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AdLib On October - 21 - 2016
Vox Populi, our weekly live chat on the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hope to see you then!
AdLib 3 hours ago
Already here…..working elsewhere on line but will be back at 9!
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
Hey Murph!
AdLib 2 hours ago
OH! You are actually here…in person!
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
Okay, see you then (or along the way(!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Yep, tis me!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Well, while you’re here…Trump is dead, yes?
AdLib 2 hours ago
See ya at 9. P.S. I did not push Vox at Yabberz in the last two days. I will do so for next Friday. I think we made a good impression on most.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
He gave a virtual concession speech today!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Okay, sounds good.
AdLib 2 hours ago
I have been working hospitals all day….I need to catch up.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
Hospitals?
AdLib 2 hours ago
Yes, I have taken up another job as a Health Care Advocate (a spin off of my Navigator days) and I was battling hospitalists about extended care for a client.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
That is too damn great of you, Murph!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Any success?
AdLib 2 hours ago
Thank you. I got really interested in the workings of the system and have become quite good at naming reality.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
Oh yes…I usually put them back on their heels.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
That is a pretty valuable and rare skill today!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Here is todays battle. I had to wrestle with a hospitalist today who seemed to be pushing to cut off XXX’s nutrition because he pulled out his nose feeding tube (nasogastric tube). I pointed out that for him in every other area, neurology, cardiac, hematology, oncology, pulmonology things are status quo. His current feeding problem is not an end of life issue and his advanced directive does not state that sustenance be withheld unless he is terminal. She told me that unless they can keep the nasogastic tube in place they will not be able to provide sustenance. I asked why a PEG Tube (Percutaneous endoscopic gastrostomy ) could not be implanted (like another of our guys has). She said that given his risk factors this would be inadvisable. I pointed out that he had just had neurosurgery under general anesthetic and the PEG Tube procedures require only a local and a general light sedative. She then said that we should try the nasogastic tube again tonight with better restraints and a more careful watch to keep him from pulling it out. Failing that, she said, a PEG insertion should be considered. I am going to be sure that is in his notes tomorrow. So I am going back to the hospital tomorrow morning to be sure his orders reflect this.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
I had this ready to print because it was in my log.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
Wow. So is this “hospitalist” a top level doctor? Is she the final word on things?
AdLib 2 hours ago
Hospitalist are basically Primary Care Physicians who are meant to serve as your family doctor while you are in the hospital, overseeing care, and coordinating treatment plans. What they also do (but do not admit) is provide medical reasons for pushing people out of hospitals it their homes, to nursing homes, to hospice. You can block them if you know what to say and how to say it. What I posted to you is now in three e mail boxes at the hospital in question..a major medical center with a fine rep.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
Excellent! That’s fantastic work, Murph! Can you go over their head if you need to?
AdLib 2 hours ago
The email makes it clear that I will challenge them on ethical grounds. The emails went to the chief of hospitalist practice; to the neurosurgeon and anesthesiologist who led the brain surgery team that worked on him last week (very successfully), and to chief of neurology. There are several more steps.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
Great! The idea of starving a patient because they’re having an issue with the nasogastric tube is crazy. That person is very lucky you’re there.
AdLib 2 hours ago
I represent people from my area who need to be represented. I ask that they name me in an advanced directive as a health care representative and spokesman AND appoint someone who they (and I) trust as their medical power of attorney using an instrument that was created by the Mercy Health Care Systems.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
That’s a lot of trust but they are smart to do it, having you as their rep!
AdLib 2 hours ago
What she, and a nurse were trying to do was to get the family to consider the idea “as the best course of action for the comfort of the patient.” It is an easy argument to put forward since the patient does appear to be distressed and that often flattens the familyy.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
As rep, I have no power…only the medical power of attorney holder does….but I have influence and that is the lever.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
I’m no expert in this area but an operable issue is whether they are suffering in pain. Secondarily is the quality of life, if they have no hope of recovery or consciousness.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Hey PPO!
AdLib 2 hours ago
The thing is that I also make it clear that I understand the good reasons for difficult decisions to both the family and to the doctors and nurses. Last week I had someone who was moved from ICU and the family did not want this done but it was time and the space was badly needed for others with more critical needs. The hospital was happy for my support in this.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
Murph – You can argue on behalf of the patients though which goes a long way!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Hi guys n gals. Sorry, won’t be much use today, was diagnosed with AMG macular degeneration yesterday, got an injection and am flying oon one ocular wing right now.
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Ad….this person is in pain, largely emotional and the quality of life right now is for shit….but if he begins to take nutrition that will pass….I have seen it.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
Damn, PPO! It’s got to take a lot of strength to be on here like that.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Hi PPO…AMG macular degeneration…..long term prognosis.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
Murph – It’s got to be given a chance.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Only one eye has it. DG, Ad, and Ive been toild there is long term treatment to keep it where it is now and not get worse, so I’ll be doing that
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
PPO Good.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
PPO – Not too knowledgeable about it, so glad that this treatment can halt the degeneration.
AdLib 2 hours ago
than ks, Mutph. Monthly in jections, and after tests, may go out to 6-weekly or even 2-monthly. Not vey pleaseant, but do-able.
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Ad: agree. Give nutrition a chance.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
PPO…sounds like a good care plan. With you all the way.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
Stepping out for a few minutes. Back at 9
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
PPO – It’s messed up to have to deal with these physical issues as we get older (but not old), a lot of acceptance required when you get older but of coourse the alternative isn’t desireable.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Seeya shortly, Murph!
AdLib 2 hours ago
PPO – And Fergie’s doing well today?
AdLib 2 hours ago
Ad, I’s our Anniversary today 33 years! God Love Her, she’s a mess worrying about ME! She’s doing fine herself, though.
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND FERGIE!!!
AdLib 2 hours ago
That’s fantastic!
AdLib 2 hours ago
THANK YOU!
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
BRB
pinkpantheroz

