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AdLib On May - 19 - 2017
Vox Populi, our live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7 pm PDT. Adlib is following Donald Trump out of the country to see if he can make him stay there so your guest host of Vox tonight is the versatile, witty and wise Choicelady! Hope to see you then!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey everyone – check in, get a drink, settle comfortably, and we’re on our way!
choicelady

7 days ago
Hey Choice Lady! How are you?
glenn

7 days ago
Hi glenn – how are you doing? Hope things are good down there?
choicelady

7 days ago
Yup–things are good here. How about you?
glenn

7 days ago
Hey FD. How’s it going?
glenn

7 days ago
Say glenn and Ad, what be shakin?
Fuzzy Dunlop

7 days ago
Going OK. The world is nuts, but Sacramento is normal.
choicelady

7 days ago
Heyyyy FD – how are you?
choicelady

7 days ago
So, how long do you think it will take for trump to embarrass the US on his overseas trip.
glenn

7 days ago
Say dasvidaniya commrade Trump! You are fucking toast!
Fuzzy Dunlop

7 days ago
Hey CL.
Fuzzy Dunlop

7 days ago
CL–well, as normal as Sacramento can be, right?
glenn

7 days ago
Ad is off tonight, FD. He’s elsewhere. I give Trump five minutes to be quasi normal before he trashes 100 years of foreign relations.
choicelady

7 days ago
As normal as possible, glenn. Maybe I’m just used to it!
choicelady

7 days ago
Is this a WEEK or what? Rumors are that the ‘person of interest in the WH’ is none other than JARED. Hoo boy.
choicelady

7 days ago
I find it interesting that he’s beginning his trip in Saudi Arabia. Of course, that’s because we’ve just sold them another shit load of planes and military “stuff”. So trump wants to brag about what a good deal he’s made, even though I read somewhere that this deal may be illegal.
glenn

7 days ago
Ha, his overseas trip is set up to handle trump like a child. Once again the bar gets lowered for that traitorous hairball.
Fuzzy Dunlop

7 days ago
Hey Murph!
Fuzzy Dunlop

7 days ago
glenn – Trump ALSO just signd 8 deals with SA to build private things in that country. This isn’t about the USA. This is about DJT.
choicelady

7 days ago
Hey Murph!
choicelady

7 days ago
CL–I know, just had to get in a Georgia “dig” at CA. You know, us “rednecks” dont’ think too much of those damn CA liberals!
glenn

7 days ago
it always is CL.
Fuzzy Dunlop

7 days ago
Choice….in charge…..all power to the Women!
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
We damned CA liberals pretty much are used to that.
choicelady

7 days ago
Hey Murph! Hows the planting going?
glenn

7 days ago
Murph – LOL!!
choicelady

7 days ago
Well, not all…there are several in the WH I want no where near power…
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
i’m a nomadic liberal. I’ve learned to duck!
Fuzzy Dunlop

7 days ago
Murph – you mean like ALL of them?
choicelady

7 days ago
FD = it’s easier to pass if you keep moving. Good tactic.
choicelady

7 days ago
i bet there are a lot of white house staffers rewriting their resumes.
Fuzzy Dunlop

7 days ago
And it’s actually the American Bar Association that says it may be illegal!
glenn

7 days ago
Like a rolling stone!
Fuzzy Dunlop

7 days ago
FD – that’s what I hear – lots of job hunters suddenly.
choicelady

7 days ago
Hi Glenn…..the planting is going well. 5 AM out in the gardens and ending around noon….nice soft rains and good plants for tranplanting..
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Gee, I wonder why that is. HAHAHA!
Fuzzy Dunlop

7 days ago
Murph – glad things are going OK.
choicelady

7 days ago
sounds kinda nice Murph!
Fuzzy Dunlop

7 days ago
CL–well of course it’s about DJT. Why else would he go to a Muslim country?
glenn

7 days ago
glenn why does the ABA think the arms deal is illegal?
choicelady

7 days ago
Trump is traveling to the heart of Islamic fundamentalism and jihadism to make a deal with the overlords there who fear those very forces.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Did you read that the radical anti-Islam goon Donnie loves, architect of the ban, is writing the “love and friendship with SA and Muslims” speech for him?
choicelady

