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AdLib On November - 27 - 2015
Hope you had a wonderful Thanksgiving! Like a delicious day-after turkey sandwich with the fixins’, Vox Populi begins tonight at 7:00pm PST. We’re having a Black Friday sale on wit so get here early before the crowds!
AdLib 7 days ago
Where
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Where’s my $30.00 60″ LCDTV??
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Seee you all soon
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
At PovBay!
AdLib 7 days ago
Don’t forget to say “Hi” or “Happy Thanksgiving Leftovers!” when you arrive!
AdLib 7 days ago
Just checking in to see if we have a quorum
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Hey Murph! Never know on the day after Thanksgiving, many may still be under the influencce of tryptophan.
AdLib 7 days ago
It is true…Been checking in on the Co. Shooting (yep another one)…several dead, many injured.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Not a lot of details yet, I’m afraid that it’s probably just what PP and many of us have been saying, that the demonizing of them will set off the mentally unstable on the far right.
AdLib 7 days ago
And consider that if the killer was Muslim, this would be called an act of terrorism but since he was white and probably Christian, it won’t be.
AdLib 7 days ago
CNN invited Rep. Adam Kizinger (R.-Ill.) – PP hater and proponent of “the videos” to comment in a segment this afternoon….he basically said that PP conduct revealed by the videos may have triggered someone who was mentall unstable.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
What human garbage. Their RW machine put out that propaganda, the Repub politicians pumped it out day in and day out then of course, they blame the victim of their hate speech.
AdLib 7 days ago
That is them alright…..
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
The hypocrisy of the GOP has become very tiring. They’re supposedly the party of patriotism but they do all they can to undermine America’s President and care for our military. They call themselves pro-life but they happily whip up hatred towards their “enemies” that inspires their followers to kill.
AdLib 7 days ago
And Trump, despite the widespread dismay in GOP circles about his success, is the perfect mascot for them.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Apparently, being “pro-life” in the GOP doesn’t extend to the majority of pro-choice Americans themselves.
AdLib 7 days ago
No- they are underserving.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I think Trump’s success and hopefully, his nomination for the GOP, is a needed step for the GOP to be severely damaged until they overcome the extremists.
AdLib 7 days ago
Undeserving…I am realizing that I am really tuckered out. My usual dinner for 40 plus, church services, family baskets for the needy….
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Wow, sounds like you had quite an evening! But that brought a lot of Thanksgiving to so many!
AdLib 7 days ago
Trump will be stopped – and I do not see his popularity growing, just holding….even as Carson fades…but Cruz is rising now…..
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Cruz is hardly much better than Trump. He’s disliked by a majority of the GOP Establishment, Indies and of course Dems. He has no better chance in a GE.
AdLib 7 days ago
Rubio came out to say he opposes Roe v. Wade and wants it overturned, he’s not going to attract much of the indie vote. The GOP is SOL.
AdLib 7 days ago
I suspect you are correct……well friend….I am falling asleep here so I am going to call it a night. …I am glad that Vox continues to flow most weeksand that you continue to make it a quality experience for our crew. WIshing you and yours the best.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Thanks Murph! Have a Happy Thanksgiving weekend! And get some rest!
AdLib 7 days ago
Are you going to hang out here for a while?
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Yep, sometimes on the day after T-Day, folks come later.
AdLib 7 days ago
Maybe I will stop by after a shower…..I may perk up!
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Okay, hope to see you a little later. Ah, here’s glenn!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey glenn!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey Ad–had a little trouble getting on the site tonight. What’s up with that?
glenn

7 days ago
glenn – Don’t know, what was happening when you tried to get to the site? Was it just not coming up?
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad….and Glenn…it took me three tries to get on.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – What happened when you tried to get on?
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey CL!
AdLib 7 days ago
The site would not load.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Hi- I also had trouble logging in. System must be overloaded with turkey! Hi everyone!
choicelady

7 days ago
Hey AdLib – good to see you.
choicelady

7 days ago
Hmm…I will look into that, sorry all!
AdLib 7 days ago
Did everyone have a nice Thanksgiving?
AdLib 7 days ago
Well – we’re here. That’s good.
choicelady

7 days ago
Ad–took a while to come up; then when it did come up, it said it wasn’t “live” (Vox wasn’t showing up) so I had to click to get it off the cloud or something.
glenn

7 days ago
CL – Absolutely!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey CL! Hey Murph, glad you came back
glenn

