Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PST…which is when we’ll be back from breaking up the Trump rally in Chicago!
AdLib 7 days ago
You’ve done a great job of it, Ad!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
See u soon
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Thanks PPO!
AdLib 7 days ago
John Kasich has concinced me to take credit for what everyone else does~
AdLib 7 days ago
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Trump wishes he could have run earlier in two thousand and hate.
AdLib 7 days ago
He would have loved to be in Chicago years ago with the police bully boys!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Yep, he’s such a tough guy…in his imagination. I bet Trump would drop like a ton of bricks if a protester punched him in the jaw.
AdLib 7 days ago
And though I literally fantasize of punching Trump in the face, I don’t ever want to see anyone be violent towards him or his supporters because it lets them off the hook for supporting violence.
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey Beatlex!
AdLib 7 days ago
Long time no see guys! What the Fk is going on with your country?
Beatlex

7 days ago
Trump hate on display and very American protesters not letting the hate go unconfronted.
AdLib 7 days ago
Live by hate, die by hate. Trump is turning indie voters against him in a big way.
AdLib 7 days ago
This is different to anything we have seen Ad.The death of a party
Beatlex

7 days ago
True Beatlex, Trump is strangling the GOP before our very eyes. It’s ugly but it has to happen.
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey glenn!
AdLib 7 days ago
Better them than the sensible people of the country.The strangest shit I have ever seen
Beatlex

7 days ago
Hey Ad, PPO, Beatlex. How is everyone? Good to “see” you, Beatlex!
glenn

7 days ago
hey glenn, Beat
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
This is The Real Donald Trump! America is seeing now how hateful he really is and how ugly his followers are.
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey glenn!
Beatlex

7 days ago
The real bully and his gang of Thugs has finally shown their true colors
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
brb
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Beatlex – Yep, it is weird to be going through this madness in what should be an enlightened day and age but the cavemen in the GOP will fight progress with all they’ve got.
AdLib 7 days ago
Beatlex–You are correct! This is the strangest shit I’ve ever seen! And, I’ve seen a few elections in my day! Trump is turning my country into a cesspool of hate. But, Ad keeps convincing me that trump supporters are not the majority of my fellow countrymen (and women), so I hold out hope for the GE.
glenn

7 days ago
Doing well glenn! And you? Soccer game tomorrow?
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey Planet folks!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
What happened with this protest? I was out and blissfully unaware…
Beatlex

7 days ago
Ad–Doing well, too. No soccer game tomorrow. My daughter and granddaughter are in FL for the weekend helping my oldest stepgranddaughter (now there’s a long word) choose her wedding dress. She got engaged over Christmas; in fact her boyfriend proposed to her on Christmas morning with all of us as “witnesses” and it was quite joyful. The wedding will be in December, so we’ll all be in Florida in December for the glorious weather!
glenn

7 days ago
Hey KT! How have you been?
Beatlex

7 days ago
Hey B! I guess there was a lot of tension between Trump supporters and anti-Trump folks. S
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT–how goes it?
glenn

7 days ago
glenn – A majority of America elected and re-elected Obama. Those are not Fuhrer Trump supporters. Trump’s ceiling is dropping lower and lower in a GE. Women strongly dislike him and indie voters are disgusted by this hate. The majority wants a President to bring the country together and Trump is poisoned terminally on this critical issue.
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey KT!
AdLib 7 days ago
I’ve been great B! And you?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Hey glenn and Ad! Nice to have some company this evening!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Hanging in KT,some health issues still
Beatlex

7 days ago
i hope you’re feeling better.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Wow, what happened in “Nuremburg,” today?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad–Agree with your post; except it’s not Trump’s ceiling that is dropping; it’s the floor below him! May he and his supporters rot in hell! What vicious, nasty people.
glenn

7 days ago
I have my good days and bad KT,mostly good lately.It is my IBS giving me trouble.It’s a bitch getting the diet balance right
Beatlex

7 days ago
glenn – How wonderful!!! Wish her all the best!
AdLib 7 days ago
KT–always glad to be in your company!
glenn

7 days ago
Ad–thanks.
glenn

7 days ago
Oops! Hillary really blew it with that Nancy Reagan blunder, didn’t she
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Yeah B, my daughter’s significant other has the same problem. I feel bad for ya. I know a bit of that sort of pain.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – Protesters by the thousands attended the Trump rally at the U of Chicago and it was so tense in there, Trump cancelled his appearance then conflicts broke out before the hall was cleared.
AdLib 7 days ago
KT–haven’t checked lately, but I did see headlines that trump had to cancel a rally because of all the protests.
glenn

7 days ago
Hey glenn! So glad to see ya.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
B, my Lady also has it. not at all funny.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Really OZ! What happened with her “people”?
Beatlex

7 days ago
Sorry?
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
this was bound to happen. When I heard the news, I wasn’t at all surprised.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
glenn – Well put! Indeed, the Trump is going lower and lower and that is bringing down his possible support with him. He will be crushed in a GE and I am sure hoping he locks up the Repub nom next week and dooms them to oblivion for the foreseeable future.
AdLib 7 days ago
I’m surprized that things weren’t worse.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
OZ,her advisors,she should have been better versed with it
Beatlex

