Vox Populi, our live weekly chat about the week’s events (and there has been a lot of them!), begins at 7:00pm tonight. Hope to see you then!
AdLib 5 days ago
Que pasa, Ad?
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
Hey glenn!
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
Good evening, Ad, KT, How are you?
glenn

5 days ago
B!
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
Hey Beatlex–are the people in Canada just shaking their heads at our stupid republicans?
glenn

5 days ago
I’m doing well, and you?
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
Doing well, also.
glenn

5 days ago
glad to hear it.
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
Hey all!
AdLib 5 days ago
Trump is melting!
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
AdLib 5 days ago
C’mon.The media(and the rest of us sentient beings) knew that Trump is a pig.Surely this could have come out earlier?
Beatlex

5 days ago
So what’s your favorite excuse from the trump supporters? Mine is that Hillary should be ahead by more than 40% because she is the first woman candidate for president.
glenn

5 days ago
yeah I posted that in Time Out! Isn’t that a great cover?
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
Total meltdown! Now the Jews, International Banking, Paul Ryan, The NY Times and flouride are all in a conspiracy to deny Trump the presidency!
AdLib 5 days ago
gotta protect those precious bodily fluids, Ad!
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
Is this last debate going to a real circus or what? How crazy is Trump going to get by election day?
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
AdLib 5 days ago
That is the best cover! I also liked the one from a publication in England that shows trump’s profile as the elephant’s ass.
glenn

5 days ago
Ad–I think the Mexicans were also part of that conspiracy.
glenn

5 days ago
Yep, that’s Trump alright. He said he was going “nuclear.”
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
Well…now that he’s “unshackled”.
glenn

5 days ago
Trump knows he’s toast. He’s just keeping his base riled up so they’ll watch his new network.
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
Django Trump!
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
KT–think trump will actually attend the last debate? He did call the debate commission all kinds of names, and say he was “done”.
glenn

5 days ago
Hey Harleigh
glenn

5 days ago
Did he? I hadn’t heard that.
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
This last debate is going to be insane! Trump “unshackled”…meaning, on a maniacal rampage of paranoia and apocolyptic conspiracy theories. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him throw his glass of water at Hillary and stomp off the stage yelling, “9/11 was an inside job!”
AdLib 5 days ago
Hey Harleigh!
AdLib 5 days ago
HIllary better wear a kevlar pantsuit.
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
hey gang…. did Pence ever come up with his bigly bullshit that he promised this morning??
Harleigh

5 days ago
sup, Harleigh?
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
Ad–so you think he will actually attend it? Who do you think he’ll put in the audience this time?
glenn

5 days ago
KT–good one!
glenn

5 days ago
same ol KT
Harleigh

5 days ago
Harleigh–don’t think so; haven’t seen anything.
glenn

5 days ago
Same here. doing well. Enjoying the disintegration of the GOP!
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
Trump will absolutely attend the last debate and use it as a promotional platform to launch his Bannon/Ailes nazi-esque media venture…by frothing at the mouth and howling of victimhood from conspiracies.
AdLib 5 days ago
Hey PPO!
AdLib 5 days ago
Trump has studied his Adolph well.
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
Harleigh – What did Pence promise?
AdLib 5 days ago
Ad–Not sure if I want to watch it live or not. Don’t know if my tv would survive it!
glenn

5 days ago
Good afternoon and Grope!
pinkpantheroz

5 days ago
Hey PPO–Fergie still doing better?
glenn

5 days ago
Hey P? Grabbed any lately?
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
Yes PPO, what’s the latest on Fergie?
AdLib 5 days ago
Hi, KT. Yes, saw the doc yesterday and she’s doing fine. Off almost all the pain medication ( dammit!).
pinkpantheroz

5 days ago
Did you see that it’s a statistical tie in…TEXAS! Trump only has a 4% lead, the margin of error!
AdLib 5 days ago
That’s great P!
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
I’m not sure he was specific it was on one of the morning shows….
Harleigh

5 days ago
PPO–Yea! So good to hear!
glenn

5 days ago
Good news, PPO!
AdLib 5 days ago
thanks glenn, ad.
pinkpantheroz

5 days ago
just catching up on the latest insanity
pinkpantheroz

5 days ago
Ad–If Hillary wins TX, it’s all over! She’s also ahead in FL, I think.
glenn