7 days ago
glenn – Thanks, that’s helpful! Gives me an idea on where to start looking to resolve that.
AdLib 7 days ago
AdLib – yes – very nice. Had 8 homeless neighbors in. They cooked the turkey on a gas grill one found in a rich area and wheeled back here. The owner was upgrading and let him take it. GREAT turkey roast!
choicelady

7 days ago
AdLib – how was your T’giving?
choicelady

7 days ago
CL – Cool! That sounds like the real spirit of Thanksgiving all the way around!
AdLib 7 days ago
We had a pretty diverse group although only one partly First Nations person, but it was fun.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL–good on ya!
glenn

7 days ago
glenn – hope you had a good Thanksgiving?
choicelady

7 days ago
CL – Thanks for asking! Very enjoyable, had a very nice dinner with the family AND my mother’s new boyfriend (manfriend? Using “boy” on someone of a certain age is kind of silly).
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–my niece lives in CA, and she posted a facebook picture of a rainbow after rain. Are you all finally getting some rain?
glenn

7 days ago
AdLib – sounds wonderful, and yes, what DO we call ‘significant others’ at your mother’s age?
choicelady

7 days ago
glenn – The rain bypassed where we are in LA but we drove through a bit of it on the way home from T-Day dinne.
AdLib 7 days ago
dinner
AdLib 7 days ago
CL – Good question! “Senior Friends”? Though that sounds close to “Superfriends”.
AdLib 7 days ago
glenn – northern CA got a lot though not right here in Sacramento. Lots where it counts, though – around the reservoirs. That all helps. It’s going to be below freezing – mid 20s – next three nights which was NOT predicted. More rain next week.
choicelady

7 days ago
So yes, my mother dated an elderly superhero.
AdLib 7 days ago
AdLib – Friend. Good on your Mom for picking a Superhero. Wise woman.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL – He can leap into an Early Bird dinner booth in a single bound!
AdLib 7 days ago
How old is your mother? I have a friend in her 90s who still dates.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL–My t’giving was good. The previous day wasn’t so good. My mother passed away on Wed., which was also the day of what would have been my 49th wedding anniversary. Although my mother’s passing was “expected”, it was still sad and made me miss my husband more than usual. Spent most of that day crying, but got most of it out, and had a very nice t’giving with my daughter, her friends, and six kids! Being around kids always cheers me up!
glenn

7 days ago
CL – In her 80’s.
AdLib 7 days ago
Oh glenn – I am SO sorry on all counts. That’s so NOT fair and incredibly hard. I cannot imagine all the emotions you’ve been experiencing. I’m sorry that happened to you.
choicelady

7 days ago
Very sorry to hear that glenn.
AdLib 7 days ago
AdLib – your mother is still YOUNG by today’s ideals. Good for her for keeping up a lively social life!
choicelady

7 days ago
Losing someone around the holidays is very difficult. Hope you’re holding up alright, glenn.
AdLib 7 days ago
He Murph – you there? I hope you had a good Thanksgiving?
choicelady

7 days ago
Ad–your mom sounds a lot like mine–in her younger days, at least. She had six husbands, and even had a “boyfriend” when she first went into her nursing home. More power to those old broads!
glenn

7 days ago
OBP – Old Broad Power!!!
choicelady

7 days ago
Anyone following Colorado Springs? I am blasted by this horror.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL – Yes, she is very young for her age. She has some issues but is doing pretty well considering. Just happy she found a companion, she’s been without a man in her life for decades.
AdLib 7 days ago
AdLib – then she is well and truly ready for good companionship. She’s earned it!
choicelady

7 days ago
Thank you CL and Ad. She was 89 years old and had lived a full life, but it’s still hard to take. Not trying to put a damper on anyone’s day, but next I have to get through Christmas, because my husband passed away on Dec. 27th. Once again, I’m so thankful for my daughter, granddaughter, and my wonderful son-in-law. They always get me through these dark days.
glenn

7 days ago
glenn – How cool! I think our moms do have a lot in common, she only had two hubbies but had a number of boyfriends afterwards. Definitely very cool! So hard for women as they get older to meet men because the “good” ones their age usually want younger women.
AdLib 7 days ago
glenn – I remember your saying your husband had died near Christmas. That does make it extra hard. I am glad you have such a good family! Our thoughts are with you.
choicelady

7 days ago
AdLib – I’m happy for your Mom!
choicelady

7 days ago
Ad–also, as women get older, there are not many “good” men left.
glenn

7 days ago
glenn – that’s the truth! But many men like the companionship of their peers, so it’s worth waiting for that.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL–thanks for your thoughts. I’ll stop with my tale of woe now.
glenn

7 days ago
glenn – if you can’t talk about your feelings here, then where CAN you? We care a lot about you!
choicelady

