyone of note in the Trump Admin, like a heavy snow!
AdLib 2 hours ago
IMO.What they are going to find is ties to the Russian Mafia AND to Putin.As they say,follow the money.And Trump was stupid enough to put that right out there! He is convicting himself
Beatlex

2 hours ago
PPO – we’re NOT a cult and are pushing back on cultism. Moocher’s wife won’t be part of it. He is SO into his own visibility and power it’s disgusting. Since when does Dir. of Communication FIRE people? That’s the job of the guy who just GOT fired – Preibus.
choicelady

2 hours ago
Beatlex – As I mentioned, I wonder if Trump might just refuse to leave the WH if impeached or when he loses in 2020 in a “rigged” election.
AdLib 2 hours ago
AdLib – I’m consulting w Mikey Weinstein to see WHO will be the military decision makers. I think Joint Chiefs are NOT insane and won’t let this happen.
choicelady

2 hours ago
cl, Right, but has anyone told the Mooch what he can and cant do? Doesn’t sound like it
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
CL – The big difference between today and Watergate days is that the Repubs have no ethics anymore. They know he is out oof controol and corrupt but they’re fine with that if they can pass their repeals and tax cuts.
AdLib 2 hours ago
PPO – apparently NOT.
choicelady

2 hours ago
Ad – I’m not sure that lack of ethics is to the bone. Freedom Caucus, sure. The others may not be so craven.
choicelady

2 hours ago
CL – The Trump Judas Goat keeps saying, “Trust me!” as he walks right into the meat grinder.
AdLib an hour ago
Ad,or he quits,claiming the “deep state” has falsely framed him.I don’t think that will save him legally….Trump never expected to win,but he did,and now the white hot spotlight is burning into his,and his familes crimes.Poetic I think,if it comes down that way
Beatlex

an hour ago
Ad – this is a ‘put up or shut up’ moment for the GOP. I think last night is a MAJOR deal not for health care but for GOP backbone. We;ll see.
choicelady

an hour ago
Ad, he ‘has the pen in his hand’, but has he signed off on the Russian sanctions yet?
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
PPO – No he hasn’t done the bill yet. Not sure where it is in the rota – but if it’s ON his desk, this WILL be interesting.
choicelady

an hour ago
Can we hope to see the last of Mitch McConnell?
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Beatlex – I think Mueller’s going to find all kinds of illegal money laundering and Russian money tied up with all of the Trumps. That’s why he’s so terrified of the investigation and having his tax returns seen.
AdLib an hour ago
PPO – from your lips to God’s ear on McConnell…
choicelady

an hour ago
CL,The cracks in the GOP are getting bigger.It tok for Trump to dis Sessions for them t0o wake up
Beatlex

an hour ago
cl, yes, it will be fascinating to see him wriggle
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Beatlex – that also is a major big deal. I detest Session but see his popularity as a major crack in #45’s total miscalculation.
choicelady

an hour ago
CL – And Moocher isn’t even officially employed until or inless he sells his business. So he’s doing all of this as someone not even employed by the WH!
AdLib an hour ago
Ad – that is so typical of DJT’s way of doing business – never mind the rules, just be obnoxious!
choicelady

an hour ago
It seems to me looking in from here, that the GOP is so fractured, no one is really in charge and they’re utterly lost. AM I seeing it wrong?
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
PPO – you’re entirely correct.
choicelady

an hour ago
CL,he has no plan,he is reacting to events largely self inflicted
Beatlex

an hour ago
Beatlex – Yup.
choicelady

an hour ago
CL – Joint Chiefs aren’t crazy but I wonder how many other Mike Flynns there are out there who would support a Trump military coup. It could never succeed but still…
AdLib an hour ago
So now is the tiime for Dems to step up. But can they?
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
CL – And Repubs didn’t control Congress during Watergate.
AdLib an hour ago
Oz,for now,they are spectactors to Trump and the R’s fall,me thinks
Beatlex

an hour ago
Ad – luckily for us, there is a powerful chain of command. That’s what I want to get clear from Mikey. I think Flynn is OUT – he’s no longer in the military – but others LIKE him need to be curtailed. Seven Fucking Days in May all over again.
choicelady

an hour ago
good analogy, cl. Had me worried
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
AdLib – that is a worry. GOP dominance is a serious problem. Nunes, Gowdy, Rohrabacher, Cotton – dangerous people.
choicelady

