Vox Populi, our weekly live chat on the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PST. Hope to see you then!
AdLib5 hours ago
Hey Folks!
AdLib2 hours ago
Good evening, Ad and PPO. How is everyone tonight? PPO, haven’t heard much about your Fergie lately. How is she doing?
glenn
2 hours ago
Hi Ad, you doing okay?
glenn
2 hours ago
Doing well, you?
AdLib2 hours ago
Same old, same old.
glenn
2 hours ago
Are we all Russian around?
AdLib2 hours ago
So, do you think there is some “there, there”?
glenn
2 hours ago
There is a THERE! there, you bet!
AdLib2 hours ago
Hi Ad and glenn. Fergie’s fine, apart from the usual crap like IBS, one eye, scoliosis, new hip and a few other things!
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
PPO–okay, glad to hear everything’s “normal”.
glenn
2 hours ago
Is everyone, like me, suffering from Scrotus fatigue?
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
Yipe, PPO! Is Fergie in pain?
AdLib2 hours ago
Ad–our so-called president has been getting away with crap all of his life; I think his reckoning is coming up soon. I still think, though, that republicans are dragging their feet because they’re waiting for him to sign their ridiculous bills.
glenn
2 hours ago
No, DG ad. Just a challenge or two every day, it seems. But she’s a trouper
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
PPO – I’m actually re-energized after this week, Trumpy’s in trouble!
AdLib2 hours ago
PPO–If scrotus fatigue means that we’re sick of our so-called president getting away with crap day after day, then yes, I suffer from it.
glenn
2 hours ago
glenn – You’ve nailed it perfectly, that’s the situation with Repubs!
AdLib2 hours ago
I tweeted to george takei: Where is the Benghazigate uproar now?
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
PPO – I know she’s tough, just wish she didn’t have to deal with all of that.
AdLib2 hours ago
PPO–You’ll love this one! I just read an article where Hugh Hewitt, a gop pundit, said today that the MSM just didn’t pay enough attention to Benghazi and other Obama “scandals.”
glenn
2 hours ago
Ad–I will believe our so-called president is in “trouble” when I see the impeachment hearings begin and when he is escorted out of the Oval Office for malfeasance.
glenn
2 hours ago
Oh God, glenn. Really???
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
glenn – Hewitt is a supreme douche, he is as dishonest and unprincipled as Trump. He was NeverTrump then flipped oovernight when Trump won.
AdLib2 hours ago
PPO–swear to god, he is quoted as saying that. In fact, I think it was a twitter feed.
glenn
2 hours ago
Have to laugh at Trumps directive about lobbyists. Hasn’t he just lined his office with them?
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
Ad–oh yeah, I know hewitt is a twit. Just have to laugh, though, at the way repubs seem to think they can rewrite history every day.
glenn
2 hours ago
PPO–IOIYAR.
glenn
2 hours ago
…at the way repubs rewrite history, and the repub rubes eat it up!
glenn
2 hours ago
Something weird about the GOP, Ad. They seem to be all suffering from amnesia. Thank goodness we dont!
pinkpantheroz
2 hours ago
The panic we’re seeing in Repubs is damn entertaining. They’re worried the election being overturned from the whole Trump campaign being convicted!
AdLiban hour ago
Before they can pass all their horrible bills.
AdLiban hour ago
Ad–that’s why they have to hide their health care bill. Mustn’t let the public see it, nor let the CBO analyze it. Otherwise, their empty promises will be brought to light!
glenn
an hour ago
Hey Harleigh!
AdLiban hour ago
Hey Harleigh…long time, no “see”. How are you?
glenn
an hour ago
Ad–will melania visit trump in prison?
glenn
an hour ago
welcome H! long time. How’s the health?
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
hey guys!
Harleigh
an hour ago
PPO–speaking of rewriting history…Sean Hannity has also said that conservatives “never picked on MIchelle Obama and the Obama daughters.” That’s a direct quote….ain’t conservatism wonderful?
glenn
an hour ago
I’m well now thanks
Harleigh
an hour ago
glenn – I think they’re between a rock and hard place with their ACA repeal bill. They know it will get destroyed the secoond it’s made public and will try to shove it through before people know what’s in it…like they falsely accused Obama of doing with the ACA. But it won’t work.
AdLiban hour ago
Harleigh–glad to hear you’re well now. Good news!
glenn
an hour ago
glenn – Melania will visit Trump in jail but insist on no conjugal visits.
AdLiban hour ago
glenn,she’ll never visit. She can’t even make it to the WH
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Ad–don’t think they have conjugal visits now!
glenn
an hour ago
You’re feeling better Harleigh?
AdLiban hour ago
McTurtle ask we give drumpf the same respect that they gave Obama. OK… we will.
Harleigh
an hour ago
Ad, I’m sure she’d be eternally grateful for that!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
PPO–well, you know she has to get Barron to school!
glenn
an hour ago
glenn – Then in Trump’s case, conjob visits.
AdLiban hour ago
Baron Von Trump…wasn’t that a Marvel supervillain?
AdLiban hour ago
AD it was 3 weeks of antbiotics to finally get rid of my respiratory infection… all of january.
Harleigh
an hour ago
Oh, poor widdle Uggums!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Ouch, Harleigh. Hope you’re better now, coming into spring – not that you’d know it in some parts
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Ad–I love it that rand paul is the one who started the search. Dems should be “looking” for that bill every day now, and putting their faces in front of every camera they can, asking “Where’s the bill”
glenn
an hour ago
It’s the updated version of “Where’s Waldo?”
glenn
an hour ago
jobs jobs jobs
Harleigh
an hour ago
Con, Con, Con
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Ad–good one! Conjob visits!
glenn
an hour ago
And how about American Psycho Trump meeting with the Russian Ambassador with Flynn…and Trump’s previously said no one had meetings with Russia. They met in Trump Tower!
AdLiban hour ago
But the bugger didn’t say it under oath, dammit
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Harleigh – That can be very dangerous! Glad you’re better!
AdLiban hour ago
Hey Sue!!!
AdLiban hour ago
the whole russia thingis unraveling fast… the whole cabal
Harleigh
an hour ago
Nice to see you!
