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AdLib On June - 2 - 2017
Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hope to see you then!
AdLib 5 hours ago
Don’t forget to say “Hi!” or “Orange Trumpsuits!” when you arrive!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Hey PPOO!
AdLib 2 hours ago
What a fine Covfefe it is!
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Whoops! Make that PPO! This “o” key is such a pain in the covfefe!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Am I early or late, Ad?
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Early by 4 minutes…which is really on time!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Better than POO!
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
POOPOO?
AdLib 2 hours ago
OK, enough!
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
I have an excuse for potty humor, the “o” key! Bad “o” key!
AdLib 2 hours ago
What a silly bunt.
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
How are things your way?
AdLib 2 hours ago
Heh!
AdLib 2 hours ago
And how is Fergie doing? Would be great to have her join us for Vox.
AdLib 2 hours ago
OK. Eye injections working on the Macular Degeneration. Legs are fine. Fergie has Pneumonia! Her hip is fine. My weird stomach pain has gone and nothing found, So its SNAFU.
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Ad, she’d love to as well, but when she gets up she spends a lousy amount of time in the bathroom due to IBS.
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
We’re falling to bits! Rather like the World right now.
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
brb
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
So the eye injections are working? Oh no! So sorry to hear Fergie has pneumonia! Glad her hip is fine but she needs to really rest and fight off that pneumonia. Glad your stomach’s back to normal, maybe a coincidence that you stopped having cannonballs shot at your belly at the circus?
AdLib 2 hours ago
PPO – But we’re still here!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Hey glenn!
AdLib 2 hours ago
So what’s the latest covfefe gents?
glenn

2 hours ago
That’s a top secret covfefe!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Hey FD!
AdLib 2 hours ago
What’s up peeps?
Fuzzy Dunlop

2 hours ago
Geshundheit, glenn! Hiya!
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Grab a cup of covfefe!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Hey FD!
glenn

2 hours ago
Too acidic for me, Ad.
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Hey glenn, how you be?
Fuzzy Dunlop

2 hours ago
Hi, FD.
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Hey P.
Fuzzy Dunlop

2 hours ago
Could there be a more disdained leader in the world than Trump? Even Putin is respected more and that’s pretty bad!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Putin is an adult. A very bad one, but an adult, none the less.
Fuzzy Dunlop

2 hours ago
PPO – Trump or coffee?
AdLib 2 hours ago
Sad but true, Ad. Any moral leadership is now out the window
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Oh my, PPO. Good news and bad news with you and Fergie. But the best news is that you’re both still on this side of the daisies!
glenn

2 hours ago
I be fine, FD. How about you?
glenn

2 hours ago
For sure, g. treatment of ailments is better with a bit of humor and fun with my POV oaks.
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
FD – I think you put your finger on it. Trump appears as a man-child to anyone who’s educated…so the leaders of the rest of the world look at him like a baby carrying a stick of dynamite.
AdLib 2 hours ago
I’ll pass on the covfefe, Ad. Too bitter for my taste.
glenn

2 hours ago
The righties have their undies in a bunch over Kathy Griffin. Probably the very same righties who hung president Obama in effigy, burned it…etc. The same cretins that called Michelle a gorilla, and said far worse about Hillary. Am I surprised? Not one bit.
Fuzzy Dunlop

2 hours ago
Heh! You and PPO nailed it!
AdLib 2 hours ago
That’s a great anaology, Ad.
Fuzzy Dunlop

2 hours ago
We try to do our part to keep you smilin’, PPO!
glenn

2 hours ago
I wonder how the GOP can stand the fact that they gave birth to this monstrosity
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Thanks glenn
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
P, when the indictments start coming down, the repub congress will run for cover. Like cockroaches scatter when a light is turned on.
Fuzzy Dunlop

2 hours ago
Sorry, POV PALS! A Covfefe moment!
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
FD – It’s actually kind of amusing to see Trump and Repubs clutching their pearls and whimpering like true snowflakes at Griffin’s admittedly stupid stunt. Pooor Trump, when he made Obama’s daughters suffer the indignity of watching him trash their father as a fraud, how did they feel? Not to mention all the graphics of Obama being hung with a nose, shot in the head, etc.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Thanks FD!
AdLib 2 hours ago
They’ll probably even try to deny supporting trump in the first place. Yes, they’re that sleazey.
Fuzzy Dunlop

2 hours ago
You know, FD, I agree that the righties are being total hypocrites about Griffin, but IMO, she was wrong, wrong, wrong, to do what she did. And no amount of apologizing on her part, or bringing up the behavior of others on the part of those trying to make excuses for Griffin’s little stunt will ever make it right. She fucked up big time, and she should lose her job(s), she should be held in contempt, and she needs to go away for a while.
glenn

2 hours ago
Exactly! These idiots are apoplectic over a distasteful photo, while the world burns. Fucking morons.
Fuzzy Dunlop

2 hours ago
Ad, They don’t get that Kathy’s admittedly bad stunt was a aprody of Trump’s ”Blood coming out……whatever.”
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
FD – Repubs will not be able to shake the stench of Trump collaborators by bailing like rats off a sinking ship. They will look like the rats they are. 2018 will begin the national destruction of the GOP.
AdLib 2 hours ago
I don’t think this will really hurt her career. Yeah the photo was in poor taste, and I think barabarism, even if it is artificial, is unenlightened. but hey, we do have a 1st amendment.
Fuzzy Dunlop

