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AdLib On August - 28 - 2015
Vox Populi, our weekly live chat about the week’s events, begins tonight at 7:00pm PDT. Hope to see you then!
AdLib 7 days ago
Evening Ad. How bout that Martin O’Malley
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Hey slm!
AdLib 7 days ago
You mean his complaint about the debates being rigged?
AdLib 7 days ago
Uh ya, Debbie was a bit peeved.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Debbie helped rig it for Hillary.
AdLib 7 days ago
You mean trying to rig it for her
sillylittleme

7 days ago
I can hardly watch Hillary anymore. What she says, I almost usually agree with but her persona and tone is so elitist and disingenuous, so rehearsed and calulated.
AdLib 7 days ago
Que pasa folks?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad and that is why she would stink as Pres
sillylittleme

7 days ago
It was rigged, only 5 or 6 debates?
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey KT
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Hey KT!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey Ad and slm. How goes it?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
All the MSM drones are whining that Biden shouldn’t get in because there’s no constituency for him…we haven’t even seen any debates yet to compare them. Obama was at 18% at this point.
AdLib 7 days ago
Doing fine, KT, and you?
AdLib 7 days ago
Can’t complain. I don’t know if Biden actually wants to run.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Hi Glenn, Harleigh
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Hey glenn and Harleigh.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
And once again, Queen Hillary is announcing she already has 25% of the delegates needed via superdelegates? Before a single primary? Here goes the Queen of Entitlement again, showing an unhealthy disrespect for democracy. Russia has “elections” like this.
AdLib 7 days ago
Biden doesn’t want to run. He’d be in it by now.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Ad – Bernie got his first superdelegate today…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
slm – Maybe you’re right, he sure is exploring it now, though.
AdLib 7 days ago
I heard that a couple of Hillary money bundlers are for profit prison corps. Anybody else hear this?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Hey everyone. How is everyone tonight?
glenn

7 days ago
slm – Good but superdelegates are an establishment gimmick to weight primaries towards their candidates, possibly thwarting the majority of Dem voters.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad and SLM–I’m confused. Have there been Democratic party debates? What have I missed?
glenn

7 days ago
hi folks! good to see everyone tonite
Harleigh

7 days ago
Hey glenn!
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad – the sad part is that the Ds have been exposed as the same rotten pretenders as the Rs. How they think this will be the same as any other election makes me want to require the UN to oversee our elections…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
What’s up, Harleigh?!
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad – that
sillylittleme

7 days ago
s why he laughed it off…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Harleigh – just smoking for the first time today, so excuse me for bogarting it all
sillylittleme

7 days ago
glenn – No, Hillary announced today that due to backroom deals, she already has 25% of the delegates she needs to win the primary by getting superdelegates to commit to her. This is how she tried to steal the election against Obama.
AdLib 7 days ago
waitin To see what tropical storm Erika is gonna do to my first day at a new job Monday.
Harleigh

7 days ago
slm – Of course! Still, that’s one that Hillary didn’t get.
AdLib 7 days ago
Harleigh, you’re in FL?
AdLib 7 days ago
I don’t think Hillary ever thought that Bernie would be so popular. Isn’t he ahead in the polls now?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad–okay, so I did miss that. Are these committments in writing? Do they actually have to “vote” for her at the convention?
glenn

7 days ago
Ft Lauderdale, 5 miles west of the beach.
Harleigh

7 days ago
Ad – and how did it work out last time
sillylittleme

7 days ago
KT – Bernie is ahead in NH but behind Hillary in IA and nationally. Still, there’s a lot of time between now and the primaries.
AdLib 7 days ago
Harleigh–just talked to my nephew in Stuart (actually Port Salerno, if you’re familiar with that area) and he says the storm is probably going to go up the west coast–where my sister lives. How about you? And, what’s the new job?
glenn

7 days ago
When ARE the primaries anyhow?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Harleigh–oops I was typing when you replied to Ad.
glenn

7 days ago
Harleigh–anywhere near Westin?
glenn

7 days ago
glenn – Superdelegates are party officials and politicians in the DNC. They can pledge their vote to Hillary now and many have, no doubt being threatened and cajoled to do so before any other candidate is in a position to solicit them. I really don’t like the Clintons, they are mainly dedicated to getting what they want, however they can.
AdLib 7 days ago
KT – first one is January NY, NH, IA
sillylittleme

7 days ago
I am not getting worked up this far in advance of the electios. I am enjoying the shit out of the RWNJ feasing on each other as they stampede to the cliff on the right. LOL
Harleigh

7 days ago
Thanks, slm.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Howdy….ad….I could not get to Vox from the Front Page. I had to go to the Live Events Page and it popped up. Could just be me but I figured you should know.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Harleigh – From what I saw earlier, the storm is supposed to drop down from hurricane status to tropical storm before it hits FL.
AdLib 7 days ago
Thanks Murph, will check it out!
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–I’m with you. I’m just really tired of the Clintons and all their “baggage”. I’m not saying I would vote for ANY republican over Hillary, should she get the nomination, but I’d much rather vote for Bernie, or even O’Malley. And, I understand that a lot of the stuff about Hillary is exaggerated or even made up, but damn, it stinks to have to listen to it all the time.
glenn

7 days ago
Trump is having a fundraiser in MA today at a well-known car dealership owner’s home. That man is about to lose a lot of business. He too inherited his father’s wildly successful business. So he and Trump have that in common
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Hey Murph, how goes it?
glenn