7 days ago
‘And I see your true Colors shining through”!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
What’s up P?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
PPO – Yep, Hillary messed up oon Nancy and AIDS hugely, most know Ronald Reagan was horrible on AIDS, ignored it completely. But in light of this latest Trump madness, it won’t be a lasting meme.
AdLib 7 days ago
Oh, beat, THOSE! Useless, except for her regular GP. Inner Health Plus and a couple of other meds helping a bit.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
KT, Hi, Lonesome! Going in on Monday for my second leg Op, so won’t be here for a week or so
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
OZ,I was answering your Hillary comment! My bad
Beatlex

7 days ago
Is Nancy Reagan a good memory? Just Say No!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – The protesters aren’t violent so that undermines the possibility for violence, when only one side is violent.
AdLib 7 days ago
Damn Ad! I ‘m a bit dizzy after that!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
No worries, Beat!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
KT,”just say know” was,and is,fucking lame.It meant shit
Beatlex

7 days ago
NO.LOL
Beatlex

7 days ago
Exactly B! Talk about binary thinking!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad–and I hope repubs are doomed in Congress too, with this latest SCOTUS nonsense. I can’t believe these selfish, egotistical (sp) bastards! As many people have said, if President Obama doesn’t get his nominee voted on; those repubs who are up for election in November should not be allowed to vote for anything until Nov. After all, the people should be able to choose, right?
glenn

7 days ago
KT – Just say “agreed”! Nancy was an awful first lady and her husband was homophobic, a criminal (via Iran Contra) and deadly to the poor, mentally ill and homeless. I will never support the BS happy talk about people who did terrible things in goovernment just because they died.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad, I would have loved to see a total Donnybrook, with the protesters overwhelming the security and the rednecks. Oh, that’s what happened, so Drumpf chickened out..
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Same here, Ad! It’s bullshit.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
We must not speak ill of Saint Ronnie,Lest Nancy smote us dead!
Beatlex

7 days ago
PPO–wishing you the best for your op on Monday and for a speedy recovery!
glenn

7 days ago
Thabnks, glenn.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Just Say No! I never thought that would be the future GOP slogan!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
glenn – Rachel made the case yesterday that a nom who gets crushed doesn’t doom the congressional success of a party but I would bet heavily on the Dems crushing Trump and taking back the Senate. If they win big enough, who knows, maybe the House coould be taken back too!
AdLib 7 days ago
Ooooh! Priceless, KT!!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
What did Boehner once say? We’re not the party of no! We’re the party of HELL NO!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad–Nancy was an awful president and ronnie was an awful marionette who took orders from Nancy. I’ll never forget that clip of one ronnie’s press conferences where she had to mouth the words he spoke! Talk about pulling strings!
glenn

7 days ago
Kt, yes, the Reagan influences still today.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
DRUMF!! The Chump! Be afraid
Beatlex

7 days ago
PPO – As I mentioned above, I’d rather have Trump and his supporters seen as the violent ones. That will doom Trump in a GE, don’t want him having an ad showing Progressives being violent and justifying his hatred.
AdLib 7 days ago
Let’s Make Donald Drumpf Again!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
glenn – Great point. It is scary to think we had a Pres in office with Alzheimer’s and his wife was pulling the strings. How disgusting.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad, I totally agree. All is needed is for the protesters show up and yell long enough to have Drumpf’s toadies take a swing. But he was too cowardly to leave DrumpfOne!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Ad–perhaps if we had a decent DNC chairperson, the Dems could take back not only the Senate, but some State Senates and Houses. All the Dems have to do is point to states like MI, OH, and KS to show what total republican “governing” does to a state!
glenn

7 days ago
Kind of like Jed Bartlett and his MS! Only much worse!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – Yep!!! I heard John Oliver’s run out of those hats, they’ve been so popular!
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad, that was repeated with Rummy and W!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
++FLASH POLL++ HILLARY OR BERNIE? My American Friends
Beatlex

7 days ago
Heart: Bernie. Head, hillary
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO – That’s it! Just give the Trump Reich the opportunity to act like the hateful bigots they are and we all will win.
AdLib 7 days ago
B, I’m going to vote Blue, no matter who!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Nail on the head OZ! But you ain’t ‘Mercan!
Beatlex

7 days ago
good summation P! I feel the same way.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Beatlex–right now, I’m leaning toward Bernie because he is pulling the party to the left–finally! But I truly believe Hillary will be the nom, and I’ll vote for her over any republican!
glenn

7 days ago
KT PLEASE pass that on to the Dems who won’t vote at all unless bernie’s the nominee! Ultra scary!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Back atcha Beat!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
They are scary! This is no time for complacency or bruised consciences!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
glenn – You really nailed it! With DWS out and someone competent and Progressive in charge of the DNC, Dems woould sweep nationally this year. Meanwhile, she has dismantled the 50 State Strategy that Howard Dean built and brought in a Dem Congress and President. She is not on our side.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–I agree that the trump protesters MUST be nonviolent. They need to channel MLK to keep it nonviolent on the protesters side, so the difference can be shown. Any time we are reduced to violence; it makes us no better than the trump supporters, IMO.
glenn

7 days ago
DWS must go! She is a bonafide DINO!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Adlib,She is more on your side than not…no?
Beatlex