2 hours ago
No worries PPO!
AdLib 2 hours ago
oh sure Ad, but they will certainly try. I’ll bet money on it.
Fuzzy Dunlop

2 hours ago
Ad, true. They enabled all the horror that now permeates the USA , the racism , radicalization, Open defiance of the Law, blatant corruption… I could go on
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Trump had more to say about Kathy Griffin, than he did the stabbing deaths of two brave, decent citizens, protecting two young women from a crazy shitstain on a train in Portland.
Fuzzy Dunlop

2 hours ago
From what I’ve heard, Griffin is not the most pleasant persoon to begin with. I’ve never found her very funny (except in one Seinfeld episode), she’s followed the Joan Rivers path when it comes to saying offensive things and claiming they’re jokes…and not to mention the plastic surgery obsession.
AdLib 2 hours ago
She’s actually a pretty nice person, Ad. Her comedy is raw and she loves to trash celebs, so she has made a few enemies.
Fuzzy Dunlop

2 hours ago
Can’t copy it. but great image on Twitter now with all the Paris Conference Chairs around a big table with countries flags on them . The USA chair is a baby’s Feeding chair!
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Trump didn’t even have the courage to make a statement about the murders in Portland, on camera, to the press. He tweeted it, the chicken shit bastard that he is.
Fuzzy Dunlop

2 hours ago
FD, and he’s still gobbing on about HRC.
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
FD–I think this should hurt Griffin’s career (such as it is or was). She just crossed the line from satire to disgusting, despite the first amendment. Yes, she had every right to pull that little stunt, but IMO, what she did was just give trump and his foul-assed supporters like nugent more ammunition. She gave them ammunition for the “bothsidesdoitism”; she gave ammunition to those who wish to “normalize” this sort of behavior, both on the right and left, and she showed a lack of class (not that she had much to begin with).
glenn

2 hours ago
Hey, CL, Welcome!
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
PPO – I think Griffin just made that up about it being a parody oof “blood coming out of her whatever”, this wasn’t about blood, it was about beheading. She wanted to be so outrageous she broke through and got a lot of attention. She was pushing for attention…she got it but not as she thought she would and is now playing victim. No, she was a jerk for doing that and giving Trump and Repubs the opportunity to play victim.
AdLib 2 hours ago
I don’t agree at all glenn. Why have a first amendment if you can lose your career over expressing one’s self. That is very slippery slope.
Fuzzy Dunlop

2 hours ago
You may be right, Ad. It was horrible either way
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Hey hey PPO and all – great to see everyone!
choicelady

2 hours ago
brb
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
PPO – White racists are literally murdering people in Trump’s name but a dumb and tasteless photo is the only thing he condemns.
AdLib 2 hours ago
I don’t believe in public figures being punished for saying offensive things, even if they’re on the right.
Fuzzy Dunlop

2 hours ago
PPO–That image you speak of describes trump to a “t”, doesn’t it? And, in so many ways, his withdrawal from this accord, from what I understand, is mostly symbolic until 2021, when hopefully, we will have a new president anyway.
glenn

2 hours ago
FD – My attitude about the 1A is – just cuz you can, doesn’t mean you should. KG is a horrible person, and her grasp of political understanding is about Trump level. Yeah – she had the RIGHT to do it, but she gave fuck all about the impact on the rest of us. She never does,
choicelady

2 hours ago
Hey CL!
Fuzzy Dunlop

2 hours ago
Hey CL! Great to see you and glad I can thank you publicly for hosting Vox when I was out of town!
AdLib 2 hours ago
I still don’t think they should be punished for free expression, not matter how crude of offensive.
Fuzzy Dunlop

2 hours ago
or
Fuzzy Dunlop

2 hours ago
Hey FD and AdLib and glenn. How is everyone? Ad – hope you had a breather whilst you were away?
choicelady

2 hours ago
FD – I’m not saying she should be punished, but in employment, that’s NOT a violation of her rights. Nobody is suppressing her other than who pays her. And that’s THEIR call.
choicelady

2 hours ago
Hey CL–And what you just said about Griffin is exactly what I was trying to say. I think her only punishment should be that no one wants to have on her on any more.
glenn

2 hours ago
FD – In that case, I’ll put aside that impression of Griffin but I must say, what she did with this photo shoot doesn’t say the best things about her. She should’ve known better, no one here would be so oblivious of how unacceptable that is.
AdLib 2 hours ago
i know it’s not a violation of her rights, but I still think it’s wrong to punish people for freely expressing themselves. The business world is only concerned about the loss of money.
Fuzzy Dunlop

2 hours ago
glenn – I think she sucks on many issues – she is SO ignorant. I think she can freely express herself a whole lot of places, but like Ann Coulter – do we have to PAY her? Nobody pays ME to say what I do.
choicelady

2 hours ago
Apropos absolutely nothing, Unhopy Not-So-Catholic Ireland just elected a Gay man as Taoiseach (Prime Minister) Who’d a thunk it?!
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Unholy
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Her fans pay to see her. She was pretty successful until she pulled this stupid stunt.
Fuzzy Dunlop