an hour ago
Beatlex – Can’t see Trump quitting unless he’s being impeached. His ego wouldn’t let him.
AdLib an hour ago
Ad – It’s no longer his EGO. He thinks (wrongly per Ken Starr) he can’t be touched if he’s in office.
choicelady

an hour ago
CL – The test will be if Repubs work with Dems on fixing the ACA. I’m skeptical about Repubs having a spine but we’ll see.
AdLib an hour ago
PPO – I think Trump was left last night with something in hand, not sure it was a pen. MOOOCHED!
AdLib an hour ago
Ad – Me, too, but the HUGE outpouring of opposition by constituents and the HUGER decline of GOP in the polls in their states means they MAY wise up.
choicelady

an hour ago
BBS
Beatlex

an hour ago
Come right back, Beatlex!
choicelady

an hour ago
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Ad – OK that image either eludes me or disgusts me!!!
choicelady

an hour ago
PPO – Trump doesn’t need to sign the sanctions, their numbers will override his veto or inaction. They’re a done deal and Trump’s dream of getting to 2nd base with Putin goes up in smoke.
AdLib an hour ago
Bannon’s Dick?
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
So there’s a rumor going around that DJT has a mistress at Mar a Lago. MY question is – what woman would be that stupid?
choicelady

an hour ago
PPO – You HAD to go there, didn’t you???? LOL!
choicelady

an hour ago
McConnell has been exposed like The Great Oz, noothing to see here, just a fraud and a failure behind a curtain.
AdLib an hour ago
cl…… maybe blind or deaf?
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Ad – I’m NOT sure but what he doesn’t care about sanctions. He can EO them out of existence.
choicelady

an hour ago
Ad – someone said on Twitter – if you have McConnel (the Turtle) shell – do NOT give it back.
choicelady

an hour ago
PPO – LOL!!
choicelady

an hour ago
CL – Bingo! I’ve seen documentaries about the religious extremists in the military. It’s a legit concern.
AdLib an hour ago
CL – Like all bullies, they think they can get away with anything until someone punches them in the nose then they collapse in tears. And that fist will be Mueller.
AdLib an hour ago
Reince is defending Trump on Hannity! WTF? there must be a ton of dirt hidden somewhere
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
AdLib – that’s why I want to talk to Mikey. If it’s lower level folks, then maybe we’re OK. If not then “It seems General Ripper has exceeded his authority”. I do NOT wish to be caught in a Dr. Strangelove moment.
choicelady

an hour ago
PPO – Reinc will continue to play the good guy until his next mortgage payment is due and no money is coming in. SERIOUSLY – this will change.
choicelady

an hour ago
CL – If the SCOTUS ends up oopposing that gerymandering in the case before them, that could change Repubs behavior very quickly.
AdLib an hour ago
cl, here’s hoping
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Ad – that case is critical. Pray (even if you’re an atheist) for Kennedy!
choicelady

an hour ago
CL – I don’t think Trump is capable of functioning with a woman anymore so I doubt the affair rumor.
AdLib an hour ago
AD, if SCOTUS rules well on GM’ing, how long to undo?
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Ad- that may be true. Doesn’t mean a stupid young thing wouldn’t be willing to TRY.
choicelady

an hour ago
CL – Nope, the sanctions bill specifically says he can’t lift them on his own, Congress has to approve.
AdLib an hour ago
PPO – undoing it is FAST. Happened before.
choicelady

an hour ago
AdLib – I know what the BILL says. I know he doesn’t give a shit.
choicelady

an hour ago
cl, good! Haven’t known
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
BRB
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
CL – Hopefully there aren’t many Mike Flynns out there. I can imagine Trump declaring the 2020 election a fraud and ordering the military to protect him from being removed from office. As long as military leaders are rational, he’ll be out of luck…and maybe arrested.
AdLib an hour ago
Priebus is the nerd at school that is polite to the bully after being thrown in the dumpster.
AdLib an hour ago
If SCOTUS outlaws the gerrymandering, and I actually think they will, 2018 is lookin’ good! That is IF Russia isn’t hacking the Diebolds. THAT seems to be a universal issues with election night last year – sudden turnaround of EXACTLY the same percent in five crucial states. GOP are complicit, but electronic voting (outlawed in CA by our former Sec’y of State) is the key in EVERY SINGLE nosedive of votes.
choicelady

an hour ago
PPO – GM?
AdLib an hour ago
Ad – to quote the best line of a horrible film but regarding Reince in the trash can, “Someboy threw away a perfectly good white boy”.
choicelady