7 days ago
F.D. The best part of many days…..getting something that is actually, truly productive done.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Have you guys heard? Mexico called trump, and agreed to pay for his impeachment!
Fuzzy Dunlop

7 days ago
FD – let’s take Mexico up on that offer!
choicelady

7 days ago
FD….I heard that they promised to sponsor the Fiesta that would surround it.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – that’s lovely of them!
choicelady

7 days ago
Murph–glad to hear your planting is going well. That 5 a.m. is a little early for me. However, if you get a nap in after noon, then that would work!
glenn

7 days ago
go Mexico, Go!
Fuzzy Dunlop

7 days ago
Maybe they can use Sessions and Pence and Ryan as pinatas? Sounds good to me.
Fuzzy Dunlop

7 days ago
FD – LOL!
choicelady

7 days ago
Glenn….one does all one can to avoid the heat….and yes, to get in a good long snooze….the evenings are increasingly filled with political work.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I hate to think what might come out, though. Whewee, what’s that smell?
Fuzzy Dunlop

7 days ago
FD….oh the image of those pinatas that comes to mind.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – I read something about Claire today but can’t remember what she did – can you refresh me?
choicelady

7 days ago
LOL!
Fuzzy Dunlop

7 days ago
CL– “…American Bar Association has sent the Senate a legal analysis saying that President Donald Trump’s plan for an arms deal with Saudi Arabia worth more than $100 billion would be illegal because of the Saudis’ role in the ongoing conflict in Yemen. Citing “multiple credible reports of recurring and highly questionable [air]strikes’’ by the Saudi military that have killed civilians, the U.S. “cannot continue to rely on Saudi assurances that it will comply with international law and agreements concerning the use of U.S.-origin equipment,” Michael Newton, a prominent Vanderbilt University law professor and former military judge advocate general, said. Newton, in his 23-page opinion, said the strikes have continued “even after Saudi units received training and equipment to reduce civilian casualties.” “Continued sale of arms to Saudi Arabia ― and specifically of arms used in airstrikes ― should not be presumed to be permissible” under the two statutes covering most sales of military equipment by the U.S government to foreign nations, he said.
glenn

7 days ago
glenn – HOLY COW – this doofus can’t do ANYTHING legal.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL…Claire…hmmmm…she has been very active…..but nothing jumps out.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
This is from an article in the HP. I know, I know, it’s the HP, but sometimes they actually have good articles.
glenn

7 days ago
Oh well – it may come crawling back into my brain. Whatever it was, it was good.
choicelady

7 days ago
I think it’s delicious irony that trump’s massive ego is the thing that’s bringing him down.
Fuzzy Dunlop

7 days ago
Glenn…saw that today…..the Trump administration never does due diligence.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
glenn – they do. It’s the wheat/chaff thing.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL..HP is still one of my news sources.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Problem w Trump is that he’s used to being an autocrat. He has ZERO appreciation for accountability, due diligence, or anything legal.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL…good summary of Trump’s baseline weakness.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
CL–yeah trump’s speech is going to tell the Muslims how they can be more like Christians, from what I’ve read. You know, kinda like “mansplainin'”, except it’s “religionsplainin”
glenn

7 days ago
Murph – STUPIDITY is his baseline weakness.
choicelady

7 days ago
glenn – LOL!!! Oh, that is rich!!!
choicelady

7 days ago
Glenn, “religionsplainin”! Hah!
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
TRump actually thought being president would be the same as being a CEO in the private sector. What a total dumbass.
Fuzzy Dunlop

7 days ago
CL….that too.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I’d make it “cultsplaining” since they don’t remotely know Christianity either.
choicelady

7 days ago
FD – that is very clear. He cannot wrap his tiny mind around accountability or the fact he works for US, the people.
choicelady

7 days ago
Murph–well, to be fair, the article does say that the deal was begun by the Obama administration.
glenn

7 days ago
CL–I like “cultsplainin”. Good one!
glenn

7 days ago
Glenn….but at that time Saudi Arabia was not in violation of the treaties pointed out in the article.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
glenn – I’m quite sure it was on VERY different footing. DT thinks anything PBO did, he has to do YUGER.
choicelady

7 days ago
Murph – great point.
choicelady

7 days ago
I don’t see how anybody could call themselves a Christian, after CELEBRATING taking away millions of people’s healthcare.
Fuzzy Dunlop