2 hours ago
FD, yeah, well gans pay to see Ted Nugent, don’t they?Fans, dammit! Covfefe fingers!
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
FD – it’s NOT just that. It’s whether the people behind the venue don’t want to support what she says and does. She is so head-poundingly ignorant about SO MANY THINGS that it’s like giving Trumpeteres voice – yes, they can. But why the HELL do we PAY them for it? KG is NOT George Carlin. He prodded people to think. He was vulgar. And he was freaking GOOD at what he did and said. She is just stupid so why reward that?
choicelady

2 hours ago
FD – I would agree that there shouldn’t be formal punishing of people for saying repulsive things but just as we are all free to say what we want, we’re also free to criticize those who say things that we find offensive. If that results in someone being disrespected as a public person, that is what cause and effect is in a free society.
AdLib 2 hours ago
It still comes down to money CL.
Fuzzy Dunlop

2 hours ago
PPO – and in those venues the idjits who love them Ted Nugent can support Ted Nugent. KG can do her stand up. NObody has to pay if they don’t want to.
choicelady

2 hours ago
FD–No one is punishing Griffin for expessing herself. She’s free to post all the dumb things she wants. We also have the right to free expression to condemn in no uncertain terms what she did. We also have the right to not attend any of her shows, to make sure that advertisers know our displeasure with having Griffin on a show, and to make her own up to the consequences of her actions. As Ad says, she wanted the attention, she got it. Just may not be the type of attention she wanted.
glenn

2 hours ago
glenn – AMEN, sister, AMEN!
choicelady

2 hours ago
CL – Yes, had a bit of time to chill, thanks!
AdLib 2 hours ago
I have no problem with someone being disrespected. Hey, free speech is a two way street. Did she know she was probably crossing a line? Most likely.
Fuzzy Dunlop

2 hours ago
AdLib – so glad to hear that! You work overtime on justice. Every now and then one needs ‘chill time’.
choicelady

2 hours ago
PPO – That is very cool to hear, I missed that! Ireland is paving the way!
AdLib 2 hours ago
FD – my problem with KG is the use of putative violence in her “presentation”. Given that it followed the Portaland horror, she added to the mix. That’s freaking irresponsible.
choicelady

2 hours ago
Ad, just retweeted that cartoon to POV Twitted address
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
PPO – is covfefe a Gaelic term? Or was he having a major brain fart? Can I legitimately pray for more?
choicelady

2 hours ago
CL – I know FD is a Carlin fan as I am too and you’re so right. Carlin used profanity as a way to shake people up so they woould pay attention to his amzingly incisive and of course comedic views. Many comics try to shock just to get attention and really don’t have anything meaningful to say.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Ohio pastor to GOP Senator: “You were not elected to worship Donald Trump” Nice one, Rev!
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
CL–And I return the AMEN, sister to you!
glenn

2 hours ago
PPO – I REALLY liked that Ohio pastor!!!
choicelady

2 hours ago
Back at ya, CL, you fight the goood fight every day. Hope you have a Summer vacation on the calendar!
AdLib 2 hours ago
My organization is fighting tooth and nail to prohibit partisan rants from the pulpit. I cannot believe we’ve fallen this low!
choicelady

2 hours ago
Ad – not sure about summer. We’re fighting the “hip replacement” issue for my husband hoping another injection of cortisone will continue to help. Take it day by day.
choicelady

2 hours ago
Ad–Carlin was so amazingly incisive that you can play almost any of his videos today and we seem to be still fighting the same old battles! Abortion, gays, “small” government, etc. It’s absolutely amazing to me that we are still fighting for the same things we were when Carlin was alive.
glenn

2 hours ago
Trump has suborned the Churches to pound his bullshit into their flock. And they won’t be taxed! Welcome to Fundamentalist USA
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
All – I was preparing to retire or at least slow down. Then came the 2016 election, and live is more fraught with demands for voices for justice and…
choicelady

2 hours ago
Here it is PPO:

AdLib 2 hours ago
And Carlin died nine years ago.
glenn

2 hours ago
Thanks, Ad!
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
PPO – mainline and progressive Protestants HATE his opening wedge!
choicelady

2 hours ago
Ad – Too funny!!!
choicelady

2 hours ago
Thanks for that, PPO – hadn’t seen it. And huzzah to Ireland for a GREAT movement forward in the new PM!!!
choicelady

2 hours ago
CL–read an article online today that one of trump’s supporters has said that christians should become more violent. That’s a real “christian” thing to say, right?
glenn

2 hours ago
glenn – OMG I saw that. Disgusting and total heresy.
choicelady

2 hours ago
Great cartoon! Thanks for sharing, Ad and PPO.
glenn

2 hours ago
The problem is, CL, that the mainstream Religions are in decline to the Happy-Clappy , Buy me a Learjet mobs.
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
CL – I think Trump truly wants to bring down all the norms and decency in the nation just because it will be a moonument to his influence and power long after he’s gone. He doesn’t care about issues, he cares about his ego alone.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Hey Murph!
AdLib an hour ago
Hi Murph!
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Well howdy do to all of you!!!
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Ad–I think you’re on to something there regarding trump. He’s just destroying the US because he thinks he can. It’s too bad we can’t ignore him; that would make him madder than anything.
glenn