7 days ago
glenn – I had a grandparent pass away on Christmas Day, my mother’s father. Christmas was hard for her for many years. It never goes away completely but it does get better with time.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ooops – I think we lost glenn. Is the system eating us alive?
choicelady

7 days ago
I hope not! Ah, glenn’s back!
AdLib 7 days ago
glenn’s back!
choicelady

7 days ago
Well I cannot stay long – the homeless folks socialize in the back since they get arrested if they sit in the park, but I’m hearing evidence of too MUCH good cheer out there. Not everyone handles the libations well.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL – Yes, Murph and I were discussing the attack on Planned Parenthood earlier. Just awful and instead of the Repubs taking responsible for the deaths their hate mongering has whipped up, one Repub Rep blamed PP for having been exposed by the bogus videos for doing horrible things.
AdLib 7 days ago
I’m back! Ad, you’re right; it does get better with time. As my granddaughter gets older, though, and is turning into such a beautiful person inside and out, it makes me so sad that he will never get to watch her grow up. He was so crazy about her and my daughter, too.
glenn

7 days ago
CL – Yipe! Time to pass around the coffee?
AdLib 7 days ago
Typical GOP. Make up a lie then use it to justify murder. Three dead today – one officer, two civilians. Apparently the clinic has a ‘safe room’ for just these types of events. How dreadful. I am blasted by this.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL–oops–as Ad says, better get out the coffee!
glenn

7 days ago
They have a coffee pot out there – we have a mini kitchen set up – but it’s not sometimes enough. They promise not to drink, but…
choicelady

7 days ago
They are all smart and talented people from landscapers to poets, but the Demon Rum remains a factor now and then.
choicelady

7 days ago
glenn – That is sad, when you love a child or grandchild and they’re growing up, going through new things and maturing, you do really want to share that.
AdLib 7 days ago
CL–besides the fact that this terrorist killed and wounded so many people, I am ticked off by the headlines that came up on my news feed: “Gunman at abortion clinic”. Planned Parenthood is not an abortion clinic; it’s a woman’s health center! And these dumb-ass repubs who continue to push lies just push me over the edge. Too much death!
glenn

7 days ago
glenn – as one who has known three people hurt or killed at clinics, I am right there with you.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL – That’s very interesting, didn’t assume that but of course, homelessness can hit many, especially those addicted to alcohol or drugs.
AdLib 7 days ago
CL–as many commenters have posted, how can you callyourself “pro-life” if you want to kill people who don’t agree with you?
glenn

7 days ago
AdLib – most of the 8 neither drink nor do drugs, but two who do can be a handful.
choicelady

7 days ago
glenn – And also, they refer to him as a gunman but as I mentioned earlier, had a Muslim man done this at a different place in the name of ISIS, it would be called terrorism.
AdLib 7 days ago
CL–Forgive me for not remembering, but are you alone, or do you have help with your guests?
glenn

7 days ago
glenn – it’s in the DNA of religious fundamentalists to separate the ‘innocent’ from the ‘sinful’. What is new is the relatively recent determination that these fanatics have the RIGHT to kill prochoice people. That’s mind boggling.
choicelady

7 days ago
Ad–he is a terrorist, aided and abetted by trump, the gop, and fox news!
glenn

7 days ago
glenn – well, I’m not alone, but help? Define that, LOL!!! My husband is pretty good with them, but he doesn’t interact as much as I do.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL–I get separating the innocent from the sinful; but doesn’t the bible say, “Vengence is mine, saith the lord?” Somehow I remember that bible verse from childhood.
glenn

7 days ago
CL – Good point, they are motivated more by their version of “innocent” than by being pro-life. After all, they want to emulate the vengeful God of the Old Testament, not the teachings of Jesus about love, peace and compassion.
AdLib 7 days ago
glenn – I now understand that for the zealots, the Bible, like the Constitution, is “just a piece of paper”. They seriously think their judgment prevails, and they are anointed to be able to do anything they like.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL–okay, “help” is defined as being there for you, so that’s good. How’s that?
glenn

7 days ago
AdLib – for Christians (in name only) they sure love them their tribal rules and Old Testament smiting!
choicelady

7 days ago
glenn – If a Muslim cleric preached hate against Christians the way the Repubs do against PP, and one unhinged man acted out against Christians, he would not be called a gunman but a terrorist.
AdLib 7 days ago
glenn – well, he participates and occasionally talks with them, but he mostly leaves cleaning up the occasional loud aftermath of holiday celebrating to me.
choicelady