an hour ago
Ad – GM = gerrymandering.
choicelady

an hour ago
CL – True but if he violates the sanctions law and flouts Congress…THEN the Repubs will be more likely to impeach him to protect themselves (the only motivation they operate on).
AdLib an hour ago
Ad – I live in hope that this will finally make men out of the wimps who are GOP.
choicelady

an hour ago
That’s scary, CL but if it’s a landslide against Trump/Repubs, there’s only so many Diebolds that can be messed with.
AdLib an hour ago
Ad – there are murmurs in the GOP about how awful #45 is. I think they will increase.
choicelady

an hour ago
CL – Heh!
AdLib an hour ago
Ad – that’s the truth. If we can carry red districts in Blues states, we can turn this sucker AROUND.
choicelady

an hour ago
PPO – I think the lawsuits will fly immediately if SCOTUS rules against gerrymandering and judges will have no choice but to enforce it. Then Repubs lose their automatic wins in districts and if they have to represent a real mix of vooters, this whole extremist thing won’t work anymore.
AdLib an hour ago
Hoping it goes well, then, ad. Some sanity somewhere, please!
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
TOTALLY off the subject – did anyone see the sign in the pro science rally about Gilligan’s Island? It asked “How many times did the billionaire save them? Never” “How many times did the professor save them? Pretty much every episode!” Well that sign was by my step daughter. We are a very proud family – it went viral!!!
choicelady

an hour ago
CL – What’s very interesting as one pundit mentioned…where were all the Trump supporters rallying for the passage of the repeal? Nowhere to be seen. They are becoming discouraged and by 2018, I think many will just stay home instead of vote. Meanwhile, did you see all the protesters in DC during the voote? And around the country? We have to keep the enthusiasm up and we will crush the Repubs in 2018 and take back at least one House if not both.
AdLib an hour ago
CL – That’s pretty funny! So Is Trump Thurston Howell or maybe Gilligan?
AdLib an hour ago
Whoops, where’s PPO go?
AdLib an hour ago
CL – How long do you think it will take Mueller too come out with his indictments?
AdLib an hour ago
There you are, PPO!
AdLib an hour ago
Sorry guys, Wifi went down. Big windstorm here just now.
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
The wind, like Trump, blows.
AdLib an hour ago
Howell for sure. Here’s the photo;

choicelady

an hour ago
That’s the top of her head.
choicelady

an hour ago
Brilliant, CL!
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Very cool, CL! I’ll remember the top of her head!
AdLib an hour ago
PPO – sorry about the wind. You’re in the middle of your winter so it’s to be expected.
choicelady

an hour ago
not often we get gales here, so it’s interesting!
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Ad – she didn’t even KNOW it until several days later. I had seen it but, frankly, didn’t recognize her hair.
choicelady

an hour ago
PPO – but there’s NO SUCH THING as climate change, right?
choicelady

an hour ago
CL – That must have been a fun surprise when you found out!
AdLib an hour ago
When I heard it was hers, I told her Dad I knew exactly what it was and found it online for him to keep.
choicelady

an hour ago
Ad, of course not. Pure coincidence an iceberg the size of Bali has calved. Nothing to see there!
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
So CL, how long do you think it will take for Mueller to come out with indictments against the Trump mafia?
AdLib an hour ago
AD, I hope Mueller will be slow and steady and get it right first time.
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
brb
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Ad – anybody’s guess. There is SO MUCH they have to wade through, but he has assembled a GREAT team of investigators and PROSECUTORS I live in real hope.
choicelady

an hour ago
PPO – And I thought the iceberg was only as big as Delaware!
AdLib an hour ago
I just want to say that I feel for you my American friends,I have faith that trump too shall pass.And maybe,just maybe,the solitudes of left and right can join for the good of the country.You may say,that I’m a dreamer…I am
Beatlex

an hour ago
PPO – He really has to get it right. If Trump and his cronies were to escape justice, our demoocracy would be devastated.
AdLib an hour ago
PPO – that’s EXACTLY correct – I’d rather wait and have a tight, failure proof case than do it fast and sloppy. However, I’m with the people who post on Twitter, “Please Mr. Mueller – make it happen soon,?”
choicelady

an hour ago
CL – My only concern is that the longer it takes, the greater chance Trump will try to find a way to bury it and fire Mueller.
AdLib an hour ago
Beatelx = I have the same fervent hope. We did this well in 1973-74. We COULD do it again were the will and the backbone present in the GOP. It’s NOT lacking in the Dems!!!
choicelady