an hour ago
Ad, And all because President Obama roasted him at the WHCD. How culd someone hate that deeply?
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
If no one has read ( it IS a long slog) “The Family” by Jeff Sharlet, I’d urge you to. It’s about the “C Street” peopl and their disgusting new “religion” of power and money that has created the horrific Religious Right. Just disgusing. I KNOW a couple of the people cited in the book personally, and they are utterly vile. Betsy DeVos adheres to their “education” campaigns.
choicelady

an hour ago
Hey Murph!
glenn

an hour ago
MURPH!!! How are you and have the rains ended for you?
choicelady

an hour ago
CL – Hip replacements, done by the right and experienced doctor, is relatively quick and easy. Patients are up and walking in no time. If the pain is becoming a big issue, it’s a good thing to consider the procedure sooner than later, IMO.
AdLib an hour ago
PPO–also–how could someone be that stupid?
glenn

an hour ago
Ad – catching up,yes, this is all about DT’s ego. Period. Full Stop.
choicelady

an hour ago
Ad – I am optimistic about the outcome but dreading it nonetheless. He’s doing SO much better now he’s had the cortisone that we can probably wait until fall if the second injection is as good.
choicelady

an hour ago
glenn – Exactly! Carlin’s insights were primal and universal, they don’t age because they saw what’s at the heart of how people in power are and that never changes.
AdLib an hour ago
CL, I agree with Ad. Fergie had it done and it was quick. Recovery was OK and now she’s bionic woman
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Speaking of trump’s ego, word on the street is that trump withdrew from Paris accords because the French PM “dissed” him with his handshake! What a putz! Trump, not the French PM.
glenn

an hour ago
PPO – I am fine with a bionic hubby. Just so he stops wincining with every step!
choicelady

an hour ago
I have come to the conclusion that ALL of Trump’s actions have a foundation is his hatred for Obama which came to full fury at the WH correspondents’ dinner where Obama roasted him alive. Withdrawing from the accord, a non binding agreement in principal that leaves every signatory free to do whatever it wants, but just requires a desire to develop energy plans that reduce the impact of human activity on climate change and where the only ones with a voice are those at the table IS SO STUPID (as so many in his own circle pointed out) that there HAS TO BE a DEEPER MOTIVATION…and that Motivation is

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
glenn – that probably IS part of the US “plan” – getting even w Macron! This man is emotionally about age 6.
choicelady

an hour ago
I know I’m in Australia, but does anyone think it strange that the Protest against Guns movement is using ORANGE as their color, given that orange jumpsuits have a certain connotation?
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Murph – he and some others cannot tolerate a smart and competent BLACK man doing what they could not. His jealousy about PBO is breath-taking.
choicelady

an hour ago
Choice….I see it in his followers…..and he is the source of their inspiration.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
glenn – Not only that, when you look at all Trump is doing, it sure seems to paint a picture of vendetta against Obama. He’s trying to destroy everything Obama accomplished. It’s well known that Trump holds grudges against those he feels wronged him, this is all about revenge to destroy Obama by destroying his legacy. But it’s not going to work out for Trump.
AdLib an hour ago
PPO – LOL – I think orange was all that was left after other “causes” commandeered the better colors!
choicelady

an hour ago
Ad Lib…we are clearly on the same page.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Ad and glenn – I think every single think Yam Man does is based in a primitive desire to best the Black guy, yes.
choicelady

an hour ago
Murph–no doubt trump is all about revenge and trying to humiliate those whom he perceives as his enemies. However, among sane people, and now, even among some of his supporters, it seems to be coming back to bite him in the ass big time. Good!
glenn

an hour ago
A very fine article on Trumps antipathy for Obama….

http://www.salon.com/2017/06/02/from-paris-to-bears-ears-donald-trumps-obama-derangement-syndrome-is-going-critical/

From Paris to Bears Ears, Donald Trump’s “Obama derangement syndrome” is going critical
Almost everything Donald Trump and his acolytes do is fueled by the desire to uproot or undo Barack Obama’s legacy

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Cl, probably right – no one wanted brown!
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Murph – that’s accurate. Obama derangement syndrome.
choicelady

an hour ago
Glenn from your typing to the crowd’s ears…..
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Choice ODS as a pandemic!
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Murph – do we have a vaccine?
choicelady

an hour ago
Murph–I’m hoping to see pitchforks and maybe even some tar from the crowds soon–metaphorically speaking, of course!
glenn

an hour ago
Choice- an informed and critical electorate…..we are doomed!
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
PPO – black would be appropriate for anti-gun work, but…
choicelady

an hour ago
ODS can be studied at the Covfefe Campus at Trump U..
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
CL – The Religious Right and C Street and the Dominionists are cancers to religion. Churches becoming GOP HQs is the ultimate destructioon of the facade.
AdLib an hour ago
CL–Even if we have a vaccine, the repubs have probably put it on the list of things that the ACA cannot cover!
glenn

an hour ago
Glenn…there will be anger eventually since many of his moves cut deeply into the lives of his core voters.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Murph – I think suddenly a LOT of people realize they can’t BE uninformed any longer. THAT is GREAT.
choicelady

an hour ago
Ad – if churches do get openly partisan, it’s churches that will die. Even as someone working in th faith community, I’m OK with that.
choicelady

an hour ago
PPO….Convefe Campus…OMG…luv it.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Murph – LOL!
choicelady