5 days ago
Hillary has some big guns on her side, campaigning for her. Trump has pea shooters.
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
Does anyone here think that something could change in the next few weeks to tilt the election back towards Trump? Anything?
AdLib 5 days ago
glenn – Yes, she’s up by 4% in FL…with a smaller margin of error so she’s still ahead if that’s applied.
AdLib 5 days ago
If there is, I have no idea what that would be. I think more women will come forward, just like they did for Cosby.
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
Ad–pence promised to show “evidence to refute trump accusers.”
glenn

5 days ago
True glenn, I don’t expect TX to go to Hillary in the end…but UT could!
AdLib 5 days ago
Ad–more women accuse Bill of assault?
glenn

5 days ago
who is this pommy bastard trying to smear the lady on the airplane? Nutzo de Luxe!
pinkpantheroz

5 days ago
KT – I hear Bill Cosby came out to support Trump and said, “I feel ya, brother.”
AdLib 5 days ago
TRump seems to be getting away with his excuses, among his female supporters, but if even more women come forward, he’s completely finished, if he isn’t already.
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
bros for hos!
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
glenn – Pence’s evidence being a printout of Trump’s denial?
AdLib 5 days ago
KT, those female supporters must be the masochistiic types who marry condemned prisoners.
pinkpantheroz

5 days ago
brb
pinkpantheroz

5 days ago
Pretty damned close P. They actually believe these women are just part of a conspiracy by Hillary, to “steal the election.” God they’re stupid.
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
KT–trump is only getting away with his excuses among his die-hard supporters. They have already admitted several times on camera to different shows, among them The Daily Show, that there’s NOTHING that trump could do that would stop them from voting for trump. Independents and sane republicans (if there are any left), though, will not vote for trump. They may not vote for Hillary, but they definitely won’t vote for trump.
glenn

5 days ago
PPO – The Ailes/Bannon game is to flood the media with loons denying all the charges and just muck it all up in confusion. Ain’t goonna work when they have such maniacs as their “proof”. I mean, who would leave their daughter alone with Trump? I saw even Trump supporters hesitate about that!
AdLib 5 days ago
So….what date do we put on the death certificate of the GOP? LOL! What a bunch of maroons! They could have stopped him,but they are cowards
Beatlex

5 days ago
This groping thing is going to have more accusers than Ailes had at faux over Gretchen carlson and that was over 20
Harleigh

5 days ago
exactly B! They’ve chained themselves to a dead hooker, and the body is really starting to stink!
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
Ad–don’t know what the “evidence” is; as far as I know he hasn’t produced it yet. But, yes, he did say that he believed trump when he says he didn’t commit assault, so there’s that “evidence” too.
glenn

5 days ago
LOL! Good one KT!
Beatlex

5 days ago
Beatlex–to make it official, I think the date on the death certificate should be Nov. 9, 2016, when trump loses BIGLY!
glenn

5 days ago
dead skunk in the middle of the road… dead skunk…. I think it was by arlo guthrie.
Harleigh

5 days ago
Harleigh – the Hubba hubba song!
pinkpantheroz

5 days ago
smear some jelly on Trump, he’s toast!
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
KT–orange marmalade would do nicely, I think!
glenn

5 days ago
KT – I think Trump is permanently branded with his misogyny and even his defenses, like claiming the woman on the plane wasn’t attractive enoough to molest, comes across as a confession. Trump is toxic now for women, noothing could make them come over to him…they’d be too afraid of him groping them if they got close enough to support him!
AdLib 5 days ago
Perfect!
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
OZ,what is the skuttle butt about this election down under?
Beatlex

5 days ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhKGTRtgstk
pinkpantheroz

5 days ago
USA = fuckin nutz! LOL
Harleigh

5 days ago
oh for sure. His implication was that if she were better looking, he’d have no problem with molesting her. He’s such an idiot.
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
brb
Harleigh

5 days ago
Hareigh, like the late great George Carlin once said, “When you’re born, you’re given a ticket to the freak show. When you’re born in America, you get a front row seat.”
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
glenn – I agree, only the mindless Trump zombies will buy his BS, they gobble up all his BS so excitedly and desperately, it’s a little scary. Shows that we’re never that far away from having a dictatorship in the US…but fortunately, not ripe for one.
AdLib 5 days ago
Check out the Australian ABC’s weekly election show ‘Planet America. Hilarious and incisive views

http://www.abc.net.au/news/programs/planet-america/

Planet America – ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Australia’s most trusted source of local, national and world news. Comprehensive, independent, in-depth analysis, the latest business, sport, weather and more.