7 days ago
Murph–that’s just a minor detail for the trump administration. You can bet that when/if the MSM brings up the suit, that’s the first thing trump will say. “Obama started it.”
glenn

7 days ago
What scumbags!
Fuzzy Dunlop

7 days ago
FD – they have tried to usurp the word Christian, but there’s not a SHRED of Christian theology in their makeup. Take a look at “The Family” by Jeff Sharlet to see how, after the 1930s, a whole new fucking religion was born to push back against progressive politics.
choicelady

7 days ago
FD When the numbers come in the House is going to have to redo their bill and then the popular shit hits the fan.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
is that what they call “muscular christianity?” Or “prosperity gospel?”
Fuzzy Dunlop

7 days ago
Murph – that’s why they’re racing against the CBO report due May 24.
choicelady

7 days ago
Glenn….predictive of Trump, yep.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
FD–I agree completely. I just don’t get how anyone can even believe they’re Christian with that mindset.
glenn

7 days ago
FD – it is certainly an extension of those ideas but INFINITLY worse. You can Google “Seven Mountains Mandate” to see the summary of their intent.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL…..the problem is that the CBO review is likely to point out where the bill cannot be offered to the Senate as a matter of budgetary reconciliation as it now stands.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
FD – you may remember I’m being stalked by them? These are the people who make the term “theocracy” look weak and wussy. They are hideously dangerous.
choicelady

7 days ago
Murph – isn’t that GOOD?
choicelady

7 days ago
CL–Do you think the CBO report will make any difference? After all, in trumpdon’tcare 1.0, the CBO estimated 24 million people would lose health care, yet trump and ryan thought it was great. And with trumpdon’tcare 2.0, even more will lost insurance, I’ll bet. But….states will have rights, by god!
glenn

7 days ago
CL…..it is because it shines a spotlight on how deeply their replacement cuts at the nation’s heart.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Still, CL?
Fuzzy Dunlop

7 days ago
even more will “lose” insurance
glenn

7 days ago
FD – no . We have four homeless guys living in the backyard. Our secruity team! They stopped it!
choicelady

7 days ago
Murph – but that’s POWERFUL to learn, and we need to spread the CBO info far and wide!
choicelady

7 days ago
glenn – let’s get that word OUT THERE!!!
choicelady

7 days ago
CL…I agree…which is why the CBO finding will create another wave of anger.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – ask me if I care. The more they are exposed, the happier my Happy Dance!
choicelady

7 days ago
CL…..I am overjoyed…every slap in the face, every jug of ice water, wakes up a few more people….in my area that is happening bit by bit.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – you may have problems, but a whole lot of people are realizing you know what the hell you’re talking about. That matters! It’s people like you, backbone of your communities, who will make real change. I can’t thank you enough for your endurance.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL…..my dear, I am an amateur in the field of endurance when compared with folks like yourself, a real and constant champion for humanity.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Oh poo – you are the fount of change. If we are going to help the “worried center” understand things, it will be via good NEIGHBORS. I do my thang, but you LIVE it.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL…well, we each have our Great Opinion of the other, and that is where it is likely to stand.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – indeed! It’s links like ours that provide strength to endure.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL–I agree–we need to get that word out there! I’m sick of hearing about trump’s scandals, while ryan and mcconnell are trying to pass these hideous laws. The “media” is still distracted by trump’s shiny objects. I want multiple reporters talking to everyday Americans about what the ACA has done for them. Granted there have been a few stories, but not enough. And, some reporter needs to show those some people exactly how trumpcare is going to change their health care. The media should be telling people that under the ACA, here’s what this person pays, and under trumpcare, here’s what this person will pay, if s/he even has insurance. The media should be doing this for all age groups and income levels. Get the facts out there. Also every Dem congressperson should be asking their constituents to come forward and tell them how the ACA has helped them, and the Congress critter could then show how trumpcare will hurt them. Facts, figures, no hyperbole, just the facts, ma’am. I’m in the process of composing a letter that actually spells this out so I can send it to my Congress critters (who are all republican), and to some media outlets.
glenn

7 days ago
May I say, as a ‘survivor’ of Watergate politics, that I have NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS WEEK!!! It took us YEARS to get rid of Nixon. DT is self destructing in WEEKS.
choicelady