7 days ago
Hey Murph
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Hi glenn and slm
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
glenn, I feel the same way about Trump too. I’m already sick of seeing that stupid face.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Glenn – so agree…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
glenn – No matter what, I will vote for the Dem nom for President whoever it is. But if it is Hillary, I will be far from enthusiastic about it. I would instead spend my energy exposing the disaster the Repub nom would be as opposed to extolling the virtues of a Hillary Presidency.
AdLib 7 days ago
So…is anyone watching the palindora box of lunacy interviewing the tRump tonight on conservative tv? Whatever that is…I’m afraid my tv would explode if I turned it to “conservative tv”.
glenn

7 days ago
KT–OMG, if the press would just quit hanging onto trump’s every word, gesture, and fart, I’d be a happy woman!
glenn

7 days ago
I sure do hope Trump could win the GOP nom, he will be the new Goldwater for the Repubs and help them lose big in Congress as well as the WH.
AdLib 7 days ago
Donald Trump-Orange is the New Black!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT–Donald tRump–orange is the new idiocy!
glenn

7 days ago
KT – Trump: Unhinged is the new black.
AdLib 7 days ago
There was a sign at the end of the driveway that stated that checks were to be made out to Trump’s campaign, if the guest brought cash, they were to have it ready.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
And how about Jebby polling now at 7%?! That is so funny!!! He’s got to be crapping in his Bush diapers!
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad, KT – Trump is the impetus for Idiocracy…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
SLM–I thought the tRump didn’t need anyone else’s money; he has so much of his own!
glenn

7 days ago
It’s never a good idea to have the worst president in US history to help you campaign. Them bush boys just ain’t too smart.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Glenn – HUGE fundraiser in MA this afternoon. I don
sillylittleme

7 days ago
KT–and the worst FEMA director ever at your side when “bragging” about how well you handled hurricanes when you were governor of FL!
glenn

7 days ago
t think there are enough RWNJs in MA to raise much
sillylittleme

7 days ago
KT – them Bush boys are inbred…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
I met someone last week who has worked with Hillary several times in her life. Here is what she told the group I was in. Hillary is a very, very, very serious person. She has a softness with family and her closest friends but she is not a naturally “friendly” person. She is not a person at ease in large gatherings. She loves to work. She loves to get the job done and finds glad handing a sad diversion. Hillary is not a happy campaigner but she is a very happy office holder. It has helped me “get” her a bit more. But it also means that if she is President she will probably be no better at schmoozing than Obama is.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
True glenn. Brownie is still not doing a “Heck of a job.”
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Eriika is getting ripped up but could reform in open water. Weston is 10 miles west of me and stuart is north. it will probably be a very wet rain event.
Harleigh

7 days ago
Harleigh – keep your pot dry!!!
sillylittleme

7 days ago
SLM–oh well, it shouldn’t matter if tRump doesn’t raise much money, right?
glenn

7 days ago
George has some chutzpah taking bows in New Orleans today…..
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – not convincing, I think that person was being too kind
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Hey Sabreen
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Hello Planeteers!
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Murph – I don
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Murph – What you describe doesn’t really conflict with my perception of her. Just that what she will work hard at are interests that conflict with most Progressives’ interests and she has a serious problem with credibility.
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph–interesting about Hillary. Image is everything nowadays, unfortunately.
glenn

7 days ago
t get why he was there
sillylittleme

7 days ago
SLM…maybe but given her resume I think she know her.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Hey Sabreen!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey Sabreen–how are you?
glenn

7 days ago
Good thing for bush that he still has SS protection.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Harleigh – Hoping Erica keeps falling apart!
AdLib 7 days ago
Glenn – the President needs to be able to deal with more than just their homies…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Murph – how many people do you know that knock their former boss, especially one with pull…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
SLM–agreed.
glenn

7 days ago
Hillary HAS dealt with a lot of foreign leaders. I’ll give her that much. Hearing that the for profit prison industries are backing her makes me sick though.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad- seconded, Harleigh stay safe (and keep your pot dry)
sillylittleme

7 days ago
And she has the nerve to talk about “mass incarceration?”
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT–I saw an article–just skimmed it–that says that BLM interrupted one of her events to encourage her to cut all ties with for-profit prisons. Don’t know what her response was, though.
glenn

7 days ago
Hiya glenn, slm everyone. I’m recovering slow buy steady. I’m not to stay long, but I missed you guys
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Hillary has been mostly falsely badmouthed since 1992. Benghazi and emailgate are just the latest examples.
Harleigh

7 days ago
Did you see Bush (George W.) claiming that his memories of Katrina was all good stuff?! People helping out and all that? Not the 3 days it took for help to come, his going on vacation after his flyover and “Good Job Brownie”? Disgusting, I could hardly watch that bastard. And what has he done in his post-Presidency compared to Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton? Paint pictures of himself in the bathtub while the others have helped many people around the world?
AdLib 7 days ago
SLM…worked with, not for…..this person is a senior Dem.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
KT – that is the one thing that will lose her a good portion of the AA vote that she thinks she has in the bag…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Yep.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Sabreen–glad to hear you’re recovering, even if it is slowly. Try to take it easy to keep that recovery going!
glenn

7 days ago
Hey Sabreen.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Sabreen – well you made it through, so that’s a start. give yourself time to recover.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
As long as you get better Sabreen….
Harleigh

7 days ago
Sabreen – So glad to hear that you’re healing well!
AdLib 7 days ago
Sabreen, I didn’t know you were ill. Glad to see you on the mend.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad–I think it was obscene (and yes, I mean that word) that gwb had the nerve to show his face in NOLA!
glenn

7 days ago
Harleigh – the email thing is such BS. They changed the law after she left SoS.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Every accusation the repukes have directed at her are a bullshit.
Harleigh

