Vox Populi, our weekly live chat begins tonight at 7:00pm PST. Hope to see you then!
AdLib 6 hours ago
Everybody must be still digesting their Thanksgiving Dinners!
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Hey PPO! Looks like some Planeteers are still having a Thanksgiving Day hangover!
AdLib 3 hours ago
You beat me to it!
AdLib 3 hours ago
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
How are things your and Fergie’s way?
AdLib 3 hours ago
Reasonable, for once. Our Prime Minister wanted to call Trump early, so got his phone number from Greg Norman!
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
So Greg Norman is now the Ambassador too Trumpland?
AdLib 3 hours ago
Hey Murph! Did you have a nice Thanksgiving?
AdLib 3 hours ago
I just thought I would pop in…exhausted. Let’s see how long I last.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Hi Murph!
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Fergie’s new cousins will be happy that the steelers won!
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Murph – Is it the tryptophan or something else?
AdLib 3 hours ago
I had 46 people for Thanksgiving dinner at my ranch house….I have a “great room” that used to be small barn…and the coop I helped to form and still help lead holds a big dinner here.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Sorry, Murph, what’s a coop?
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
We had smoked turkey, and butterball roasted with all the trimmings……and there were lost of trimmings.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Holy mackeral! 46 people??? Must have been crazy but cool…crazy cool that is.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Hope noboby had to drive home afterwards!
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Murph – Sounds like you would’ve needed half a dozen turkeys! Fortunately, you could have just chosen from Trump’s cabinet.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Hey Harleigh! You have a nice Thanksgiving?
AdLib 3 hours ago
PPO…a coop (short for cooperative) is a way for small farmers to buy wholesale, to sell as a group and to share resources. I and two others started it.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
PPO – Maybe rolled home.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Got it, Murph, thanks. we spell it co-op here
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
That’s my way to leave the T-Day table.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Any leftovers?
AdLib 3 hours ago
more like hangovers, ad
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
hi guys, t-day was cool.
Harleigh

3 hours ago
I see bully Trump is insisting that Romney groivel and apologize, or he won’t get a cabinet post. Patrhetic, the lot of ’em
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Now I know that almost all of them voted Trump and it was interesting to overhear the beginnings of doubt……especially as some of the realities are setting in (lots of these people have health insurance for the first time in their adult lives thanks to ACA and they were fooled by the GOP claims that it was ACA that was the problem and not those who blocked all the necessary, and usual, fixes). Now they are worried. Others see his closest associates as movers and shakers, elites. AND his life style is sinking in. Miro Lago. Really.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
PPO..yes it is co-op here too.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
PPO – And The House Repubs are already firing a shot across Trump’s bow. I think Trump may come under fire from Dems and Repubs as he ignores some promises and keeps others.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Hi Harley!
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Ad, maybe, but what can they do to undo the disaster? Very little, I fear. Train wreck in slow motion comes to mind
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Murph – The collapse of the Don con job seems inevitable as reality dissolves it away. They will see how they have been played for saps and I’d guess they may not be terribly happy about it.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Ad…and then what happens?
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
headless chickens will be scrambling, ‘cos they won’t have Dems or Obama to blame anymore. their negative regime now has to do positive shit, and I don’t think they’re capable of the 180.
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
PPO – Actually, Murph’s folks and others like them have a lot more power than they may realize. If they grow unhappy with their realizations of Trump’s conning them and go after Repub Senators to oppose him, Dems could prevail in blocking many Trump policies.
AdLib 3 hours ago
There only has to be 2 Repub Senators to disapprove of a Trump issue and it’s blocked for certain in the Senate.
AdLib 3 hours ago
That is, as long as Dems don’t betray their coters and party.
AdLib 3 hours ago
I have been saying little….they know where I stand…..but when I asked I tell them to call our Congressman and our two Senators and make clear what they are expecting and that they are watching them to see who they are really for.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
voters
AdLib 3 hours ago
Wow, but I wonder will they have the cojones to vote against the mob?
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Murph – It will take a little time but I can absolutely see conservative Repubs wrestling against Trump, egged on by their angry constituents. My policy is, never assume everyone in any organization are going to get along and not fight each other for power.
AdLib 3 hours ago
The real GOP Civil War may be coming.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Maybe steins recount will change the EC? LOL…. never mind.
Harleigh

