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AdLib On January - 8 - 2016
Vox Populi is back!!! Our first-of-the-year live chat on the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PST!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey escrib!
AdLib 7 days ago
Don’t forget to say “Hi!” or “GOPlode!” when you arrive!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey Murph!
AdLib 7 days ago
Trump/LePaige 2016!!!!!! GOPlode!
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Boom goes the Trumpanite!
AdLib 7 days ago
“Oh, okay, we’re a racist party. But what’s worse is the political correctness that people use to judge all of us as a group for that!”
AdLib 7 days ago
How were your holidays?
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey glenn!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey Ad, hey Murph, hey Cat! Happy New Year!
glenn

7 days ago
Hi glenn
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Happy New Year to you, glenn!
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–just a question. There was no VOX last week? I checked in about 10:30, and there was no VOX. Thought I was too late! (which is the story of my life).
glenn

7 days ago
hi folsk
escribacat

7 days ago
folx
escribacat

7 days ago
foxe
escribacat

7 days ago
Hello Scat
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph–so which is it? Trump or Cruz? Ad and Scat, what are your predictions?
glenn

7 days ago
Right glenn, that was my bad! I had planned on hosting Vox last Friday night but got tied up!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey escrib!
AdLib 7 days ago
I still think Trump is going to run into an iceberg.
escribacat

7 days ago
Glenn…Trump has the advantage.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Fauxe?
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–no problem.You deserve a break! Just glad to know I wasn’t losing my mind, which is always a possibility!
glenn

7 days ago
Maybe Trump can get away with his bully crap with the cretins who come to his events but I don’t see how he can function in a real election
escribacat

7 days ago
Did you all see the Financial Times interview today in which Charles Koch condemns both Trump and Cruz for their stance on Muslims.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Yeah, I saw that Murph. Koch is disappointed that he can’t control Trump or Cruz, is how I took it.
escribacat

7 days ago
Murph–no, missed that. The Kochs like Muslims?
glenn

7 days ago
escrib – Trump is like a Titanic running into another Titanic.
AdLib 7 days ago
Trump is like an alcoholic — drunk on power right now. He’s not entirely in control of himself.
escribacat

7 days ago
Scat–From the headline I read (and I only read the headline), the Kochs are disappointed that they can’t seem to buy the primary even with the obscene amount of money they’re spending.
glenn

7 days ago
The Kochs have embarked on an all out ongoing PR campaign to say “Evil is the new black”. Trying to soften their truly evil image.
AdLib 7 days ago
Whereas Sleezy Cruz is in control of himself…if only he weren’t such a repulsive dork, which he can’t hide.
escribacat

7 days ago
Glenn–yes that was the gist of the article.
escribacat

7 days ago
The Kochs regard the Trump/Cruz approach as counter-productive making the war on Islamic terrorism more difficult.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
It’s scary when two candidates make the Koch’s look rational.
escribacat

7 days ago
Escrib – I like your description of Trump as like an alcoholic. He gets drunk though on his own homemade moonshine and surrounds himself with idiots who laugh at the horrible things he does. He has no awareness of how the majority of Americans see him and his horrible statements.
AdLib 7 days ago
Scat–Trump is so drunk on power that he’s willing to take protesters’ coats away from them. What an awful human being he is, and his supporters are even worse. I was appalled to see those trump supporters literally rip that sign out of two protesters’ hands when they were just sitting there. And then the incident with the coat when trump’s supporters cheered! These people are so out of control, it’s beyond redemption!
glenn

7 days ago
Glenn–I saw those exact same scenes. Really scary people.
escribacat

7 days ago
They are a classic pitchfork mob, a rabble, roused up by this demagogue. I’ve never seen anything like it.
escribacat

7 days ago
There is more and more about Trump that reeks of fascism.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
And how funny is it that Ted Cruz could genuinely be ineligible to be President because he may not be a natural born citizen! All of his supporters were on blogs for the past two elections attacking Obama for not being American!
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad, do you think Trump really lives in a bubble and can’t see how vile he is? A lot of journalists are starting to call him on it finally.
escribacat

7 days ago
It’s true that someone who is “drunk” really doesn’t realize how they come off. I wonder if he has experienced a mental break or something….
escribacat