2 hours ago
Ok!
AdLib 2 hours ago
Ad…one of the comments from a Yabberz about Vox is that the chat room “feels like a nice neighborhood with the neighbors chatting over their fences. I liked that a lot.”
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
Your convo with PPO and me exemplifies that.
MurphTheSurf3

2 hours ago
Murph – That’s really cool to hear! It’s supposed to feel like a real community “neighborhood” around here and to hear that is fantastic.
AdLib 2 hours ago
Agreed. It’s what we were aiming for with The Planet, to be like a neighborhood coffee shop or bar where people can sit down and discuss what’s on their mind without being attacked or needing to be defensive. It’s the conversations that are most important for people to have, not yelling at each other or having to take cover.
AdLib an hour ago
Ad…we need to reestablish that image with a new generation of Planeteers…
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
That would be great!
AdLib an hour ago
I think that Planet/Vox and Yabberz might be a good partnership, even if informally.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
There’s a great coommunity of folks at Yabberz, very impressed with those I met here this week.
AdLib an hour ago
Hey KT!
AdLib an hour ago
Greetings KT….
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Hey Ad, Murph!
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Happy Trump Concession Day!
AdLib an hour ago
LOL!
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
AD…say more about this speech…as you know I missed the whole day in news fighting hospital dragons.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
get ready for Trump TV!
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Did you hear him getting maudlin about running for office and sounding unconvincing when he said he was going to win.
AdLib an hour ago
oh, he knows he toast. If he didn’t know it after the last debate, he surely knows it after that dinner last night in NYC. The annual Al Smith dinner.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
KT – I give it one year before he claims bankruptcy for it.
AdLib an hour ago
once again he made a complete ass of himself, and got heavily booed.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
wouldn’t surprise me Ad. Maybe Ailes will save the day for him.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
KT – He really is incredibly stupid. I think it was Bannon who had that speech written for him like that, he hates Hillary so much. And idiot Trump, trusting Bannon who has completely destroyed him. Yes, they can do a Trump TV but like Glenn Beck, it’s doomed to failure.
AdLib an hour ago
Someone said earlier today that it was Rodger Stone who wrote it. Samey same, really. RWers just don’t know, “funny.”
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
KT – Ailes has a non-compete with Fox News, he can’t helpTrump on a tv show. And I heard he’s already distanced himself from Trump’s campaign. Like that’s going to remove the loser-stink and abuser-stain from Ailes.
AdLib an hour ago
Oh that’s right, I forgot about that.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Coould have been but Bannon has seemed like the puppetmaster (after Putin) for Trump.
AdLib an hour ago
Hey PPO:

AdLib an hour ago
Trump has absolutely 0 self awareness.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Awwwww! Thanks Ad.
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Hey P!
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
KT – A dead snail has more self-awareness than Trump.
AdLib an hour ago
Hey KT Who on earth would want to advertise on Grope – er Trump TV?
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Last night I went to a neighborhood bar/tavern/saloon to watch the Al Smith coverage. Mostly red neighbors, heavily Trump. At the bar….the first 15 minutes of Trump was marked by laughter across the room….from the majority Trump crowd and the minority Clinton crowd. That happened again when Clinton spoke. But Clinton never got booed…she got laughed at but not booed. To my surprise when he turned that corner nearly everyone reacted negatively….even his supporters wondered what the hell he was doing. A good friend who is an adamant Trump supporter had this comment: “Look, the guy frustrates me too. It’s like he doesn’t know the rules about how the game is played but until he makes the rules because he owns the game he has to learn to go along to get along.”
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
TRue dat. HIllary got a few light hearted zingers in there. She nailed gouliani. The camera cut to him and Nosferatu was not pleased!n
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
PPO – People selling apocalypse survival gear? Trump steaks?
AdLib an hour ago
New movie out. Michael Moore in Trumpland! Gotta see it.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Ad, Polar Bear Fur Coats, perhaps?
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Manatee skin handbag?
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Something tells me that Trump Steaks would be very touch, chewy and Orange colored.
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
tough!
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Murph – Very interesting. I do think Trump had that all written for him, he mentioned while he was reading it, “Aw, this is corny stuff”. I think this was Bannon’s work, he sabotaged Trump just to get hatred out at Hillary.
AdLib an hour ago
Whoever wrote it, it was dripping with alt right nonsense.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
KT – Yes, she nailed him. Rudy looks like a wicked witch nowadays.
AdLib an hour ago
Nosferatu!
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Rudi’s totally lost it and gone walkabout.
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
or Max Shreck!
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
back soon. My love awakes!
pinkpantheroz

an hour ago
Right P. I think rudy is on a long, long walkabout.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Just heard on Maddow that Trump’s best joke last night, about Melania’s plagiarization…was plagiarized from a political cartoon!
AdLib an hour ago
HAHAHAHAHAAAAA! Yeah I saw that too. How TRumpish!
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Eric Trump sent out an e mail tonight to donors that lays out the first 100 days of the Trump admin. NO mention of the Wall, of Immigration, of Muslims…..not a word.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Trump’s con man Murph. His supporters just got took!
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Trump Chumps.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Murph – Did Mexico pay for the email?
AdLib an hour ago
Ad…the bill is in the e-mail.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Murph – Did the email include the prisoon term that Trump will dictate for Hillary?
AdLib an hour ago
I wonder if Kellyann Conway is going to get paid.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Ad….Hillary? Hillary who? Not a word.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Kellyanne looks beaten down.
AdLib an hour ago
She should. Lying really takes it out of a person!
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Ad…Kellyanne deserves it…she was well paid to prostitute her integrity.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
she’s a long time Clinton hater too.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
I don’t get all the compliments for Conway. She is an obvious propagandist, dishonest and devious. And ineffective!
AdLib an hour ago
The MSM, smooching Trump’s butt, by proxy!
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
KT – yes, Trump built his post-nomination campaign with famous Clinton haters.
AdLib an hour ago
KT – They did want so desperately to even out the polls and say nice things about the Trump campaign.
AdLib an hour ago
Sure, they’re weak attempts to legitimize a monster. Before they realized just what a monster Trump really is.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
KT – More like, before they had no choice but to not cheer him on.
AdLib an hour ago
doing their corporate masters’ bidding.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
KT – They’ve admitted, the MSM, that Trump was good for business.
AdLib an hour ago
That’s pretty amazing.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
“Donald Trump’s candidacy might not be making America great, CBS Chairman Les Moonves said Monday, but it’s great for his company.”
AdLib an hour ago
what a traitor.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
America for sale folks. Get it right here. America for sale! (slightly used)
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
I did like HIllary’s joke about the Statue of Liberty. Trump sees her as a 4! LOL!
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
KT – It’s the “killing the golden goose” greed of corporate America. “But Les, if he wins, we could get into a nuclear war that destroys the country and oour business!” “Hey, we;ll still have a great quarter!”
AdLib an hour ago
In a nation where most do not read anything serious about politics, economy, social policy, or philosophy…the media are grabbing for audiences any way they can…..to keep the doors open in many cases.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Really! How incredibly blind.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
KT – That was me joking aboout Les.
AdLib an hour ago
Infotainment!
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
That’s what I meant. Moonves is blind, not you!
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Murph – The election and the outrages of Trump were just ratings drivers the MSM jumped on and tried to keep squeezing out. They are the definition of sociopathy.
AdLib an hour ago
The love of money is the root of all evil!
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Ad Lib…the fate of small newspapers, is becoming the fate of larger and larger ones….the same with serious talk radio like Air America……and with news magazines……how to keep one’s head above water.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Let’s think about the good stuff lying ahead though. President Clinton, a Dem Senate, a moderate to liberal SCOTUS and a weakened Repub control of The House.
AdLib an hour ago
Ad…if the Dem electorate shows up…..I will not assume.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
PPO – Enjoying Lehrer, thanks!
AdLib an hour ago
We got the senate for sure, I believe.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Murph – The irony is that the novelty of an honest news reporting paper would be a great selling point to the public.
AdLib an hour ago
it really would, but the big boys might try pretty hard to wreck it, or not let it get a good start.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Ad…is there enough public interested in that kind of news to keep it afloat?
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
Murph – I do think it’s not great to get overconfident and GOTV is critical but I see Dems becoming more energized and most Repubs growing discouraged (except the Trump drones).
AdLib an hour ago
you know minorities are not going to stay home. Plus, there is early voting.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
I think turn out may be phenomenal this year.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
KT – If Hillary wins by the kind of landslide that she may, I think she’ll get a honeymoon period with Congress that Obama never got. Obama did great in 2008 but it wasn’t a landslide.
AdLib an hour ago
Murph – Yes, I think there’s just as much “sexiness” to a story about a Trump outrage and how false it is as a story that just touts the outrage.
AdLib an hour ago
That’s what I’m hoping for. I heard the GOP is now thinking about confirming Garland to the SC.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
KT – Heard that too and especially if Dems win the Senate, I’ll bet Repubs stampede to confirm him.
AdLib an hour ago
I think so many people are tired of the 24/7 cable news nonsense. I think they hurt themselves with all the Trump worship.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
I bet they do too. He’s not a liberal.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
We still have 17 days to go but if things stay pretty much as they are, to have a pro-citizen, anti-Citizens United SCOTUS will be so damn amazing!
AdLib an hour ago
Ad …. I agree about the GOTV efforts – but we have to push to get the most out of this including down ballot. Here in Mo. I am pushing for Koster and Kander. In Ill for Duckworth.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
CU is one of HIllary’s top priorities, so she says.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
Ad…..you are energized by the details and a desire for integrity in fact finding….too few share your interest.
MurphTheSurf3