7 days ago
glenn, they have been non-violent, but when your protest is directed against a violent faction, shit is going to go down!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Oh, Lord! are we going to fight inside the DNC and screw any cohesion up? Please no. Concentrate on beating the GOP!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Don’t ever count Bernie out, I think he can do it. But if Hillary wins, I’ll be voting her in!
AdLib 7 days ago
Beatlex–hard to tell whose side DWS is on. She has made some horrible decisions that I believe have hurt the party.
glenn

7 days ago
BRB
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Ad–do you think Bernie’s momentum from MI will hold up?
glenn

7 days ago
Ad, if H gets the nom, she’ll be the only person able to stop the GOPers from dismantling everything good that Obama worked so hard for. People need to stop demonizing her.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Beatlex–a little change of subject, but it was lovely seeing your new PM and his lovely wife in the WH. Didn’t realize it had been so long since we have hosted a Canadian PM. How is your country accepting him?
glenn

7 days ago
glenn – Exactly, the Trump protesters must be willing to turn the other cheek and let the video pile up of his skinhead-like supporters showing their hate for America and Americans. The big picture is winning in Nov, winning a fistfight tomorrow is meaningless and counter-productive.
AdLib 7 days ago
Really KT. I personally don’t think America is ready for a socialist.I just don’t
Beatlex

7 days ago
Beatlex – I don’t think so, DWS is on her own side and that of corporate America. She is for the banks and against most of what Hillary, Bernie and Warren stand for. She is not an ally.
AdLib 7 days ago
not sure that the words “fist fight,” is a good choice, at this time!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Adlib: What is the alternative? Do you really think Bernie has a chance?
Beatlex

7 days ago
KT–I understand what you’re saying, but I’m not sure that fighting violence with violence is the answer. I sure would like to see that paradigm shift since we are now in the 21st century and for the first 20, that is what we have done. Isn’t it time for something new?
glenn

7 days ago
B, there is more than one variety of socialism. Democratic socialism is a very good thing, and necessary. America has always been a mix of capitalism and socialism.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Sure KT,but not everyone knows the difference
Beatlex

7 days ago
Well, that’s Bernie’s big job as a candidate!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
glenn – The Dem primary has been so rigged, it’s just not easy to characterize the true support for Bernie but it is deep and wide. Consider that Hillary has only really won in deep red Republican states that won’t be in play in a GE, Bernie is winning in blue and purple states. Plainly, he is showing to be more popular in the states that matter in general. If Hillary wins FL as predicted, that would be meaningful as it is the first purple state she could win. But that’s why I say never count Bernie out, this primary was front loaded with ultra-conservative Southern states, of course Hillary would win those over Bernie. But as the race turns West and towards more moderate and liberal states? Bernie could stage a big comeback.
AdLib 7 days ago
glenn, I’m not sure I follow you!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad–You mean doing something “christian” like turning the other cheek? I’m not there at the rallies, and I cannot imagine what it must be like to be sucker-punched and then thrown to the ground, but I do believe that non-violence is the best answer. That, and the g-d “liberal press” quite giving trump attention. I see where CBS wouldn’t let him “phone it in” the other day and that now other press people are saying that trump shouldn’t be allowed to “phone it in” anywhere. Finally!
glenn

7 days ago
Great point glenn! I too am sick of all the free campaign ads that the media willingly give to Trump. It’s a real dog and pony show!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Glenn,and giving his half hour “infomercials” disguised as press conferences wall to wall coverage
Beatlex

7 days ago
KT – Though I do agree people shouldn’t demonize either Hillary or Bernie, criticism of their positions or performances shouldn’t be quashed because it compromises the principles that Progressives value, staying true to principles and calling out when they disagree with something. I attack Repubs for being lockstep oon Repub noms, never would do the same with Dems. That said, Hillary and Bernie are booth thoughtful and mature people and there is no comparison with the slime running in the GOP.
AdLib 7 days ago
KT—just answering your post saying, “when a protest is directed against a violent faction, shit is going to go down.” I would just hate to see the protesters become violent as well. I hate to see them hurt; but, as Ad says, if they literally fight back, it only gives the trumpets more ammo, so to speak.
glenn

7 days ago
oops-not “quite” giving attention, but “quit”.
glenn

7 days ago
Exactly Ad. Hillary and Bernie are the only two mature adults in the entire race. I would also use the adjective, “wizened.”
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Yes glenn. The protester who was assaulted the night before at The Trump rally by that hick, he didn’t swing back. Saw him interviewed, he was a regular guy who took the attack and then was tackled by cops. He became better than all oof them and Trump due to that.
AdLib 7 days ago
Beatlex–OMG–I didn’t watch his infomercial, but from what I’ve read, every single one of those business he touted that night are no longer in business!
glenn

7 days ago
Ad–and I loved his last reponse, “Bless their little hearts” which is Southern for “fuck you!”
glenn

7 days ago
Well, when one is being attacked, personally, there is no choice but to fight back. That is simply a built in survival mechanism. It’s either fight or flight in viloent confrontations.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
glenn,that’s right.He lies constantly,but it is OK with his idiot supporters,The “Poorly educated” he claims to love…LOL,Fools
Beatlex

7 days ago
I know this from more than a few personal experiences.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT–I agree, but trump keeps insisting that the protesters are “swinging wildly” so he has “cover” for roughing them up. And the press needs to start doing its job; and instead of filiming trump start filming the audiences, especially the protesters who are being “escorted” out.
glenn