AdLiban hour ago
Harleigh–and don’t forget, “buy American”, except for the pipeline…that’s exempt from the rules.
glenn
an hour ago
Whew 40 items in 4 auctions takes tons of time. Hey everyone!
SueInCa
an hour ago
Hey Sue! How are you?
glenn
an hour ago
Hiya Sue. Welcome!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
This is like an oasis after all that. Hi glenn and pink!
SueInCa
an hour ago
Sue – Cool! For Blue Licorice?
AdLiban hour ago
hey sue!
Harleigh
an hour ago
yep but it brings in the sales
SueInCa
an hour ago
Harleigh!
SueInCa
an hour ago
glenn – Rand and other Repubs will kill Ryan’s repeal and replace bill.
AdLiban hour ago
So is the news good this week or what? The whole shitstorm is about to blow up
SueInCa
an hour ago
Sue–you’re right…Friday nights keeps me sane in our new alternate reality.
glenn
an hour ago
Howdy everyone – and HEY SUE! Long time, no see!
choicelady
an hour ago
Sue – I think this is a mortal injury to Trump and the GOP. It’s not going to fade, investigations will go on for years!
AdLiban hour ago
Hey CL!!!
AdLiban hour ago
There are so many elements to this Russia thing, but it is a mortal hit for sure, Hey CL!!!
SueInCa
an hour ago
Ad–I hope you’re correct about that. There are many unhappy repubs because the bill doesn’t destroy the whole health care thingy! They’re such caring individuals. But I’ll bet they’ll vote for however many more billions our so-called president wants for the military. Money for military; death for healthcare!
glenn
an hour ago
Hey back atcha, AdLib – nice to be back. My Fridays hav been bizarre lately. Good to be here.
choicelady
an hour ago
Hey CL–how are you?
glenn
an hour ago
“President Donald Trump’s Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin used his first senior staff meeting last month to tell his new aides he would not tolerate leaks to the news media, sources familiar with the matter said.” Leaks about leaking about leaks!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Hi glenn – I’m pretty OK how ar YOU?
choicelady
an hour ago
Hey PPO – that makes no sense, but it’s Mnuchin, so…
choicelady
an hour ago
Ha ha the leaks will continue, Pink and it is driving them nuts
SueInCa
an hour ago
Hi CL!
Harleigh
an hour ago
glenn – I do think Repubs may keep trying to sabotage the ACA but they’ll never pass their repeal and replace.
AdLiban hour ago
Hi. Choice!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
CL–same old, same old. Still hanging in there, and looking forward to my dose of sanity every Friday night.
glenn
an hour ago
I have never seen leaks like these. And it was driven by the National Park Service with which I have worked. Geeks rule!
choicelady
an hour ago
CL, you and Sue have been missed!
AdLiban hour ago
It would be suicide for them now that people actually know ACA is Obamacare SMDH
SueInCa
an hour ago
Hi Harleigh!
choicelady
an hour ago
A lot of black money goes through National Parks Services.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
We’ve missed you, too – but life has intruded.
choicelady
an hour ago
Thanks, Adlib, I have missed the gang here too
SueInCa
an hour ago
PPO – it did not go through NPS in “my day” when it was a very great set of people doing good things.
choicelady
an hour ago
glad we’re all here tonite
Harleigh
an hour ago
PPO – Love “leaks about leaking”! Tooo funny, Trump created so many enemies just in the transition, especially in the Intelligence Community and staffers!
AdLiban hour ago
This group rocks! welcome all
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Sue – I agree that now Obamacare and ACA have been shown to be THE SAME THING that threre is a lot of “buyers’ remorse” going on.
choicelady
an hour ago
Sue–well, most repub voters are still trying to understand that Obamacare thingy. It’s the name that gets them. I’ve actually read replies on blogs that people say, Why did Obama name it Obamacare? Just proves how in love with himself he is. They don’t seem to know that it’s the stupid repubs that named it that. Of course, there’s a lot they don’t know; that’s why we have this so-called president!
glenn
an hour ago
Hey AdLib -feared Trump had come for you there for a mment.
choicelady
an hour ago
Glad you’re here too, Harleigh, glenn and PPO!
AdLiban hour ago
Sue – it WAS the GOP (and some CA single payer assholes) who called it Obamacare.
choicelady
an hour ago
glenn, the fools don’t know that the ACA and obamacare are one and the same. Proven again and again.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Ad–it is nice to have some of the “old gang” back again!
glenn
an hour ago
Who you callin old, Willis?
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
glenn – how is life, how are you, how are the grandkids?
choicelady
an hour ago
PPO–if the shoe fits….
glenn
an hour ago
PPO – LOL!! I’m right there with you on the “old” part!
choicelady
an hour ago
unfortunately, it does!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
They are so hateful they tried to get rid of their own healthcare, that speaks volumes
SueInCa
an hour ago
The polls finally show the ACA having a majority supporting it! Noow the Repubs are the enemies of the majority INCLUDING Trump supporters who bought his coon job on making the replacement of the ACA fairy dust and rainbows.
AdLiban hour ago
brb
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
So my latest pissed off moment is reading that DT is planning for ICE to separate women from children who cross the border. A “Sophie’s Choice” moment in US Gestapo history.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL–I’m doing well; life is still good; and the grandkids are doing well. My oldest granddaughter got married in a beautiful wedding on Dec. 30th. And took a trip to Scottsdale, AZ last week to visit a friend, so I’m good.
glenn
an hour ago
Sounds like your life is going well, Glenn
SueInCa
an hour ago
glenn – ohhh that’s so NICE! And Scottsdale is very fine though I wouldn’t want to live there!
choicelady
an hour ago
PPO–I know, and I’m wearing the matching pair!
glenn
an hour ago
Sue – I think Trump’s voters are just ignorant rubes. They really think he wants to give them wonderful things. Morons. Sorry but they are.
AdLiban hour ago
Wait until the Coal miners get their letter about their healthcare going bye bye
SueInCa
an hour ago
My daughter in CO had a new little daughter and she’s 2 months today.