7 days ago
AdLib – I will say the Twitter universe sees this guy as a TERRORIST. That’s a good step forward even if CNN cannot bring themselves to say it.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL–I don’t get that any more than you do. IOW, they’re putting themselves in god’s place, and isn’t that against what Jesus taught, too? I know, I know, we can’t apply logic or even the bible to fundies. They make up their own rules as they go along, or by whatever the voices in their head tell them. Not to mention what the hateful gop politicians we have nowadays.
glenn

7 days ago
…what the hateful gop politicians tell them.
glenn

7 days ago
glenn – they see themselves as ‘God’s little helpers’. It’s pernicious but they believe God wants them to kill the baddies.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL–much like “santa’s helpers” I guess. Sure wish they’d give presents instead of bullets, though.
glenn

7 days ago
CL – There should be a different term for the religion of those who primarily follow the God of Vengeance in the Old Testament instead of Jesus, maybe “Testamentarians”?
AdLib 7 days ago
But not Christians!
AdLib 7 days ago
glenn – that would require them to have hearts, wouldn’t it?
choicelady

7 days ago
Ad–maybe testamenterrorists?
glenn

7 days ago
CL – That’s good to hear that on Twitter their calling him a terrorist but I’ll guarantee you that term won’t ever come out of a Republican’s mouth.
AdLib 7 days ago
AdLib – I call them that: Old Testamentarians. That’s to distinguish them from Jews who actually, you know, THINK about what it all means.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL–just goes to show how closely the brain and the heart are related. If you don’t have a brain, you don’t have a heart, and if you don’t have a heart, your brain is seriously lacking!
glenn

7 days ago
glenn – “Testaculls”?
AdLib 7 days ago
AdLib – nope. No white faux Christian will ever be labeled that way. Only Tim McVeigh was, and you can find few GOP who will continue to call him that.
choicelady

7 days ago
Ad–tha’s a good one!
glenn

7 days ago
AdLib – too funny!
choicelady

7 days ago
CL – Very cool that you refer to them in that way. Their views have nothing much to do with the teachings of Jesus.
AdLib 7 days ago
Or maybe an edit on that, “Testicultists”?
AdLib 7 days ago
Jesus is just the ‘get out of free’ card they hope to play at death. If there is an ‘after’ I think they’re in for a big shock.
choicelady

7 days ago
CL–if there is an after, I hope they burn in it!
glenn

7 days ago
Folks – the noise level in the back requires attention. We don’t DARE let the neighbors get peeved and call the cops, so I need to go soothe the savage breasts among them. Glenn – I’m with you on the ‘after’ hot spot!!!
choicelady

7 days ago
CL – Which just continues to affirm my proposition that despite Repubs claiming to be the party of patriotism, pro-life and freedom, it’s all just Orwellian doublespeak.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–great edit.
glenn

7 days ago
HAve a good remaining weekend all – hope to see you next week for a more enduring talk. Be well!
choicelady

7 days ago
I am back….
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Go ahead, CL, take care of it and if you have time afterwards, please come on back!
AdLib 7 days ago
CL–goo soothe the savage beasts! Hope you are able to get some rest after the partying!
glenn

7 days ago
Hello Goodbye Murph – have to go!!! See you next week I hope.
choicelady

7 days ago
Hey Murph–did you have a nice shower?
glenn

7 days ago
CL….aw shucks!
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Glenn….never got there….got a call….
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – You can see above, we were continuing the discussion on the terrorist in CO.
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph–well, I’m glad you came back. We were just talking about the terrorist attack on the PP in CO. Ad has come up with a label for them: testacultists! Very clever, our Ad!
glenn

7 days ago
Ad….did a quick look over….find myself agreeing with the tenor of the remarks.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Testacultists? Reference?
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
CL has had to deal with some of the potentially violent RWs who go mental against PP.
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph – Old Testament extremists who ignore the teachings of Jesus and prefer the God of Vengeance mentality. Testacultists.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad and Murph–then we have the “responsible gun owner” in MS who shot a WaffleHouse waitress because she woldn’t let him smoke inside; and the sheriff right here in good old GA who put up a sign basically saying that anybody who doesn’t agree with him can get the hell out of his county!
glenn

7 days ago
Oh….OldTestaCultists….got it.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
There is much madness afoot.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
glenn – With the wealthy and special interests blocking Congress from following the desires of the people…and even common sense, it kind of feels like we are spectators to a kind of mass insanity perculating up from the RW across the country. And they are outgrowths of the hateful propaganda of the RW.
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph – I started out calling them just “Testaculls”.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–I know. I just don’t know where it will end. I did see that trump finally lost 15 points in the polls today. Maybe people are finally coming to their senses!
glenn