7 days ago
You saw that the head of CBS said something like, “Trump may be bad for the country but he’s great for ratings.” That is the perverse sensibility of the MSM. They don’t care if they promoted the antichrist to destroy all of humanity…if it meant satisfying their short term greed. As some have mentioned here, the MSM, in light of Trump’s gooons attacking and imprisoning journalists, should boycott his speeches and force him to buy ad time if he wants attention. That would destroy the egotistical Trump overnight!
AdLib 7 days ago
I agree glenn!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
*****stars Adlib!
Beatlex

7 days ago
KT – Well…Gandhi and MLK would disagree. When your opponent is a powerful bully, the best way to weaken them is to not return their hatred. What is Trump if he is only the leader of mindless hatred? The nation wants someone to bring us together, letting him brand himself as a divisive, bigoted hater kills his chances in Nov.
AdLib 7 days ago
Murdoch et al. must be rubbing their hands in glee. Imagine all the airtime they’d give Drumpf if he actually got the nom?
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
If you remember Ad, Ghandi and MLK were gunned down.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT–It must be difficult to not fight back; but perhaps the protesters can take “lessons” from the civil rights protesters of the 60’s and just start dropping and curling into a fetal ball. If they are not fighting back, perhaps the security guards cannot claim “innocence” in not protecting the protesters. Let the stupid media film a few of those and watch the shit fly then!
glenn

7 days ago
FACT: The media LOVES conflict,so much that they do their level best to create it
Beatlex

7 days ago
so were JFK, RFK and Malcolm X!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
True, Beat. The MSM is controlling what people see.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
and metger evers…et al.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Harvey Milk
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Exactly, P!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
BRB
glenn

7 days ago
glenn – It’s hard for the press to cover the protesters because Trump has them imprisoned in a media pen. Remember what happened to the one journalist who tried to step out of the pen at a rally to cover the ejection of a protester? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6k8WJXKhMyE

AdLib 7 days ago
ah, Nuremburg is so nice, this time of year!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – But the missions that Gandhi and MLK stoood for through non-violence succeeded.
AdLib 7 days ago
I wonder what would happen, Ad, if all the media rebelled against being penned in and boycotted Trump altogether?
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Hi PollyTics!
AdLib 7 days ago
How so, Ad? Eventually?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
hello adlib
PollyTics

7 days ago
PPO – The media owners are tooo greedy to do that. Look how Breitbart sold out their own reporter who Trump’s guy attacked!
AdLib 7 days ago
My point is, that this is a violent world, and people must not be kow towed. I’m all for peace, above nearly all else. But at some point, reality sets in. I don’t think Ghandi’s or MLK’s dreams took hold.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Nice to see you on Vox, PollyTics!
AdLib 7 days ago
sadly so, Ad.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
testing…testing
PollyTics

7 days ago
Hello PollyTics
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
greetings folks…i dont see my text on screen…am i incognito?
PollyTics

7 days ago
No, Polly – coming in clear to us
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
good, having some problems over here it would seem
PollyTics

7 days ago
Hey Homie! It’s nice to have some company tonight!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
But isn’t the self-destruction of the R’s a hoot? We progressives need to blow our horns a bit more.The R’s would be orgasmic if the Dems were to self destruct! We are to humble.LOL
Beatlex

7 days ago
KT – Non-violence has accomplished huge things though and when confronting those advocating violence in politics, I think non-violence is the preferred path.
AdLib 7 days ago
Your posts will be on your right hand side, Polly
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Hola, Planeteers! Home from the Sanders rally in Toledo!
kesmarn

7 days ago
Oh B, I’m loving the dissolution of the GOP right now.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
PolyTics, try scrolling down to the bottom oof the window, let me know if that helps!
AdLib 7 days ago
so i see…things have changed
PollyTics

7 days ago
KES!!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Hey, Homie! Good to be here!
kesmarn

7 days ago
PPO!!
kesmarn

7 days ago
Hey Kes!
AdLib 7 days ago
examples, Ad?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
so…we have a out and out fascist on the GOP ticket now. how unique
PollyTics

7 days ago
AdLib, I saw Sen. Sanders in person today!
kesmarn

7 days ago
What has really changed? Methods and language, for sure. But is institutional racism no longer a thing? Yes, it is.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I hear Hitler took a dim view of being compared to Drumpf.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
KT – The whole Civil Rights movement was based on non-violence and succeeded in massive ways whereas violence in the name of civil rights didn’t.
AdLib 7 days ago
Well they both have/had, pretty tiny manhoods. so I hear!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
kilgore, its just more of a thing now…no denying any ,onger
PollyTics

7 days ago
Hi Kes, how was the rally?
glenn

7 days ago
PolyTics – We’ve always had that fascist there, now The Emperor is being seen with no clothes.
AdLib 7 days ago
that’s my point
PollyTics

7 days ago
Hello Polly–don’t believe we’ve met before. Nice to meet you.
glenn

7 days ago
Kes – How cool! Details?
AdLib 7 days ago
glenn, and very nice to meet you as well
PollyTics

7 days ago
True Ad, but we’re off the original point. How do you think violence was curbed during the CR movement in the south? With opposing violence.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Kes and Polly–glad to have some female company tonight. Not that our men here are not wonderful; just glad to see some other females.
glenn