Harleigh
an hour ago
CL–reminiscent of the “camp trains”, isn’t it?
glenn
an hour ago
Harleigh – congratulations gramps! My granddaughter-by-proxy is now ten, and I cannot believe it.
choicelady
an hour ago
I saw her picture, Harleigh, she is beautiful
SueInCa
an hour ago
glenn – it is truly horrifying.
choicelady
an hour ago
Sue–I can’t complain about my life.
glenn
an hour ago
My grandson is 17 this month and completes two years of HS this year to graduate early
SueInCa
an hour ago
the stupid miners are losing pensions and HC. Wait when they lose heating assistance and SNAP.
Harleigh
an hour ago
CL – I hate to say it but we need to have Trump do enough hoorrible things that the big wave electioons come in 2018 and 2020. So his cruel use of ICE against harmless people will come back on him as The Resistance stands up against them.
AdLiban hour ago
Sue – HOW DID HE GET TO BE 17???? Last I recall he was a little kid! Obviously we need to talk more!
choicelady
an hour ago
CL–Yeah, I wouldn’t want to live in Scottsdale, either. Desert landscape doesn’t do much for me!
glenn
an hour ago
Thanks Sue!
Harleigh
an hour ago
CL the churches are stepping up. A Catholic diocese ordered all of their churches to become sanctuaries
SueInCa
an hour ago
Congrats Harleigh!
AdLiban hour ago
Adlib, you can send my email to CL
SueInCa
an hour ago
AddLib – The Resistance is powerful because it’s borrowing from the Civil Rights movment and turning to both activism AND advocacy.
choicelady
an hour ago
Harleigh–Congrats on the new granddaughter. Is that your first grandchild? Grandchildren are just wonderful, especially granddaughters!
glenn
an hour ago
Wow, congrats to you too Sue! That’s fantastic! My ex-little girl is going to HS this Fall.
AdLiban hour ago
Ha they actually took the Tea Party rule book and rewrote it for the resistance
SueInCa
an hour ago
Sue – our Protestant ones are, too. InterfaithMobilization for Human Integrity is leading, the United Methodists are doing it as well.
choicelady
an hour ago
Of course Sue, happy to!
AdLiban hour ago
High School Adlib? Get out your wallet
SueInCa
an hour ago
glenn i never see my son or his ex’s or kids. LOL
Harleigh
an hour ago
Ad–do you mean to say that our so-called president hasn’t done enough horrible things already? He needs to do MORE?
glenn
an hour ago
Indivisible Guide is doing well, so well that the GOP are warning about them as almost terrorists!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
CL–glad to hear churches are stepping up.
glenn
an hour ago
CL – And The Resistance has a truly horrible person as an enemy. Nothing strengthens a resistance than having a strong enemy.
AdLiban hour ago
CL our parish was already doing it but still waiting for the formal ok from the diocese in Sac
SueInCa
an hour ago
Harleigh–don’t know what the situation is with your son, but I’m sorry to hear that.
glenn
an hour ago
Sue – I think it’s less the Tea Party and more those who remember the Civil Rights Movement and it’s powerful unity of activism and advocacy that has turned the tide. In the Women’s March 1-21 the diversity of people and unity of purpose was AMAZING. I marched in Sacto, and we had 20K on the Capital grounds and ANOTHER 20K in the streets. ALL of us were focused on speaking truth to power however we can.
choicelady
an hour ago
Sue – I know!!! We better get a return on our investment in our daughter! It ain’t cheap!
AdLiban hour ago
I am so proud of all the people who are joining in on the resistance, people I know who have never been activists are stepping up. CL the guy who wrote the handbook took it from the Tea Paty book
SueInCa
an hour ago
Harleigh – I’m sorry for your family estrangement. That was and is much of my own experience.
choicelady
an hour ago
kiss that money goodbye, AD! You’ll break even, at best! But Love is priceless
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Ad–my youngest granddaughter starts high school in the fall, too. Hard to believe the time has gone by so quickly!
glenn
an hour ago
glenn – Some people really need to suffer badly enough to snap out of their apathy and join The Resistance. The worse Trump gets, the bigger The Resistance will grow!
AdLiban hour ago
glenn – that is very fine, but gosh the years fly by!
choicelady
an hour ago
By the time you get to Senior year, with a girl, just leave your wallet on the entry way table lol
SueInCa
an hour ago
glenn he got messed up in a motorcyle wreck a few years ago, is one of those biker jebus freaks and hates minorities. In short became all the things my wife and I won’ fucking tolerate, me being somewhat opinionated and a little librul. LOL
Harleigh
an hour ago
“Indivisible” could have been written by my organization, and I love it but can’t really USE it since it is partisan. But I do recommend it to everyone.
choicelady
an hour ago
ha ha I thought you were retiring, CL
SueInCa
an hour ago
Harleigh – oh damn. I am SO sorry. Bikers for Jebus creep ME out and I work for a large progressive faith organization.
choicelady
an hour ago
Sue – I was. Then Trump. Fuck him.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – Agreed, the Tea Party is dwarfed by The Resistance AND they were also subsidized by The Kochs and all, it did start as astroturf but millions of people turning out in record numbers the day after the inauguration? That’s a genuine popular movement!
AdLiban hour ago
CL–yup, time flies. I’m waiting to hear from my oldest granddaughter when I’ll be a great grandmother. She and her husband are anxious to have kids; she has some health problems that she’s working on before she gets pregnant, but they’re ready to start a family.
glenn
an hour ago
If Hillary had won I think I would have retired. Now. I can’t.
choicelady
an hour ago
Hey my flag says I am in SF but I am in little tiny Benicia lol
SueInCa
an hour ago
REAL movements trump (snark) astroturf any day of the week.
choicelady
an hour ago
Harleigh–it’s tough when family members are separated. I hope some day you can be reunited with him. In the meantime, I love your being a liberal!
glenn
an hour ago
Sue – you still in that wonderful place from a few years back? I WILL come down to see you!
choicelady
an hour ago
Hey peeps!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
PPO – I know though my daughter is an athlete and has a good shot at a college scholarship, at least saving us some dough there!
AdLiban hour ago
Yep, we bought and are not moving ever again. We have move 14 times in 44 years
SueInCa
an hour ago
AdLib – AND your daughter is a terrific human being already!
choicelady
an hour ago
hi fd!
Harleigh
an hour ago
FD! How goesit?