an hour ago
I don’t believe that Murph. I see a lot of complaints about our MSM these days. More than ever.
KillgoreTrout

an hour ago
KT – Like any addiction, the more you keep using Trump, the less of a high people got from it and they needed something stronger. Then after a while, where we are now, they realize they were just feeling awful withdrawls and chasing highs that wouldn’t last. Half this country needs to go to AA for Trump Withdrawal.
AdLib an hour ago
or the hospital for Trump poisoning. OD!
KillgoreTrout

44 minutes ago
trump has poisoned this election.
KillgoreTrout

44 minutes ago
Murph – It;s a big thing to get down ballot Dems a victory! The Senate, House and Governorships matter very much!
AdLib 44 minutes ago
ad….the honeymoon….I don’t think Hillary is going to be as willing to play nice with the GOP as Obama was. I think she will be very tough and give them a narrow time period to get on board or face her efforts to dump them out the door. To do to them in her midterm what they did to Obama in his.
MurphTheSurf3

43 minutes ago
KT – Well, with a moderate to liberal SCOTUS, she should help shepherd a case before them to overturn CU.
AdLib 43 minutes ago
obama was pretty naive his first year. Hillary is anything but naive.
KillgoreTrout

43 minutes ago
KT…there may be complaints about the MSM but my point is that too few are interested in serious reporting to make it profitable.
MurphTheSurf3

42 minutes ago
Murph – Polls do show that most voters do get that Trump is toxic and dangerous though. In this election, that will do the job.
AdLib 42 minutes ago
Maybe profit won’t be as big a motivator. That would be a change.
KillgoreTrout

42 minutes ago
I know that left wing radio doesn’t have a big audience. Maybe TV would be better.
KillgoreTrout

41 minutes ago
Murph – I’ve heard that proposition, I think she’ll start off conciliatory then get tougher as time goes by. My big complaint about Obama is that in 2009, he put his commitment to bipartisanship ahead of getting done what needed to get done. He had the best of intentions but what makes the impact and helps create bipartisanship is getting things done well and making the Repubs take heat for not helping. Obama learned this after his first year or so.
AdLib 40 minutes ago
I think Obama’s great respect for the constitution made him seek bipartisanship longer than was expedient.
KillgoreTrout