7 days ago
SLM–ever since Bill ran for prez the first time and Hillary said she wasn’t going to stay home and bake cookies, the cons have had it in for her.
glenn

7 days ago
glenn, like Michelle’s garden. The nerve of the woman.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I watched Trump in Massachusetts this evening….he promises without end and his crowds demand nothing of him than that he satisfy their hunger for an angry spokesman who fits their expectation of what a leader looks like. All bravado and no bothersome particulars.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
KT- I wasn’t actually ill. But had to have a hiatal hernia the size of Mt. Everest repaired.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Harleigh – Both things are true. The RW has dishonestly attacked Hillary and Bill with lies and phony accusations non-stop. At the same time, Bill and Hillary have been allies of Wall Street, corporations, and many international interests that oppose what’s best for most Americans. Hillary is a very practiced politician, almost robotic at it, she does however lack a degree of accessability, you can’t penetrate her protective emotional shield to connect with her so she comes off as distant and not genuine.
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph – MA residents are quite POd
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Like Trump refusing to say what Bible verses he likes best. Like he’s ever even opened a bible.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
SLM…SAY MORE PLEASE.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I have confidence enough in her that she will win and do a great job. The repukes candidates are do-nothings. Any of us could do a better job than any of them.
Harleigh

7 days ago
KT–exactly. How dare MIchelle try to show people good eating habits?
glenn

7 days ago
Sabreen – rest, rest and more rest. after that, rest some more.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Well glenn, you know how us commies are.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT but Trump is a master at deflection….he says he will not respond because it is personal…..and the evangelicals are willing to accept that because he is saying what they want him to say about what they care about or despise.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph–have you see Kimmel’s “campaign ad” for tRump that’s making the rounds on the net today? Hilarious!
glenn

7 days ago
Glenn….I have…
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Glenn – how dare she use the land to feed people, the shame. these people would have yelled at Dolly Madison for saving the art work…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
True dat Murph. Of course, the Tundra Tart had to defend him on that.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
oh Sabreen…. OOOOOWWWWW Don’t chase that pain, just take some drugs and chat…. you”ll be fine. LOL
Harleigh

7 days ago
So what was this dust up I read about on Twitter between Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and O’Malley?
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Sorry Harleigh but President Bernie Sanders has a much nicer sound, not to mention restoring the government to the people…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
KT–The more I visit VOX, the more I am learning (and liking) about you Commies! Maybe we should “switch” to being “socialists” like Bernie!
glenn

7 days ago
Trump says he might have a cabinet position for Palin. Secretary of the Inferior!!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I like Bernie.
Harleigh

7 days ago
Sabeen – O’Malley told DWS off at the DNC Summer Convention, well he just talked about the lack of debates and how it was weak sauce
sillylittleme

7 days ago
glenn, they’re one and the same in the eyes of the teabillies.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I looked to see if I could get that comedy show on my comcast lineup….. nope
Harleigh

7 days ago
Murph–I loved it when the announcer asked, “Why?” and the answer was always, “Because it’s great!”
glenn

7 days ago
Murph – Hence my article on Trump needing imaginary and magical characters to bring any of his “promises” to fruition. It’s all snake oil salesman, “This snake oil I’m selling is the most tremondous ever made! It tastes like rich chocolate, cures cancer, reduces your weight, makes your breasts bigger if you’re a woman or your penis bigger if you’re a man, makes you taller and best of all, makes you rich! Now who wants to buy a bottle of this instead of a low energy drink like Bush Cola?”
AdLib 7 days ago
Harleigh – Finished to RX drugs. I’m not feeling too bad. Nowit’s just that my lungs hurt a little because the hernia had been pressing up againt on and when it was moved the lung partially collapsed.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Well Ad, Trump should know about big penises. He IS one.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Trump has no plans or policies. just bullshit shuck and jive. LOL
Harleigh

7 days ago
I am really out of practice. My typing is worst than ever.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Want to see Trumps Spirit Guide? Huey Long……Read his “Every Man a King” stump speech….

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/hueyplongking.htm

American Rhetoric: Huey P. Long — Every Man a King Radio Speech
Full text speech of Huey P. Long – Every Man a King

MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
SLM–I know, these RWNJ can use ATV’s to rip through an archealogical (sp) site that hundreds of years old, and tear it up to “protest”, but don’t you dare use land to grow healthy food! Glad to see those assholes got arrested and are being tried.
glenn

7 days ago
Ad – taller? Ok that’s it I’m voting for Trump!!
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Hareigh, in the immortal words of Herman Cain…Aw Shucky Ducky!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Murph – Good point about comparing Trump to Long.
AdLib 7 days ago
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Glenn – you are correct and a terrific speller
sillylittleme

7 days ago
KT – nein nein nein!!! lol
Harleigh

7 days ago
LOL!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT–good one! And the word salad queen would be happy to accept–that way she wouldn’t have to associate with them thar “elites”.
glenn

7 days ago
I can just see it now. Sarah Palin…brain trust!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Sarah speaks through a Salad Shooter into a Mr. Microphone and thinks she’s hi-tech. No translation device is planned.
Harleigh

7 days ago
Well folks, I’m going to relax away from the “puter”. Hope to feel stronger in a week or so. Take care everyone.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Though I am very critical of Hillary and I think her selfish obsession to keep her emails on her own server so she could keep them hidden was just plain disrespectful to the American people, she didn’t break the law, there is no “there” there and hopefully, the FBI will make a definitive statement that makes it clear there is no criminal wrongdoing here. Being that she has the most likely chance at this point of being the Dem nom, I sure don’t want that hanging over her head forever. But…I do want a fair and legit primary race and would prefer someone else like Bernie, O’Malley or Biden as the nom.
AdLib 7 days ago
Harleigh – funny and fantastic!!!
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Sarah has also been studying Rosetta Stone English.
Harleigh