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Hey Harliegh!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Hey FD – I don’t know you but Hi.
choicelady
an hour ago
Hey Fuzzy–how goes it?
glenn
an hour ago
glenn – Your granddaughter is the same age then as my girl then! Yours plays soccer, mine plays softball!
AdLiban hour ago
Sup, P? Glenn? I hope all is well.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Hey FD!
AdLiban hour ago
Sue – I rmember that. I’m glad you’re fine now where you are!
choicelady
an hour ago
cl, FD had another name before.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
FD – who are you REALLY? We probably know each other then.
choicelady
an hour ago
How goes it, Ad?
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
It’s me C Lady…Killgore Trout
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Ad–That’s right, I remember from far back when we discussed our kids. I wish your daughter well on getting the scholarship.
glenn
an hour ago
HEY!!!! Why the change of moniker? GREAT to see you!!!
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – Thanks so much CL! You saw how much she grew too!
AdLiban hour ago
Sue–sounds like you have moved as much as I have. Keeps you on your toes, doesn’t it? Glad to hear you found somewhere to settle!
glenn
an hour ago
Ad, best of luck for your girl gettin a scholarship
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
I had a bit of log in trouble with KT, and I just changed it to Fuzzy Dunlop!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
I would NEVER have recognized her! She is tall and gorgeous but didn’t see the little girl I once met there!
choicelady
an hour ago
Well so glad to see you, FD – whatever the name! Hope you’re well?
choicelady
an hour ago
CL – Yep, Indivisible is great but your org is great too! Fighting the good fight and making a difference! All those resisting Trump are going to be together in this!
AdLiban hour ago
FD – not to touch a sore point, but how is your mother?
choicelady
an hour ago
I am doing great CL. I hope the same for you. Well, besides our current state of the union.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Sue – That’s crazy, moving so much! Nice to finally be settled in!
AdLiban hour ago
FD – we all have to make clear the diff btw the personal and the Trump.
choicelady
an hour ago
Disgusted that a person arrested for 6 Jewish bomb threats is not only a journalist, but black. Shame on him
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Glenn it was mostly me, moving up and closer to work, Tony stayed with one company for 30 years. Also school districts and such. Now we are pretty status quo
SueInCa
an hour ago
PPO–I agree, shame on him.
glenn
an hour ago
Absolutely. We need each other now, more than ever.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
PPO – I read that the person who made the threats is a poster from a RW set of web sites including Infowars.
choicelady
an hour ago
Thanks PPO! She’s got to keep working hard at school and softball but she’s going in the right direction!
AdLiban hour ago
Hey Killgore, did not see you come in
SueInCa
an hour ago
Ad–your daughter is going in the right direction because she has such a wonderful guide.
glenn
an hour ago
Hey Sue!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
Sue, KT is now FD!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
No he is always KT to me
SueInCa
an hour ago
I’ve been reborn. Long live Killgore Trout!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
I really am appalled at the people pushing over dead peoples gravestones! WTF??
Harleigh
an hour ago
CL – Yep, you saw her first at the anti-Koch rally, she was around 8?
AdLiban hour ago
What is a Fuzzy Dunlop?
SueInCa
an hour ago
KT forever!
choicelady
an hour ago
Sue, he can be KTFD!
glenn
an hour ago
That’s a handle and a half!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
glenn – that sounds like a fast food franchise – KTFD!
choicelady
an hour ago
Fuzzy Dunlop…is PEOPLE!
AdLiban hour ago
There you go Glenn
SueInCa
an hour ago
And Killgore Trout
AdLiban hour ago
CL–great minds do think alike! That’s exactly what I thought when I typed it!
glenn
an hour ago
It’s similar to a Dropkick Murphy, but with SOuthern Comfort instead of Jamesons!
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Fuzzy is a made up name from the wonderful series..The Wire.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
glenn – LOL!!!
choicelady
an hour ago
KTFD–do you have a lot of people living in your head?
glenn
an hour ago
P There’s a great Boston Band Named The Dropkick Murphys.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
FD – I have but have yet to view the ENTIRE series of The Wire. We got it just in time for our DVD to crap out. Now we have replaced it. I think I’ll watch it.
choicelady
an hour ago
Thanks glenn, wishing the same good wishes to your granddaughter.
AdLiban hour ago
not as many as I used to.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
CL–“Kilgore Trout Finely Done?”
glenn
an hour ago
FD, quite a few pubs around the world are so nmed.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
FD – LOL!
choicelady
an hour ago
KTFD–kicked them out, did you?
glenn
an hour ago
glenn – How very kind!!! Thank you soo much!
AdLiban hour ago
It’s really well written, produced and acted. It is also very true to some sad realities in America. It is absolutely worth the viewing time.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
glenn – there you go! NICELY done!
choicelady
an hour ago
I ask them to take leave. I may need them some day!
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
FD – I heard an interview w the producer who said it was thinly veiled interpretation of W’s America. I guess I’ve had those DVDs a long time!
choicelady
an hour ago
KTFD–If I didn’t have the voices in my head sometimes, I wouldn’t have anyone to talk to!
glenn
an hour ago
Thanks, CL
glenn
an hour ago
glenn – and the voice NEVER argue back. If you’re lucky.
choicelady
an hour ago
CL–my problem is they do argue back! It’s how I can take two positions on the same issue! LOL!
glenn
an hour ago
Ok I have an idea for a piece on PP. I have some friends who have provided me with some really good back story that explains a lot of what is going on. If I can ever sit down and put it all in chronological order, I will. One guy put out, in a series of tweets, most of the players in the trump campaign and their links to Russia. Another tied Russia to Turkey and Trump as the entity that is still working on our country.
SueInCa
an hour ago
PPO – That is such an awful thing, the bomb threat asshole…the Repubs will have a heyday that he’s black and a journalist. “See? They are the enemy!”
AdLiban hour ago
Not only W’s America. But what the series shows is happening in every big city in America. and has been for a few decades now. It really shows the insanity of the war on drugs, the corrution in our police departs and city and governments, and even our news media.
Fuzzy Dunlop
an hour ago
ANy comments on Kellyanne Cacophonix’ photo. I think it so disrespectful towards the Teachers.