an hour ago
Ad – I think firing Mueller is not going to help him. I lived through the ‘Saturday Night Massacre’ in ’73 – it didn’t help Nixon. Some things are way bigger than the individual man, and this is WORSE than Watergate – it involves espionage and maybe treason.
choicelady

an hour ago
Thanks Beatlex though the entire woorld is a more dangerous place with Trump in the WH (I have and will never call him the “p” word). It is inspiring an activism we may now see as normal that wasn’t around so much before Trump. The people are in the streets and activated.
AdLib an hour ago
Trump is self destructing,it just has been in slow motion,held in time by the desire of the right to get their rancid policies passed
Beatlex

an hour ago
Ad – THAT is huge, the activism and the advocacy. We needed that, and we HAVE it.
choicelady

an hour ago
BRB-
choicelady

an hour ago
CL – Once Dems can get back at least one House of Congress, I’ll be less concerned about Trump trying to strongarm the investigation. If Dems take The Hoouse, Trump tax returns will be the first order of business…then impeachment.
AdLib an hour ago
Sorry, folks, gotta go! Patio furniture flying! gotta secure see you
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Bye OZ!
Beatlex

an hour ago
Beatlex – Yes, the real breaking point for Trump coould be during the 2018 election, as Dems run against him and he has nothing to show he’s accomplished. None of his big promises will come true and that will turn off his supporters. They’ll still support him but they won’t be rushing out to vote.
AdLib an hour ago
The R’s turning on him is the key Ad,IMO.We see it already
Beatlex

44 minutes ago
CL – It’s weird but it’s hard to remember now how the public wasn’t activist before Trump, way too passive. Hence, Trump’s win.
AdLib 43 minutes ago
Bad will between the parties really amped up after 9-11.Getting progressively worse
Beatlex

42 minutes ago
Beatlex – One thing Repubs don’t like is a loser. If Trump keeps losing, they will turn their backs oon him.
AdLib 42 minutes ago
He is a looser Ad,it will come into focus
Beatlex

41 minutes ago
Beatlex – Oh yeah, Trump’s been a failure nearly all of his life. Without his Dad giving him $100M, he’d have been selling hot dogs in Times Square today.
AdLib 40 minutes ago
7 Bankruptcies, he even loost money on a casino where people willingly give you their money!
AdLib 39 minutes ago
And the Russian Mafia in the mid 2000-2010 time period.There were no American lenders that woud give him credit
Beatlex

39 minutes ago
Ad – I dont’ think that’s accurate. The movement was growing during the election, but the last minute nosedive of EC votes was deeply suspicious. With 3 M MORE votes for Clinton than Trump, I think this is part of what Mueller is looking at. All of the EC change came in the same time frame, same %. HUGELY suspicious. But I saw amazing uptick in activism DURING the election that sustained through the aftermath and still does.
choicelady

38 minutes ago
Beatlex – his own SON said you’re right about Russian money.
choicelady

38 minutes ago
Right, the Russian Mafia, Russian oligarchs laundering their money through him, Trump is so dirty, of course he’s scared!
AdLib 38 minutes ago
Ad – now it appears evident that the Trump casinos were Russian money laundering schemes never meant to make money. He IS the only casino owner to LOSE money – and that’s why.
choicelady

36 minutes ago
CL – I wonder if any admin would admit to the public that our voting machines were hacked. In trying to protect the public’s confidence in our elections, I could imagine them hiding the truth.
AdLib 36 minutes ago
I have to really wonder about Trump’s most ardent supporters.I thought they would clue in sooner or later.But no,they follow him like sheep.Why?
Beatlex

36 minutes ago
Trump is trying to tell Mueller the LIMITS of his investigation. Like a thierf who says, “You can look anywher EXCEPT the locked room in the basement! Don’t GO there!” Yeah. Right.
choicelady

35 minutes ago
CL – That would be a massive revelation! No wonder Trump is intent on destroying the concept of truth, he knows what the truth is.
AdLib 35 minutes ago
Beatlex – Trump speaks for the white male supremacists. They adore him for that.
choicelady

35 minutes ago
CL,He convicted himself with that statement! He has confessed already!
Beatlex

34 minutes ago
Ad = “Truth? Truth? *I* can’t handle the truth!”
choicelady

34 minutes ago
Beatlex – yup. And Mueller, not deferring the magnificance that is The Donald, is going to look at that locked room in the basement.
choicelady

