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AdLib On September - 25 - 2015
Vox Populi, our weekly live chat on the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. How influential is Vox Populi? Well, is it just a coincidence that John Boehner quit today before Vox started? I think not! Hope to see you then!
AdLib 7 days ago
Bu bye Bonher ya asshole.
Harleigh

7 days ago
hi harleigh
sillylittleme

7 days ago
hey slm.. looks like we are fashionably first.
Harleigh

7 days ago
yup and they let us in with no supervision
sillylittleme

7 days ago
well they left the vox bong loaded on the table. shall we?
Harleigh

7 days ago
spark it up
sillylittleme

7 days ago
aaahhhh not bad for cali local weed. here ya go….
Harleigh

7 days ago
hey murph
sillylittleme

7 days ago
cali – is got some fine medical
sillylittleme

7 days ago
The Pope is Here and Boehner is gone….all in all, a great week.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
stoned already…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Murph – woo hoo
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Hi to KT, SLM and Harleigh…..Where is the Ad Man?
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
yep…. now we get to see the baggers in full action in the house. lol
Harleigh

7 days ago
who knows I came here at ten of and it was eerily empty…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
me too…. aliens?
Harleigh

7 days ago
Hey Folks! Sorry about the delay!
AdLib 7 days ago
Harleigh…..the TP crowd will push for Price, I think but the establishment crowd wants McCarthy….but the wrinkle is that without the TP folks, 40 plus, the GOP cannot elect a Speaker without Dem. support…..hooooo boy!
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
no problem… nice weed man
Harleigh

7 days ago
Ad…we were about to hold a papal conclave to elect your successor!
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Hey Ad
sillylittleme

7 days ago
it will be a hoot…. hey lets ask Debbie for some votes!!! ROTF
Harleigh

7 days ago
well the smoke was white murph
Harleigh

7 days ago
Harleigh – what ya mean
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Ya Murph – and the ash too real clean smoke
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Harleigh…and you were almost our leader….you did win did you not!
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Slm- if you think Vox was eerie then, wait till Halloween!
AdLib 7 days ago
like murph said the repubes in the house don’t have enough votes on either side to elect a new speaker, puts Debbie Wasserman-schultz in the middle
Harleigh

7 days ago
Ad – ooh can we have tricks and treats?
sillylittleme

7 days ago
SLM – how to do a virtual fire at Vox
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Harleigh – I think Pelosi gonna take it again, nothing we need to get done will happen but they can pretend to do something not too harmful
sillylittleme

7 days ago
electric bong?
Harleigh

7 days ago
smoke and mirrors?
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Harleigh…or having to go to Nancy….wicked
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
SLM…Nancy as Speaker, how…..we could gridlock….how poetic that would be.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
The house is up for lots of shit… be sure to store up on popcorn. LOL
Harleigh

7 days ago
Trick or Trump!
AdLib 7 days ago
I heard on Al Jazeera that Paul Ryan is considering a run for Speaker. I’ve been smoking a lot of pot today, since hearing that…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
How much you wanna bet that some big lobbyist firm has a huge carrot hanging out there for Boehner on the condition that he quit now.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
ad- good one! Haloween is my second annivesary of a stroke. It’s scary when you wake up half paralized.
Harleigh

7 days ago
SLM Paul Ryan…..Romney’s running mate…..the author of the privatization of Medicare replacement for ACA….that Paul Ryan?
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Hey, hey, hey!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Boneher is going straight to the lobby, let’s all go to the lobby….
Harleigh

7 days ago
hey KT
Harleigh

7 days ago
What’s up Harleigh?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Murph – yup, it came from Michael Shure and I’ve never known him to exaggerate
sillylittleme

7 days ago
glad its friday man
Harleigh

7 days ago
Hey KT
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Why is Boehner leaving? Maybe because he’s tired of having to deal with a bumch of spoiled brats?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Hey slm.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
???????????????????
sillylittleme

7 days ago
KT – its getting cool at night, when you headed to the cape again?
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Hey KT!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey Ad. slm, I’ll be there on the 5th of Oct.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – did you request your absentee ballot? or are you gonna be home to vote in the primaries?
sillylittleme

7 days ago
i’m registered in Mass.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
i’ll miss the big vote in Ohio for weed legalization. I sure hope it passes.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
so, what is the orange man going to do with all his free time?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – are you gonna be here for the primary? I think we may have a referendum for full legalization. it may not be until Nov, or the legislature is gonna get it veto proof before year end.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
he’s going to the lobby
Harleigh

7 days ago
Drink wine and play golf? Oh wait, he’s been doing that for years now.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
So will Repubs blow up the House and their chances for 2016 now that Boehner is leaving?
AdLib 7 days ago
Yeah, I’ll probably be on the Cape for a few months.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – he’s gonna hang out with Jeb! until the tide takes them away
sillylittleme

7 days ago
One can only hope!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
AD…..the TP crowd will push for Price, I think but the establishment crowd wants McCarthy….but the wrinkle is that without the TP folks, 40 plus, the GOP cannot elect a Speaker without Dem. support…..hooooo boy!
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Wouldn’t it be cool if a Dem wins Boehner’s seat?
AdLib 7 days ago
they will put a bagger in charge for lots of meaningless votes and Benghazi!!
Harleigh

7 days ago
Ad….but very unlikely…..
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Ad, that’ll larn em.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad – from the interviews I’ve seen with the tea pukes, ya. they have no clue that they may hang before this is all over.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Some say Boehner’s leaving may prevent another shutdown.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
kT….it will prevent a shutdown…..there is no pressure on him now and he will use his powers to control the legislative process and go along with the Senate.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
If I were in the house I want them to put the biggest bagger dickhaid in as speaker to insure a flush of them next year.
Harleigh

7 days ago
does cruz really think he can pull another shutdown and still win the nomination? They say he’s really intelligent, but I’ve seen no evidence to support such a claim.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – unless there is a trick up someone’s sleeve, I think they won’t be able to help themselves
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Harleigh – except that a lot of people can’t take another fiscal hit…
sillylittleme