3 hours ago
MID TERMS!!!!!!
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
As they say, be careful what you wish for. The Repubs wanted control over all of DC…now all that power could turn them against each other.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Harleigh – Wouldn’t that be a miracle?!
AdLib 3 hours ago
I would bet on Trump’s term being the most conflicted in memory.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Fundamentally, I regard all of this as another sign of how badly constructed our government is – the bold revolution of the constitutional generation began to melton within a decade of its ratification and we have had a series of crisis without deep remedy…..think national territorial expansion, slavery, post Civil War reconstruction, the rule of the robber barons in the gilded age, and the Great Depression created such stress on the system that it nearl collapsed.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Harleigh….Stein was and is and will be an opportunist above all.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Murph – Perhaps it is evidence that all the compromises that were made to pass The Constitution embedded huge flaws in our government’s ability to make progress?
AdLib 3 hours ago
Murph – yet for all its flaws and fumbles in the world, the USA still stands out as a great country.
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
stein is a POS
Harleigh

3 hours ago
And Ad, with that power comes absolute accountability especially with Obama leaving office on a high.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Ad….those flaws were meant to be corrected by regular Conventions…not one so far.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
I hope no one EVER pardons the Turkeys on Capital hill. quite the contrary!
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Stein is indeed an unprincipled opportunist. But she is also relatively irrelevant…unless she finances a recount that robs Trump of the Presidency! Now that would be real entertainment.
AdLib 3 hours ago
The EC was supposed to prevent a drumpf, it won’t
Harleigh

3 hours ago
The whole last year has been weird as shit
Harleigh

3 hours ago
PPO…..yes, the U.S. is a great country but our government is one that sets the stage for crisis because it is so inflexible, is based on a fiction about non-partisanship, and puts walls between the legislative and executive that makes them rivals. None of it god.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Murph – Absolutely. Trump will absolutely continue his bald faced lying and propaganda to insist everything that happens under him is wonderful and the bad things are all other peoples’ fault. But that won’t work for long.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Harleigh, something is a bit haywire if HRC got 2 million more votes, but lost the EC. Some rearrangement needs to be done.
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Ad…Stein is doing now what she always does…rob resources for the Democratic party- money, energy, time.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
PPO – This year the people wish the turkeys would pardon them.
AdLib 3 hours ago
From 4 years imprisoned in Trumpland.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Good one, Ad!
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
I doubt that a constitutional amendment to make murikkka a democracy would ever pass or get ratified.
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Ad….Last week he claimed HE got Ford to call off a plant move…..and they said NOPE! And now he making promises about Carrier.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Murph – Yep but now with such extremists embedded in our politics, it would be too dangerous to re-open the Constitution for change. The Trump wing might insist on re-instating slavery.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Harleigh….the embedded interests would block any real progress.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Ad…. or rejigging the Supreme Court
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Harleigh – As John Oliver said, “Fuck you 2016!”
AdLib 3 hours ago
Ad….I agree…the mess is at the core of the instruments of government.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
the SC is going down the tubes
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Well, I gotta go do my afternoon chores. Glad you all enjoyed the holiday. See you around!
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
later ppo
Harleigh

3 hours ago
PPO….thanks for joining us…
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Murph – I would have preferred more of a parliamentary government while Obama was President, imagine how much could have been accomplished.
AdLib 3 hours ago
bedtime for me guys. have a great weekend.
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Night Harleigh!
AdLib 3 hours ago
Murph – Yes, I think Trump’s bogus claim about the Ford “move” is what we’ll see endlessly from him. Just outright lying to elevate himself no matter how it conflicts with reality.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Ad…as you know I went to school in the UK from 11 to 16 and then became a Anglo-American academic…..I agree….Obama as Prime Minister…
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Nite Harleigh.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
But you can’t use lies to convince people they have good paying manufacturing jobs when they don’t.
AdLib 3 hours ago
ad….I think I will drag myself to bed……Ad, reality will shake Trump from the tree, but what next? Well, good night.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago
Right! Instead, Obama was stonewalled most of his presidency by a party that didn’t care how it hurt the nation. In fact, they wanted it to damage the country so they coould win the next elections.
AdLib 3 hours ago
Night pal!
AdLib 3 hours ago
Ad….my reading as well. Good night.
MurphTheSurf3

3 hours ago

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