7 days ago
Hope you’re feeling better Sabreen. Take care.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Have a restful week Sabreen!!!
sillylittleme

7 days ago
nite Sabreen!
Harleigh

7 days ago
Rest well, Sabreen, so nice to see you here knowing you’re recovering from your procedure! Take care!
AdLib 7 days ago
I am finding Trump SOOOOOOOOOO boring….an empty kettle, a banging drum who offers only wild dreams and no solutions. He claims we will have the largest military in the world, a wall to wall fix of our infrastructure, AND lower taxes…..how? TRUST ME. I WILL MAKE THE DEAL.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Hello Planeteers
SueInCa

7 days ago
Sabreen–take good care of yourself, and hope to “see” you soon!
glenn

7 days ago
Hey Sue!!!
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Murph – Yes, it is already getting boring to those of us who already know what a fraud he is but to the majority of Repub and GE voters, I think Trump’s act will get very old very soon (though not for his ignorant and mindless followers).
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey Sue!!!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hi Sue–how are you?
glenn

7 days ago
SUEINCA….HOW THE HECK HAVE YOU BEEN….? LONG TIME NO SEE.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Hi SLM, glenn and Adlib
SueInCa

7 days ago
Murph – he’ll just keep printing money…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Hey Sue. How’s it going?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Hey Murph I am a lame duck what can I say. Hey KT
SueInCa

7 days ago
SLM….which runs contrary to every principle he says he holds deer.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Sue….how so?
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Well, a lame duck is better than a dead duck!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Cannot seem to remember to ever make it here even when I told Kes only an hour before then forgot a couple weeks ago
SueInCa

7 days ago
SLM–tRump–“You mean I can’t bankrupt the US, fire everyone, and still make money?”
glenn

7 days ago
Ad if you look at what the technology was in 2008 and that State had not been upgraded in the previous 8 years of Bush it really tells you why she opted for something more modern and useful. Think about a 2007 Blackberry. LOL
Harleigh

7 days ago
Murph – he has always been able to make more money, though why I have no idea…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
that is true KT and I am alive
SueInCa

7 days ago
SLM because he never spends any of his own money.
SueInCa

7 days ago
Hey Funk
sillylittleme

7 days ago
I wonder how many deportation trains Trump is planning to use. Hmmm, sounds vaguely familiar!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Sue – exactly
sillylittleme

7 days ago
HI SUE!!! I know you!
Harleigh

7 days ago
Hello Funk
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
hey slim!
funksands

7 days ago
Yes, Trump will spend billions, perhaps over a trillion on “The Wall”, infrastructure, the military, deporting 11 million immigrants, going to war against Iran, etc…and he will cut taxes HUGELY. Ask Dreamy, The Magical Unicorn, he knows how you can do it all.
AdLib 7 days ago
OMG its SueInCa
funksands

7 days ago
Glenn – LOL
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Hey Murph
funksands

7 days ago
Adlib not Hugely, Yugely
SueInCa

7 days ago
Funk’s in da house!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Funk! You’re in Trump City? We call it the nuthouse.
AdLib 7 days ago
KT– I must say, I do like our lame duck President lately. Especially when he goes all out on “I’m out of f**ks” with the repubs!
glenn

7 days ago
Ad, we’re all in Trump City right now
funksands

7 days ago
OMG It is FunkSands as I live and breathe :-)
SueInCa

7 days ago
Yes….tis I
funksands

7 days ago
Yeah me too glenn. I hope Obama legalizes weed before he goes.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Sue – YUUUGE
sillylittleme

7 days ago
KT I am enjoying this President immensely
SueInCa

7 days ago
Sue invite him to lib friends!
Harleigh

7 days ago
Hey Funk–how are you?
glenn

7 days ago
KT, I have visions of him boarding Marine 1 as he leaves the White House and lights up a big spliff
funksands

7 days ago
Everyone can come to Lib Friends.
SueInCa

7 days ago
We are going to have so many victories….you’ll get tired of them……SUPPORT FOR TRUMP IS AN IQ TEST….support him and you flunk.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Glenn I am tired but well. Hours of yard work. Makes me strong
funksands

7 days ago
That would be too cool funk.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – me too!! He should do it as his last act as President.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Funk–ain’t that the truth? Seems like all I see all over the internets is tRump nonsense!
glenn

7 days ago
I keep waiting for Morpheus to offer me a pill
funksands

7 days ago
slm, are you getting a medical card now that Mass has legal MMJ?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
glenn – No kidding, we will look back at the Obama Presidency as an historically amazing time, including his last years in office. His carbon rules, the Iran deal, he’s knocking down one big win right after the other…despite Trumps BS about how America never wins anymore. Keeping Iran nuke free? That’s a massive win!
AdLib 7 days ago
Que es Lib Friends?
funksands

7 days ago
I have to drive 12 blocks to pick out my wife’s!
funksands

7 days ago
So inconvenient
funksands

7 days ago
Lib Friends is a group of ex HPers and other on FB, Funk
SueInCa

7 days ago
Oh Facebook. Damn. I am not of the body
funksands

7 days ago
Believe it or not, Ohio may vote for legal recreational weed this November. Fucking OHIO! OH HIGH O!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT, that would be very civilized
funksands