7 days ago

sillylittleme

7 days ago
The repubs don’t care SLM…
Harleigh

7 days ago
how’s Uncle Ben doing in the polls? I would think he’d be down a few points after this past week.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Harleigh – ya think?
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Who will replace him? The Three Front Runners: Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R.-Calif.) McCarthy is likely the safest and most likely pick. He’s currently serving as the House Majority Leader, meaning he’s already managed to win an election among his party-mates in the House. McCarthy has been in the House since 2007 and quickly rose in the leadership ranks within his caucus. He’s staunchly pro-life, but some more conservative Republicans will likely view him as an extension of Boehner’s establishment brand. Rep. Jim Jordan (R.-Ohio) Here’s where the more conservative members of the House may find their savior. Jordan has a history within the Tea Party. He won his 5th term in 2014 and has previously advocated for strong-arm tactics to fight back against the White House’s agenda. He was a leader in pushing for the 2013 government shutdown over Obamacare. For Republicans who want to use that tactic as a sledgehammer against President Obama (and possibly Hillary Clinton in the future), Jordan might be a logical choice. Rep. Tom Price (R.-Ga.) Price currently chairs the House Committee on the Budget and sits on the Ways and Means Committee, meaning he has the chops and experience to handle what is certain to be a difficult series of budget negotiations with the White House in the coming weeks. He’s also a member of the Tea Party Caucus while still maintaining strong ties to the establishment GOP in the House. In a Republican party clearly split between obstructionist Tea Party supporters and establishment politicians who are more likely to negotiate, Price could find support on both sides.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I think that they may back off for now, kick the can…
Harleigh

7 days ago
Damn Murph, you are one fast typist.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT….something I had at the ready.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Jordon is a moron, have you ever seen him in committee?
sillylittleme

7 days ago
oh, OK. I was going to say….
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Murph – comes prepared for debate!!
sillylittleme

7 days ago
SLM….actually I have been addressing this question at another site.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
slm, is that what we’re doing?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – no since DWS thinks it unnecessary
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Oh snap!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I kept hearing Gohmert today, but that was on C-Span. My guess, the baggers were given a script.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Murph – the MSM says it’s a fait accompli that McCarthy will be the new leader. You think the TP will fight for that position?
AdLib 7 days ago
ah yes, Gomer’s pile strikes again.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
The TP has no single candidate….this crowd can only negate and obstruct….
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I want Gomert or some really reall whackdoodle as speaker. Howdy gowdy comes to mind
Harleigh

7 days ago
I saw TP loons on Yahoo agreeing that they want Gohmert as leader.
AdLib 7 days ago
What about Gosar? Anti- Pope…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Oh boy, hide the sharp objects.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Gohmert/Gosar 2016!
AdLib 7 days ago
Elmer Fudd/Foghorn Leghorn
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
So, does this guarantee a debt default or shut down or both before the end of the year?
AdLib 7 days ago
one of them said the pope isn’t a real christian! LMAO. but it may have been carson. So many whackdoodles…
Harleigh

7 days ago
gosar the gosarian! Where’s the Gate Keeper?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Gotta find the Key Master…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Hell they may as well give Alex Jones Boehner’s job.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
or the precious!
Harleigh

7 days ago
AdLib 7 days ago
Who ya gonna call? GOPbusters!
AdLib 7 days ago
Well this nation will be undergoing a bit of an exorcism soon…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
christie can be the Sta-Puff marshmellow man!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
we better GOTV or die.
Harleigh

7 days ago
mid-terms mid-terms midterms! Hear that dems, you apathetic slime balls?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – Perfect!!!!
sillylittleme

7 days ago
This all actually makes my old campaign of Palin-Bachmann look kinda good.
Harleigh

7 days ago
KT – yup vote vote vote every single election!!!!
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Isn’t amazing that instead of at least respecting the Pope’s opinion but disagreeing, these Repubs attack the Pope like any Dem that says facts they don’t want to accept and demean him. How much lower can they go?
AdLib 7 days ago
Harleigh – scarily it seems sane…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
no shit
Harleigh

7 days ago
We seem to do OK for the presidential elections, but we suck at the mid-terms. That’s why we have all those nut bags in both houses now.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Hello, sorry I’m late.
monicaangela

7 days ago
I went by favorite local watering hole earlier this evening…..there was a table celebration how “Bama’s Boy Boehner got the Boot”
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Ad – I think when they get to the next level of conciousness, they’ll find out.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Hi Monica!! Long time!
Harleigh

7 days ago
Hey MA
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Monica…howdy doody!
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Hello Harleigh, hope all is well.
monicaangela

7 days ago
Hi SLM!!
monicaangela

7 days ago
i like the new avatar M.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Repubs are now anti-woman, anti-Latino, anti-immigrant, anti-poor and now, anti-Pope. Sounds like a winning platform
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey Murph, good to see you here.
monicaangela

7 days ago
Murph – really???? off the charts
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Hey Monicaangela!
AdLib 7 days ago
Thanks KT
monicaangela

7 days ago
Ad – they almost got everyone
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Monica…the same to you…Mega greetings.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
SLM…off the charts indeed
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Hey AdLib, it appears the repubs are also anti Speaker.
monicaangela

7 days ago
Slm – Everyone but rural white male racists. And they won’t bring you in a national election win.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad – they won’t even bring them enough votes for dog catcher
sillylittleme

7 days ago
AdLib, are you actually saying the the Christian Evangelical Republicans are attacking the Pope? Really.
monicaangela

7 days ago
MA – yup and they got a script
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Yeah M, the fundies don’t want no catlicks.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Question for any and all…..WHAT IS THE ATTRACTION OF THE POPE? Seriously, the crowds and the reaction, totally wild. Any thoughts.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Hi PPO
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – hope
sillylittleme

7 days ago
hey, everybody!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Hey Pink
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Monica the Pope isn’t a real christian…. where have you been girl?? LOL
Harleigh

7 days ago
SLM…thanks
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
not sure Murph. It’s always like that, with any pope.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
hey PPO
Harleigh

7 days ago
which one’s pink?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I wonder how they are going to sell their message to the evangelicals now. Are the going to confess the fact that they only care about religion when it comes to abortion and gay rights…not all of that Jesus Christ stuff.
monicaangela