an hour ago
CL….I do not know many like that.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Murph – the entire mainlin Protestant community is opposing the blending of church and state. We may triumph!
choicelady

an hour ago
PPO – THAT is funny – covfefe campus!!!
choicelady

an hour ago
Murph and CL–as long as foxsocallednews and the right wing hate radio are still in business, there will be lots of uninformed people. Here’s hoping that those who once supported trump, but now have realized their mistake, will inform their fellow trump cultists. Because those people will NEVER listen to facts from a liberal!
glenn

an hour ago
CL – I think the politicized churches will fall as popular opinion turns against Repubs.
AdLib an hour ago
Heard on the BBC: “the President of the United States, who used to be the leader of the free world”
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Meanwhile in The Republic Ireland, the people there, overwhelmingly white and still customarily religious, elected a biracial gay man as their President…..
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Murph…. Prime Minister actually (Taoiseach). And I forgot he is half Indian!
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Glenn…you point to a fundamental factor….the BUBBLE! It worries me no end.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
PPO–OMG–isn’t that sad? Remember when righties accused PBO of “leading from behind”? Now, we’re not even leading any more. But bygod, we have put “America first”, haven’t we? Haven’t we?
glenn

an hour ago
PPO…sorry – yes PM (a more powerful position as the President is the head of state and largely ceremonial).
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Did you hear that Trump called that Fox News person he’s considering to replace Spicey t get input before he announced pulling out of the Paris Accord? How weak and insecure does that sound? “Mommy, is it okay if I drop my pants on the world stage? Will they applaud me as I think they will?”
AdLib an hour ago
Ad and all – “walk aways” are the SINGLE largest movement in religion. Peopl who cannot tolerate the hate and bigotry of the RW. When the Episcopal Diocese of San Juoaquin opted OUT of the Episcopal church, the church itself retained the buildings. And suddenly it became THE largest influx of peopl INTO the church anywhere. The haters are shriveling and dying. Those who embrace marriage equality and loving inclusion are exploding with people!!! It’s so powerful to see!
choicelady

an hour ago
glenn, actually ALternatve first, Like first looking froom the back!
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Murph–yeah, that’s what worries me, too.
glenn

an hour ago
Glenn…..yes….leading from behind and getting behinder.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
glenn – it’s America-all-by-itself. Not going well.
choicelady

an hour ago
Ad Lib….remember when Sally Field stood before the Oscar Audience and said plaintively “You Love Me, You Really Love Me” That is Trump….except he has in no way earned it so he rigs the game.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
CL – That’s affirming to hear! One would hope that the people who are honest in believing in their faith would never accept a politicizing and proselytizing of hate.
AdLib an hour ago
CL–I hope you’re correct in that people who are intolerant of intolerance are coming back into churches. Hopefully this will turn into a grassroots movement to counter some of the hate that is being spewed daily by our rightie “friends”.
glenn

an hour ago
CL…say more about that Episcopal Church story.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Murph–and when you are behind, you have to walk in others’ shit.
glenn

an hour ago
Murph – Yes, good comparison. Trump is so needy to be liked but that is “trumped” by his need to validate how smart and strong he is. A vicious circle with a blockhead trapped in it.
AdLib an hour ago
Ad – this is a nationwide trend. Churches w an inclusive message are doing well. Those that don’t are failing. Murph – San Joaquin is exploding with not just LGBT people but FAMILIES who want their kids to grow up with a loving, inclusive message and environment.
choicelady

an hour ago
Glenn….and you make a lot of your own shit…
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
CL…..so what was the Episcopal CHurch’s stance?
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
CL–isolationist policies have never worked for any country. It’s kinda like incest; there is never any new blood, new ideas, or new cultural mores. The system collapses in on itself because it becomes mutant.
glenn

an hour ago
Murph- retired bishop Jerry Lamb came out to head it all, and he did a great job of reuniting the churches and the dioceses as a positive force for love and joy.
choicelady

an hour ago
The GOP were sure that they would be the Elephant, and Trump would obediently shovel up their shit. But look what’s happened!
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
So was the national church anti gay?
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Murph–yup, that too.
glenn

an hour ago
Murph – the Episcopal Church is TOTALLY down with marriage equality. In Ocober a Deacon and his soon to be husband are getting married IN the Sacramento cathedral. The church is now open to it everywhere based on individual choices. Same with United Church of Christ, Disciples, the Western conferences of UMC, and many others and they are exploding.
choicelady

an hour ago
CL – The RWs who claim to be religious can’t quote a single word Jesus said. They just parrot the cherry picked vindictiveness from The Old Testament that cynical, non-believing Repubs push on them to get them to vote against their own interests. Really, out of all the things Trump and Repubs have done since January, how many have been done too help the wealthy and powerful and how many help the rural folks desperately counting on Trump?
AdLib an hour ago
CL–sounds like positive things are happening in your church. Nice to know.
glenn

an hour ago
CL…that is my experience — even here in Mo- as I belong to a Episcopal Community…so what was the controversy that led to the break with the national church….
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
The national Episcopal church is PRO LGBT. Have been for many years which is why San Joaquin split. Those few churches are now part of he Anglican church of Argentina. With which they have ZERO incommon othr than hating marriage equality.
choicelady

an hour ago
So…is Kushner going to prison?
AdLib an hour ago
Ad – Oh I HOPE SO!!! Kusher is evil!
choicelady

an hour ago
glenn – my organization represents 20 Protestant denominations, so watching them all move to embracing full equality of ALL people is AMAZING.
choicelady

an hour ago
Ad–As for kushner going to prison—probably not. But hopefully, his name will be dragged through the mud.
glenn

an hour ago
Ad…if he does he will be VERY POPULAR…..you know what I mean….

MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
glenn – I’m not sure he’s immune from prison.
choicelady

an hour ago
Murph – he’sll probably do his time in the federal system that has fewer boyfriend issues.
choicelady

an hour ago
cl presidential pardons all round, probably already signed, but not dated
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
He looks like the greedy, elitist, rich snot that he is. And he screwed up big time. The meeting with the Russian bank exec who then met with Putin right after should bury him. Not to mention that he committed perjury when he omitted that and other meetings to get his security clearance. He is already a criminal…might such an unprincipled weasel turn on Trump to save himself?
AdLib an hour ago
CL–I don’t think he’s “immune” from prison. I just don’t think he’ll serve any time; just get a slap on the wrist.
glenn

an hour ago
PPO – I understand via L. Tribe, one of our Constitutinal scholars, that if this is part of the investigation of HIM, he cannot pardon peopl.
choicelady

an hour ago
glenn – I think the entire justice system is sick of these privileged brats and might throw the book at them.
choicelady

an hour ago
cl, the problem seems to be that what were norms no longer are, and he is free to do what he wants.
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
HARLEIGH!!!
choicelady

an hour ago
Hi FOLKS!!
Harleigh

an hour ago
PPO – no , he’s NOT free to do what he wants. He’s deluded that way.
choicelady

an hour ago
HEY HArleigh, How goes it?
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
here’s hoping, cl
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
PPO – But you can’t pardon someone until they’re convicted and the conviction of Kushner/Flynn/Manafort/Sessions/etc. sure would seem to take Trump down too…and you can’t pardon yourself out of being impeached and removed.
AdLib an hour ago
Hey Harleigh!
AdLib an hour ago
CL–well I hope you’re correct and I’m wrong, but we still have a lot of righties on the courts, and there’s no telling what justifications they’ll come up with. They’ll probably “condemn” what kushner did, and then say he’s been “punished” enough if he loses his kushy job in the WH.
glenn

an hour ago
Ad – no, and John Dean has noted several parallels w Watergate when Nixon though he COULD do that He was dead wrong.
choicelady

an hour ago
Hey Harleigh!
glenn

an hour ago
Well, I don’t know the machinations of the system in the US. I don’t know of any other country with a pardoning ablilty
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Well Monday starts another new job. LOL and another week of the shit blizzard from Dolt45.
Harleigh

an hour ago
Howdy doody Harleigh!
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
glenn – I think even SCOTUS would not go along with this. I see a lot of 6-3 decisions.
choicelady

an hour ago
Harleigh, what is the job.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Harleigh – what’s the new job?
choicelady

an hour ago
CL–To paraphrase Murph–from your keyboard to the courts’ ears!
glenn

an hour ago
I sell life and Health INS, med sups ans mini meds… etc
Harleigh

an hour ago
glenn – I am following Tribe and others on these observation. INCLUDING John Dean who damned well knows the ropes!
choicelady

an hour ago
Will Trump try to stop Comey from testifying next week? If he doesn’t, I think the impeachment gears will start turning on taking Trump down for obstruction of justice.
AdLib an hour ago
Harleigh – is this something you want to be doing? If so, CONGRATS.
choicelady

an hour ago
Harleigh, congrats.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Ad – #45 MAY try to stop Comey, but since HE already blabbed about it, it’s NO LONGER coverd by priviliege. Anyway, Nixon lost that battle. So weill #45.
choicelady

an hour ago
Sounds great, Harleigh!
AdLib an hour ago
All success, Harleigh
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
CL–what is “tribe”? It’s amazing the parallels to Nixon, isn’t it?
glenn

an hour ago
Correction – “so WILL #45.)
choicelady

an hour ago
glenn – Lawrence Tribe, THE Constitutional scholar of America who actually Tweets good legal info!
choicelady

an hour ago
Had my license for 7 years now in about 30 or so states. Inside work is about the best you can say for it and now I can do medicare advantage too.
Harleigh

an hour ago
CL – Yes, I agree that Trump will lose that fight in the end, especially since part of the testimony would be connected to Trump’s accusation that Comey perjured himself.
AdLib an hour ago
Does anyone think that Comey is now regretting his decision about going pubic about HRC’s emails, and is now trying to do his best to get trump impeached?
glenn

an hour ago
glenn – in a world, YES.
choicelady

an hour ago
CL–thanks for the info.
glenn

an hour ago
Word. I am having dyslexia of the fingers tonight. Might be that second glass of wine…
choicelady

an hour ago
cl, we’re all sffering from the covfef virus.
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
SEE????
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Is THAT what it si! I’m off the hook. MORE WINE!!!
choicelady

an hour ago
IS. Not si. IS.
choicelady

an hour ago
Which committee is Comey testifying before next week? The House or the Senate? If it’s the Senate, is it a committee on which Franken sits? Can’t wait to hear his questioning of Comey if it’s so.
glenn