7 days ago
It sure would.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
One thing that Trump is doing for Obama…..he is making Barack look very, very, very good…..the newest Pew Poll says that 85 percent of Dems are happy with Barack while 34 percent are happy with Congressional GOP leadership and we know how badly all of hte GOP Prez candidates are doing (except for Trump) are doing.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
We smoke it anyway in Cali, two brave Senators took it down to a misdameanor that is almost as good as legal
SueInCa

7 days ago
KT – yup, but they are rejecting a lot of people.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Good point Murph
funksands

7 days ago
Pretty close Sue. Cal may just make it legal in 2016.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Sounds good to me, KT! Poor RWs, gay marriage legalized. The ACA legalized. Now pot? No wander they want Trump to “Make America the 1950’s Again!”
AdLib 7 days ago
Time to go back to Budweiser, Cutty Sark and Marlboros
funksands

7 days ago
Murph–WOW–congress has that high of a rating now? They have come up from their 17% not so long ago!
glenn

7 days ago
That figures slm. They don’t have many dispensaries either.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
They are still doubling down and now they have a RW evangelical on Trumps’s staff
SueInCa

7 days ago
Can I join Lib Friends or is it just Hill supporters
sillylittleme

7 days ago
funk it’s a facebook group private page called lib friends with lots of old HP posters…. like here but on the FB format.
Harleigh

7 days ago
i refuse to join FB!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Thanks Harleigh, it sounds fun! Alas I am not of the Book
funksands

7 days ago
SLM anyone can join
Harleigh

7 days ago
SLM no most of us I think are Bernie supporters. Either way, there is to be no infighting there, right Harleigh?
SueInCa

7 days ago
KT–why? Just curious.
glenn

7 days ago
Sue that sounded convincing
funksands

7 days ago
KT – the one they just opened in Salem is already a mess. The person running it is not gonna make any money when there is a closed FB page that patients and providers use to get together
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Harleigh – why am I just hearing about it…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Murph – That goes to my point about the dishonesty and laziness of the MSM to brand Bernie as a liberal mirror image of Trump. Dems LIKE their party’s leaders and politicians for the most part. Bernie is a sitting Senator of many years. Repubs despise their party’s leaders and candidates and favor Trump right now who is a fraud and a snake oil salesman. No comparison. Dems have unity and are having a healthy primary, the GOP is tearing itself to pieces.
AdLib 7 days ago
I’ve seen to many stories about FB members getting themselves fired and so on, for the comments they make. Too many eyes watching, for my taste.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Do you all remember the promised TOWN HALL MEETINGS TO TAKE ON THE IRAN DEAL that the GOP was promising us….I went to one here in Mo. My congressteaman put a full court press on getting out a huge crowd to show the Prez what we Show Me Staters thought of his Bad Deal. 31 people showed up, 10 of them like me in support of the deal…..things are not good in GOPland
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Ad: Uneasy, sniping unity
funksands

7 days ago
No infighting. Opinions are fine. Don’t dare to do a mysogyn thing…. the women there would hunt you down!! LOL
Harleigh

7 days ago
Funk –
sillylittleme

7 days ago
iT REALLY IS, fUNK. I don’t belong to any page that is taking part in denigrating either of the candidates or should I ssay any
SueInCa

7 days ago
Good! Pleasant change
funksands

7 days ago
Harleigh is that like an obgyn?
funksands

7 days ago
Funk yes it is like in obgyn not allowed
SueInCa

7 days ago
funk, without the stirrups!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Interesting info today that Hillary thinks that she’s already got 15% of the delegates locked up. Already.
funksands

7 days ago
I found one Lib Friends on FB – it is a closed group with 14 people
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Murph that is a good thing
SueInCa

7 days ago
Funk – Dems have always been a coalition of different constituencies that often fight among themselves but come the GE, they mostly come together. I don’t see that happening with the GOP. If the estab GOP shoves Jebby on the party, they are not going to rally to the party and turn out to vote. I think the odds of a Dem President rise each week Trump stays strong.
AdLib 7 days ago
Very good points Ad..
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Ad–repubs despise their leaders because they have been taught for over 30 years to hate the government. As has been pointed out so many times, repubs complain that government doesn’t work, then get elected, and do their damndest to make it NOT work! Was it Brownie or the Homeland Security who just said in an op-ed that Americans shouldn’t expect their government to fix their problems for them? WTF do we have a government for, then?
glenn

7 days ago
Ad, did that happen to Romney?
funksands

7 days ago
lol Funk remember when Obama was keeping quiet and the delegates flocked to him? She really has not learned her lessons
SueInCa

7 days ago
Harleigh – how does one get into a closed group and is that it?
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Oops, got a visitor, gotta go. Take care all.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
later KT
SueInCa

7 days ago
Sue, I think she has! I think she’s been personally courting delegates and super delegates for months
funksands

7 days ago
Bye KT
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Glenn….head of homeland security.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
See ya KT
funksands

7 days ago
Murph–such a shame that things are not good in gopland. NOT!
glenn

7 days ago
SLM there is over 100 in the group. what’s your fb name and i’ll send a invite if you want.
Harleigh

7 days ago
Just need your name on FB slm and we add you to be approved
SueInCa

7 days ago
You should have seen the looks of shock on the face of our Congressman as he realized that he had fallen flat on his face.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
‘Nite KT. Take care!
glenn

7 days ago
lol next time take a pic Murph
SueInCa

7 days ago
Funk – one would think courting votes would be more important
sillylittleme