pinkpantheroz

5 days ago
Ad–trump also has said, after stalking Hillary on the debate stage, that he wasn’t “impressed”, meaning with her ass, I guess. So, I guess if he had been “impressed”, he would have groped her on stage?
glenn

5 days ago
Bubble Boy Trump.He has been a pig and diddler his whole adult life.Alas,he has wilted under the glaring hot light of a presidential run
Beatlex

5 days ago
Beatlex – O actually can’t wait until after the election, the GOP will be in a massive civil war, clawing at each other. Get the popcorn ready for that spectacle.
AdLib 5 days ago
How much is the Trump brand worth now, I wonder?
pinkpantheroz

5 days ago
Poor widdle trumplethinskin. That thin skin can’t stand bright lights!
glenn

5 days ago
I hear they had to greatly reduce rates at his new hotel.
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
glenn!
pinkpantheroz

5 days ago
TRump’s image doesn’t show up in mirrors!
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
KT – And Carlin might add, “And that front seat now? It’s in the gutter with a gold Trump sign above it.”
AdLib 5 days ago
“Trumplethinskin” LOL Glenn!
Beatlex

5 days ago
KT–was just going to tell PPO the same thing. That’s the same hotel he used for the “infomercial” with saying President Obama is a citizen, period.
glenn

5 days ago
That is good!
AdLib 5 days ago
KT, thanks for the reminder – must get some garlic for the weekend!
pinkpantheroz

5 days ago
And some sharpened wooden stakes. Hey, Trump Stakes!
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
Ooooooh! Good ones
pinkpantheroz

5 days ago
Beatlex–thanks. Wish I had come up with it; I saw it on another site, and “borrowed” it.
glenn

5 days ago
We need to GOTV but consider if Hillary wins and Dems have a Senate majority…and with Reid gone, they get rid of the filibuster for Supreme Court! Imagine getting a legit Liberal filling Scalia’s seat (after having it dry cleaned for evil).
AdLib 5 days ago
I have been watching a lot of Nature shows lately.I can only take so much presidential run news at a time.It is white noise to me at this point
Beatlex

5 days ago
And if Trump continues to implode…could Dems win back the Hoouse because depressed Repubs stay home?
AdLib 5 days ago
The president and First Lay are killin it in Ohio! They really whittle Trump down to a tiny nub, which he is.
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
When trump said he wouldn’t want to be in a foxhole with ryan and mccain, Seth Myers said no one would want to be in a foxhole with trump because it would have “TRUMP” in gold letters above it! Priceless!
glenn

5 days ago
Maybe not a majority, but definitely a few more seats.
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
Myers is underrated I think. He’s been killing Trump now for weeks.
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
glenn, of course someone else would have dug it, but he would take the credit and it’d be the best foxhole ever
pinkpantheroz

5 days ago
So true, KT! Pres. Obama and Michelle have both been incredible in the past couple of days. Michelle’s speech on Trump’s misogyny? Possibly the best speech of the political season! She should run in 8 years!
AdLib 5 days ago
she might!
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
KT–I agree. His “Closer Look” segments are great!
glenn

5 days ago
glenn – Isn’t “fox hole” the network that Sean Hannity’s on?
AdLib 5 days ago
Sean Hannity is a FOX hole.
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
KR, Ad, imagine TWO Presidencies back to back with women POTI.
pinkpantheroz

5 days ago
Sorry, KT
pinkpantheroz

5 days ago
Good one, KT!
AdLib 5 days ago
PPO–Yup. As President Obama said in his speech, someone else builds it, trump slaps his name on it, and takes credit.
glenn

5 days ago
Meanwhile,back at the ranch,news of Hillary’s e-mails is lost in the blizzard of the Trump dump
Beatlex

5 days ago
beatlex, that’s the right place for a non-controversy.
pinkpantheroz

5 days ago
Ad–someone said, talking about Michelle, “FLOTUS for POTUS”. Then I got to thinking that’s exactly what we have now.
glenn