33 minutes ago
Beatlex – It’s a personality cult of authoritarians. No different than Jim Jones, they just haven’t finished drinking the Kool Aid yet.
AdLib 33 minutes ago
And here we are in the 21st century Ad.I guess we have a lot of growing up to do as a specie
Beatlex

32 minutes ago
CL – Exactly, a crook instinctively tries too hide where the things are he stole.
AdLib 32 minutes ago
CL – They actually have to Google “truth”, Repubs don’t know the definition.
AdLib 31 minutes ago
Beatlex – we have waxed and waned as a people over the decades. I see us now regaining our moxie once again.
choicelady

31 minutes ago
Trump will be caught bronze-handed.
AdLib 31 minutes ago
Ad – LOL!!! Only if his tanning sprayer has been PAID, and that’s highly doubful given his track record.
choicelady

30 minutes ago
CL – Yep, we had a bit of a lull in activism. I’ve said before, it’s unfortunate but Americans generally aren’t activist until they’re really suffering or on the verge of it. Wish we could be longer term thinkers when things are going smoothly.
AdLib 29 minutes ago
Sad but true,the MAJORITY of Americans are politically stupid
Beatlex

29 minutes ago
CL – So Trump leaves his tanning assistant empty-bronze-handed?
AdLib 28 minutes ago
Ad – every time we win – civil rights, anti war-end the draft – women’s rights, we relax and pay no mind to the rising opposition. MAYBE this time we will both WIN and keep eyes wide open to the other side and its perfidy.
choicelady

28 minutes ago
Trump is a Carnival Barker,bullshitter extroidinaire
Beatlex

27 minutes ago
Beatlex – It is too common in democracies, people get passive when threats wane. We should always remember, the bad guys never give up, they’re always working to come back and take away the gains the majority make.
AdLib 27 minutes ago
CL – Jinx! Actually, you said it far better than I did!
AdLib 27 minutes ago
Beatlex that’s an insult to carnie barkers everywhere!!! LOL! He’s far, far worse.
choicelady

26 minutes ago
no – YOU did!
choicelady

26 minutes ago
He does know how to whip a bunch of dimwits into a frenzy.
Beatlex

26 minutes ago
Beatlex – And it seems so damn obvious! Never underestimate the gullibility of those who desperately want life to be different.
AdLib 26 minutes ago
CL – We should combine our comments and publish it as an NY Times editorial!
AdLib 25 minutes ago
Beatlex – There’s a reason why Trump loves the uneducated.
AdLib 24 minutes ago
Ad – it’s a go, so long as I don’t have to use my real name!!!
choicelady

24 minutes ago
I can’t wait for the anti-Trump commercials in 2020 of him making all his phony promises interspersed with his betrayals and failures.
AdLib 23 minutes ago
I SERIOUSLY mean that if we want an intelligent population, we have to bring back civics and history and econ to our schools.
choicelady

23 minutes ago
Sidebar++ The media is not exactly covering themselves in glory.The breathless updates of even flatulance…trumpeting ++BREAKING NEWS++ to something that happened 6 hours before!
Beatlex

22 minutes ago
Ad – I think the anti-Trump ads will be anti-Pence ones. I do NOT think he’ll survive to 2020.
choicelady

22 minutes ago
CL – When you see what Moocher says in interviews and hoow ignorant Trump is, civics would seem like a must for kids at this point!
AdLib 22 minutes ago
Ad – we could end this in 8 years with good education. I am appalled at how stupid some of my PEERS are lobbying and not know how things work.
choicelady

21 minutes ago
Beatlex – I was a bit pissed about the moronic cable news spending most f yesterday chasing the shiny ball of Moocher cursing while healthcare for 15 million Americans was at stake.
AdLib 21 minutes ago
Mooch is a Phony,just like his boss.It would be funny if it were not so serious
Beatlex

21 minutes ago
Mooch is the MOST outrageous spokesperson EVER. When half of what he says cannot even be broadcast, we are in a whole ‘nothter galaxy.
choicelady

20 minutes ago
CL – Pence has been lying a lot, claiming he didn’t know about Flynn’s Russia connection, I think Pence goes down with the rest of the Trump scum.
AdLib 20 minutes ago
Ad- I hope so. Mueller is NOT limited in whom he’s investigating. Jill Stein is on the list for her Dec. 2015 RT dinner w Flynn and Putin, and well she should be. She was PAID to go there – and why?
choicelady