7 days ago
I had lunch last week with an old time GOP leader in my county who cannot stand the “new breed” in the GOP….a party built on anger, anxiety and fear that lashes out.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Glenn – what poll
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
OldTestaculls….I like
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph–had to look it up–Quinnipiac.
glenn

7 days ago
glenn – Always remember, Trump’s and Carson’s poll numbers come solely from Repub extremists. The MSM glosses over that and makes claims like they’re appealing to many in America. That’s BS. About 50% of the GOP supports Trump and Carson but that’s only about 15% of the voting public so it’s really such a small percentage of voters.
AdLib 7 days ago
Glenn…got a link…that would be fine.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph–i’s the old time gopers who are going to have to start speaking out forcefully against their hateful party members. Most of the time, the “faithful base” won’t believe a word libs say.
glenn

7 days ago
Ad….30 percent of the GOP votes in the primary; 30 percent of them have gone for Trump; the GOP are 30 percent of the electorate. So in a group of 100, Trump has 7 voters and Carson has 6.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
The old timers don’t have the power.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Just checked RCP and Trump is maintaining his numbers in the mid 20’s in most polls. That’s a good thing, nothing would demolish the GOP more than having Trump as their nom. Even Repubs will vote for the Dem then.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–I know. Of course, if we had a “liberal media”, they would be reporting that. It also gives the trump supporters the mistaken idea that they are the “majority”. Sad thing is, though, with so many states in repub control, they are majority of people who actually vote!
glenn

7 days ago
Murph – Right, just took 50% of 30% to get to 15% total of all American voters supporting Trump and Carson. Their support is so much more fractional in the big picture than any MSM outlet would let on because it’s bad for business.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–not sure that repubs would vote for the dem nominee, but at least they would stay home and not vote. And, once again, if the Dems come out in large numbers like they did in ’08 and ’12, then we can defeat the extremists by yuuuuge margins!
glenn

7 days ago
This entire story is hot stuff for media looking to meet their bottom line requirements….to make money you have to have interest so you build it however you can
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph–sigh–remember when news didn’t have to be “profitable”; it was just news?
glenn

7 days ago
glenn – Repubs do control a lot of state governments but first of all, the number of states is irrelevant, it’s how many electoral votes are probable Repub and Dem and Dems have a huge advantage, And some Repub states like FL, WI, MI and OH will probably go for the Dem despite Repubs holding the state governments. Gerrymandering helps them control states but that doesn’t affect national races.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–I get it. I just want these damn fascists to be defeated bigtime!
glenn

7 days ago
My regular reminder……the presidential race is important but if we do not retake the Senate and cut into the House majority while launching effective assaults in the states….the WH is not enough
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph–agreed.
glenn

7 days ago
glenn – Repubs voted for Bel Edwards, the Dem who ran in LA because Vitter was so disliked. That will happen if Trump is the Repub nom, when it comes to moderate Repubs. I do think that faced with a potential Repub President from the pack that’s running, Dems will be very motivated to vote in 2016.
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph – Sad but true, the profit motive for corporately owned media outlets outweighs honest news reporting.
AdLib 7 days ago
On that note, guys, I’m calling it a night. It’s been an emotional rollercoaster for me the past few days, and I’m just worn out. Always great chatting with you two. You make sense of this senseless world. Thanks, and have a wonderful weekend.
glenn

7 days ago
Great flurry of discussion and now I really am heading to showers….best to you both…..
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – When it comes to the SCOTUS nominations, the WH is enough to change the nation’s course. But you are right, we need The Senate back to get those noms through and cutting the numbers of Repubs in the House is important too.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–one more comment. Even if trump isn’t the repub nominee, I’m almost positive he’s going to run as an independent. He won’t give up the spotlight and attention easily. And if, as he says, the repubs don’t treat him “fairly” IOW give him the nomination, then he doesn’t have to “honor” the contract he signed.
glenn

7 days ago
G’night guys!
glenn

7 days ago
Nice chatting with you too, glenn. You’ve had to manage quite a bit but it sounds like you’ve stayed strong and gotten through it as best as anyone could. Sending you all the best!
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad….without the Senate all the WH can do is nominate very mediocre,leaning right Justices.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Until next time…
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – Exactly, we need the Senate back and I think we will get it back. The tide against a Trump, Cruz or Rubio would be very strong and the disillousionment of the GOP will depress turnout.
AdLib 7 days ago
Have a great weekend Murph!
AdLib 7 days ago
On that hopeful note….Senate YEAH!
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
With you on that!
AdLib 7 days ago
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