5 days ago
Hillary will be really well rested for the last debate. Trump’s going to look like Bill the Cat! Aaaaackkkk!
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
PPO – And 12 years of Dems with a Dem Congress so real change could happen! That’s been the problem, Americans are so ADD and fickle, if they just stuck to a course for a while, things could get done. Giving Repubs Congress in 2010 just screwed the whole country and blocked any big changes. Americans can be very self-defeating when they vote emotionally.
AdLib 5 days ago
Beatlex–another reason those emails aren’t making the news is that there’s nothing in them. Not newsworthy, especially with all of the trumplethinskin’s newest and latest.
glenn

5 days ago
Er, Donald, how’s that ‘trottin’ out Bills naughtiness’ doin’?
pinkpantheroz

5 days ago
I had a great idea about how to confuse the TRump poll watchers. Have everybody wear trump shirts and Make America great Again, ball caps!
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
Beatlex, indeed and can I say that the MSM trying to portray the wikileaks crap as harmful to Hillary is total BS. There is nothing in them that harms her unless hearing her say what we all know is the way DC does business is a horrible outrage.
AdLib 5 days ago
Really P. That was the dumbest possible thing Trump could have done. What a sleaze merchant.
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
Good idea, KT. And misspell it TROMP and make america GRATE again
pinkpantheroz

5 days ago
PPO–A lot of news anchors are going after the trump spokespersons who insist that the women accusing trump are lying, but the ones accusing Clinton are telling the truth. Double standard hypocrisy much? Plus Juanita Broddrick, the one who accused him of rape, recanted that story in a sworn deposition. Now that the trump campaign has paid her, it’s rape again.
glenn

5 days ago
Exactly glenn, that’s what we have now and as much as Michelle dislikes politics, she would be unbeatable as a candidate. The first black woman President! And a briliant, charismatic, genuine humanitarian at that!
AdLib 5 days ago
I don’t trust wikileaks one bit. Assange is a fugitve accused rapist, under the wing of Vladimir Putin. Yeah, that’s a guy I’m going to believe! NOT!
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
“Grate American Nerves Again!”
AdLib 5 days ago
KT–the trump poll watchers are never going to show up at those “certain” polling places. After all, according to trump, they’re all “disasters” and “hell holes”.
glenn

5 days ago
The historians will be talking about this one for a long time.A study of how the R’s morphed into the whigs(I hope)
Beatlex

5 days ago
oh I think some are stupid enough to try it.
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
I think Assange is Trump’s love child. Check out his likeness to Uday and Qusay!
pinkpantheroz

5 days ago
they’re all IN “disasters” and “hell holes.”
glenn

5 days ago
KT – Consider Trump’s supporters. Putin, Wikileaks, David Duke, neo-nazis, racists and ISIS. They all want him to win! How can that not be too outrageous for any indie voters?
AdLib 5 days ago
The party of Lincoln is now the party of Ron Jeremy!
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
I think anybody undecided at this point is a frickin moron.
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
KT-ROTFLMFAo!!
Beatlex

5 days ago
Running out of steam here, so I’m going to go now. Nice chatting with you all. Take care, and I’ll see you in two weeks. Won’t be here next week.
glenn

5 days ago
cheers, g. stay safe.
pinkpantheroz

5 days ago
bYE GLENN!
Beatlex

5 days ago
Soo what do folks here think will happen after Trump loses? Will there be angry and/or violent protests? In DC? Any loons deciding to start an armed revolution? Or are they all armchair revolutionaries who will be too cowardly to come oout?
AdLib 5 days ago
Take care glenn. Don’t get groped!
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
Bye glenn!
AdLib 5 days ago
Now, having spread panic among the mob, I’ll wend my way to the supermarket for the vittles. See you all in a few days.
pinkpantheroz

5 days ago
KT – The GOP is also the party of Cosby.
AdLib 5 days ago
There may be a violent incident or two, but they’ll be suppressed so fast, their heads will spin. I just hope there aren’t any Tim McVeighs among them.
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
See you for the debate, PPO!
AdLib 5 days ago
They are now!
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
I’ll be there, ad! Byeeee
pinkpantheroz