7 days ago
glenn it was just awesome! Very positive. Not one negative outburst. And Bernie was upbeat, future-oriented. No Hillary bashing. All hope. Then I come home to the news about Chicago. But I was glad to see that Trump’s hate-fest was cancelled.
kesmarn

7 days ago
KT – What do you mean? The whole MLK-led CR movement was non-violent. How was violence used to advance civil rights?
AdLib 7 days ago
it’s scuttlebutt, Ad! Years and years of scuttlebutt!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
“”the democrat” party…gessh i hate that term
PollyTics

7 days ago
thanks glenn
PollyTics

7 days ago
I hear you, Polly. That was Limbuagh’s creation. “Democrat Party.” He was too lazy to say the extra syllable.
kesmarn

7 days ago
Well, Sorry but I gotta head off to get ready for my leg op next week. I’ll see you all in about 10 days time. I may get in over the weekend to comment. Cheers for now
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
F them Polly! sticks and stones…
Beatlex

7 days ago
Kes–so glad to hear positive things about a political rally! The so-called liberal press is just eating up this trump shit and I’m sick and tired of it!
glenn

7 days ago
or too fat to get it out between bites
PollyTics

7 days ago
Prayers for a speedy recovery PPO! And no pain!
kesmarn

7 days ago
Kes – You really had the view of Two Americas today. A Dem and reasonable America and coming out to find the hate-filled nightmare a Repub/Trump America would be.
AdLib 7 days ago
Thanks, Kes
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Well, there were many violent incidents that required federal troops to intercede. Do you think the violent racisist just decided to give up? There were many violent clashes in the CR struggle!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
pinkpanther, so sorry to hear it, best wishes in the process!
PollyTics

7 days ago
PPO–all the best to you, and hope to hear from you soon! Please take good care!
glenn

7 days ago
See Ya OZ Mate!
Beatlex

7 days ago
Thanks PollyTics. Hope to see more of you in the future
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Guess who is working for the Tammy Duckworth campaign in Southern Illinois….
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
PPO – Wishing you all the best on your operation, my friend! Please let us know hear how things are when you can!
AdLib 7 days ago
you will Pinkie if I may call you pionkie
PollyTics

7 days ago
AdLib, that’s exactly what I said when I got home. Hard to believe those two “cultures” exist side-by-side in America today.
kesmarn

7 days ago
pinkie
PollyTics

7 days ago
Murph! Good to “see” you!
glenn

7 days ago
Hey, Murph!
kesmarn

7 days ago
Murph – Well done, pal!
AdLib 7 days ago
hello murph
PollyTics

7 days ago
Hi Glenn, Kes, Ad, Beatle, KT and Polly!
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
MURPH!!!
Beatlex

7 days ago
Que pasa, Murph!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Murph–good on ya! Duckworth is a woman worth working for!
glenn

7 days ago
Kes – There are always worms crawling beneath the slimy undersides of the prettiest rocks. Just the nature of existence.
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph – That Repub slam against Duckworth was so disgusting.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–well put! Just seems to be a lot of worms lately!
glenn

7 days ago
errr, not that it matters much…but I’m, getting hitched
PollyTics

7 days ago
I have a neighbor who is passionate about veterans issues and although we are in Mo. he is workng her campaign in Southern Il. He asked me to help organize…here we go!
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
glenn – They’ll always be there, unfortunately. There’s never been a society without bigotry and hatred lurking in it. Best thing for it is sunlight.
AdLib 7 days ago
Polly–congrats! When is the big day?
glenn

7 days ago
Congrats Polly!!!
AdLib 7 days ago
bigotry and hatred seems to go along with humkanioty
PollyTics

7 days ago
unfortunately
PollyTics

7 days ago
thanks 4
PollyTics

7 days ago
ahemmm, but I’m not wearing white
PollyTics

7 days ago
Polly! Congrats!
kesmarn

7 days ago
Polly…now that is real news…heartfelt congratulations….white is over-rated.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – Hope your friend knows all the Repubs have been trying to cut Veterans’ benefits!
AdLib 7 days ago
thanks…nothign fancy, but will happen sometime in April/early May. isnt secured yet
PollyTics

7 days ago
and increase the military budget! These GOPers don’t seem to understand the long term costs of war, like caring for veterans.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
So does anyone here think that today will change anything for Trump in winning FL and the Repub nom? Might the anti-Trump Repubs get traction or might it not matter at all?
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph–not in trumpworld is white over rated. But I do agree with your sentiment!
glenn

7 days ago
adlib, nope….exept with the secret service
PollyTics

7 days ago
AdLib, some people are actually speculating that Trump may gain from the events today. More publicity!
kesmarn

7 days ago
How can anybody actually believe that our military is being defunded, or cut back in any way! That is one of the biggest lies these pricks have been trying to sell.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad–nope–won’t change a thing. The trumpettes will blame either the media or the protesters because nothing says you’re a member of the republican party like blaming someone else for your own actions.
glenn

7 days ago
Polly – Agreed! I think Trump locks up his path to the nom next Tuesday and the GOP is (fortunately) doomed in a GE!
AdLib 7 days ago
Beatlex

7 days ago
kilgore, people believe anything that is said on TV…or repeated enough
PollyTics

7 days ago
Right, Homie! The military is still a “yooge” part of the budget.
kesmarn