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Sue – that definitly needs your find hand. Go for it! I’ve been following it all on Twitter, and it needs consolidation.
choicelady
an hour ago
What photo PPO?
SueInCa
an hour ago
Sue–That would be a great piece. Josh Marshall on another blog is trying to put all the pieces together, too. He has had some interesting articles lately in trying to put all the moving pieces together.
glenn
an hour ago
glenn – I only get to do the things that the voices in my wife’s head tell her to tell me what to do!
Harleigh
an hour ago
Sue – the one of her in the Oval Office, feet up on a sofa
pinkpantheroz
an hour ago
Here’s to the downfall of Jeff Sessions. May he be the string that helps unravel the evil web known as the Trump adminstration.
Fuzzy Dunlop
44 minutes ago
PPO – she’s a righteous bitch, is KAC. That was gross. The photog askd her to move her feet – and that’s what she did. She could have moved her damned SELF but noooo.
choicelady
44 minutes ago
LOL Harliegh!
Fuzzy Dunlop
44 minutes ago
I will look him up Glenn. Mine are people most people don’t even know but they were posting this stuff back in October and it has all come true
SueInCa
44 minutes ago
FD – I’m with you – Sessions may be th Keystone.
choicelady
44 minutes ago
Harleigh–that only makes you a great husband!
glenn
44 minutes ago
Oh the college professors, that was disgusting
SueInCa
44 minutes ago
Thankfully, the dems and our intel agencies are going to “move on,” concerning the Russian mess. Much to Trump’s consternation.
Fuzzy Dunlop
43 minutes ago
Harleigh -could you teach MY husband how to listen to the voice in MY head please?
choicelady
43 minutes ago
Does Sessions stay as AG? At least until his conversations with the Russian Ambassador are leaked and prove he’s lying now about not talking aboout the campaign/election?
AdLib43 minutes ago
Sessions will break it all up, funny how that works. He was so low key, many republican voters were still claiming this week he had nothing to do with the campaign. I knew different
SueInCa
42 minutes ago
AdLib – yes, he will stay for the moment. I don’t see him surviving. The move toward an independent investigator is now seriously bi-partisan EVEN as weasel Issa backs out.
choicelady
42 minutes ago
Ad–of course Sessions stays as AG. That is, until our so-called president decides he’s a “disaster”, and fires him.
glenn
42 minutes ago
Whether he is proven to have lied, in a court of law, he can not be trusted as America’s top cop. He has shown himself to be quite dishonest and untrustworthy.
Fuzzy Dunlop
42 minutes ago
Ad, he’s shot himself in the foot because he has now recused himself for ANY investigation into the campaigns, not just the Russian Connection
pinkpantheroz
42 minutes ago
Agree FD
SueInCa
42 minutes ago
Agree, FD
pinkpantheroz
41 minutes ago
be back in a minute
SueInCa
41 minutes ago
Sue – One of the historical black college deans came out to say he was so upset and surprised that instead of having a conference, they were trotted out foor that photo op. And he took a lot of heat for being with Trump…who he didn’t want to be with!
AdLib41 minutes ago
FD – I am ROTFLMAO with how #45 is insisting that Schumer and Pelosi need to be ‘investigated’ for PUBLIC meetings w the Russian Ambassador. This man ain’t right in the head.
choicelady
41 minutes ago
His character is now besmirched. (I love that word)
Fuzzy Dunlop
41 minutes ago
FD–hasn’t it already been proven that he lied to Congress? He said he had no contact with russians, and there is proof that he did.
glenn
41 minutes ago
SUE!!! where would you have seen all that??? LOL the weird part is it is all so bizarre that it was very hard to believe and then it came true in SPADES!!
Harleigh
41 minutes ago
Dolt 45
Fuzzy Dunlop
41 minutes ago
FD – WHOSE character? Lost the “he” in your comment.
choicelady
40 minutes ago
Yes, FD, I haven’t had a good smirch in ages!
pinkpantheroz
40 minutes ago
The malt liquor you cannot believe!
Fuzzy Dunlop
40 minutes ago
So, if he lied to Congress, isn’t that grounds for impeachment? After all, if you lie about a blow job and get impeached, isn’t lying about contact with russians also lying to Congress?
glenn
40 minutes ago
I hear ya P!
Fuzzy Dunlop
40 minutes ago
Sessions.
Fuzzy Dunlop
40 minutes ago
sure is glenn.
Fuzzy Dunlop
39 minutes ago
AdLib – I think the HBCU presidents were caught tween a rock and a hard place. Go and you sold out. NOT go and you’re ‘scared’. So going and speaking OUT is a good outcome.
choicelady
39 minutes ago
FD – THAT I can buy 100%!
choicelady
39 minutes ago
Friends, Harleigh. I have gotten things from different people. I use FB for business but I keep it separate from my social activism and politics on fb
SueInCa
39 minutes ago
CL–most of America is now caught between a rock and a hard spot. The rock being our so-called president. And, I know that’s an insult to rocks!
glenn
38 minutes ago
Yes, Glenn he is guilty of perjury
SueInCa
38 minutes ago
Agree, cl I’m sure that it was the last place they wanted to be, but it IS the White House
pinkpantheroz
38 minutes ago
glenn – it’s grounds IF AND ONLY IF the majority party wills it. That’s our weakness – we do not control Congress.
choicelady
38 minutes ago
CL – I was watching Vice News and the expert on it said that a Select Committee with a bipartisan panel might be the quickest and most effective way to go. They can get any info from anyone and won’t move at the glacial pace as an Independent Commision. They can also release any info to the public which these Intelligence Committees and Independent Prosecutors can’t.
AdLib38 minutes ago
SUE, yep. I’m watching you!!! LOL
Harleigh
37 minutes ago
AdLib – that’s an interesting piece of info, thanks!
choicelady
37 minutes ago
Sue–so if he’s guilty of perjury, why isn’t he being fired?
glenn
37 minutes ago
America really is facing a crisis. We are witnessing a nascent dictatorship, and our congress and press keep ignoring that hard truth.
Fuzzy Dunlop
37 minutes ago
glenn – due process. He has not been tried or convicted of perjury yet. YET.
choicelady
37 minutes ago
He has to be proven to have deliberately lied, glenn. Tricky business.