7 days ago
Scat–I agree. I’ve never seen anything like it and I’ve been around a while. It reminds me of the Vietnam war protests; the way our country is being torn apart by people who won’t even try to listen to reason. They are “right” and everyone else is wrong; it just absolutely astounds me!
glenn

7 days ago
Everyone makes fun of “political correctness” but what it means is that you should behave in a civilized manner, even if you aren’t civilized. These people are not civilized and have been given permission by Trump to behave like barbarians.
escribacat

7 days ago
escrib – The wealthy live in a bubble. Celebrities live in a bubble. Combine the two with a Presidential candidate? Trump doesn’t even know how to eat pizza, he uses a knife and fork. He says “The blacks love me.” All politicians are in a bubble of some kind but Trump is so oblivious to reality, he doesn’t know what the majority of Americans think of him or what the blowback of an all out racist and sexist campaign in a primary will do to him in a general election.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–I read another headline (I try not to read too much about Cruz because he just creeps me out), that says that Cruz’s mother was registered to vote in Canada; thereby making her a Canadian citizen at the time Cruz was born. I guess she could have had dual citizenship; but I didn’t think that was possible. Wasn’t that the “glitch” with the “swiss miss” when she tried to become a Swiss citizen?
glenn

7 days ago
Good point Ad. When he says The blacks love me or the Hispanics love me, do you suppose he actually believes it?
escribacat

7 days ago
Trump spent the night last night in this pattern. Sprinkle statements of disdain for various policies, and ideas with chatty mutual admiration between himself and the crowd and personal attacks on his foes in either party, with responses to protestors that further egg on the crowd….that is his stump speech.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph — and no substance whatsoever. And the mob is fine with that.
escribacat

7 days ago
His supporters are a true mob.
escribacat

7 days ago
Complaining about “political correctness” is a ruse to allow Repubs to say horrible things and not be criticized. Trump says horribly racist things yet his supporters say, “He’s a straight talker.” The math is pretty easy, openly saying racist things is “talking straight” for Trump followers.
AdLib 7 days ago
Fine with it…ecstatic.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Ad–okay, I have to take issue with you on one thing. I also eat pizza with a fork and knife. Mainly because my front teeth (yes I do have them), just won’t tear the pizza apart, so I have to cut it. Maybe trump and I have something in common, which makes me absolutely shudder! However, as far as I’m concerned, eating pizza with a fork and knife is the LEAST of trump’s problems!
glenn

7 days ago
Glenn–there’s a rumor over at rawstory that Cruz’s mother was married to someone named Wilson, a Canadian for whom she renounced her citizenship. Then later she married Cruz. But it’s a rumor
escribacat

7 days ago
I LOVE IT THAT CRUZ IS BEING TREATED LIKE OBAMA.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Scat–The rumors are beginning to come thick and fast! Love it!
glenn

7 days ago
Murph–yeah, isn’t it great that the right wing is getting a taste of their own medicine? And from other right wingers, no less!
glenn

7 days ago
I’m going to spread rumors that Cruz eats foreign mustard and bows to Canadians.
escribacat

7 days ago
glenn – Yep, I think Cruz and his mother had dual citizenship. But the SCOTUS has never affirmed whether “natural born citizen” means born in the country or is the same as a citizen just with American parents (just 1 in Cruz’s case).
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad — if Cruz gets the nomination, we’ll have to take it to the SCOTUS
escribacat

7 days ago
All right, I’m here.
funksands

7 days ago
All right funk
escribacat

7 days ago
Murph–I do worry that cruz will be treated like a martyr, which he already whines about anyway. I really can’t stand that man; he creeps me out more than trump, and that’s going some!
glenn

7 days ago
Are you still in the honeymoon suite after all this time?
escribacat

7 days ago
All right! Da funk is here!
glenn

7 days ago
Glenn–the Creepy is strong with that one.
escribacat

7 days ago
I’d better change that to the Howard Hughes Suite!
funksands

7 days ago
AD….if Trump were not in the race Cruz’s citizenship problem would not be front and center….so there is one good thing I think about him.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
glenn – It’s a NY thing, you can’t be a “real” New Yorker and not eat pizza with your hands…unless you aren’t used to eating pizza which is really being in a bubble.
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey there Funk!
AdLib 7 days ago
Glenn…Cruz has no fans in the ranks of GOP regulars…they are snickering with delight…..he will only be a martyr among his own….
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Hi funk…
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
You know I have a weird take on the GOP candidates that my wife still is pissed about.
funksands