5 days ago
Bye Oz
Beatlex

5 days ago
Take care P. Tell Fergie we said hey!
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
I’d be pleased to see a batch of Trump revolutionaries swept up and imprisoned after the election. All those actual cowards boasting how they’ll join a revolt if Hillary is elected, I wish they woould but they won’t.
AdLib 5 days ago
I’ll just be glad to not have to see Trump’s stupid face all the time.
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
I wouldn’t be surprised if Homeland Security and the FBI are watching some of these “Alphas.” They know exactly how to deal with “Alphas.”
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
KT – I am so overdosed on Trump and his moronic yelling of moronic lies, I too can’t wait for election day to come!
AdLib 5 days ago
We’ll hear about him probably for a business week after he gets creamed at the polls, but hopefully he’ll be old news after that.
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
Gee, what will the MSM do without their favorite meal ticket?
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
KT – I think the Feds would be very prepared to take down these Bundy types very quickly if they cropped up as threats after the election. We do have to keep in mind that these mostly-rural idjits will still be running around after the election.
AdLib 5 days ago
oh for sure. They’re not going away. They’re mad as hell, and after their leader losses, they’ll be apoplectic.
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
KT – Well first there will be the GOP nuking itself, then the MSM will surely turn on Hillary once she’s President and elevate the paranoid conspiracy theories of the RW nutjobs. There’s always more conflict to come…but without Trump as a threat, it won’t have the value they think it does now.
AdLib 5 days ago
KT – I don’t know what the solution is fro dealing with such emotional, ignorant and hateful people. Any suggestions?
AdLib 5 days ago
they’ll slither back into near obscurity, where they came from. Most of them are cowards or too old and fat to cause much trouble.
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
my first thought was “education,” but these yahoos think that is liberal/socialist programming.
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
My first impulse is too make them want to jump off cliffs by Hillary getting Progressive programs widely passed…until they start seeing their lives improve.
AdLib 5 days ago
That’s what I’m hoping for too. I know a few conservatives that hated Obama, until they needed health care.
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
KT – Right, they’re way past education now. They don’t believe in facts, science oor anything provable. All they believe in are their defective emotions.
AdLib 5 days ago
And they’re so cloistered in their bubbles, they only listen to Fox, Rush and Info Wars. No way to break through and get them exposed to reality.
AdLib 5 days ago
Maybe when the political war in the GOP weeds out the crazies, that too will help.
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
KT – Do you think the Trump loons will split from the GOP if it tries to take the reins back?
AdLib 5 days ago
See you another time guys,soldier on,it will be over soon! LOL! Or will it?
Beatlex

5 days ago
Maybe. bUt they’ll have no real organization and will deteriorate.
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
Seeya Beatlex! Take care!
AdLib 5 days ago
Later B!
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
KT – That would be a dream come true, if the GOP cleaved in two and couldn’t win national elections anymore. Handing Dems the keys to the countries for a long while and getting real things done.
AdLib 5 days ago
Well, I think I’m out too. The Fearless Vampire KIllers is on TCM. Whcky movie!
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
one can hope! I know it’s “audacious,” but hey, that’s us.
KillgoreTrout