38 minutes ago
Ad….I think here, “let’s be friends, or at least allies” period will be very short…she will not squander her first 100 days…..she has learned what you have about the Obama early days.
MurphTheSurf3

38 minutes ago
Murph – I don’t agree. There are healthy markets and restaurants that are very successful but McDonalds still does great business. The MSM has stooped to the point of offering dessert for dinner all day long and while many are tempted into it, I think they would happily change the channel to a majory news channel that was truly objective. Problem is, if it doesn’t feel big and mainstream (the problem Al Jazeera had), they’ll opt for McDonalds TV.
AdLib 37 minutes ago
Ad…..the viewing, listening, reading habits of the American public are pretty well documented and “serious” is not high on the list of defining characteristics.
MurphTheSurf3

35 minutes ago
speculation time. Who would Trump TV hire for anchors?
KillgoreTrout

35 minutes ago
Murph – What will be interesting is to see what kind of House and Speaker she’s dealing with. A majority of Repubs say they like Trump over Ryab, like 50% to 33%. Ryan will have no mandate from either side. I think the House will be a zoo, hard to get anything done at all. Hillary may have to focus on SCOTUS and judgeships while that mess scrambles on.
AdLib 35 minutes ago
Murph – True but also high on many Americans’ lists is how messed up the MSM is. I know many may say that while preferring to stay in their political bubble for news but right now, there is no major, independent news channel to turn to. The big corps have swallowed them all up.
AdLib 33 minutes ago
MSNBC only has three good hours a day.
KillgoreTrout

32 minutes ago
quick question. Does anyone know how the house and senate races are going/
pinkpantheroz

32 minutes ago
KT – “Welcome to Trump TV. We’re your hosts, Chris Christie, Scott Baio and this old lady over here is Rudy Giuliani.”
AdLib 32 minutes ago
Ad….supports my vision of a House led by a Ryan who elected with Dem support to begin the process in the GOP in getting their party back under control. Isolate the 50 or so as a small minority caucus.
MurphTheSurf3

32 minutes ago
LOL! Christie may have to do his show from prison.
KillgoreTrout

31 minutes ago
KT – But MSNBC counters that by running RW jerks and “pundits” like Hugh “BS” Hewitt all day long even in thoose 3 hours. MSNBC sucks.
AdLib 31 minutes ago
Ad….I think that most of the public who are angry with the MSM have no idea why and if given an alternative with integrity would be bored by it…aka Al Jazeera.
MurphTheSurf3

30 minutes ago
I still like Hayes, Maddow and O’Donnel.
KillgoreTrout

30 minutes ago
Well, my friends. Calling it a night..long, long day and another one tomorrow. Ta!
MurphTheSurf3

30 minutes ago
Murph, I reckon that the only decent news now and which I watch,is the CBS with Charlie, Nolrah and Gayle
pinkpantheroz

30 minutes ago
Later Murph.
KillgoreTrout

30 minutes ago
see ya murph
pinkpantheroz

29 minutes ago
Murph – I wouldn’t say it’s impossible but Ryan is an utter coward, I can’t imagine him ever standing up to his party like that. He wouldn’t even condemn Trump for saying he wouldn’t accept the election results. Just don’t see Ryan doing anything but pandering to the RW. After all, he does want to run for Pres and no one can win that as a Hillary collaborator.
AdLib 28 minutes ago
Like Seth Myers said about Ryan, when he has to be somewher, they carry him is a bucket, because he has no spine.
KillgoreTrout

28 minutes ago
Well, gotta go and ‘celebrate’ my Anniversary. We’ve had to postpone for a few days until my eye settles down. Cheers and thanks to all
pinkpantheroz

27 minutes ago
In a bucket.
KillgoreTrout

27 minutes ago
Al Jazeera never had a chance to succeed in the US, Americans didn’t like the foreign name and wouldn’t trust it for news. Prejudice is real.
AdLib 27 minutes ago
Take it easy P, say hi to Fergie.
KillgoreTrout

27 minutes ago
Happy anniversary to you and Fergie!
AdLib 27 minutes ago
ta, KT and will do
pinkpantheroz

27 minutes ago
cheers all
pinkpantheroz

27 minutes ago
KT – Agreed! Murph thinks Ryan might buck his party and work with the Dems in Congress and Hillary to accomplish things and look good to the general population. That would be smart to do on one hand but he could never win the GOP nom if he did. He’s too self-serving and weak, he won’t help Hillary.
AdLib 25 minutes ago
I agree. Ryan has no stones.
KillgoreTrout