7 days ago
Murph–maybe, maybe not. McCain and Carly have both weighed on cruz’s citizenship problem. Not to mention Rand. I did love Rand’s response…that cruz is eligible to be prime minister of Canada. I bet the Canadians are glad they dodged that one!
glenn

7 days ago
Hi Ad! Murph! Glenn! Ecat!
funksands

7 days ago
Murph, Rince the Prince (whatever the hell his name is) said today he’d 100% support Cruz or Trump. I thought that was interesting.
escribacat

7 days ago
Glenn…as I said….this is payback for the GOP regulars…thumping on the Cruzer.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – True, Trump’s breathed life into the birther claim against Cruz…that’s his M.O. and turning Cruz into “the other” is great for him.
AdLib 7 days ago
I think Trump is the least objectionable candidate in their field. He’s awful in every way, but if the Democratic party disappeared right before the general and I was forced to vote GOP at gunpoint I might have to pick him. THAT’s scary!
funksands

7 days ago
Priebus will support whoever the muck hand to him cuz he wants to keep his job.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Ad…he does know how to be a stalking dog.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Scat–well Rince has to support the republican candidate, whoever he is, doesn’t he? What is he going to say? In some ways, it’s no different than the Dems, who will support either Bernie or Hillary. I’m not saying the candidates are the same; just that the chairman of the national committee has to support that party’s candidate.
glenn

7 days ago
Does that make me crazy? I keep thinking it.
funksands

7 days ago
escrib – Reince knows he’s impotent along with the RNC so of course he’s going along with whatever is happening and saying, “Yeah, this is what we want!”
AdLib 7 days ago
funk, yes you’re crazy. But there’s something to it. Most of the others are religious nuts.
escribacat

7 days ago
Murph–yeah, it is nice to see the right wingers dissin’ on cruz.
glenn

7 days ago
He very may well be the worst person in their field, but perhaps the least dangerous.
funksands

7 days ago
Funk….trump….really…how about Kasich- the only one on the state I would consider.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I can’t decide if I think Trump really believes his own bullshit. I think he just figures out what the crowd wants to hear and says it. Like Barnum and Bailey
escribacat

7 days ago
But Trump is not an ideologue like the others.
escribacat

7 days ago
Murph, he’s 100% in the “Dismantle the social contract” caucus.
funksands

7 days ago
Funk–that is pretty scary! Think I’d just stay home, and let them point the gun at me…if they’re just pointing it, that is.
glenn

7 days ago
Me too Glenn. I’d never vote for any of them.
escribacat

7 days ago
glenn, no kidding! I may just let wing me to teach me a lesson
funksands

7 days ago
Imagine what’s going to happen in the next month or so, Trump and or Cruz could be annointed as the two main competitors for the GOP nom and then in March, on Super Tuesday the South will essentially select the nom…and it ain’t gonna be Bush! The GOP establishment will be hitting the nuke button!
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad — it looks pretty bad for the GOP. They are a failed party.
escribacat

7 days ago
I think they have their hopes on Rubio.
escribacat

7 days ago
Funk….he expanded medicaid….I need to look at the rest…..
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
E-cat, he’s a salesman. He’s simply responding to what his customers want.
funksands

7 days ago
Which is scary funk since his best customers are crazed bigots.
escribacat

7 days ago
Ad…what does the GOP nuke button look like.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph, he isn’t a reactionary, he’ll take free money. True-believers won’t, stupid people won’t, but he will
funksands

7 days ago
Ad, I predict that at least 5 more GOP candidates will be out after NH.
funksands

7 days ago
Funk, well….it is not as if it will matter….Kasich stands not a whiff of a chance.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
However, I think far fewer people will vote for Trump when it comes to doing it. I think Cruz will crush him in Iowa
funksands