5 days ago
Okay pal! You are a film afficianado! Very impressed!
AdLib 5 days ago
Saw that last year again!
AdLib 5 days ago
Well, night all! Thanks for a great chat and see you on Wednesday for a live chat during the last Presidential debate!
AdLib 5 days ago
No one here?
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
Hey Murph! Ended a little early tonight!
AdLib 5 days ago
But we can chat!
AdLib 5 days ago
Anything terrific.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
Some of what we were discussing, Trump is fully cooked, right? No coming back now?
AdLib 5 days ago
Your thoughts about this last week in the campaign? I am so bored by it. There is so much more to be said and if Clinton gets in on this run of lady luck then her agenda is more easily dismissed.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
Yes, Trump is cooked but I worry that enough GOP have pulled away to hold the Senate…the House was always a pipedream given jerrymandering.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
I think Trump’s tape followed by his pivot to go full conspiracy theory is the end of him and the beginning of Trump News produced by Ailes/Bannon.
AdLib 5 days ago
Trump/Breitbart Enterprises: Bringing the Real Truth to America to Make It Great Again!
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
I would suggest that Repub voting will be depressed and help Dems doown ticket. Sure, the 30% whoo are Trump loons will vote but the rest of Repubs? I think many will sit it out.
AdLib 5 days ago
I have been so busy with the Tammy Duckworth campaign….and it is looking good for her…but I want her to be part of the majority.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
Or will those Repubs be so angry that they are energized to come out in droves.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
The House is probably not possible but I would bet the Dems win The Senate. Trump is going to collapse even more in the polls as he begins too look like inescapably the loser.
AdLib 5 days ago
Murph – I think only that 30% will be energized. Trump only has 70% of Repubs supporting him and that number is shrinking.
AdLib 5 days ago
But the House will be weakened. Ryan’s only way to hold on to the speakership is to deal with Nancy and Hillary….to be an effective Speaker who isolates the crazies in his own caucus as a way of purging his Party of the Poison.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
I have read that Trump’s GOP attraction is in the mid to high 80’s which is still below the norm but not as far off as I thought it would be.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
Agreed! This coould be a remarkable opportunity too get things done…or Ryan may be denied re-election too Speaker by the RW Repubs remaining.
AdLib 5 days ago
Heard today that it’s doown to 70%.
AdLib 5 days ago
Ryan…..could be so weak that he has to have Dem votes to get the speakership…..I wonder if that deal could be done….OR would the GOP be so weak that they cannot elect so the Dems can?
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
And it’s only going to declime. I think Trump goes full lunatic in next week’s debate and it will accelerate the Repub alienation.
AdLib 5 days ago
Trump…full lunatic….have you notice that Christie, Giuliani and Gingrich have all disappeared…
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
Murph – That would be cool but it could also empower Ryan to beat Hillary in 2020.
AdLib 5 days ago
Giuliani is still around, he’s gone mental too. He’s so scary to listen to now!
AdLib 5 days ago
Ad….true….so what do you see happening with his caucus still 20 percent Tea Party/Liberty Caucus….
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
Rule of thumb is that the center doesn’t hold, they may try to rally together foor a while but could eventually just fade away. Or…Trump could rally them to continue with their takeover oof the GOP.
AdLib 5 days ago
Side note…..I saw Tammy face to face last week at a S. Ill. event….my Lord, is she ever impressive…entire address about veterans’ issues with a veterans’ Q and A following. Pretty hostile crowd at first but she is an army officer who was horribly wounded in action to save other soldiers and she KNOWS veteran issues……at the end she got a standing ovation.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
I do think Trump could try to hoold onto his supporters and try to permanently divide the GOP which would be fantastic.
AdLib 5 days ago
So if the center does not hold, and the far right does not have the numbers, can Pelosi put together a majority and become a minority leader of the House?
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
Wow, that sounds pretty damn cool! Don’t be discouraged, I think she can pull it out!
AdLib 5 days ago
Trump is definitely gunning for the unhappy right.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
Oh…I think that Tammy has the lead in this…..I am sorry if I was not clear…
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
When Tammy debates Kirk he comes off as so weak….he had a bad stroke and I think it has really affected his mentation. She is sharp as a razor blade. But kind.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
That would be a very interesting development. Possible but Ryan is a coward, he still won’t unendorse Trump but still runs away from him. Can’t see a coward like Ryan being brave enough to work with Dems.
AdLib 5 days ago
I am also hoping that Kander, Koster will be our next Senators and Gov here in Mo.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
Good, thought she was ahead!
AdLib 5 days ago
Then what does the next house look like?
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
Wish I had seen that debate. Will look for it on YouTube.
AdLib 5 days ago
She has had several appearances like that.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
What are their numbers like?