7 days ago
Hello PPO!!
monicaangela

7 days ago
KT….this guy is getting more than his share, reminds me of JP II in the Reagan years…..
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
the pope is a libertard on the side of people and science and shit!
Harleigh

7 days ago
Yeah Murph. I guess people figure he’s the closet thing to Jeebus that they get to see while still living. Just a guess.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Harleigh, did I miss something, I could have sworn the Pope was confessing to believe in the teachings of Jesus. I guess I’ll have to watch his speak again.
monicaangela

7 days ago
KT – you never noticed? I always call PPO, Pink.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Monica….given that evangelicals are backing Trump I suggest that the evangelicals are like most GOP….willing to believe whatever is necessary to take down their enemy.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
harleigh, don’tcha know that the Pope id the AntiChrist?
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Harleigh..thanks
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Just kidding slm. That’s a line from a Pink Floyd song.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT…appreciated
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
MA – they’re confused on the issue of mammon. the Pope is with them on abortion, etc.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
I believe you are correct Murph. So that leaves me to wonder why so many church folk vote for the GOP.
monicaangela

7 days ago
Murph, it’s the abortion and gay marriage thing.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Monica…here in Mo…most church folk are ardently anti-abortion and that is a key.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
SLM, I guess being with them on abortion and gay marriage is not enough.
monicaangela

7 days ago
KT agree.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Mega church folk are not xtians, they are blind cultists
Harleigh

7 days ago
Besides, everyone knows those libs are godless heathens.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Murph, there in MO, and in most every other state many of those church folk have had abortions.
monicaangela

7 days ago
KT and that’s fine with me!
Harleigh

7 days ago
Me too Harleigh. I’m a Heathen, myself.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
So with Boehner gone, and Walker next in line, what do we think is going to happen to the Speakership in November after Boehner leaves?
monicaangela

7 days ago
Monica…but it was wrong! they have confessed their sin! they have embraced the Lord! Seriously- I think that in my neck of the woods abortion is very rare.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I’m heathen to the bone! muhahaha
Harleigh

7 days ago
Many religions are anti abortion, and anti gay marriage, until their adherents need them!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
You don’t get out much do you Murph.
monicaangela

7 days ago
MA – that was never the issue. I’d never have an abortion, but I don’t want the responsibility of my opinion on someone else’s life. that is why I am pro-choice. many of these anti-abortionists have actually had an abortion. they are hypocrites. they really only care about being rich or one day being rich.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Monicaangela- Yep, anti-speaker and anti-sanity.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ain’t it the truth PPO.
monicaangela

7 days ago
Monica….here are the contenders in the House….Who will replace him? The Three Front Runners: Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R.-Calif.) McCarthy is likely the safest and most likely pick. He’s currently serving as the House Majority Leader, meaning he’s already managed to win an election among his party-mates in the House. McCarthy has been in the House since 2007 and quickly rose in the leadership ranks within his caucus. He’s staunchly pro-life, but some more conservative Republicans will likely view him as an extension of Boehner’s establishment brand. Rep. Jim Jordan (R.-Ohio) Here’s where the more conservative members of the House may find their savior. Jordan has a history within the Tea Party. He won his 5th term in 2014 and has previously advocated for strong-arm tactics to fight back against the White House’s agenda. He was a leader in pushing for the 2013 government shutdown over Obamacare. For Republicans who want to use that tactic as a sledgehammer against President Obama (and possibly Hillary Clinton in the future), Jordan might be a logical choice. Rep. Tom Price (R.-Ga.) Price currently chairs the House Committee on the Budget and sits on the Ways and Means Committee, meaning he has the chops and experience to handle what is certain to be a difficult series of budget negotiations with the White House in the coming weeks. He’s also a member of the Tea Party Caucus while still maintaining strong ties to the establishment GOP in the House. In a Republican party clearly split between obstructionist Tea Party supporters and establishment politicians who are more likely to negotiate, Price could find support on both sides.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I have never had an abortion either slm, I am also pro choice, not because I believe someone should have an abortion, but because I don’t believe I have the right to tell them they can’t.
monicaangela

7 days ago
shit! If only Bachmann had stayed on…
Harleigh

7 days ago
Harleigh, she’s anxiously waiting for The Rupture!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Same, here, MA. As the Pope himself says, ‘Who am I to Judge?’ Well, if he ain’t, who is?
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Pink – the Jews for the most part gave up on much of the old testament. rejecting the negative and focusing on the positive. as with all religions, some haven’t progressed and are holding the rest back. the catholic church has needed a new millenial feel for far too long, as in they skipped an entire millenia. they are long overdue.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
McCarthy is a closet Tea Partier, and as you say hasn’t been in the house very long. I realize he is Majority leader, but I don’t think he’ll just walk into the speakership, not if the Tea Party crowd has anything to say about it.
monicaangela

7 days ago
slm, True, but the current crop of
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Me to KT, I can’t wait for jebus to remove all the assholes from the earth, I hope he drops them into the sun.
Harleigh

7 days ago
Monica—- in rural Mo. where there are virtually no abortion providers, and where the morality laid out by the preacher is pretty well accepted (which also permits the use of birth control…as long as the method is pre-conception)
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Christians’ don’t encompass the real message of Christ, namely that His is the NEW testament. They’re still stuck to the OLD
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
That’s correct PPO. That decision is between a woman, her partner, her God, and her conscience.
monicaangela

7 days ago
Harleigh – I hope he feeds them to the hungry polar bears
sillylittleme

7 days ago
but Murph, every sperm is sacred!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
SLM…depends on the Jews you are speaking of….both Conservative and Orthodox wrestle with the OT
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Pink – and worse they misinterpret it
sillylittleme

7 days ago
SLM might make the bears sick too
Harleigh

7 days ago
Murph, there was a time in this nation before Roe v Wade that all over the nation “there were no abortions” however, we had to go to court to get legislation passed, I think they called Roe v Wade….because there were no abortions, and somebody wanted there to be some.
monicaangela