7 days ago
Trump is being shielded from reality by the MSM too because they’re making a fortune on his candidacy. Right now, it doesn’t matter if he wins the election. But if he’s in the GE and people then turn to think about him being President with all the threats and dangers and diplomacy (let alone reputation) connected to the office of President of the U.S., he will be destroyed. Why is he bulletproof right now? Because this is just a reality show now that the MSM doesn’t want to end. But will their CEOs really want Trump’s finger on the button? No way.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–the gop establishment has no one to blame but themselves. They have courted these wingnuts for years, and now they are reaping what they have sown. Too damn bad for them! That’s what the kochs are complaining about, too. Once again, too damn bad! I have no sympathy for them whatsoever! They won’t stop the two biggest idiots; they won’t try to tamp down their nasty rhetoric; so too bad! My sympathy is reserved for my fellow countrymen and women who have to listen to these idiots for the next year! And, damn it, we have to GOTV!
glenn

7 days ago
Ecat, you got it.
funksands

7 days ago
Murph – I think the GOP Establishment will try to do the smoke filled room thing, make big offers to GOP candidates to get them to agree to drop out and manipulate the race into a (hopefully on their part) a two person race which could bring Trump down.
AdLib 7 days ago
If Cruz beats Trump in Iowa….Trump will go mad….he is narcissistic, meglomaniacal, and sociopathic (if not in his heart then in his public guise)….and that will set him off.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Ad, you hit on it. Why will Trump lose? Because people get more practical once they actually vote.
funksands

7 days ago
Glenn, you are right on. They’ve created a feedback loop that they can’t break out of. To the detriment of our nation.
funksands

7 days ago
Murph–I agree; it won’t be pretty if cruz beats trump in Iowa. There is no telling what he will do.
glenn

7 days ago
Ad….but who will be left who will be credible and how will that person build a base OR will they just concentrate on the House and Senate and leave the Presidency to a burnt offering.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph, I predict Cruz will beat Trump by 15% in Iowa or more.
funksands

7 days ago
Trump may not even finish second. I don’t think he stands a chance in caucus states.
funksands

7 days ago
Funk….my lord, if that happens I will be dying to see the Trump “concession” – let lose the dogs of war.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
The dynamic is so different. It’s all about organization and turnout.
funksands

7 days ago
Murph – I think you’re right, Trump will get very hostile if he loses in IA. But if he wins there and in NH??? Look out GOP, he’s on the menu!
AdLib 7 days ago
Funk….but the word now is that Trump has a surprisingly robust on the ground operation.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
You know, guys, I truly don’t which one scares me more. Cruz is the true definition of a sociopath, IMO. And trump is just plain scary with his stupid “personna”. Talk about a choice between a devil and a devil!
glenn

7 days ago
Happy New Year Planeteers!
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Funk–just curious. Why don’t you think Trump stands a chance in caucus states?
glenn

7 days ago
Murph, he is certainly finally hiring people, but that’s a lot different.
funksands

7 days ago
Hey Sabreen–Happy New Year to you too! How are you?
glenn

7 days ago
Hi Sabreen.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Glenn I’m with you. I think Cruz is capable of anything. That really scares me.
funksands

7 days ago
Kitty!
funksands

7 days ago
HNY!
funksands

7 days ago
Good Friday evening, Planet peeps. The freedom fighters at the Oregon “Cowliphate” didn’t even make the evening news tonight. They’re slipping in their quest to out-Trump Trump in network coverage.
kesmarn

7 days ago
Funk – Yep, people can flirt with the obnoxious drunk guy in the silly season when no ultimate consequence is at stake…but with the nation and world in his hands? Nope, his support will stay with the small minority (as it is today anyway).
AdLib 7 days ago
Hello Kes
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Doing well glenn. Funk! It’s been a while.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Hey Kes! Evenin’!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey, Murph! And Sabreen and everyone!
kesmarn

7 days ago
Hi Sabreen! Happy New Years to you too!
AdLib 7 days ago
Funk…you really get around
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Glenn, I think Trump’s support is very broad, but not very deep. I don’t think that he’s attracting the really politically active on the right. The people that walk through a snowstorm to vote. That is the kind of voter that shows up and goes through the caucus process which is long, involved and takes a bit of dedication. A primary is the type of election that Trump will do better in.
funksands

7 days ago
Funk–you know the other day, cruz said he would “undo every unconstitutional executive order” that President Obama has made. I wrote on the comment section that he won’t undo any of the orders, because none of them are unconstitutional. I think he’s truly playing the rubes for suckers!
glenn