19 minutes ago
CL – Trump is stuck on reality show performer. Mooch is just a casting choice to distract and boost ratings. And he’s great for Trump’s ego, as a Mini-Me.
AdLib 19 minutes ago
Mooch doesn’t THINK he’s a “mini”.
choicelady

18 minutes ago
CL – Yes, Stein looked really suspicious, as a potential part of the Putin plan. Innocent people shouldn’t be woorried aboout being investigated for suspicious behavior.
AdLib 17 minutes ago
Yes Ad,But then that gives us President Ryan…..AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Beatlex

17 minutes ago
Ad – that woman is bizarre to the max. I think she is dangerous.
choicelady

17 minutes ago
Mooch is like Trump, they think they’re bigger than they are.
AdLib 17 minutes ago
Stein is a liar and a con woman. She was so dishonest in her campaign.
AdLib 16 minutes ago
Beatlex – Ryan is under scrutiny for taking Russian money. So it trickles down past McConnell (same issue) to Orrin Hatch. He’s weird but not insane, and I could live with him as president for the five minutes he’d have.
choicelady

16 minutes ago
Beatlex – The only plus about Ryan in the WH is that he’s even more disliked than Trump! And he spearheaded taking away healthcare from oover 25 million Americans. Not a winning platform.
AdLib 15 minutes ago
Ad- I detest her with the warmth of a million suns. I met one of her true believers at a conference, and she was just as nuts.
choicelady

15 minutes ago
Ad – Ryan is under scrutiny by Mueller for Russian $$$.
choicelady

15 minutes ago
I actually teared up when John McCain gave his thumbs down on the health bill.And me,a Canadian.I care I guess,and am a sentimental fool!
Beatlex

14 minutes ago
Ryan is so unlikeable, he doesn’t concern me if he replaced Trump, he wouldn’t win.
AdLib 14 minutes ago
Until 2020 anyway Ad
Beatlex

14 minutes ago
CL – Really? As campaign contributions through a SuperPAC?
AdLib 13 minutes ago
OK – it’s been GREAT to see you both, but I’m fading out. Had a VERY long day with a new, 3 month old kitten. Someone SHOULD have reminded me that kittens are for YOUNG people. She had shots today and it all went downhill from there.
choicelady

13 minutes ago
Ad – apparently yes. He has very dicey donations linked to Russia.
choicelady

13 minutes ago
I love kittens CL! Bye for now
Beatlex

13 minutes ago
Beatlex – I watched it live with my daughter and when McCain’s name was first called, we strained but heard nothing. Then I saw him striding in and told my daughter to watch and listen, I exploded with a “YES!!!”
AdLib 12 minutes ago
Beatlex – she’s just wonderful, but I cannot keep up with a perpetual motion machine in fur. YIKES! I’m knackered.
choicelady

12 minutes ago
How cool, CL. Have a restful weekend!
AdLib 12 minutes ago
Ad – that WAS a great moment last night!!!
choicelady

12 minutes ago
They seemed to be blocking the sound when the R’s voted,really
Beatlex

12 minutes ago
OOh yeah, kittens and pups take a lot oout of ya…but they’re so wonderful!
AdLib 12 minutes ago
Beatlex – Had to turn the tv way up to hear their votes.
AdLib 11 minutes ago
Ad – restfull and kittens do not mix. Lucky for us, she gets on OK with our older cat who likes her even though he’s hiding under the bed at the moment.
choicelady

11 minutes ago
Heh! Cats are such interesting people!
AdLib 11 minutes ago
So good night to you both – and to PPO if he returns. Hope the gale doesn’t knock HIM out for long! Be well. HOPE to be here next week!
choicelady

10 minutes ago
Night CL, HOPE too see you then…and more!
AdLib 10 minutes ago
I saw the little meetings though Ad,Pence-McCain+McConnell-McCain++Rubio,etc.Then he met with some of the Dems!
Beatlex

9 minutes ago
The tip off was that he was hanging a lot with Dems and the vote was really delayed. They were trying to turn McCain.
AdLib 8 minutes ago
Yes Ad.But he did the right thing.Might have something to do with his plight.That kind of thing can change you.He said so himself
Beatlex

7 minutes ago
No kidding. I think it made a difference, his facing his own mortality and he had to think about how others without his money would deal with brain cancer like he has.
AdLib 6 minutes ago
See you Ad!Good exchange tonight! See Ya
Beatlex

5 minutes ago
Same here, have a great weekend, Beatlex! Seeya next week!
AdLib 5 minutes ago

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