7 days ago
glenn – excellent points. And I am holding the single payer people’s feet to the fire on the SAME issue. ACA has price hikes because the GOP has WITHHELD reimbursements. That can be fixed by killing off their power. So now, CA is back w the single payer plan – and I damned well insist we have the SAME rigorour examination. In VT it was NINE times more expensive than ACA – why? We deserve REAL facts and REAL info never mind the plan.
choicelady

7 days ago
Where did Murph go?
choicelady

7 days ago
Yea – you’re back, Murph! Hope all is well with your internet?
choicelady

7 days ago
brb
Fuzzy Dunlop

7 days ago
Anyone know where PPO is? I have not seen him in some time.
choicelady

7 days ago
Sorry, my server decided to crash on me…..took a moment to rerun the startup.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – all part of the nefarious plot no doubt.
choicelady

7 days ago
PPO has joined us near the end of the hour several times of late…..home concerns I gather.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
CL–I have to disagree with you a little. I agree you and I think trump is self-destructing, but I still don’t see his supporters and even most of the congress critters saying he’s self-destructing. Ryan had a radio interview the other day, had to this to say in response to this question: The mainstream media is out there blocking and tackling for ranking Minority Leader Pelosi suggesting a wave election is coming your way, that your majority is at risk,” Hewitt pointed out to Ryan. “What do you make of that?” Ryan’s answer: “Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah is what I say about that stuff. Look, this is what I call the white noise of Washington-Beltway media. We’re busy doing our work.”
glenn

7 days ago
CL…my neighbors…could one them be a secret computer geek?
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph–uh-oh. The “force” strikes again?
glenn

7 days ago
glenn – oh, they SAY it’s all a plot and everything, but the indications are that people are getting hip to the GOP perfidy. I know the hard core racists will never give up, but I have hope for the ‘worried middle’ who got punked.
choicelady

7 days ago
Murph – your neighbors would be FOOLS to mess with you!
choicelady

7 days ago
CL…they outgun me.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – maybe, but they know, deep in their hearts, you are a source of real help.
choicelady

7 days ago
Murph – you still have the gate up across the driveway? I hope so. I know you know that there are always assholes out there.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL–I’m really trying to have hope as you and Ad do, but when I read/things like Ryan’s answer, I get discouraged all over again.
glenn

7 days ago
Regarding the awakening of Trumpistas that both CL and Glenn have addressed…..it is going to take a lot to awaken many of them but I am certain that their own pain is the alarm clock (physical pain, economic pain, emotional pain) and that alarm is going to have sound again and again with incremental awakenings.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Ryan is on the ‘person of interest’ inquiry for his role in Russiagate. He is desperate. He talks a great game, but he’s running scared. So is our ever-popular Kevin Mccarthy who has the unfortunate habit of blurting the truth. He was an asshole in CA state senate and an asshole in Washington, but he does wind up underminging EVERYRTHING with his mouth.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL….some certainly know I am helpful…and my return to the co-op is a sign of that…but yes, I still have the gate and the cameras and lights.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
CL–and I read today about trump’s supporters who say actually say they don’t keep up with the news because they don’t want to hear negative things about trump; or that they think trump is doing a good job, etc, etc. They still “believe” in him. It’s hard to determine if they are many or few; but I don’t see many articles about people who are disillusioned with trump; only articles that blame trump’s troubles on anyone but trump!
glenn

7 days ago
Murph – that’s what happened in ’73-’74. Problem is they regrouped with Reagan, and still are deluded. NOW they are at the bottom of the barrell, and Trump is showing he is totally unreliable. The True Believers will never relent, but it’s YOUR neighbors who will be hurt and will see that they were lied to.
choicelady

7 days ago
glenn – there are new indications today that there is a lot of “buyer’s remorse” among Trump voters.
choicelady

7 days ago
I regard both your, CL and Glenn’s observations to be spot on.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
CL–the problem, as I see it, is even if people like my and Murph’s neighbors are hurt, they won’t put the blame on trump; it will always be someone else’s fault–mainly liberals, HRC, and PBO–so republicans will continue to get elected.
glenn

7 days ago
As far as the future – I want a Left Centrist for 2020. I want someone from the middle part of the country or at least from a middle to working class background. I think we can pull people from the ‘worried middle’ that way. NO extremists.
choicelady