7 days ago
Hey Kes–happy new year!
glenn

7 days ago
Hi Kes, Murph, AdLib Escribacat. Looks like most of the gang is here.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Glenn, he’ll be able to do that on day 1. Executive orders only last until the next President decides to un-do them.
funksands

7 days ago
Hi Kes!
funksands

7 days ago
Hey, funk! Is Christie going to win there in NH?
kesmarn

7 days ago
I hate it when I confuse Mayans and Aztecs :-(
funksands

7 days ago
Funk..but his fans stand for hours hoping to get into one of his Trumptation Experiences….does that translate into caucus fever, and primary thrmbosis?
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Kes, Christie is at 5 percent in NH
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – I think Rubio is the only hope of the Establishment Repubs but despite the hype, he is an awful (thirsty) candidate. A hollow echo machine, regurgitating portions of stump speeches is all he can do…aside from demanding that women die in childbirth if giving birth is a risk.
AdLib 7 days ago
Funk–I think you missed my point. Cruz says he will undo every UNCONSTITUTIONAL exec. order. Since none of the orders are unconstitutional; I think he is leaving himself an out when he doesn’t do it. Of course, it’s a moot point beause he will never be elected president!
glenn

7 days ago
Kes — “cowliphate” hilarious!
escribacat

7 days ago
So that endorsement from the Manchester Union isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on.
kesmarn

7 days ago
Thanks, E
kesmarn

7 days ago
I wish I could take credit for making it up!
kesmarn

7 days ago
Well Kes, according to the Knotty Pine cuckoo clock, which has accurately predicted the last 20 winners of the NHampshire primary, he won’t.
funksands

7 days ago
Hi Sabreen!
escribacat

7 days ago
All ther hype about Christie is such BS. He isn’t going to win in NH and where does he do well after NH? Nowhere! He’s a Rudy Giuliani, he has no prospects to win anywhere but in his fat head.
AdLib 7 days ago
AD…I watched the crowd at a Rubio event….no excitement….no heart…no emotion…
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Glenn Cruz also said he would eliminate the IRS. Does anyone take that seriously?
escribacat

7 days ago
Kes–I still don’t understand why the elder bundy hasn’t been arrested; not to mention his stupid spawns!
glenn

7 days ago
Glenn, you might be right. I could see that kind of shifty spinelessness from him
funksands

7 days ago
A big from me to on Kes’ “cowliphate”!
AdLib 7 days ago
BRB foks.
glenn

7 days ago
glenn, I wonder about that too! There were guns pointed at federal officers in that Bundy stand off. That’s a crime!
kesmarn

7 days ago
Primary thrombosis! Lol
funksands

7 days ago
I was just reading an article about the next-to-zero amount of resources the Dept. of Homeland Security has to investigate home grown right wing terrorism.
kesmarn

7 days ago
By not arresting the Bundy domestic terrorists gives others a free hand to do same, IMO.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
As many have mentioned, having the Bundys and other militant morons like Tarp Guy exhiling themselves to frozen lands…works for me! Please, stay there until all your demands are met!
AdLib 7 days ago
exiling that is!
AdLib 7 days ago
The Southern Poverty Law Center is saying the same thing, Sabreen.
kesmarn

7 days ago
Kes, Glenn REGARDING Oregon……one of the best posts I read is from an attorney who has compiled a very long list of crimes for those occupying that federal building. It is his theory that they are going to let the thing whimper out and then make a number of arrests some therea and some when they go home and then throw the book at them. Many felonies here which means when they get out…no guns.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
AdLib, there’s also the “laughing-stock-factor.” They’re making themselves look more ridiculous by the day.
kesmarn

7 days ago
Be back in a bit
funksands

7 days ago
It may take a terrible militia attack to finally turn the Feds to a zero tolerance of them. But they really undercut themselves with this stupid “stand”.
AdLib 7 days ago
That’s a great point, Murph. As convicted felons, their gun rights go bye-bye.
kesmarn

7 days ago
I hear that they’re starting to physically fight with each other now too. Which only adds to the loss of cred on their part.
kesmarn

7 days ago
Those guys obviously don’t have jobs.
escribacat

7 days ago
Murph – The Sheriff up there said basically that, he at least said he would arrest them once the takeover is done. The Feds should do so though to send a message to would be copycat militias that a price will be paid.
AdLib 7 days ago
I was thinking the same thing, e’cat! And some of them have young kids at home. Nice time of the year to run away from the wife and kiddies… Cabin fever and a jillion dirty diapers? Or hang with my militia buddies and drink beer? Hmmmm….decisions, decisions….
kesmarn