7 days ago
SLM, Absolutely! and make a right Royal bags of it as well
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
KT…..I know there are those who say it but even in the fundamentalist circles that is generally snickered at.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
As it should be Murph.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Monica…..there were clearly many abortions, in part because there was so little birth control….again,I am speaking from my experience in Red Neck USA
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
not every orgasm deserves a name!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Murph – jewish conservatives are mostly the wealthy but not uber rich cafeteria style, the orthodoxy is more traditional, except their traditions are mostly eastern european. the hasidim are our worst, they are our taliban, evangelicals
sillylittleme

7 days ago
That is correct PPO. Somehow many who profess to be Christians, appear to have gotten really tired before they got to the end of the Old Testament. Funny thing is, why do they believe they are called Christians? I wonder…
monicaangela

7 days ago
If sperm is sacred I sure am responsible for lots of holy sheets.
Harleigh

7 days ago
Pink – love that phrase
sillylittleme

7 days ago
SLM..yes….but I am referring to the rabbinic teaching more than anythingelse.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
KT – the actual definition of rapture is orgasm, chew on that one a minute…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
I think Orthodox Jews are taught to always question.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Well, they are divine!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
murph – yes but population wise the rabbinate is small, it is always the followers that muck it up
sillylittleme

7 days ago
There were abortions, and there were no birth control pills at that time. They were performed by doctors for the wealthy and by practicioners, bad ones for those who couldn’t afford it, by the way, some used potions they drank to rid themselves of the pregnancy, some used coat hangers and the list goes on. In the south especially, these things occurred. Just because you didn’t hear about it doesn’t mean it wasn’t happening.
monicaangela

7 days ago
SLM…yes.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
KT – my point is that they are waiting for something they could be experiencing daily
sillylittleme

7 days ago
They probably do, they just try to hide it.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – true the orthodoxy are very argumentative and mysoginistic
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Murph, If Jesus actually returned and looked at all the Testaments, I’m sure he’d scratch his head and say: That’s not what I said at all! The guys who wrote this crap were playing Chinese Whispers for hundreds of years after I went!”
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
KT – no they are ashamed of it
sillylittleme

7 days ago
slm, that’s why they make good lawyers.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT LOL yes and no
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Pink – I think Matthew was closest to the truth.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
PPO….I don’t think it is that simple. This is one of my fields of study. Oral Tradition is real and there are mechanisms that weigh its veracity.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
probably not, Murph, but I wonder….
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
I believe you’re safe Harleigh, I don’t think the sperm becomes holy until it is introduced to an ovum.
monicaangela

7 days ago
Murph, are you saying the story of Jesus is true?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
brb
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
ovum, meet sperm, sperm meet ovum!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
PPO—-like I said a complex subject…
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
KT – its more like a squirmy invasion
sillylittleme

7 days ago
KT- at its core I think it is true…yes….but remember I am a Christian Humanist so I strip away the mythological elements added, I believe based on my study, as Christianity took on Roman Pagaism directly.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I think there probably was a wandering preacher named Jesus, but just a man. I’d like to know why there is an 18 year gap in his history.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
You know I kind of wonder about the stories in the Bible. Imagine the fact, that all of those stories were written long after the death of Jesus. Also imagine, that there were many stories that were exclueded from the Bible, then imagine, that somebody sat down and wrote those stories according to what he/she could remember. Also, think about the fact that most books written by women were excluded. Kind of makes you wonder if someone hasn’t pulled a fast one.
monicaangela

7 days ago
Murph – are you aware of the variants of paganism in the Roman Empire? There were so many cultures destroyed. Few acknowledge that the OT actually begins with Avram. All the rest of the beginning of Genesis is from a Sumerian text.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
well it’s not like I wasn’t doing my very best Monica!!! LOL
Harleigh

7 days ago
KT…the way I see it, Yeshua bar Yusef ben Nazrit was a carpenter burdened with a widowed mother (and therefore unable to marry given his station in Galiean Society) who had an awakening (rather like that of the Siddartha Gautama) in his middle age….and he set out to be a preacher like his cousin John.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
KT – I was taught that he was in the seminary, he became a rabbi and when he went home he got a real shock at how the people really lived. he tried to teach his people the scriptures in a way that would free them of oppression. we know how that worked out.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
I believe that alos KT, and as most people like you and others, I would like to know what happened during those years as well. Some say he traveled to places where those writing the stories had no contact with him. I’ve heard that during those years he traveled the world and that is how we came up with other religions…there are so many stories, it makes your head swim. Wonder if we will ever get the definitive answer.
monicaangela

7 days ago
SLM…Seneca notes that more than 200 cults were officially recognized by the imperium.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
SLM…there were no seminaries….
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I’m sure you were Harleigh, but you have to remember it takes two, even your very best can’t make the grade when it comes to holy sperm.
monicaangela

7 days ago
You all do realize that all the buy-bull books that get referenced were supposedly originally ‘written’ thousands and thousands of years ago way before Anglo-Saxons even existed, by non-white Middle Eastern brown men in now dead languages and that those were not their real original names right? Matt, Mark, Luke, John and Zeke?! Yeah right. More like Abdul, Habib or Omar. Most were wandering nomadic herdsmen with even less education than a 4 year old kid in Mississippi that also can’t read or write. Those ‘original’ storybooks were written by hand in a now dead language and transcribed and rewritten and re-interpreted by hand into other now dead languages dozens of times for dozens of different religions/sects or monestaries over the past 5,000 or so years resulting in massive disinformation to control the populations of those times. I got ‘THE WORD’ from a burning bush… or Hey! A talking snake told me…. blah blah blah. I remember decades ago that Jebus and the boys all rode dinosaurs along with Mathew, Mark, Luke and Zeke following Alley Oop around through the Middle East killing all those jungles and forests by tearing limbs off of trees, just as written in the buy-bull by all the phony prophets. All religions are businesses bumming money from suckers and should be taxed.
Harleigh

7 days ago
One theory about the missing years is that he went to the far east and learned of Buddhism, Confucianism and Taoism.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Harleigh….you are mixing the old and new testaments and even there the post-exilic writings are done by scholars
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – he went to the temple at jerusalem when he was bar mitzvah age, they recognized something in him. they taught him scriptures, he may have traveled around the world as well.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Then why are there so many versions?
Harleigh