an hour ago
Comey painted himself into a corner. Cocfefe!
Harleigh

an hour ago
I’ll drink to that! (except it is 1.00 pm Saturday here!)
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
glenn – honesly I can’t recall but I do think it’s Senate and yes I think it’s Franken.
choicelady

an hour ago
glenn – Yes, I do think that though Comey is an egotistical jerk as well and won’t admit he screwed up in many ways to serve his ego, I think he is “nauseous” about having helped take out Hillary and put Trump in the WH. And Trump has attacked the one thing Comey was focused on, his reputation and legacy. You bet he’s coming after Trump with guns blazing.
AdLib an hour ago
oops Covfefe
Harleigh

an hour ago
Pour me a glass, CL!
AdLib an hour ago
PPO – it’s always 5 pm SOMEWHERE. Have at it!
choicelady

an hour ago
I’ll have what she’s having
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
PPO–What does 1 p.m. Saturday have to do with anything? If it’s afternoon, it can be cocktail time any time, can’t it?
glenn

an hour ago
Ad – doing that as we speak.
choicelady

an hour ago
cl, the Sun’s over the Yardarm in the Tibetan Navy
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
PPO – I’m having cheapo pinot grigio. You can do better.
choicelady

an hour ago
I can’t wait to see Comey testify on Thursday! Must see tv! Trump will likely try some stunt on that day to try and pull the focus away froom Comey but it won’t work.
AdLib an hour ago
Slurp! Mmm…fruity!
AdLib an hour ago
CL – That works for me!
AdLib an hour ago
a bit early for my Scotch. Can’t drink beer anymore. Became allergic, fer crying out loud!
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Ad – only thing I worry about is a new “Reichstag Fire” from DT. The GOOD thing is that he actually has no base – he’s pissed off all the dark ops people along with everyone else, so I’m not sure he could pull that off.
choicelady

an hour ago
brb
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
He’ll declare war on Canada and Mexico! Both trashed him this week. LMAO
Harleigh

an hour ago
Ad–oh no. You mean once again, trump’s ego will take him down? Oh what a shame! And Comey better not give any ambiguous answers. He needs to be very clear and concise in taking trump down. BIGLY!
glenn

an hour ago
PPO – allergic to BEER? That’s just not FAIR.
choicelady

an hour ago
glenn – Comey MUST be clear, i agree!
choicelady

an hour ago
Only space aliens are allergic to beer….
Harleigh

an hour ago
Harleigh – PPO goes his own way. He’d not CHOOSE to be allergic to beer!
choicelady

an hour ago
lol
Harleigh

an hour ago
CL – Definitely a concern but too many people know history and Trump has cemented himself in the minds of the majority of Americans as dishonest and a propagndist. Who other than Trump supporters would believe anything he said after a false flag attack? Just the pposite, more will be willing to suspect him whether or not he’s involved with an attack!
AdLib an hour ago
Hey JJ!!! Great to see you!
AdLib an hour ago
Harleigh – I am allergic (intolrant anyway) of beer because it’s wheat based, and I cannot consume wheat.
choicelady

an hour ago
Well, my friends, time to call it a night. Nice chatting with you all tonight. I hope everyone has a great weekend, and I look forward to chatting about Comey’s testimony next week. Take care.
glenn

an hour ago
Ad – I think you’re correct.
choicelady

an hour ago
Thanks, Adlib. Great to be here!
jjgravitas

an hour ago
glenn, agreed, Comey needs to be frank and detailed and hang Trump out to dry. I think that’s what he’ll do!
AdLib an hour ago
oh geez CL.. wheat is in everything!
Harleigh

an hour ago
Night glenn, have a great weekend!
AdLib an hour ago
Well guys and gals, I am in the Pride Parade tomorrow at the crack of dawn, so I need to bid you all a good night. I am also in the evening Trump/Russia rally at the state capitol. So I will see you next week I hope!
choicelady

an hour ago
nite glenn
Harleigh

an hour ago
Glad you could make it tonight, CL! I’m sure it will be a very successful march!
AdLib an hour ago
Harleigh – yes, wheat is in everything worth living for. I drip with self pity. I have not had a good meal in 17 yars.
choicelady

an hour ago
JJ…while I was away you entered the fray!
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
AdLib – Pride Parade is a hoot, so that at least will be fun.
choicelady

an hour ago
nite CL!
Harleigh

an hour ago
Hey jj – I’m just leaving and sorry to miss you! GOOD NIGHT ALL!
choicelady

an hour ago
As far as I’m concerned, we’re already living in a dystopia. Gtrup nad his corrupt cronies can only make it worse. There’s no limit to how works it can get, as the GOP have proven.
jjgravitas

an hour ago
CL…I will write about the Episcopal Diocese thing……I am interested in the story. Will do some research.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
I think Trump’s tax returns will become very public soon, as the financial ties with Russia become fornt and center, it will be unavoidable!
AdLib an hour ago
I hate typos. Gtrup = Trump BION.
jjgravitas

44 minutes ago
Ad….can Trump figure out how to declare bankruptcy in the WH?
MurphTheSurf3

44 minutes ago
I wouldn’t put it past him.
jjgravitas

44 minutes ago
jj – True but yet the dystopia Trump has wrought has also brought about a much more powerful movement against him and Repubs. The silver lining is that the prospects of Dems taking back Congress and the WH look like a good bet.
AdLib 43 minutes ago
back again. LOL on the allergy comments! Apparently it is in the malt or hops. Spirits are fine! Wine is OK, but my favorite is taboo, dammit!
pinkpantheroz