7 days ago
A mini poll, who here is strongly concerned by the threat of ISIS to Americans?
AdLib 7 days ago
NOT ! These Oath Keeper types worry me more.
kesmarn

7 days ago
Kes, I read that they were asking for snacks
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Trump supporters scare me a whole lot more than ISIS
escribacat

7 days ago
Sabreen one of them ran off with a bunch of donations and started drinking in a local hotel, which inspired another true believer to break down in tears. All kinds of drama.
escribacat

7 days ago
Ad….the sherriff claims his parents have been followed by those sympathizing with the “patriots.”
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I heard that too, Sabreen! A whole forest full of critters and a jillion guns but they need juice boxes and Doritos.
kesmarn

7 days ago
Kes – The world is wonderful and it has its dangers. Murders in the US however have gone down year after year, murders of cops have gone down. More people die from eating McDonalds than ISIS. Now, if ISIS opened a fast food chain?
AdLib 7 days ago
e’cat – really? Geez! I also read the Native American community is really pissed and others in the community are scared b/c of all the guns.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Ad–I’m definitely more afraid of trump and cruz and their supporters than I am of ISIS. And, possibly the governor of MI, who has “accomplished” the feat of poisoning a whole town; which is an ISIS wet dream! (no pun intended)
glenn

7 days ago
There’s a Muslim family in Toledo who owns a furniture store… lots of very comfy recliners and couches. All that couch-potato inactivity is more lethal than ISIS.
kesmarn

7 days ago
A local NA tribe told them to buzz off. They are concerned about some artifacts stored in those buildings.
escribacat

7 days ago
Ad Lib…the greatest threat that ISIS has for the U.S. is that the fear of the boogeyman will create a witch hunt here and engender war fever.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
escrib – I think that it’s horrible that any innocent people are murdered. But put into perspective, it is a relatively few Americans who have been murdered by believers in Islamic extremism as opposed to just about any other group that murders. So why should the nation panic over ISIS and not panic over the many more murders by white Christians?
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–I think you answered your own question…murders by WHITE christians! They’re white, dontcha know, so they’re really not terrorists!
glenn

7 days ago
Murph – And they had to close schools for a week due to concerns of violence. Want to piss off a community? Keep their kids needing care during the week.
AdLib 7 days ago
…not terrorists or murderers because they have jeebus on their side!
glenn

7 days ago
Yes, the figures don’t justify the terror here about ISIS. If the media began printing the daily names of people killed in gun violence, what would happen?
escribacat

7 days ago
AdLib – Fear of the brown & black. You tell folks that 85% of whites are killed by other whites and they put their fingers in their and it’s lalalalalalalalal
Sabreen60

7 days ago
In their “ears”
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Sabreen–before they put their fingers in their ears, they shout “Chicago!”, and “black on black crime”!
glenn

7 days ago
Ad I watched that town meeting with the sheriff and that crowd looked like a Trump crowd…..but man were they pissed at “the patriots.”
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Sabreen most of these people are so stupid they don’t even know whom they hate. They go after Sikhs. A Sikh was murdered the other day by some rightwing extremist.
escribacat

7 days ago
Murph – You nailed it! I’m really stunned at how Republicans basically advertise what cowards they are then overcompensate with threatening fantasy-based ideas of destroying those they’re terrified of. Reasonable Americans don’t get terrified in the first place so they don’t see the need for going nuts.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad…on the same page.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph–can anyone explain to me who you can call yourself a “patriot” when you’re fighting against your own government? Isn’t the term for a person like that an “anarchist? (sp?)
glenn

7 days ago
e’cat – I remember Sikhs were killed by someone who thought they were Muslim.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Glenn…they are “real Americans” and not sympathizers with big government that has seized their land.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
glenn, someone compared the militia people to Occupy and I mentioned that there’s a difference between fighting FOR justice as opposed to against it.
kesmarn

7 days ago
Murph–but it wasn’t their land to begin with. Those ranchers that went to jail own thousands of acres of their own; the land they torched was never their land, even before the federal government took it over.
glenn

7 days ago
Right. They say they want that “government land” to be returned “to the people.” But the people own it now! They want to privatize it.
kesmarn