Fuzzy Dunlop
36 minutes ago
Ad–but isn’t is Congress who has to convene that bipartisan panel? Do you think they’ll do it?
glenn
36 minutes ago
True, FD. It is galling to think that little us sees what they don’t
pinkpantheroz
36 minutes ago
Yep, it seems now that when Sessions does anything, the public pushback against him as a perjurer will only be magnified. If he coontinues, he will help pull Trump down “bigly”.
AdLib36 minutes ago
FD – I totally disagre that Congress is ignoring this mess. I see massive reaction from Dems and a serious movement from a key number of GOP. Who thought Miss Lindsey Graham would be so bold?
choicelady
36 minutes ago
CL–okay, so when does his trial start? You can be sure if this were a Democrat, the process would’ve been started immediately!
glenn
35 minutes ago
I should have said the GOP congress.
Fuzzy Dunlop
35 minutes ago
How freaking pathetic is this? Jeff Sessions was sworn in as AG and this is what he tells reporters? “”I asked for their candid and honest opinion about what I should do about investigations, certain investigations. And my staff recommended recusal. They said that since I had involvement with the campaign, I should not be involved in any campaign investigation. I have studied the rules and considered their comments and evaluation. I believe those recommendations are right and just. Therefore, I have recused myself in the matters that deal with the Trump campaign.”
SueInCa
35 minutes ago
I don’t believe there will be a real investightion from either house of this congress.
Harleigh
35 minutes ago
FD – the media are diverse on this. Several key people are pushing the story. I am over the moon Dan Rather is wading into this and, outside the media, John Dean.
choicelady
35 minutes ago
cl, the Old Guard of the GOP are desperately trying to get back to their old ways. They need the cretins out of positions of power, so they can regaiin control
pinkpantheroz
35 minutes ago
That is why a special prosecutor must be assigned
SueInCa
35 minutes ago
CL – Standard propaganda move by Trump to try and reframe the issue as “If everyone who met with Russians is bad…” but thankfully, the pissed ooff media keeps pushing back, “No, this is about lying to Congress and the American people by all of you in the Trump circle about Russia.”
AdLib35 minutes ago
I guess we have, of all people, Lindsey Graham and Gramps McCain. They both dispise Trump, as well they should. Paul Ryan is a weasely little turncoat and Trump bitch.
Fuzzy Dunlop
34 minutes ago
FD – Like it, Dolt 45!
AdLib34 minutes ago
PPO – I don’t disagree the Old Guard want power, but that is actually to our benefit.
choicelady
34 minutes ago
Harleigh–I’m afraid you’re correct. If there is an investigation, it will be so “whitewashed” that Sessions will come out looking like a victim.
glenn
34 minutes ago
Glenn Cheetolini seems to have brought Rather out of retirement.
SueInCa
34 minutes ago
I do too Ad. It’s perfect!
Fuzzy Dunlop
34 minutes ago
FD–please, don’t hold back. Tell us how you really feel about ryan.
glenn
33 minutes ago
BRB
glenn
33 minutes ago
I wish there were a hell, so Ryan could roast for all eternity. Better?
Fuzzy Dunlop
33 minutes ago
I am so stealing DOLT 45!!! awesome FD
Harleigh
32 minutes ago
agree, cl. At least they sort of know how Washington is supposed to work.
pinkpantheroz
32 minutes ago
It will have to be an independent investigation with a special prosecutor assigned. Dems need to keep their voices up calling for exactly that.
SueInCa
32 minutes ago
Hashtag it, FD!
pinkpantheroz
31 minutes ago
CL – The HBCU foolks got played by the Bannon/Trump dictator’s pagentry and propaganda. Just like the widow of the dead serviceman that Trump is responsible for. Such Russian-styled manipulatioon oof the public’s emotions. But satisfyingly, this Sessions leak came out the next day and buried Trump’s propaganda.
AdLib31 minutes ago
Oh FD, don’t worry, Ryan will never make it out of Purgatory, in fact he may never make it TO purgatory
SueInCa
31 minutes ago
brb
pinkpantheroz
31 minutes ago
The malt liquor you just can’t trust!
Fuzzy Dunlop
30 minutes ago
AdLib – I think they KNEW they were walking into a hot mess, but how do you resist him if you won’t FACE him? Not a good set of options.
choicelady
30 minutes ago
Sue – Lyin’ Ryan needs to go STRAIGHT to hell. I don’t even believe in it and want on for JUST HIM.
choicelady
29 minutes ago
FD – I think you’re right, it can get a bit worse and closer to dictatorship, especially if there’s a terrorist attack, but thankfully it can only get so far. Our country has to many complex aspects and expectations to allow a full and solid dictatoorship. Not that Trump won’t try!
AdLib29 minutes ago
And don’t forget the Obama administration has laid Hansel and Gretel bits and pieces with trusted people. They are not going to be able to bury this.
SueInCa
29 minutes ago
Sue – I was over the moon to learn what PBO had done w that intelligence info!
choicelady
29 minutes ago
I was absolutely sickened by the news media’s reaction to Trump joint session with congress. They assholes still expect Trump “pivot,” to presidential mode. That is an impossibility.
Fuzzy Dunlop
29 minutes ago
My guess is we are due for a false flag incident.
Harleigh
28 minutes ago
FD, the Washington Post called them out on it
SueInCa
28 minutes ago
Sue – We all know that Sessions is a liar and the only reason he recused himself is because of the leak about him lying under oath. If he really believed that, he would have said so at the confrimation or since. Lying sack of shit.
AdLib28 minutes ago
FD – actually very few media outlets did the ‘he’s presidential’ thingy. Unfortunately Sacramento Bee was one of them. And VAN JONES????? WTF is the MATTER with him? Most, numerically, called it out for the perfidy it was.
choicelady
27 minutes ago
I agree ad, but it’s so disheartening to see so many people who are so unaware. They don’t understand that authoritarian regimes don’t happen overnight.