7 days ago
That’s true KT, another is he met Mohammed and was also nothing more than a preacher at the time.
monicaangela

7 days ago
SLM….I don’t think so…..that story appears in one Gospel….and it is meant to speak of his seriousness but even there we are told that he returned to Nazareth with his parents andgrew in grace.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Harleigh – actually they were ancient israelites, muslims didn’t emerge until 500 years ago
sillylittleme

7 days ago
SLM….recall that bar mitvah was not a first century custom.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Wow Harleigh, great disertation regarding the actualities of what the Bible might say if it was written by the diciples…also, those names you wrote appear more like middle eastern names than what King James came up with.
monicaangela

7 days ago
WHAT?? You mean they were not all white people??!! ROTF, shit, Mrgyn Kelly lied.
Harleigh

7 days ago
Murph – I can’t discuss this with you if you keep shooting down what I was taught. This is what we as Jews learn about the man, the rabbi. He was no messiah, the messiah will bring peace.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Monica….my reading on this as well…..Matthew is of Hebrew origin. Its Hebrew form is Mattityahu (Matt-tee-YAH-hou), maning “gift of Yahweh” (God). Mark is a Latin name . Its Latin form is Marcus (MAR-koos), meaning “sea-green” or “hammer”.. Luke is a Greek name. Its Greek form is Loukas (LOO-kass), meaning from Lucania, a region in Italy. John is a Hebrew name. Its Hebrew form is Yochanan (Yoh-HAH-nan), meaning “Yahweh (God) is gracious”.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
yeah Harleigh, but Megan says Santa is definitely white.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Murph – and they didn’t do circumsion 8 days after birth in those days either.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
OUCH!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I left religion as a confirmed Episcopal when I was 13, never looked back.
Harleigh

7 days ago
SLM…..oh, I think he was a rabbi, a teacher, but I do not think he had formal training – nor do I think he clearly identified with any of the interpretive groups (Sadducees, Pharisees, Essenes, Zealots)
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
SLM…In the seminary? So where did he go for training, to Jerusalem? Where were the schools back in those days, and would he not have learn from Jewish Rabbi’s. If he did, how did he turn out to be so much different than those who taught him?
monicaangela

7 days ago
I left religion when my mom stopped making me go to church.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
SLM….that I did not know.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Remember that Yeshua was from a very poor family in a very poor town in a very poor province….His learning would have been at the synagogue in Capernaum which also explains why they want to toss him from a hillside when he begins to preach is new understanding…he was one of them.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
rabbi’s are baby mutilaters and should be castrated with a butter knife an a brick before they are executed.
Harleigh

7 days ago
My beliefs are mine, and I have no intention of trying to ram those beliefs down anyone else’s throat, or to deny anyone anything because of them.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
MA – the high priests would have been the ones to groom him, I think he turned on them. As is evidenced by their paranoia and their agreement to turn him over to the Romans.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Well folks, have a great weekend. I’m out.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Harleigh – it is a mohel that performs a circumcision, and not all rabbis go that route, it includes medical school…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Nite KT
sillylittleme

7 days ago
PPO…fair enough…..but one of the problems with that position is that it can shut down discussion about something that serves as a principle source of meaning and understanding for many….that is a part of life that needs to open too.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
‘night, KT
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Excellent translations Murph. So during the translation of the Bible, something that had to be done in its entirety would you say mistakes were or could have been made. I speak more than one language, and have heard translations that can be interpreted in many different ways according to the level of education and the cultural background of the person doing the interpreting. Would that not lead us to believe that much of what we read in the Bible is misinterpreted. Also too, many of the stories of the Bible, especially they great flood can be found in stories of many religions and many cultures. It’s all interesting. I still wonder about all of this.
monicaangela

7 days ago
SLM…where are you getting your thoughts from? The Sadduccees, the high priests group based in the temple,were a hereditary class…..and very small regarding those who from the provinces as little better than the pagans (or even a Samaritan).
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
nite KT
Harleigh

7 days ago
Good night KT
monicaangela

7 days ago
Murph, I’ve no problem enjoying a good discussion about anything, including religion. I’m happy to discuss, but never to either prosletyse (sp?) or judge others.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Nite KT
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – according to the NT, he was a direct descendent of David, so even as a poor child he would have been eligible.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Same here PPO, it’s an interesting discussion, and many questions can be asked that usually cannot be answered. As many say, you have to have faith to believe in anything, including yourself so I suppose if you are going to become involved in religion of any sort, you are going to need to have faith in what it is you are trying to understand.
monicaangela

7 days ago
I would never force my total lack of belief on anybody, I learned it from the Oklahoma bishops and Oral Roberts in the early 60’s.
Harleigh

7 days ago
Monica…you are correct I believe…..but there were also efforts to check for validity in translation and transmission AND there were deliberate alterations to elevate the life of the prophet.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
PPO….being open to new insights….the sign of real life.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Ok Murph – so riddle me this, who was responsible for choosing the books of the NT? And have you read all of the heretical texts?
sillylittleme

7 days ago
There is no need to force your lack of belief on anyone Harleigh, those that believe won’t listen to you, and those that don’t will agree with you and move on…it’s a losing battle.
monicaangela

7 days ago
SLM…the descendant of David…..Gospel of Matthew….and where else…..one of those elements in the mythology that were blended into the narrative…so goes the line of argument from a number of scholarships
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
yep.
Harleigh

7 days ago
Absolutely, Murph, no doubt. But I won’t try to force anything on anybody.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
true Monica
Harleigh

7 days ago
Catch-a 22, Monica!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Murph, I often wonder who actually made the efforts, and as you say, if they made an effort to uplift the prohet, what other efforts did they make, maybe to downgrade the prophetess?
monicaangela

7 days ago
Well that tears it, I won’t force myself on Monica!! LOL
Harleigh

7 days ago
SLM…you are speaking of the canonical and noncanonical books. Basically it was groups of scholars who weeded through the many texts that began to crop up just as Jewish scholars did for the Massoetic text.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
or SLM
Harleigh

7 days ago
Don’t agree so fast Harleigh.
monicaangela

7 days ago
PPO….forcing usually means that you have doubts about the value of the ideas you are promoting.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Yep PPO…..Catch 22.
monicaangela