7 days ago
I will say this….if my neighbors start having their young adult kids dropped from insurance plans and uncovered the shit will hit the fan.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
glenn – i think that tactic of blaming Dems is just not on anymore. Trump is SO BIG and SO WRONG that they can’t delude themselves any longer.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL–Are there any left centrists? Who would you say are left centrists? Who would you say are extremists?
glenn

7 days ago
hi all!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Murph–hope you’re not in the way when the shit hits the fan, and that you can explain to your neighbors exactly how they were shat upon!
glenn

7 days ago
glenn – I want Bernie’s faction OUT. I have no use for him. He’s done nothing in 26 years, and he is harming many issues with his rhetoric. He needs to BE and independent. I’m fine with that.
choicelady

7 days ago
PPO! Were your ears burning! You were the subject of inquiry before….where’s PPO? And here you are.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Hey PPO–how are you?
glenn

7 days ago
Hey PPO – how’s life these days?
choicelady

7 days ago
Glenn…that concern about being in the way is real.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Not bad, all! Still looking at flowers from the right side. Good medical news this week.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Murph – keep a low profile but be willing to help when you can. Kindness matters.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL…I am with you on the Bernie Business…Bernie is nearly as great an egotist as Trumplestilkskin.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
PPO – I’m sorry, I didn’t know you had medical issues. Are you OK?
choicelady

7 days ago
PPO…what news?
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
CL–so even though HRC and the Dems adopted many of Bernie’s ideas into the DNC platform, you think that he’s harming the party?
glenn

7 days ago
thanks Murph. What with Oz on winter time and US on Summer time the timing is awkward
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
CL….sage counsel.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
PPO–it’s always nice to be on this side of the flowers, isn’t it?
glenn

7 days ago
Don’t want to bore you but had a bad stomach pain and after scans and a gastroscopy no cancer found and the soreness has gone. No one quuite knows why.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
hi glenn, cl. Nice to be remembered and thught of
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Mystery illness…but in this case that is ok.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph and CL–whom would you all consider centrists?
glenn

7 days ago
glenn – they did NOT adopt Bern’s issues. They were DEM issues that got tweaked. That’s the LIE. and then Bern rolld over to work w Trump because he jettisoned women, POC, and all issues other than courting the WWC. He called the Trump people ‘economically worried’ when they were NOT. SHE got the majority of working class under $50K. Bern is an elite racist and has three issues,a nd I’m DONE with him. He did not win CA for a reason – he’s a phony. And we have THE most open and accessible voting system in America – no freaking fraud. He just LOST.
choicelady

7 days ago
Murph–that’s good advice from CL–keep your head down, and be kind! Love it!
glenn

7 days ago
Actually Glenn Obama is one of the best examples of a centrist, joined by Biden, Clinton et all. Obama is center left, Biden center center and Clinton center right.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
glenn – not sure, and I want to really think about it. I am actually OK with white males if they’re seriously great, but I don’t know who’s out there. One thing for sure – it ain’t Kamala Harris who sucked here as Attorney General!
choicelady

7 days ago
Murph – I think Clinton is Center Left. She wasn’t always. She is now.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL–I get POC, but what is WWC?
glenn

7 days ago
PPO – just so you’re above ground as you note! Hope whatever it is, it goes away!
choicelady

7 days ago
CL…not her foreign policy…..but I get your point…she was pushed to move.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Is Adlib MIA tooday?
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
glenn – White Working Class. HRC got the vast majority of that vote. Trump voters were MORE well off, more like stockbroker traineees and country club people along with massive RACISTS, and Bern won’t deal with that latter part.
choicelady

7 days ago
Murph – no, she’d already gotten to where she is on social issues, and she was MORE left than Bern on women, POC, basic justice. He is a vulgar Marxist and has done NOTHING in his 26 years to move a single piece of legislation.
choicelady

7 days ago
PPO – AdLib is…traveling. I’m aware of where he is and deeply envious, but I’m not at liberty to disclose only that we’d ALL want to be there.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL…I can go along with all of that….most importantly for me…he has just not gotten anything done…he does not make allies or form coalitions.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
cl, sort-of agree with you. I’m going off Bernie. Wish he’d start criticizing GOP and not this constant anti-Dem diatribe
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Murph – I’m a lobbyists and policy analyst, and looking at his rotten record makes me want to hurl. He is a phony.
choicelady