7 days ago
I saw an interview today with a Jebby supporter who got hammered hard on the show and finally proclaimed that the GOP may be in the midst of changing into something else. I think we’ve seen that happening but it may be that he’s recognizing that the asuylum is now being taken over by the inmates and the “Admin” of the asylum are in denial, thinking that all their money and power will keep control in their hands. Maybe not…
AdLib 7 days ago
I still cover this site mostly and hardly ever miss our friday chats.
Harleigh

7 days ago
So what did he do Murph? Did he still have the rally?
funksands

7 days ago
Better yet, a vid of the whole thing
SueInCa

7 days ago
Not to be rude but can’t say I’m crazy about using The Planet to recruit for other sites.
AdLib 7 days ago
Funk….he did and the 30 or so who showed up….only 20 with him and 10 opposed (including me). He was shocked.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Marlon Bird just hit a grand slam against the ST Louis Cards
SueInCa

7 days ago
Ad, its remarkable to watch the darlings of the 2012 candidate watch come out swinging in 2016 and be utterly lost as to what to do next.
funksands

7 days ago
Sorry Sue, its an odd year. Giants aren’t winning it this year. Like Star Trek movies
funksands

7 days ago
Sorry Adlib
SueInCa

7 days ago
Harleigh–I’m with you; love these Friday night chats. I also go to Addicting Info a lot since you mentioned it here at VOX. It cracks me up; especially the rwnj’s who go on there to slame “liberals”.
glenn

7 days ago
Ad, noted.
funksands

7 days ago
I keep telling the hubby that, Funk, next year is our year
SueInCa

7 days ago
Mariners just fired their GM. We have that going for us.
funksands

7 days ago
Morning all!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
but we are big fans anyway.
SueInCa

7 days ago
Hey Pink!
funksands

7 days ago
Hi Pink
SueInCa

7 days ago
Hey PPO–how’s everything with you?
glenn

7 days ago
Who is pushing Trump….Talk Radio and the Right Wing Internet….Levin, Limbaugh, Savage, Breitbart, Jones- this is the Tea Party focused on a standard carrier (interesting that Palin is interviewing Trump tonight)
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Ad – it doesn’t mean we love coming here any less. I’m usually more interested in reading other people’s comments…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
glenn – True, a party that is all about hating government leaders…has a bit of a problem then trying to get them to follow Repub government leaders. They’re the enemy because they promised pie in the sky like Trump is doing , just to get elected, then the voters feel betrayed when they don’t get all their wish list to come true as promised.
AdLib 7 days ago
Hi PPO…g’day.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Hey PPO!
AdLib 7 days ago
Trump has figured out that it isn’t about the policies its about the right words. He’s made the “brave” move of moving beyond dog whistles an codes to just come right out and say the things that people are thinking.
funksands

7 days ago
Got it, slm!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hi from Nazi Melbourne. If you haven’t seen it, there were demonstrations in the center of Mel yesterday protesting at the cops and Immigrations plans to check people in the streets for their visas! they were totally shamed into abandoning the whole profiling exercise. Dumb of the Gummint to even try such a stupid idea.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Adlib Trump has added an Evangelical to his team that was, not 20 days ago, slamming Trump. Trump is courting the evangelical vote and if we don’t get out the vote, they could concievably win
SueInCa

7 days ago
Hey Pink!!
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Sue, Ain’t trump Catholic?
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
You have an evangleical right winger there, PPO
SueInCa

7 days ago
Oh Pink it hurts my heart to see your beautiful country saddled with Rick Perry for Prime Minister. Surely this will end soon?
funksands

7 days ago
PPO – Ask folks in NYC, Stop and Frisk is a tactic of a totalitarian government, doesn’t end up working out in an alleged democracy.
AdLib 7 days ago
I think that Trump realized that there was a very solid, very angry, very betrayed Tea Party Core (old, white, male dominated) that now hates the establishment GOP as much as they hate the Dems (and maybe as much as they hate Obama) andhe is harnessing it.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
PPO Trump was raised Presbyterian but it is pretty clear that he is really a NONE.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Trump is his own idol
funksands

7 days ago
Pink – I agree with Ad sorry we’ve influenced the lunacy around the world
sillylittleme

7 days ago
funk, here’s hoping. Also the debate has restarted to make Australia a Republic, and drop the Queen as head of state. Up The Republic!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO….you all have a conservative government down under.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I wanna see the vid of the trump – palin
Harleigh

7 days ago
SLM I know. First Jerry Lewis, then high fructose corn syrup, now Trump
funksands

7 days ago
Fer sure, Murph. Racist, conservative a la GOP and thoroughly detested.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Isn’t Trump GOD?
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Pink, that would an interesting process to watch.
funksands

7 days ago
SLM, not yet
funksands

7 days ago
Sue – Trump is the gold standard in blatant pandering. He panders in such an exaggerated way, I can’t believe his followers are such rubes. Of course The Bible is his favorite book and he loves the football teams and players as his favorites in whatever city he’s in, of course he will make everyone wealthy and happy, of course he can cut taxes but spend a trillion on border walls, infrastructure and wars….how stupid can his followers be?
AdLib 7 days ago
Funk…quite a word association list you have there.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Pink – no more royalty!!!
sillylittleme

7 days ago
SLM, only in his own mind, which is overheating from that rug
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO he says he is Presbyterian
SueInCa

7 days ago
Ad…EVERY MAN A KING…..this is how it works with the unhappy and the angry.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Oh, sue, maybe he said it to lure the Latino vote!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Ad, I can’t believe that you can’t believe that.
funksands

7 days ago
SLM and PPO…sorry but I am a royal fan….ooops
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Mo problem, Murph. I love the old bat myself, just think that an Aussie should be Head of State in Australia
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Murph – shame!!!
sillylittleme