7 days ago
MA – you are closer to the truth than you know…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
SLM, I believe I have lost track. Which truth?
monicaangela

7 days ago
Harleigh – don’t drag me into this, have another toke
sillylittleme

7 days ago
MA – the prophetess
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Monica….given a paternalistic, patriarchal society they did not need to do much BUT the role of Myriam, and the group of women in the Gospels is most interesting, indeed quite radical.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph, yes indeed. If you’re not sure of your argument, force it more and more to bully the opposition!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO…my experience.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – ever heard of Rebecca, Esther, Devorah?
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Absolutely Murph, I’m surprised they didn’t remove all of the radical women from the Bible. Mary Magdalene I believe that is spelled correctly especially.
monicaangela

7 days ago
I came in too late to check out the group’s thoughts on Blubber’s resignation, dammit!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
SLM….of course….which is why I am so interested in the role that Myriam and the group of women played in the NT but the three figures you mention are not core….there is little literature associated with them and their stories are examples of the “women too” phenomenon….
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Exactly SLM, those women were prominent, however it appears their stories have been a bit doctored. You can find some stories of them that make them appear to be a bit more militant and others that have them completely subserviant.
monicaangela

7 days ago
Monica…Mary Magdalen (who was NOT a prostitute in the narrative) had a very close relationship with Yeshua.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Hey all, sorry but had to pop away for a bit, back now!
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph – that is because the torah is only a piece of the puzzle, otherwise why would I know history of that time period not found in the OT.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
PPO—-Boehner….he could not cope any further, threw up his hands, faced an uphill reelection battle in which he would likely need Dem votes.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Exactly Murph, a relation that was as close as any of the deciples, however her story is more or less relegated to helper in the background just happy to be able to tag along.
monicaangela

7 days ago
SLM…say a bit more about that….
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph, what a wimp-out!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Welcome back AdLib, the discussion has turned to the validity of the Bible sort of.
monicaangela

7 days ago
Mary was artificially inseminated by aliens right?
Harleigh

7 days ago
Monica….that description applies to all of the disciples except for Peter…..she actually gets as much mention as the next strata of disciples and more than the bottom tier.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Boehner may have been fed up but he was facing a buzzsaw if he stayed. He would have been voted out of the Speakership which would have stained his legacy or he would have needed Dems to help elect him which agian, would have destroyed him among Repubs and led to being voted out later. He would lose either way so hw bailed out of the car that was about to drive off a cliff.
AdLib 7 days ago
PPO- Boehner could not get the House the way it worked for most his time there and he compromised his integrity away.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I’m scrolling back to catch up on the discussion…
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad…that is my reading on Boehner as well
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – the torah doesn’t include all of the stories because it would be the entire Harry Potter library. So there are other stories that don’t appear in the OT but are discussed to some extent in the Talmud and there are other ancient rabbinical texts that are included in teachings.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Murph _ Boehner was content being the king of fools than not being a king…until the fools turned on him.
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph, when the Christian stories described Mary Magdalene and the other women as the first witnesses of the Resurrection, they were saying something important about the nature of women: that they were capable of being as fully Christian as men.
monicaangela

7 days ago
Harleigh – she was raped by a Roman soldier…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
OK, I see it, Murph and Ad. You don’t see much in OZ about his problems.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
SLM….what is interesting to me is that Judaism did as you say….it did not expunge narrative and tradition that was not considered core text….intellectual much more valid in my mind.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Monica…not only the first witnesses but the first beleivers….VERY significiant.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Ad…and they had been turning on him for a long time, wearying.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
SLM That bastard!
Harleigh

7 days ago
However, she was not a disciple according to the Bible.
monicaangela

7 days ago
Murph – the question I have always had, is how much of it is attributed to far more ancient cultures as a way of preserving their stories.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Well, gotta go fix lunch. Cheers to all and see you next week.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Murph – and that brings us to Kabbalah…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
PPO…yes but you have your own interesting electoral soap opera going on in the nations leadership.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
G’day Pink
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Exactly Murph, so how did they go from being the first believers to being relegated to nothing more than
monicaangela

7 days ago
nite ppo
Harleigh

7 days ago
Murph, don’t get me started! Rearranging Deck chairs!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Goodnight PPO
monicaangela

7 days ago
SLM….huge sections of the OT, especially in Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronmy are drawn from Egyptian Wisdom literature.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Ad – I think Boehner is sick. He and Coburn are dying. Trying to go out on a high note.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
good night all.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Sorry Murph, relegated to less than the other diciples.
monicaangela

7 days ago
Seeya PPO!
AdLib 7 days ago
SLM…yes, Kaballah, fascinating.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Monica…the resurgence of the patriarchy I suspect…..
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Nite PPO
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Really slm, what do you think is wrong with them?
monicaangela

7 days ago
Murph – I believe that is the key to all, if it can be wrested from those who would abuse it. It is I believe a conglomeration of all the best of the most ancient wisdom.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
MA – now I lost the thread, what were we talking about?
sillylittleme

7 days ago
MA…I agree which is why I think the story of the prostitute and Magdala were conflated. Bring her down. Early iconography show Mary, Myriam at the center of the disciples with the largest flame of the Spirit over her head.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
slm… maybe they are being smited! holy moly! LOL
Harleigh

7 days ago
Harleigh – if only
sillylittleme

7 days ago
SLM….I have read a number of non-Canonical books and find them illuminating. So I am with you.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
You should see all the Democratic conspiracy theorists on HP, so many “geniuses” over there making up all kinds of reason out of thin air as to why Boehner resigned. Occam’s razor, anyone? He admitted that if he had stayed on it would have meant a bitter civil war in the House between TP and Estab Repubs…which Boehner would eventually lose because the TP have enough votes to block his winning an election to stay Speaker. He’s been hammered by the TP for so long, looking down the barrel of going through hell with no chance to end up winning…so he quit. It’s really not a mystery.
AdLib 7 days ago
Yep, and that patriarchy appears to have surfaced during the translation and rewriting of the events that took place. You do know that the translation, at least the King James version was orderd by a Bi-sexual, King James himself. I wonder what the Tea Party Evangelist think about that.
monicaangela