25 minutes ago
The Repub base already sees Ryan as a traitor, I think he’d have a very hard time winning a primary now anyway.
AdLib 25 minutes ago
But if he was seen working with House Dems and Hillary? No way!
AdLib 24 minutes ago
I think so to, especially considering he would not denounce Trump, but just gave a show of it.
KillgoreTrout

24 minutes ago
Wouldn’t it be too cool if Dems took The House too? I know it’s unlikely but with Dems controlling Congress and Hillary in the WH, so much could get done (as long as filibusters are muzzled).
AdLib 23 minutes ago
Too much to hope for Ad. But man, we’d see a better and stronger nation.
KillgoreTrout

23 minutes ago
Ryan is an idiot, he has damaged himself with both Repubs and Dems while trying to protect himself with both. I think his political future is dead now, outside of staying in the House.
AdLib 22 minutes ago
I think between college educated men and women, and minorities, the alt right crowd will slowly be pushed aside and they will fade away.
KillgoreTrout

21 minutes ago
The good thing about the census and re-districting is that it happens in 2020, a Presidential election year when Dems turn out. If we could reverse just enough of the gerrymandering (or have the new SCOTUS restrict it), Dems could finally get over that hump and have a fair chance at winning The House in the future.
AdLib 21 minutes ago
those republicans that pandered to them will fade away also.
KillgoreTrout

21 minutes ago
KT – They’re dying off day by day. Older white rural people in red states that don’t support Obamacare. Just a matter of time. Hey, if TX can be a 3 point race…imagine the future Dems could have!
AdLib 20 minutes ago
Latinos will have their revenge on the TrumpChumps!
AdLib 19 minutes ago
it’s beginning to look good. I told my daughter last week, that I hold a ray of hope for America. Her friends are mostly scared shitless of Trump!
KillgoreTrout

18 minutes ago
It does look like AZ may go to Hillary, that state could be changed long term. And NC, VA, the alignment keeps changing to increase the Dems reach and reduce Repubs. The future will not be kind to Repubs or TrumpChumps.
AdLib 18 minutes ago
KT – And consider that Trump has started a civil war in the GOP, They could be torn to pieces by the next election!
AdLib 17 minutes ago
I don’t believe it will either. Trump really exposed the GOP…BIGLY!
KillgoreTrout

17 minutes ago
KT – The GOP has been reduced to preventing people from voting and gerrymandering to win. Desperation as their popularity continues to shrivel. Soon, they will be too weak for any tricks too help them.
AdLib 16 minutes ago
i wold love to see the GOP disintegrate completely. split in to two parties?
KillgoreTrout

15 minutes ago
We need a landslide against the GOP after all that’s gone on the last 8 years…let alone the 8 years of Bush. Burn GOP Burn.
AdLib 15 minutes ago
The Crazicans and Not so Crazicans?
KillgoreTrout

15 minutes ago
Bannon would like to carve off the TrumpChumps into another party…or take over the GOP but Trump’s too lazy to want to run a movement. I think he’d be content with Trump TV.
AdLib 14 minutes ago
The GOP needs to be utterly humiliated!
KillgoreTrout

14 minutes ago
Trump doesn’t want to work at anything but making Trump richer.
KillgoreTrout

14 minutes ago
Yes and I think that is so possible right now. And Assange needs too be throown in prison!
AdLib 13 minutes ago
oh I can’t stand that puke. I guess his internet was cut off. I love it.
KillgoreTrout

13 minutes ago
But Trump can’t help but going bankrupt in everything he does (including run for Pres). That’s why I think Trump TV would never last.
AdLib 13 minutes ago
If he can screw up a Casino, he can screw up anything.
KillgoreTrout

12 minutes ago
Well, I think I’m going to call it a night. Have a great weekend Ad!
KillgoreTrout

11 minutes ago
KT – Yes but he has phone access and has someone helping him (Putin) with continuing to leak documents. Including Hillary’s cell phone number? What an asshole, that’s secret information the public is entitled to? He’s such a fraud. And hoping after the election, Obama hammers Russia with cyberattacks.
AdLib 11 minutes ago
Ok, night KT! See you for the music thread!
AdLib 11 minutes ago
See ya there.
KillgoreTrout

11 minutes ago
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My motto is, "It is better to have blogged and lost hours of your day, than never to have blogged at all."

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