7 days ago
Ad–yup. If trump runs third party, they’re doomed; if he runs as a repub, they’re doomed! Good!
glenn

7 days ago
Beatlex–good one!
glenn

7 days ago
Well Polytics that is certainly true of some people. But there are many, many more that seek more info.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
BRB!
kesmarn

7 days ago
glenn – You know my favorite math, Trump has 40% of the GOP which is 24% of voters so he has only around 10% of voters behind him…90% of voters right now are not supporting Trump including a majority of women Repubs who oppose him and Indie voters by a huge margin against. He is a fringe candidate who has been inflated by the MSM for their profits. In a GE, he will implode.
AdLib 7 days ago
KT–If I remember correctly, I saw a pie chart of our entire budget, and the military was the largest slice of the pie. And that didn’t include the VA. I think it was over 50% of the budget!
glenn

7 days ago
Listening to the discussion on the radio as I drove him, the Trumpskyites on my local talk station regard the “shutting down of a Trump rally” as an act of war….and are vowing to make Trump bigger yet.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Hey Homie!. It makes me sick. The reason for that line of crap is that America’s national economy is very dependent on production for war. I’t the old warning the Ike gave us about the MIC. Almost every state in our country has military production facilities that provide a lot of jobs to Americans. It’s really shameful, in my opinion!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
glenn, the more boots on the ground equals more vets in the waiting room!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I hear you, Homie! There are better ways to put people to work than making war materials. Bernie plans some MAJOR changes in that area.
kesmarn

7 days ago
Murph–so now the trumpettes have declared war on their fellow citizens! Way to make friends and influence people!
glenn

7 days ago
It is a national disgrace in my opinion, Homie!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Beatlex

7 days ago
Glenn….tough times ahead.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
It is. And to the world we look like one huge war machine, Homie!
kesmarn

7 days ago
Kes–the reason we look like one huge war machine is because we are one huge war machine!
glenn

7 days ago
Just like our 2 million plus people incarcerated, many by for profit prison companies.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
nO doubt glenn. We have been at war for nearly every decade of our existence as a nation.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Murph – Only works to Dems benefit to have Trump supporters even more pissed off.
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph–agreed. I believe we are going to have go through another period like the Vietnam war protests and the civil rights protests of the 60’s before it gets any better. And when trump loses the election, there’s no telling what his supporters will do.
glenn

7 days ago
glenn, you are correct!
kesmarn

7 days ago
glenn,they will find a way to blame Obama
Beatlex

7 days ago
Hey, Kim Davis got an STD, it’s Obama’s fault!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT–that’s kinda the point I was trying to make earlier about non-violence and treating violence with violence. I am so glad we have a calm, thoughtful, diplomatic President right now. I hope the next President keeps on working through diplomatic means and not just “boots on the ground.” It’s time for a shift. We are not the world’s police force, and we should quit acting like it!
glenn

7 days ago
ahhh, that’s better
PollyTics

7 days ago
KT…Kim D. really…
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
glenn – It would only be great to have more social activism but I don’t think it will be as needed as if a Repub won the WH.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad..hope you are right…Dem apathy has me worried.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Palin’s spawn beat up his girlfriend….it’s Obama’s fault!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
murph, ditto!
PollyTics

7 days ago
Beatlex–well, of course, it’s a given that they will try to blame Obama, but just everybody but the most die-hard trumpettes have seen through that by now.
glenn

7 days ago
Glenn…I hope the conflict to come has meaning but given Trump’s ability to garble anything…I doubt it.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
what’s the matter with seniors these days?
PollyTics

7 days ago
Some of my friends on the left think Obama was a “sell out” for not fighting hard enough for the progressive agenda. Watch this to see my argument to them please…
Beatlex

7 days ago
Beatlex

7 days ago
Here…
Beatlex

7 days ago
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/warren-connects-senate-gop-to-2016-extremism-641841219770

Warren: Senate GOP ‘paying the price for their own extremism’
Senator Elizabeth Warren talks with Rachel Maddow about how the past seven years of Republican anti-Obama extremism in the Senate has brought about the extremism in the 2016 Republ…

Beatlex

7 days ago
Murph – If you had any worry about Dem apathy. seeing the protesters take oover the Trump Rally should put your worries to rest. Trump will rouse Dems to vote big time. Latinos, women, African Americans, Muslims, youth…huge numbers will vote Dem.
AdLib 7 days ago
Beatlex, did they even tune in to listen to what the actual CONGRSS has said about Obama?
PollyTics

7 days ago
Me too glenn. Sensible, decent people abhor violence, as they should, but the reality is, that it is sometimes, maybe offtimes, necessary!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT–well of course it’s Obama’s fault that palin’s spawn beat up his girlfriend. After all, if President Obama had only used his magical powers to fix the VA, then the devil’s spawn wouldn’t have had to beat up his girlfriend.
glenn

7 days ago
Saw the entire Warren address….she could light the bonfire.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I adore Warren…her time will come soon enough
PollyTics

7 days ago
Ad….will those groups be enough…
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Well, kids, I’ll have to sign off for now. Long day at the rally and much of it on my feet (and hiking to the 5th floor of the parking garage). Have a great weekend!
kesmarn