Fuzzy Dunlop
27 minutes ago
Washington Post said the pundits were fawning while the real journalists were doing their job
SueInCa
26 minutes ago
All – I think THE big fear is a ‘false flag’ attack on some part of the USA – and I fear it will be Sacramento. Then #45 will have an opening for declaring martial law. Terrifies me!
choicelady
26 minutes ago
Why Sacramento?
SueInCa
26 minutes ago
Capital of the hated state.
choicelady
26 minutes ago
Yeah, I guess you’re right CL. But the ones I saw the day after, just made me want have an “involuntary protien spill.”
Fuzzy Dunlop
26 minutes ago
FD – i understand, and yes, the pundits were assholes. No question.
choicelady
25 minutes ago
How can either the Senate or House be left to investigate this when the leaders of both intelligence committees have been called by Trump’s Admin and pushed to come out to say in the press that there’s nothing to see here? Unfortunately for them, just before the Sessions leak. No way, there has to be an Independent Council or Select Committee or we will use the refusal to take back the House and Senate in 2018.
AdLib25 minutes ago
Hey, when California becomes it’s own nation, will you guys accept immigrants from Ohio/Massachusetts?
Fuzzy Dunlop
25 minutes ago
LOL I just said that! JINX!!
Harleigh
25 minutes ago
AdLib =- even IF there’s an independent council or select committee, WE WILL TAKE IT BACK.
choicelady
24 minutes ago
What Harliegh? The protien spill?
Fuzzy Dunlop
24 minutes ago
Isn’t Ryan so done as a possible Pres. candidate after kissing Trump’s behind and showing no principles? And if his anti-healthcare plan is passed??? He will be as hated as Trump/
AdLib24 minutes ago
FD–just came back. Ryan is setting himself up to destroy Obamare, Social Security, and Medicare all in one fell swoop. Then he will run for president as the one who “slayed the dragons.” I agree with everyone else. There has to be a “special” place for him…hell is too good for him!
glenn
24 minutes ago
FD – I have zero interest in CalExit – it’s proposed by an expat to Russia who is VERY RW. But should we be stupid and do it, of COURSE we will accept refugees!
choicelady
24 minutes ago
False flag it is has 2 votes, me and CL, anyone else??
Harleigh
23 minutes ago
I don’t think Sac will give them the bang for their buck. SF or LA certainly would. I guess the capitol of the state would give them something but in terms of destruction SF or LA would be more powerful
SueInCa
23 minutes ago
All – if Ryan cuts basic plans, he will never EVER win any race again.
choicelady
23 minutes ago
I didn’t take it very seriously, CL. I’m just covering my chances for new citizenship!
Fuzzy Dunlop
23 minutes ago
I used to think FF but with so much info now out there, it is going to be a hard one to pull off.
SueInCa
22 minutes ago
Sue – that may well be. LA and SF are “cesspools of corruption”. But the Capitol is where Jerry is and where our laws are made, so…
choicelady
22 minutes ago
Actually, I want to stay and fight these pricks. Whatever I can do.
Fuzzy Dunlop
22 minutes ago
CL – It’s possible but with the scrutiny and hopefully Independent investigation of Trump and his cronies, a false flag attack might seem way too risky for them. I do worry that ISIS may want to hit back at Trump and gain recruits by staging an attack in the US.
AdLib22 minutes ago
FD – you’re better off in Columbus, kiddo. Unless you have $2000 a month for a 1 BR apartment.
choicelady
22 minutes ago
CL–I hope you’re correct about ryan never winning any race again. Unfortunately, we have this president now, who shouldn’t have won either!
glenn
21 minutes ago
OUCH! I pay $375 a month for a studio. Plus utilities. Not a bad deal.
Fuzzy Dunlop
21 minutes ago
How long does anyone think that Ambassador has to live
SueInCa
21 minutes ago
AdLib – I think ISIS knows the WORST thing they could do is harm us now. BEST thing is keep recruiting based on #45’s horrifically stupid remarks and actions such as Yemen.
choicelady
21 minutes ago
yemenghazi!!!
Harleigh
21 minutes ago
FD – CA has THE highest poverty rate in USA due to cost of living.
choicelady
21 minutes ago
Sue–which ambassador? The russian one?
glenn
20 minutes ago
Probably not long Sue. If he’s smart, he’ll take it on the lam!
Fuzzy Dunlop
20 minutes ago
Harleigh! THAT is GREAT – Yemenghazi!!!
choicelady
20 minutes ago
Yes, the UN guy got it last week
SueInCa
20 minutes ago
FD – CA is happy too accept any refugees froom the other 49 states when it becomes a country! Seriously, Trump and Bannon and the GOP would love for CA to leave because Repubs would gain a lock on national elections. But even though soome idiots out here are trying to get that oon the ballot, there is no right or ability for any state to leave the US.
AdLib20 minutes ago
Sessions…LOCK HIM UP! Ain’t Karma a bitch?
Fuzzy Dunlop
20 minutes ago
CL – Totally agree! We ARE taking back Congress in 2018 and the WH in 2020 no matter what!
AdLib19 minutes ago
AdLib – the proposition sponsor is a RW expat to Russia, so the “motivation” for CalExit is very suspicious.
choicelady
19 minutes ago
Oh for sure Ad. I want our Union in tact. Too many have died trying to keep it that way.
Fuzzy Dunlop
19 minutes ago
Agreed, Adlib and the calexit guy is a scammer
SueInCa
19 minutes ago
Oprah? Good president?
Fuzzy Dunlop
18 minutes ago
ha ha no, FD
SueInCa
18 minutes ago
sue -yes, he most certainly is. He and I got into it on Twitter, and I had to block him he’s so creepy.
choicelady
18 minutes ago
FD – Oprahc? No fucking way. NO celebrities are fit for that office.
choicelady
18 minutes ago
I have to chuckle when I ask that. She’s a hell of a lot smarter than Odious Maximus!
Fuzzy Dunlop
18 minutes ago
Sue – I don’t know, Russian pols (who could rat oout Putin) are dying left and right, 6-7 including UN Russian Ambassador in the last month.
AdLib18 minutes ago
He is from New York state and like you said, CL, lives in Russia. So did Carter Page
SueInCa
17 minutes ago
FD – I do NOT dispute she’s way smarter than #45 but still…no.
choicelady
17 minutes ago
That’s why I chuckle when I ask it. Trump has some celebs thinking they qualify.