7 days ago
The old bat. LOL
funksands

7 days ago
Pink, another 20 years with the crown I think she’ll turn into a stone gargoyle.
funksands

7 days ago
I am surprised you even ask that question Adlib. The are pretty stupid and have been for a long time. They don’t know how to think for themselves, group think works better. Talk about lazy assholes, the right is ripe with them
SueInCa

7 days ago
That’s a little rude of me.
funksands

7 days ago
Lest we forget…..Dr. Carson is the number 2 in the GOP field….those Repubs really hate their political class do they not.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – Trump has spent at least a decade in the reality tv world. He learned that people love conflict and that the most obnoxious person becomes the biggest star of the show. He learned that people want to feel superior to others to make them feel better about the difficulties of their own lives. He is simply applying the dynamics of why reality television works so well…and the greedy MSM is empowering him.
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph, the GOP built a rod for their own back when they went commando on President Obama from day one.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Murph, it sure is looking that way. Too bad being a truly awful person doesn’t disqualify you for higher office
funksands

7 days ago
BTW, Chris “Tingly” Matthews on MSNBC always calls Ben Carson, “brilliant”. Always. It’s “The brilliant Ben Carson” or “Ben Carson, he’s such a brilliant guy”. Matthews is such MSM trash, it’s appalling.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad, he’s a fanboy
funksands

7 days ago
He is the ultimate DC creature. He worships DC
funksands

7 days ago
I could not stomach to watch him at all. I have given up MSNBC entirely
SueInCa

7 days ago
funk, I have no tiime for Sir Cumference of New Jersey, but he made a point on CBS This Morning that all the questions they were asking him were not about his message, but what he thinks of Trump! Insane
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
I saw a car in ME today with a Ben Carson bumper sticker and I laughed as I passed them with my Bernie bumpersticker
sillylittleme

7 days ago
September 9 Trump and Cruz will be at a Tea Party Patriots, Center for Security Politcs and the Zionist Organization of America anti-Iran Agreement Rally in D.C….their goal to stop the deal…Josh Earnest pointed out that Trump is associating himself with those who got us into Iraq something he says he was against…..
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Christie speaks the truth! Too bad he’s such a goddamn liar 90% of the time so I can’t believe anything he says
funksands

7 days ago
Ad and Murph–yeah, Carson is so “brilliant” that he says the gop doesn’t have a war on women; just on the insides of women. And this man is/was a brain surgeon!
glenn

7 days ago
Well gotta go for now, you all have a good night.
SueInCa

7 days ago
wrong end, glenn!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Night Sue!
funksands

7 days ago
Funk, friends of mine in NJ say that Christie is now in single digits and that efforts to impeach him are gaining steam…..AND his legal troubles are not done.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
i quit MSNBC years ago too Sue. Phil Griffin has run it into the ground per comcast declartation
Harleigh

7 days ago
g’night sue
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
nite sue
Harleigh

7 days ago
Glenn….brains …… perhaps his is overworked.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
G’nite Sue. NIce chatting with you!
glenn

7 days ago
I’ll beat you there SLM. I saw a Lindsey Graham bumper sticker in Seattle
funksands

7 days ago
Nite Sue
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Sue…take care. It was grand seeing you here tonight.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph, judging by what he was spouting on CBS, I’m not surprised.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Freaked me out
funksands

7 days ago
Funk and Sue – I believe it but it’s so awful to see so many…idiots…out there. No, someone’s not an idiot if they vote Republican but to vote for a guy who is so obviously a fraud, just tells so much about why it’s so hard for progress to happen in this country. These morons whine about how terrible our government is but it is them who are so easily manipulated to vote for those who prevent government from working, they should all be punching themselves in the face.
AdLib 7 days ago
PPO–LOL! Wrong end, indeed.
glenn

7 days ago
Funk…pretty clear…..
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Bush, Clinton or Trump? We have a very very sick electoral process
funksands

7 days ago
Funk – you have officially one upped me. Although the people in the Ben Carson stickered car were definitely not brain surgeons…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Ad–they are punching themselves in the face, every time they vote for one of these fraudsters like tRump or the cruzmobile.
glenn

7 days ago
Ad – and we educated all of those people in public schools. I think too many people have been passed along to graduation.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
I think the Iran Deal is pretty much sealed up now….no veto over-ride possible. Now the deal will have to be sold post-facto to the democratic base…
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Is any GOP candidate dumber than Ben Carson? I don’t know how he got through medical school but no doubt was at the bottom of his class. He constantly says the dumbest things (at least because we no longer hear anything Rick Perry is saying).
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph–not sure the deal has to be sold to the Dem base; needs to be sold to the stupids who would rather side with Israel than the US and five other nations.
glenn

7 days ago
Ad–and carson is the #2 choice behind the tRump!
glenn

7 days ago
Murph – the deal doesn’t “have” to be sold. It is a multi-nation agreement.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
glenn – True but they’re punching the country in the face with the Tea Party Reps they elect.
AdLib 7 days ago
Glenn….the Dems will be tied to the deal and unless mosts of the base gets it was right thing to do it is a chink that could become a big hole.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
slm – Yep, though some of these folks must have been home schooled…at a home for the moronic.
AdLib 7 days ago
SLM…voters need to feel that the deal is a winner…I am just thinking in terms of the politics of it.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Ad, you got it. The problem isn’t the Presidency. That’s going to be almost impossible for the GOP to win. The real problem is the Statehouses that have been totally taken over by really extreme legislators.
funksands