7 days ago
PPO…and there you have it….who you critique tells you a lot about who you support.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Lucky Ad, CL!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO – he’d cuddling up with Trump hoping to get that white working class vote that doesn’t exist and for whom he’s done jack in all his life.
choicelady

7 days ago
If you all did not see Maher tonight….one of the best in a very long time.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
CL–I think the DNC should really be working on bringing some young people, male or female, POC or WWC (just figured out what it means), or whatever. Just good ole Americans who have ideas for moving us forward. I don’t want to see extremists like the tea party cretins, but the DNC does need some “new blood”, IMO. Maybe not “new”, but at least not old, like Bernie, or even Hillary. People like Al Franken, maybe.
glenn

7 days ago
BRB
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
glenn – that IS Tom’s strategy. He and Keith are a great team.
choicelady

7 days ago
glenn, I just wish the Dems would quit squabbling and unite against the GOP. If they don’t, despite all the scandals, they won’t win the midterms
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
glenn – I think Franken would be great. MANY of the Dem senators and maybe Adam Schiff who turns out to be funny and personable. He’s one of ours, always thought he had a stick up his butt, but in an interview he totally ROCKED Obama style. I’d love to see a lot of these folks in the running – though NOT Kamala Harris about whom I know FAR too much bad stuff.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL–Hope that strategy bears fruit sometime soon.
glenn

7 days ago
PPO – the squabbling is not internal but v Bern who is destructive. We have to define the party which means pushing back against that kind of substanceless phoniness.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL and Murph–your observations about Bernie and even Hillary are quite interesting. I like what I’m reading about Schiff, too. It’s going to be an interesting mid term election, I think.
glenn

7 days ago
glenn – I am happy Tom and Keith believe in the ’50 state strategy’ that bore fruit in 2006. We NEVER should have given it up!
choicelady

7 days ago
has Liartrump managed to declare war on Saudi arabia yet?
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO – I think he just landed so watch the east for eruptions! His speechwriter is the Islamophobe who created the Muslim ban who is supposed to write DT warm and fuzzy things about Muslim-American solidarity. As if.
choicelady

7 days ago
PPO–I agree about the squabbling. That’s one of the reasons we lost the presidential election, IMO. I watch republicans unite around their candidates, no matter how flawed, no matter how damaged, they are, and think, “why can’t the Dems do that?” I mean, even now, look at all of trump’s baggage, yet the congress critters are still not talking against him.
glenn

7 days ago
Remember – Dems WON THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. What we lost was via seriously dangerous Russian and Cambridge Analytica corruption. She owon 3 M in the pop vote, and the 77K loss was seriously due to massive corruption. So let’s not pretend she and the Dems did a lot WRONG. We and they did NOT.
choicelady

7 days ago
Okay, folks, once again, I’ve learned a few things; and had my assumptions challenged, which is always a good thing, so I’m a happy camper. I’m also out of here, so good night to all of you. Hope you all have a wonderful weekend. Tell Murph and FD I said see them next week. ‘Night CL and PPO.
glenn

7 days ago
Back…read through the heavy discussion while I was away….boy, you guys pulled out the heavy artillery in the last round
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
glenn – the fact some of the GOP remain solidary w Trump is because they are ALSO part of the investigation. Ryan and McConnell are SERIOUOSLY in trouble.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL…I have read many mixed reviews of Harris. You see to concur.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
‘night, glenn. I’m also away, Fergie calls! See you all next week
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
glenn – good night, dear friend – sweet dreams. Good as alwys to see you!
choicelady

7 days ago
Glenn…with regarding the need for the dems to join ranks.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – I have PERSONAL issues on two MAJOR things about her.
choicelady

7 days ago
Night PPO – be well!
choicelady

7 days ago
And with that I must say good night…..5 AM is 7 hours away. Not so much…..let’s continue this discussion same time same place…At the Planet!
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Here we are, Murph, the two of us. You need to go, so I;ll say adieu. Be well. GREAT to see you!
choicelady

7 days ago
CL…..I’d be interested in your insights about her. Maybe by e mail.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Will do, dear friend. I will burn your ears!
choicelady

7 days ago
Good discussion tonight. You did a fine job.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
E mail would be great…..
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Thanks – its’ fun to be back! Sweet dreams, good planting. See you soon.
choicelady

7 days ago
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