Fuzzy Dunlop
17 minutes ago
FD–no Oprah. Even though the right wing would have no legs to stand on by saying she has no experience in government, she would be as bad a choice as HRC, IMO.
glenn
17 minutes ago
All those people surrounding DT are creepy with ties to Russia!
choicelady
17 minutes ago
Putin buries, he does not take out kneecaps
SueInCa
17 minutes ago
Ted Nugent is thinking of running for congress. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Fuzzy Dunlop
17 minutes ago
ol poopy pants for kongress
Harleigh
16 minutes ago
FD – what state is Nugent Crap-My-Pants planning to run in?
choicelady
16 minutes ago
oh I agree glen. The news of her thinking about it made me laugh.
Fuzzy Dunlop
16 minutes ago
Almost anyone who is in this fucked up cabal of Cheetolinis is in danger of dying
SueInCa
16 minutes ago
CL – Right again, ISIS is well aware that Trump is their #1 recruiting tool, they want to keep him in office but staging an attack would launch Trump into even greater madness against Muslims so they may really want that to happen.
AdLib16 minutes ago
FD–really? And, how can you put Ted Nugent and “thinking” in the same sentence?
glenn
16 minutes ago
Maybe Teddy boy will be disqualified after getting caught fellating Wayne La Pierre?
Fuzzy Dunlop
15 minutes ago
FD–yup, it made me laugh–with some horror, too!
glenn
15 minutes ago
Silly me.
Fuzzy Dunlop
15 minutes ago
AdLib – I don’t see ISIS doing that. They WERE on the run, but they don’t want more military bombardment, DT;s specialty, so for now anyway, they use his videos to recruit.
choicelady
15 minutes ago
FD–but really, is nugent thinking of running for congress? Where?
glenn
14 minutes ago
Michigan, I believe.
Fuzzy Dunlop
14 minutes ago
Oprah for Pres? Noprah. We can’t let the Trump corruption of our democracy be embedded. Knowledgeable pols only in the WH from now on, please.
AdLib14 minutes ago
But a FF attack is one the administration would run. Where would it come from?
SueInCa
14 minutes ago
Tunnels, under America’s Walmarts.
Fuzzy Dunlop
13 minutes ago
ISIS would not be FF unless they colluded with the trump administration
SueInCa
13 minutes ago
FD–LOL!
glenn
13 minutes ago
Funny Funny FD
SueInCa
13 minutes ago
Have you seen the people who shop at those stores?
Fuzzy Dunlop
13 minutes ago
SueInCa
13 minutes ago
yesiree
SueInCa
13 minutes ago
Watch out for those fundamentalist Canadiens!
pinkpantheroz
13 minutes ago
AdLib – the ONLY foremer celeb I’d entertain is Al Franken both from his 2 years of AMAZING policy parsing on Air America and his time in the Senate. THAT I could see. But experience matters a lot, and I have zero interest in the ‘citizen’ or ‘business’ candidate.
choicelady
12 minutes ago
FD – And Kid Rock said he might run against Nugent…but it would be the first primary election where there was no winner, just two losers.
AdLib13 minutes ago
Well, folks, love it that so many people are here tonight, but it’s time for me to go. Good night all. Nice chatting with everyone again. Have a great weekend, and hope to see you all next week!
glenn
12 minutes ago
nite glenn.
Harleigh
12 minutes ago
g’night, glenn. Great chat tonight
pinkpantheroz
12 minutes ago
Night Glenn, I sure will try
SueInCa
12 minutes ago
Sleep tight glenn. Happy dreams.
Fuzzy Dunlop
12 minutes ago
Nite, glenn – sweet dreams!
choicelady
12 minutes ago
CL – Maybe you’re right but it could be strategic for ISIS if an attack turned Trump against Americans as more of a dictator and unrest exploded. Would be a major distraction…though isn’t that the motto of the Trump admin, “A Major Distraction.”
AdLib11 minutes ago
Night glenn!
AdLib10 minutes ago
I’m going to have to go, too. My hubby is facing hip replacement surgery in the Fall and prep includes exercises and hot packs and a lot of amazing stuff to do. So I need to DO it with him. GREAT seeing everyone. Hugs to all.
choicelady
10 minutes ago
Here’s a great quote from Schopenhauer–“Truth is an indestructable diamond.”
Fuzzy Dunlop
10 minutes ago
Well, I guess I’ll call it an aftenoon as well. Great today. see you all next week, hopefully.
pinkpantheroz
10 minutes ago
Taje care CL! Great to see you here!
AdLib10 minutes ago
Good to see you, too, AdLib and EVERYONE!
choicelady
10 minutes ago
Seeya PPO! Have a great day and hi to Fergie!
AdLib10 minutes ago
cl best of luck to your hubby.
pinkpantheroz
10 minutes ago
Good seeing you again CL. Stop by more often, will ya!
Fuzzy Dunlop
10 minutes ago
Thanks Ad!
pinkpantheroz
9 minutes ago
I just looked up and I have 179 emails in my inbox. I hate to bail too, Adlib but I swear I will put you on my calendar for Friday and I hope to get writing that piece, it will be old news by the time I finish it. Night night!
SueInCa
9 minutes ago
FD – It’s a great quote, truth doesn’t die but it can be buried.
AdLib9 minutes ago
I have to go too. Night all. DON’T PANIC!
Fuzzy Dunlop
9 minutes ago
Very cool, Sue and congrats, glad to hear things are booming!!!
AdLib9 minutes ago
Not forever, Ad. It will rise to the top.
Fuzzy Dunlop
8 minutes ago
Night FD! Seeya later!!!
AdLib8 minutes ago
Thanks, I promise to come next friday
SueInCa
8 minutes ago
Yes FD, eventually it always seems to!
AdLib8 minutes ago
later PPO, nite all.
Harleigh
8 minutes ago
Well Harleigh, looks like we’re wrapping it up for the night! Have a great weekend!
“The perverted ambition of another class of men, who will either hope to aggrandize themselves by the confusions of their country, or will flatter themselves with fairer prospects of elevation from the subdivision of the empire into several partial confederacies than from its union under one government.”—Federalist 1.
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