7 days ago
Kes – One of the dumb tweeted that he/they were like Rosa Parks. Twitter tore him a new one.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Kes–I agree, but the sad part is that the “patriots” don’t know the difference. And, excuse me, but if it’s federal land, then it’s MY land, too, since I pay my federal taxes, unlike the “patriots”.
glenn

7 days ago
But they claim it is their land….by homesteader logic.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Sabreen – That’s what annoys me about the term “straight talk” being applied to the racist propaganda from Trump and most of the GOP. We could really use some reality-based straight talk about how most serial killers and mass murderers are white and Christian. All those scary black and brown people aren’t shooting up schools and serial killing like white people are. But, that kind of “straight talk” would never be listened to.
AdLib 7 days ago
Good for Twitter, Sabreen! What an insult to Rosa Parks!
kesmarn

7 days ago
Murph–so if I go out west to “homestead” some land, these “patriots” would have no problem with that?
glenn

7 days ago
Glenn….oh no…they are already there
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
glenn – It’s the same logic of how RW extremists claim to be pro-life but support Stand Your Ground murders of innocent people and of course executions. Hypocrisy is what they’re all about, insisting other people betray their beliefs while living that lie in denial their whole lives.
AdLib 7 days ago
By that logic, the land belongs to the local native American tribe.
escribacat

7 days ago
I think the Paiutes would agree, e’cat.
kesmarn

7 days ago
Murph, IOW, “first come, first served?”
glenn

7 days ago
Ad–I know, hypocrisy is their name, alright. It’s amazing that these people who complain about Obama taking away their rights have no problem with taking away the rights of others!
glenn

7 days ago
I’m really beginning to think many on the right are sociopaths. They even man fun of PBO’s tears when he talked about the 20 little kids who were slain. They have no feelings for adults or kids. They could care less that 30,000 people die from guns each year. And they certainly don’t care that those of us who pay Fed taxes own the land they are squating on.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Glenn…that is a good extension to their thinking.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
‘made fun’ – my typing sucks.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Murph–do you remember that movie years ago with Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman where they showed how the “homesteaders” raced each other to the west when the government “opened up” the west? These people are nothing but land grabbers (grubbers) whose ancestors just grabbed the land. And are still making money off of MY land!
glenn

7 days ago
Sabreen–not to worry; we knew what you meant.
glenn

7 days ago
These militia types have a fictional history of America they imagine. And they lie when confronted. That Bundy son lied and said that the Feds had taken away the land they have from farmers, just came in and took it. Truth is, due to overfarming and climate, the farmers went into bankruptcy and the Feds helped out by buying their farms to set up a national park. Proof, these “Patriots” are just small minded, hateful liars who have constructed a phony scenario to make themselves feel moral when they knwo deep down they are immoral and losers.
AdLib 7 days ago
And yet the right is totally OK with militia men sitting behind the wheels of their cars and weeping real tears of self pity and drama queen histrionics.
kesmarn

7 days ago
Glenn…Far and Away….a good film with a good lesson.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph–except the “militia” haven’t learned the lesson, and as Ad says, have created their own history to suit their agenda.
glenn

7 days ago
Sabreen — that was so disgusting what the idiots on Fox News said about Obama’s tears for the little kids. I was in tears watching him. It was an incredibly moving moment when he did that. Wow, I still get chills. But Andrea Tantaros on Fox said he had an onion and the others made fun of it!!! Imagine.
escribacat

7 days ago
Ad….another angle put to the side is that a lot of the land has always been Fed since the days of the territories – in the midwest it was farmable and scooped up. In the west a lot of it wasn’t and remained unclaimed wilderness.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Those assholes really are sociopaths. They are emotionally stunted.
escribacat

7 days ago
Sabreen – Yes, it has become an exercise in blind, maniacal hatred to see those on the RW attack Obama for showing compassion for murdered children. And in doing so, they show their own lack of humanity…which for Repubs, seems to be a plus. They hate minorities, the poor, women, anyone who believes differently, etc.
AdLib 7 days ago
If crying over murdered children is offensive to someone, that person needs a mental health professional.
kesmarn

7 days ago
Trevor Noah had a great piece on the Obama gun speech and his tears.