7 days ago
night Kesman, be well!
PollyTics

7 days ago
Beatlex – There were many more purists attacking Obama earlier but goood news, Obama’s positives are up towards record territory now! I guess, one look at Trump and the natioon really appreciates Obama!
AdLib 7 days ago
right now, we need Warren in the Senate. Being a VP would be a waste of her talents.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
agreed
PollyTics

7 days ago
Night Kes, have a great weekend!
AdLib 7 days ago
Kes–great talking to you, if only briefly. Take care and have a good weekend!
glenn

7 days ago
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/warren-connects-senate-gop-to-2016-extremism-641841219770

Warren: Senate GOP ‘paying the price for their own extremism’
Senator Elizabeth Warren talks with Rachel Maddow about how the past seven years of Republican anti-Obama extremism in the Senate has brought about the extremism in the 2016 Republ…

Beatlex

7 days ago
wow..what was that
PollyTics

7 days ago
page not found?
PollyTics

7 days ago
Later Homie! See ya on the 15th!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Sorry,won’t post
Beatlex

7 days ago
Kilgore, what is the 15th?
PollyTics

7 days ago
next frieday?
PollyTics

7 days ago
BNO
PollyTics

7 days ago
The Ohio primaries!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I just wanted to check in…tired from an evening of wrangling….my friend is trying to organize vets to rally round Tammy but in this part of the world to be a vet and not be deep, dark red is besmirch the uniform…it wil be a long journey.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
YOU LEAVING NOW MURPH?
PollyTics

7 days ago
yiukes. caps lock
PollyTics

7 days ago
Murph – So only Repub Vets Matter?
AdLib 7 days ago
No worries, Polly!
AdLib 7 days ago
I am super tired…so I will likely check out soon.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
ahhh yes…so kilgore, you will have a live cha on the primaries?
PollyTics

7 days ago
Ad…..hard to find a vet who id’s Dem…amazing given how screwed they were as a group.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
night night myroh…don’t let them pesky bed bugs bite
PollyTics

7 days ago
Polly – We have live chats for debates, this live chat, Vox Populi, every Friday night at 7:00pm PST and an election thread on election nights.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–There is a video online entitled something like, “An Ungrateful Nation Thanks You, President Obama”. I believe it was written by a member of the press and it points out all of President Obama’s best traits–his calmness, his positive demeanor in the face of the constant, unfounded criticism and obstructionism by repubs and many other of President Obama’s finer character traits. I’ll try to find the link; it’s worth watching.
glenn

7 days ago
Beatlex

7 days ago
adlib, thanks..knew about freinday night…not primaries
PollyTics

7 days ago
Glenn I want to see that Obama film!
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph, there is always room for improvement in any institution, but the VA does not get any credit for the wonderful improvements they’ve made throught the last three decades. As a vet, the VA has never failed me. Is that to say it hasn’t failed others? No. But it’s a large institution that has to deal with unimaginable problems.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Murph–trying to find it now; please give me a minute.
glenn

7 days ago
glenn – Will look for it. I have no doubt future generations will loook back at Obama’s Presidency and assume he was widely loved for all his amazing accomplishments in his time. As people thought Lincoln and FDR were.
AdLib 7 days ago
\I almost want drump to get the nominee…but the scarey part is that there just MIGHT be enough of knuckleheads to elect him
PollyTics

7 days ago
The VA is not dealing with the same problems that civilian hospitals have to deal with.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT….I agree in general….VA hospital in my region is just overtaxed….too many demands, too few resources.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Polly – I do want Trump to be the nominee, I am very confident there are not 50% fo voters who are racist and hateful. He will lose big time.
AdLib 7 days ago
Unless America goes ‘FULL BERNIE SANDERS” Things won’t change that much.Simple fact.But nothing is simple in America
Beatlex

7 days ago
vet hopsitals in northern california are not popular…they don’t have the resources they need to actually treat patients
PollyTics

7 days ago
Murph, that varies from state to state, even though it’s a federal institution, some state money and congressional representation makes a difference. I’ve been to 4 different VA facilities in 4 different states. There is a big difference in the care and attitude.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
adlib, me too (on a good day)…
PollyTics

7 days ago
KT….Mo. state gov has done SO little it is pathetic…while wavey the flag of the true patriot…so hypocritcal.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Polly,thank the R’s for that,they have the purse strings,and have done f+++ all for Vets
Beatlex

7 days ago
Beatlex – I don’t know about that. I think people are ready to step up and insist on change no matter what.
AdLib 7 days ago
Polly, Trump cannot win a general election. He has pissed off too many groups of voters.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
OK, here goes: (don’t scream too loudly please) but I don’t think that Bernie can get the policies didscusses passed. If Obama couldn’t do it, i doubt bernie could
PollyTics

7 days ago
Murph – At least MO has made it legal to discriminate against gays!
AdLib 7 days ago
Polly.you are right,IMO
Beatlex

7 days ago
That is so disgusting Murph! Nobody asked them what state they were from when the shit hit the fan!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Way to go back in time, MO!
AdLib 7 days ago
Polly…I have been saying that from the start…..his record in the HOuse and Senate is one of an accomplished gadfly but not a deal maker.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
thanks beatlex
PollyTics