7 days ago
Ad Lib…..HP is now a wasteland…in the comments section….articles are still ok.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
ad that’s probably the reason.
Harleigh

7 days ago
it’s a great place to troll baggers
Harleigh

7 days ago
MA….King James of 1611 is a text whose language reflects the theology of a Protestant Church. Virtually all of what we have been discussing was firmly in place by the time Christianity had become commonplace in the empire.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – And the craziest thing about HP now is that their Facebook comments are ordered from oldest to newest. So the same old stale comments stay on an article no matter when you go to it. I was thinking about the reason sites had their own posting software and that it had the effect of creating a community. With FB the conduit for comments, there is no community at HP anymore, just various individuals posting one-liner comments on Facebook.
AdLib 7 days ago
Do you think that is all there is to it AdLib. I did see an interview with him today saying that he had planned to quit last year, before Cantor lost his seat, he had planned to resign and let Cantor take over, but after Cantor lost his seat he had to stay on.
monicaangela

7 days ago
MA – ya I saw that too
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Ad- and there are people at HP who know the truth of what you are saying.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
monicaangela, I don’t understand the logic for Boehner’s excuse so my rule of thumb is to doubt it’s honesty. Why couldn’t he quit after Cantor was voted out? What’s the difference? Why would he stay on just to quit later? I think that is just a story he made up to make this look premeditated instead of what it seems that it is and what he has otherwise admitted, he couldn’t take it anymore so he bailed. Without this story of wanting to resign earlier, he would look like a quitter and a loser. With it…IMO, he still looks like a quitter and a loser but to some Repubs he may look less so.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad…the HP money people are happy with the facebook platform – the editorial people are not…junk commenting.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
agreed ad
Harleigh

7 days ago
I realize that Harleigh…I’m saying the King James Version of the Bible. Here’s a quote from King James himself: I, James, am neither a god nor an angel, but a man like any other. Therefore I act like a man and confess to loving those dear to me more than other men. You may be sure that I love the Earl of Buckingham more than anyone else, and more than you who are here assembled. I wish to speak in my own behalf and not to have it thought to be a defect, for Jesus Christ did the same, and therefore I cannot be blamed. Christ had John, and I have George.
monicaangela

7 days ago
Ad….I think the Cantor point was that he was Boehners designated heir and then he was gone. Boehner wanted out and Cantor was the door.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Ad – I think he is dying and he wants to spend what little time he has left not in DC
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Murph – that makes so much sense, those at HP who care about what the site represents, would dislike the denigration of its comment quality and destruction of its community but the money boys are so happy they don’t have to spend money or resources on those lousy people who want to comment there.
AdLib 7 days ago
slm, GOOD. the fambly bar in Ohio would be a good place for that sorry sack of shit drunk.
Harleigh

7 days ago
I agree AdLib, it doesn’t seem to make much difference when you quit, you’re still quitting. But, he had that story of how he was staying on for the benefit of the party..it didn’t appear to be the truth to me either, but I did see him make the statement in a news interview.
monicaangela

7 days ago
Murph – Okay, going with that proposition, I still ask why staying on mattered. McCarthy could have taken over then.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad for the money folks it is hits on the site that drive the revenue stream and the fb platform has broken that open.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Harleigh – he has a place on Marco Island, at least you’re far enough away
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Ad – he wanted more money?
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Frivolity
Beatlex

7 days ago
Hey B
sillylittleme

7 days ago
well I’m falling asleep at the wheel here. later folks
Harleigh

7 days ago
Beatlex

7 days ago
Nite Harleigh
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Hello Beatlex!!
monicaangela

7 days ago
Nite Harleigh, good reading your comments again.
monicaangela

7 days ago
B – lovely coconuts, good to see ya in high spirits
sillylittleme

7 days ago
It has been a crazy month for me friends! Hello!
Beatlex

7 days ago
B – do tell
sillylittleme

7 days ago
monicaangela – Right, how was it better for the party that he stayed on? He still went along with the loonies for the most part, Congress’ approval rating remains at 9% and Republican voters hate Congress even more today than when Cantor left. It doesn’t seem to make sense to me. So, the alternative is that he craved staying in power even if he was going to be besieged by and beat up by the TPs. Because he still got to be important. Ego can’t be dismissed as the motivation for why politicians do what they do.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad McCarthy did not come to Congress until 2014….brand new
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
LOL!!! Love the frivolity Beatlex.
monicaangela

7 days ago
Hey Beatlex!
AdLib 7 days ago
Nite Harleigh.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Beatlex, are you really here.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Beatle…I just viewed your post. Good one.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Ad – they thought it would turn around any day now…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Murph – Got it. But then it could have been someone else, Boehner did nothing to help the GOP or the country by staying Speaker, he did it for himself because he wanted to keep being Speaker.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad – he needed the doctors in DC?
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Ad- the “someone else’s” were TPers…..and Boehner did not want to endorse that.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I agree AdLib. Boehner tried everything he could to get along with the crazies in the TP, he even tried 64 times to get rid of Obama Care for them. I believe he should have just cried like he always does, admitted the fact he had had enough and said he needed to spend more time with his family like all of the other quitters do.
monicaangela

7 days ago
Ad…..I am willing to bet that in his heart of hearts….he wishes he was never Speaker….he knows how miserable his legacy is.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
slm – Maybe so but the defeat of Cantor itself was a very strong statement that things were not turning around for the Estab Repubs. If Boehner did think that, he was very deluded…or his drinking was not diluted.
AdLib 7 days ago
A crazy month Beatlex? Care to elaborate?
monicaangela

7 days ago
Monica….what did you think of my Mary comment (at the center of the disciples)
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
slm – Doctors? Why?
AdLib 7 days ago
SLM,I just finished the job from hell,I paint houses,for 30 years,and this one was was the worst. It was a very old house,and I painted every inch of it.Green ceilings,blue and purple walls,and it was filthy! It is over now
Beatlex

7 days ago
Ad – The Rs are in a bubble, they don’t get how nothing they are. Boehner is gonna be announcing soon that he has advanced liver cancer.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
B – bet its beautiful noe
sillylittleme