escribacat

7 days ago
And in the meantime Obama is crusing right along empowered by so many of his initiatives, by his restraint, by his style, by his boldness and by the madness on the right.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
escrib – Thanks for posting that, saw it and appreciated it.
AdLib 7 days ago
e’cat – I meant to watch this video. Someone put the link on Twitter.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
I am sort of, kind of warming up to Trevor, but not that much….still a good segment.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Scat–The tarantula (Andrea Tantaros) said it was unbelievable that President Obama would cry over that. I thought Trevor Noah’s response was spot on. He said, “Are you f**king kidding me? Shedding tears when you think of murdered children is not really believable? You know what, there is something here that’s not really believable: the fact that the rest of us have to share the title of human being with you.”
glenn

7 days ago
Murph – People are really going to look back on the Obama days as amazing days. He has accomplished more for a majority of Americans than any President since Johnson.
AdLib 7 days ago
Scat–great minds think alike!
glenn

7 days ago
Glenn LOL. It really was a great line, what Noah said.
escribacat

7 days ago
Murph–I agree about Trevor. But that segment was definitely spot on! It was a Jon Stewart-worthy moment, IMO>
glenn

7 days ago
Well said, Trevor!
kesmarn

7 days ago
Ad — that’s exactly what I was thinking when I watched Obama’s gun speech the other day. I thought how much I would miss him and how lucky we’ve been to have him and how we’re not likely to get another one as great as he is.
escribacat

7 days ago
Murph – Trevor is fine. He’s not remarkable, a bit shallow (too many dick jokes and mocking of people), The Daily Show is not a must-watch anymore but he does have some clever segments at times. He is a terrible interviewer though, I usually skip the interviews.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad…with you. I am so glad I got the chance to work for his 2008 campaign as much as I did and for the ACA.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Ad…your description of Trevor is not very fine
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
On that note, I’m going to call it a night. Early meeting tomorrow, so I will bid good-bye to you all. Have a good weekend, a good week, and hope to chat with you all next week. As usual, you all made my week! Cheers!
glenn

7 days ago
Night glenn, hope your meeting goes well!
AdLib 7 days ago
Taaa Taaa Glenn!
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Night Glenn
escribacat

7 days ago
My 93 year old Dad has Alzheimer’s but one thing he has said several times is: “I don’t think we’re going to be lucky enough to get another Obama in my remaining life time!”
kesmarn

7 days ago
Murph – That is real valuable history you got to be a part of.
AdLib 7 days ago
G’night, glenn!
kesmarn

7 days ago
Kes…your Dad is very bright.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Thanks, Murph! He still has some very clear moments!
kesmarn

7 days ago
Murph – Well, Trevor is fine on my scale. Fine is average, above it is good and excellent. And above them is Jon Stewart.
AdLib 7 days ago
Kes – That is pretty cool for him to have that as a strong belief.
AdLib 7 days ago
Night glenn. I’m right behind you. Good night everyone. Take care and stay safe.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Well, kids, I’d better sign off too. The dear son is visiting from Madison and the clock is ticking… Gotta get that quality time in. Have a great weekend.
kesmarn

7 days ago
G’night, Sabreen!
kesmarn

7 days ago
Night Sabreen, happy New Year!
AdLib 7 days ago
Night Kes! How cool, have a great time with your son!
AdLib 7 days ago
Will do! Gonna miss him when he goes back!
kesmarn

7 days ago
Nite Kes, nite Sabreen…..
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Kes – I’m already starting to imagine what that will be like!
AdLib 7 days ago
So Murph, things have been and continue to be happening in MO, you’re right in the middle of so much.
AdLib 7 days ago
Well, it has been fun dumping on the trumping, crushing the cruz….but I need to run…..
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Catch you later, Murph!
AdLib 7 days ago
Well, it’s about that time then to wrap Vox for the night. Cheers escribacat, great to see you tonight!
AdLib 7 days ago
Good night Adlib. It’s going to be a long year!!
escribacat

7 days ago
Night Ad! Thanks for manning the ship
funksands

7 days ago
Long but never boring! Night Escrib!
AdLib 7 days ago
nigh tnight folks
escribacat

7 days ago
Night Funk!
AdLib 7 days ago
Night E-cat
funksands

7 days ago
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My motto is, "It is better to have blogged and lost hours of your day, than never to have blogged at all."

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