43 minutes ago
JJ….his go for broke with the SCOTUS over his ban plan is an example of the kind of move he will make to the very end.
MurphTheSurf3

43 minutes ago
fallin asleep here again folks. I’ll try and make it earlier next week!
Harleigh

43 minutes ago
Murph – Trump will only be allowed to claim moral bankruptcy. He can however be “liquidated” by Congress out of the WH.
AdLib 42 minutes ago
Ad, When is the redistricting/gerrymandering thing happening again?
pinkpantheroz

42 minutes ago
g’night, Harleigh. Take care.
pinkpantheroz

42 minutes ago
Nite Harleigh….have a good first week. Do come earlier (of course I get here late all the time! HaH)
MurphTheSurf3

42 minutes ago
JJ! long time
pinkpantheroz

41 minutes ago
PPO – 2021 is the next redistricting and if Dems come back big in 2018 and 2020 nationally and in states, it could really shift things back to legit representation. If that happens, bye-bye Repubs.
AdLib 41 minutes ago
Ad….moral bankruptcy in place for years and years and years and years…..liquidation sale….looking forward to it.
MurphTheSurf3

41 minutes ago
Russia’s buying, careful who you sell to, Murph.
jjgravitas

40 minutes ago
Putin loves fire sales JJ
MurphTheSurf3

40 minutes ago
True dat
jjgravitas

39 minutes ago
Trump will indeed have a “Going Out of Business” sale after he’s been destroyed by the Russia collaboration against our democracy. The Trump name will be toxic. The most just dessert.
AdLib 39 minutes ago
Did you catch Putin’s interview? Arrogant SOB but clever. Trump is just arrogant.
MurphTheSurf3

39 minutes ago
Well, this has been a great VP. I suppose all the East coasters are in beddybyes now, so I’ll let you go, ad, jj and Murph. Take care all and dont forget to covfefe your teeth.
pinkpantheroz

38 minutes ago
Murph – I have no interest to watch Putin interviewed, he is a practiced liar and propagandist, an interview is only a delivery vehicle for more propaganda. Not interested.
AdLib 38 minutes ago
I have heard nary a thing re the emoluments clause….which for me has been the heart of what is wrong with Trump’s entire admin.
MurphTheSurf3

38 minutes ago
Have a great rest of your day and weekend, PPOO!
AdLib 38 minutes ago
PPO!
AdLib 38 minutes ago
See ya Pink
jjgravitas

37 minutes ago
SO Long PPO…luv your perspective….wish we had more such voices from the rest of the world.
MurphTheSurf3

37 minutes ago
Murph, hopefully that clause is ammunition for later.
pinkpantheroz

37 minutes ago
Murph – Who would enforce the emoluments clause?
AdLib 37 minutes ago
Thanks guys n gals. see ya.
pinkpantheroz

37 minutes ago
Ad…because he was being interviewed by an american correspondent he was drawn into saying things that I am sure he regretted.
MurphTheSurf3

36 minutes ago
DoJ? If so, forget that every happening…unless Mueller takes it up.
AdLib 36 minutes ago
Ad…..the Dems need to use it as an umbrella…is trump or anyone in his circle profiting from foreign monies…..keep building the case…educate and inflame the electorate…..
MurphTheSurf3

35 minutes ago
Murph – Maybe but I doubt it. Putin is well practiced in his deception, has spent his life doing it. Is Megyn smarter than Putin? Doubt it.
AdLib 35 minutes ago
I watched and I found myself wondering if Putin knew how much he and Trump mirror each others turn of phrase and concept.
MurphTheSurf3

34 minutes ago
Murph – But would the DoJ be the entity to pursue violations of the emoluments clause?
AdLib 34 minutes ago
Murph – It was amusing to see Trump and Putin in the same day, spouting the same BS about the Russian hacking. Two putrid peas in a Russian pod.
AdLib 33 minutes ago
ad…no….the clause is embedded in issues related to high crimes and misdemeanors as a constitutional principle….the House impeaches and the Senate tries….the Dems need to push on this.
MurphTheSurf3

33 minutes ago
Ad…exactly.
MurphTheSurf3

33 minutes ago
Well….we few, we happy few…..this one is heading to bed. Farmers have early mornings as part of their daily schedule. Looking with interest toward Thursday.
MurphTheSurf3

32 minutes ago
Got it, thanks for the explanation. Well, makes the Dem takeover of the Congress even more crucial. It won’t be easy to take both houses back in 2018 but by 2020?
AdLib 32 minutes ago
Grow great, Murph! And rest well!
AdLib 31 minutes ago
I’m signing off also. Night all.
jjgravitas

31 minutes ago
Ad…precisely so….which is why the Dems need to go full bore in GOP Takedown……Good night, friend…..your last two posts at the Planet were very interesting. I am coming back to comment on them tomorrow.
MurphTheSurf3

31 minutes ago
JJ – Hope to see you back next week! Have a great weekend!
AdLib 31 minutes ago
Nite, JJ! Hope to see you next week!
MurphTheSurf3

30 minutes ago
Look forward to it Murph! Take care!
AdLib 30 minutes ago
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