AdLib 5 days ago
Don’t you think the next House will be Repub but marginally? If that’s the case, I think it will be a gridlocked mess.
AdLib 5 days ago
CLose…..for both but since it was assumed that Blunt would hold his Senate seat, and that Jay Nixon’s replacement would be GOP….close is good….if things keep sliding they could pull it off.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
But imagine if Dems win the Senate as it looks like they will! And if they get rid of the filibuster for SCOTUS? We could have true liberals on the bench foor decades…in the majority!
AdLib 5 days ago
Gridlock will be put in the spotlight by Clinton who will aim to turn 2018 into a GOP bloodbath…won’t the GOP want to avoid this?
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
I am ALL for a new face for the SCOTUS…that alone would be a very good thing.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
Again, that could work out if Trump keeps plummeting in the polls and all but Trump wackos are discouraged from voting Repub.
AdLib 5 days ago
One more thing…what are your thoughts about the Trumpeters reaction to a Trump loss given the message that the election is rigged.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
Murph – You know Repubs, when they cause disasters, they always blame the Dems. Hillary will be blamed by them for refusing to negotiate, blah-blah-blah.
AdLib 5 days ago
Yes, imagine Citizens United gone, the VRA re-strengthened, so many wrongs could be righted!
AdLib 5 days ago
And one more thing……Pence is coming off as a Puny Putz….so much for the Savior of the ticket.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
I think that Trump’s followers are like him, big mouthed cowards. So “tough” to claim they’ll begin a revolution when Hillary wins but they’re too cowardly too actually do it. A small number may try to pull a Bundy but they will be slapped doown fast and hard which will end that fantasy immediately.
AdLib 5 days ago
And if the new scotus acts quickly the 2018 election would be affected. Yeah!
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
Always remember to ignore when the GOP and/or MSM touts anyone as the top contender for the GOP race in the next presidential election. They’re just trying to create a dynamic, it’s not real. Pence has to keep cancelling fundraisers because oof lack of interest. Hillary is down only 4 points in Pence’s state of IN and Pence is disliked and would have lost aa re-election run had he tried. Pence is a RW zealot who doesn’t have a prayer. Like the many GOP saviors before him, Jindal, Bob McDonnell, Fred Thompason, Jeb Bush…
AdLib 5 days ago
I have a neighbor…rabid racist Trump supporter…..he was at the neighborhood bar I have mentioned before a week or so ago and he was raging on about how the REAL AMERICANS are going to rise up if they are robbed of the election. He said he would “be gunning for anyone who was for LIAR HILLARY and her RAPIST HUSBAND.” He went on like that for a while. The bar tender finally told him to leave and he launched into an attack on the bar as a hot bed of left wingers. That made everyone laugh. The laughter drove him from the room. After he left though one our oldest wisest guys said this: “Kidding aside….anyone sees that SOB coming at em after the election with a gun in his hands…shoot first.”
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
And Pence is coming off as a Trump enabler, he’s not bringing any Repubs to Trump. Neither is Kaine foor that matter, bring anyone to Hillary. The Veeps don’t matter in this election.
AdLib 5 days ago
Murph, might a new SCOOTUS outlaw gerrymandering???
AdLib 5 days ago
I agree about Pence but I was surprised that Pence himself has played himself so badly in all of this and that has led to those in the party who spoke well of him to turn away.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
Since the states are left to decide congressional districts by whatever means they legislate…I think not UNLESS the means can be shown to be prejudicial (which they can)- so this will be like a VRA for congressional redistricting.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
Murph – Great anecdote! Not knowing him, maybe he would try to do that but my bet is that he and others like him are just looudmouth cowards who only say such things to make themselves feel more powerful than they know they aren’t. He will probably keep ranting and threatening but I wouldn’t bet he would follow through on his BS. Even so, that was good advice to shoot first if he does coome armed.
AdLib 5 days ago
Well I will wait for your last responses and then toddle off…I have foolishly volunteered to help with the Kander campaign out here in the boondocks tomorrow early. When will I learn.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
My feeling is that the rest there agreed and that mr.loudmouth will get the word of warning.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
What else was left for Pence? He had damaged himself beyond repair in his own state as Gov, couldn’t get elected to Senate either, this was the only path foor him to try and retain a political career…but it was a dead end. Pence isn’t anywhere near as bright as he tries to appear. This was career suicide and well deserved.
AdLib 5 days ago
Did you hear that Trumps new luxury Washington DC hotel is having to discount rooms…during Peak Washington Booking Season….the Trump Brand is a souring fast.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
Can’t stand pence…his religious freedom bills sickened me.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
That’s my point, Murph. I think redistricting can be demonstrated to be prejudicial and if so, the SCOTUS could bar it.
AdLib 5 days ago
Very cool of you to help Kander! Out here in Cali, we’ve already crushed the GOP, Dems hold every meaningful office, not as much to do out here but the propositions.