7 days ago
now
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Beatle….house painting is very hard work….and when they are old you have to address so many issues before you ever put brush to pan.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – There were and are plenty of non-TPers in The House, they only make up around 40 or so seats, the Estab Repubs way outnumber them. They could have elected another one of themselves if Boehner left. What kind of delusion was Boehner under that he was so needed to stay? Why? He did the bidding of the TP in most cases anyway, how was that saving the GOP?
AdLib 7 days ago
SLM,it tested my skill and patience,but I won in the end!
Beatlex

7 days ago
Ad- there are plenty of non-TPers…yep, but the leadership push was coming from the far right and with Cantor gone and McCarthy new, Boehner’s options were liited.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Ad – they did an autopsy last year, no one does an autopsy on a living thing.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
SLM, I’m afraid I’m lost, I do remember you saying something about her being in the center with a light or halo over her head. Refresh my memory.
monicaangela

7 days ago
MA – ya lost me, I must be high
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Monica – Yep, he seems like an alcoholic who had a lot of trouble coping with conflict, especially when sober. But he left now because it was a dead end for him and he admits that. The rest of his story may be true but it’s irrelevant, he quit because if he didn’t, he was going to be fired and he knew it.
AdLib 7 days ago
Boehner is doing the right thing? Is he going to work with Nancy and pass the funding bill?
Beatlex

7 days ago
Monica….I pointed out that the patriarchal approach to the NT is challenged by early iconography that place Mary at the center of the church, as mother and foundress, with a super sized share of the Spirit….and then over the centuries she is transformed into the Mary of current iconography…meek, mild, silent.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
B – and give Obama a victory on his way out?
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Murph-FOR SURE! And people don’t get that
Beatlex

7 days ago
I believe that AdLib. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone happier admitting they have to quit/leave a job than what he appeared to be on the news today. I still say a lot of that blubbering he was doing behind the Pope was because he knew he would be doing this today.
monicaangela

7 days ago
Murph – I don’t think so, Boehner reveled in being Speaker, 3rd in line to the Presidency. Remember the ridiculously huge gavel he brought to Congress on his first day? I doubt he regrets being in future history books…though he may regret all the negatibve things written about him.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad – I seriously think he doesn’t see any negativity in any of his actions…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
First day, yep….and what power did he have, what influence, even the way he chose to do this today has him skulking from the room
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – So again I have to ask, how did Boehner staying on change anything? The TP will still have a friendly Speaker in place. Nothing has changed.
AdLib 7 days ago
Beatle…you know I farm in a rural area and old buildings are what I live with…on my farm and in my coop. Hardy work easily done badly.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
AdLib,it just looks bad for the R’s,don’t you think?
Beatlex

7 days ago
That is true Murph, you are correct. You know that, and I know that, but we still have women willing to go along with the program. I see just as many evangelical women, like for instance that horrible person down there in Ky. Makes me wonder if they actually realize that fact that they are aiding and abetting those that would keep them from becoming all they could be.
monicaangela

7 days ago
Staying on gave him McCarthy as the new Cantor.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I don’t believe McCarthy will win the Speakership. I don’t believe the TP’s want him either.
monicaangela

7 days ago
Monica…..one of the reasons that so many Catholic Sisters (Nuns) have “gone rogue” in the view of traditionalists is that they tossed aside those restrictions.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Nite all, have a great week. We still have a month of Boehner…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Beatlex – This isn’t going to happen but if Boehner was a more principled guy and had balls, he could take the next month to work with Dems, pass the immigration bill sent from the Senate and a number of other important bills like the Transportation Bill and leave office having made some long term accomplishments that made the country better. But Boehner doesn’t want to become infamous within the GOP, he wants to be remembered well ny the GOP (though he won’t be, he just thinks he will be) and he will do minimal things like probably get a CR passed until December and that’s about it.
AdLib 7 days ago
Goodnight SLM…don’t remind us.
monicaangela

7 days ago
Nite SLM,
Beatlex

7 days ago
Murph, you’ve noticed that too…they have become very militant of late. I believe we may have the opportunity to see a woman become a priest in our lifetime.
monicaangela

7 days ago
It is nearly 11:30 and time for me to say adieu….which is appropriate given the end discussion tonight…adieu…short for “I commend you to God.”
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Night slm!
AdLib 7 days ago
Goodnight Murph!
monicaangela

7 days ago
Night Murph!
AdLib 7 days ago
The GOP lost it’s Boehner.
AdLib 7 days ago
AdLib,Maybe,just maybe the Pope had an effect on him.He was holding back tears a lot. Let us pray!
Beatlex

7 days ago
Ad- I wrote a column a while back suggesting Boehner do just as you say here….be a real leader and do some good and then bow out…but he has a lobbying job awaiting and that comes with a price.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
It is 12:26 here, I guess I had better follow Murph and SLM. I’ve enjoyed your company. Sweet Dreams everyone.
monicaangela

7 days ago
GREAT DISCUSSION TONIGHT. MONICA AND BEATLE SOOOOO GOOD TO SEE YOU BOTH!
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
THX Murph! See Ya!
Beatlex

7 days ago
Beatlex – I do think the Pope’s presence and visiting with Boehner may have helped him make this decision but I think he had already wanted to bail after the writing was on the wall.
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph – Exactly, Boehner won’t be a great man because he can make more money not being one.
AdLib 7 days ago
Night Monica! Sleep well!
AdLib 7 days ago
AD AND BEATLE…one more thing….several color commentators have said that the Pope said to both Boehner and Biden “I am counting on you.” Biden smiled and Boehner cried.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
It was a great discussion, sorry I missed a bit of it!
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph – Great point! Wonder if Boehner will spend his retirement in confessionals, trying to catch up for the past 5 years?
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph,LOL! We can always count on the Bone for some waterworks
Beatlex

7 days ago
Quite the image….take care.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Well Beatlex, looks like it’s that time, to close up the Vox bar until next week. Have a great weekend and see you here next Friday!
AdLib 7 days ago
See you AdLib!
Beatlex

7 days ago
Nite!
AdLib 7 days ago
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