7 days ago
Polly – I think both Bernie and Hillary would have a very hard time getting anything meaningful passed with a Repub House in power.
AdLib 7 days ago
All–okay, just googled it; and it was written by a journalist and if you google “Mr. President, On Behalf of an Ungrateful Nation” you get lots of links. I saw it as a video, but it was actually a column written back in July of 2015. Here is one link: www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tim-graham/2015/07/22/unbiased

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glenn

7 days ago
Well worth reading.
glenn

7 days ago
i have always loved bernie…jsut dont thin he can get it done. it seems shallow overall
PollyTics

7 days ago
Ad…..AND the GOP are putting that anti-Gay action forth as a CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT…..!
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Thus the call for a political revolution, Ad. Bernie means it when he says he can’t do anything without our “continued,” support.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Polly,it is pie in the sky stuff
Beatlex

7 days ago
Murph – Standing on principle doesn’t make one a gadfly. Many valuable politicians were seen as dreamers until what they fought for over years came to fruitioon.
AdLib 7 days ago
GLENN….thanks for the lead.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
adlib, with the congress isn the current configuration, it would be difficult to have anyone get it passesd…much less someone who calls himself a Socialist
PollyTics

7 days ago
Even if Hillary is the nom, I think Bernie would still want our continued support of his ideas.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
glenn – Thanks for the link, will check it out after Vox!
AdLib 7 days ago
KT…remember 2010…two years after the Obama revolution…the left wing voter has the memory of a gnat
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Well Murph, that has just got to change.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Murph–and the left wing voter has even less motivation than a gnat!
glenn

7 days ago
ooops…the bell just went off, time to put in the frozen pizza (it’s Calfornia Bar B Que Chicken Pizza)…notbhing stops me from that!
PollyTics

7 days ago
Polly…we and on the same page.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
nice to know murph…i was taken down earlier this week on that subjust.
PollyTics

7 days ago
Polly – Hard to guess what Repubs hate more, a Democratic Soocialist or a Clinton. I have no doubt they will do all they can, as they have with Obama, to prevent anything from being accomplished whether it’s Hillary or Bernie in the WH. The rest is all a legit debate between Hillary and Bernie but neither will get what they talk about passed with a Repub House.
AdLib 7 days ago
gotta go slide in that pizza for din din. Night folks, very nice chat! Please be well
PollyTics

7 days ago
Murph and Ad–it’s a great read.
glenn

7 days ago
Night Polly! See you soon!
AdLib 7 days ago
Polly want a cracker?? LOL
Beatlex

7 days ago
lol always bealtex
PollyTics

7 days ago
:::waving:::
PollyTics

7 days ago
G’night Polly. Enjoy your pizza and your weekend!
glenn

7 days ago
Polly…thse on the left can be as passionate as anyone in their certainty but I think we are, as a crowd, far more respectuful than the right.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Later folks! It’s been really nice to have a few folks to “talk,” to. Take care, all.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
G’night KT–Take care!
glenn

7 days ago
HEY KT! Later Bud
Beatlex

7 days ago
Polly…enjoythe pizza and one more CONGRATS!
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – So to make your point, what were Hillary’s biggest accomplishments while in The Senate?
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–voting for the Iraq war?
glenn

7 days ago
Ad…she was not there long…I am looking at her overall reputation…I admit the case is intuitive and Sanders could surprise me but it strikes me that he had the better platform from which to make that case.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Well…I am really dead and have a 7 AM in the morning….getting too old for this….where are all those idealistic kids!
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Ad–was just going to post what Murph did in regards to Hillary’s time in the Senate. She was there for less than 2 years, wasn’t she?
glenn

7 days ago
Murph – Not really fair to diss Bernie for taking unpopular but principled stands and sticking by them consistently while not holding Hillary to the same ruler.
AdLib 7 days ago
G’night Murph. Get some rest to be ready to fight for Tammy!
glenn

7 days ago
Ad…it is his job to convince me…but it is also her’s. So far…no final sale but whoever it is…they will have my full support.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Ad–that’s what I like the most about Bernie; his consistency. He’s been fighting for the same things since he was elected Mayor!
glenn

7 days ago
But Hillary has convinced you without passing a single bill?
AdLib 7 days ago
And making bad choices like supporting the Iraq War?
AdLib 7 days ago
Since everyone’s leaving, my turn to check out. Ad and Murph, please take the time to read that “ungrateful” post. Take care, gentlemen, and see you next week!
glenn

7 days ago
glenn – My point though is that some use the meme that Bernie’s been in the Senate a long time and hasn’t gotten much passed but give Hillary a pass for being less experienced and never passing anything worthwhile.
AdLib 7 days ago
Take care, glenn! Have a great weekend!
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–point taken and agreed upon!
glenn

7 days ago
America has come a long way adlib,but i am not sure that America is ready for a socialist.That is where my doubt comes in
Beatlex

7 days ago
Beatlex – It would admittedly be a battle for Bernie but there is a massive difference between a socialist and a Democratic socialist. Europe is run under democratic socialism, they’re capitalist countries and not so different from the US except they provide college and health care for their residents and make the super wealthy pay more taxes. Not a massive difference or hill to climb but Repubs will try to say he wants us to become the USSR.
AdLib 7 days ago
Coool glenn!
AdLib 7 days ago
Really Ad,the average American does not know the difference
Beatlex

7 days ago
Goodnight VOX!
Beatlex

7 days ago
Night Beatlex! Have a great weekend!

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