AdLib 5 days ago
Ad…but the means that is used to gerrymander can lead to fair redistricting too. I don’t think they can universally set it aside. This will be case by case with rulings setting standards for those committees.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
Ad…are there not neighboring states…..volunteer for a phone bank? You can do it from home.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
Yes, heard that Trump needs to rent his rooms for $700 and up a night to break even and he’s got tons of vacancies and trying to attract business at a cut rate of $500/room. While other hotels are sold oout!
AdLib 5 days ago
Yep…and I have read that negotiations have broken down on a dozen hotel branding proposals overseas….
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
Murph – There is re-districting which is fine and gerrymandering which isn’t. States can re-district as we do in CA, using a bipartisan coommission which keeps it from being gerrymandering.
AdLib 5 days ago
Agreed…but CA is using a very unusual model….I can’t see Scotus mandating it.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
Murph – Yes, we do have phonebanking. I like to focus on propositions though in the state. Often, they are trendsetting for the nation. Except pot legalization which got voted down years back!
AdLib 5 days ago
OH….I just heard your 70 percent number on Chris Hayes (a show I like more and more, the entire evening lineup with the exception of Matthews, is better)
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
Ad….involvement is the key and yours sounds like the kind of thing that you would excel at.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
Imagine how devalued the Trump brand is now! Around the entire world! What non-racist, non-misogynist would want to stay under a Trump roof? I think his brand gooes belly up and he’ll need a media outlet as revenue so he doesn’t have to claim another bankruptcy.
AdLib 5 days ago
Cool! I think that’s where I heard it!
AdLib 5 days ago
Good thoughts about Trump Media- and we can hope for failure there. We have been going for 45 minutes! Not bad for a chat. SO, goodnight. See you on Wednesday…..I wonder what Hillary’s strategy will be?
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
Thanks Murph. I have been involved out here in Cali, I’ve been working with Choicelady for years to get a proposition on the ballot that would give recourse against maliciously false ads.
AdLib 5 days ago
Political ads, that is.
AdLib 5 days ago
I am going to invite several Yabber folks here on Wednesday, I did last time but no one accepted.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
Cool, they would be very welcome! Night pal, look forward too seeing you here on Wed for the ultimate Trump meltdown!
AdLib 5 days ago
I think he goes nuclear on Wed!
AdLib 5 days ago
And his numbers will drop “yuugely”.
AdLib 5 days ago
Can you send me a concise explanation about how my Yabberz friends can join us on Wednesday?
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
Nuclear Trump….
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
OOur chat is now setup so they can simply read along by clicking the blue bar. If they sign up as a user, they can join the chat too.
AdLib 5 days ago
After signing in, that is.
AdLib 5 days ago
How do they sign up.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
I have forgotten.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
I am thinking of doing a short article and posting it in the private chat section to about a half dozen people…..
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
In fact, if you want to offer me the words I will use them directly in my post at Yabberz.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
They can click the “Login” link in the menu at the top or click on the square in the right hand column that says, “Become a member of PlanetPOV”.
AdLib 5 days ago
Sounds good!
AdLib 5 days ago
Do you want to send me a script….I will put my “why I like Vox at Planet POV” recommendation at the front and then plunk in your directions.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
OH and PPPPPPPSSSSSSS…..there are plans afoot for a reunion of Campaign 2008 Obama foot soldiers to mark the end of the Obama presidency…..there is a real sense of loss at work now.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
How about this? “Just click on the Login menu item at the top then click the “Register” link. Fill in your user name and password, click the link in the registration email you’re sent then login and join in!”
AdLib 5 days ago
Got it. Copied it and will use it.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
That sounds so cool!!! Obama’s ratings are climbing because I think Americans are already starting to miss him! He’s going away and we don’t want him too. That reunion should be so enjoyable and meaningful!
AdLib 5 days ago
My poor “o” key just keeps repeating, sorry!
AdLib 5 days ago
I think you are correct…..all of the conversation about ending Obama programs has some very worried….including long term GOP.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
Like the ACA?
AdLib 5 days ago
Very much the ACA but also VA funding and police funding…I have hear worried moans about all three. For the third time tonight….good night?
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
It won’t happen because Hillary will be elected. But what needs to happen are changes to the ACA, it really needs a public option too really protect it.
AdLib 5 days ago
Night pal! Seeya Wednesday night!
AdLib 5 days ago
Expect Hillary to jump on the ACA..she gets her chance to do what she could not before.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
And good night.
MurphTheSurf3

5 days ago
That would be smart for so many reasons. After filling the SCOTUS seat.
AdLib 5 days ago

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