7 days ago
Who does well in national elections is reflection of that
funksands

7 days ago
Murph–so you don’t think that most of the Dem base thinks it is the right thing? I’ve certainly not done a scientific poll, but most of the other libs/Dems posting on sites I visit seem to understand that it’s the best deal we can get.
glenn

7 days ago
Funk….the statehouses are very important. They have the potential to counter the 2020 census.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – Yes, I think the Iran deal was sealed up a while ago but Obama is keeping folks on his side. A majority may oppose it but most Americans have only heard the BS about it, they don’t know the truth. Like the ACA, they will start out against it but as they see it working and Iran being deprived of nukes, they will support it. Obama doesn’t need to sell the deal to voters, just to Dem Congress people.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad–true, we get punched, too.
glenn

7 days ago
BRB
funksands

7 days ago
If the Iran deal gets canned we will have very poor relation with the other countries, murikkas wor will be shit and all sanctions from Russia and Cina will be gone for good.
Harleigh

7 days ago
Ad – or as a friend of mine whose ex-wife is homeschooling by letting them figure things out for themselves…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
I wish I could type tonite! LOL
Harleigh

7 days ago
Glenn, the lastest poll I read shows that 41 percent think the deal is necessary and the best we could get, 34 disagree, and 15 are undecided.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Have another Toke, H!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO… oh my!!! LOL
Harleigh

7 days ago
Harleigh – It would be very bad for the US indeed if the Iran deal was blocked, our reputation in the world for brokering deals would be severely damaged and Iran would have nukes within 3 years or less. But thank goodness, the deal will stay in place, Obama has the votes.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad…I agree Obama has done what he does, play the small game very well….while playing the PR game simultaneously.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Ad……..the lastest Marist poll on the deal…Glenn, the lastest poll shows that 41 percent think the deal is necessary and the best we could get, 34 disagree, and 15 are undecided.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph–Was that a poll among only Dems, or the whole country?
glenn

7 days ago
slm – slm – Yep, that’s how I learned to skydive, through home schooling and letting me figure things out for myself.
AdLib 7 days ago
Glenn…a poll done of dems
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Bobo Naziyahoo has been saying that Iraq/Iran will have nukes in a year for 25 years! LOL. It is not cheap to build and maintain nukes but it will keep other countries from attacking you.
Harleigh

7 days ago
Murph – That’s good to hear. I think that when this 60 day period and the lame campaign to stop it is over, as the truth comes out, a far bigger majority will support it.
AdLib 7 days ago
Sanders and O’Malley are really pushing for more debates…any chance? I think that there is none. Clinton’s people controlled the process and neither of the otehrs had enough organizational strength to challenge it. This speaks to another issue: wrapping up 400 plus super delegates out of 700 more than a year out from the election.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Ad – the sad part is that his family has math geniuses in it (himself included), his children as hard as he has fought for them are still in the custody of the woman who is teaching them into minimum wage jobs. He isn’t taking it well!!
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Murph–wow. That blows my mind. It does show how little the “liberal press” does its job, though. I am so sick of reading about what this or that person said about the deal instead of hearing about what the deal actually says and does! Everytime someone, whoever it is, says something about the deal, the press should be doing its job and saying whether or not it is true. IOW, here is what the deal says, not what “joeblow” says.
glenn

7 days ago
Harleigh – NutAndYahoo has lost all credibility internationally. Israel is so alone now, and that’s messed up, in the world, except for the support of the US. Israel badly needs a decent leader to repair the damage the lying war hawks have done to that nation.
AdLib 7 days ago
Harleigh…and Bibi has direct experience of this as the only nuclear power in the Middle East.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Harleigh – Bibi is such a shitty human that he’s gonna live to be 100.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Murph – because they helped the US continue development…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Harleigh–and what bobo is not saying is that even though Israel has nukes, they are not signatories to the nuclear arms reduction treaty (don’t know the “official” name).
glenn

7 days ago
The press is so anxious for readership, viewership, listenership that it plays the game according to the ratings cards…what draws crowds
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Glenn – and that is because that is what the US wants…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Murph – And that is why I do not like Hillary, she is once again rigging the system to try and steal the nom instead of earn it. She is mercenary, like Bill, which comes from their sense of entitlement. They don’t really like the democratic process and their actions display that.
AdLib 7 days ago
SLM–clarification? The US wants Israel to NOT sign the arms reduction treaty?
glenn

7 days ago
Ad…she did not rig it last time….Obama did…he had the supers sown up in record time….
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
slm – How frustrating! It’s so hard to watch an ignorant parent steal the potential futures away from their kids. Hope there’s something he can eventually do to help them out of that dead end
AdLib 7 days ago
Glenn – the US wants nukes in Israel at all costs. so if they won’t sign the US is ok with that…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Murph – Yes, she did try to steal the Dem nom in 2008 and tried to do it the same way, by trying to override Obama’s winning delegates in caucuses and elections through the use of non-democratic superdelegates.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad – what’s worse is the court system is blinding themselves to the circumstances because they are upper middle class in income. If they were poor he would have had custody from the start.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
SLM–apparently so. But I think that people should know the facts at least–that Israel hasn’t/won’t sign.
glenn

7 days ago
Ad…..Obama’s people got ahead on this early….I was involved with it. Very cagey. She was caught flatfooted.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
brb
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Murph – From 2008: “In her campaign for superdelegates, Clinton has been insisting that it is irrelevant whether Barack Obama receives the majority of votes or even the majority of states. It is all about the Electoral College; therefore, voters in red states who chose Obama do not really count because, as Democrats, they will not have any say in the general election.”

http://jonathanturley.org/2008/04/08/de-accrediting-the-electoral-college-the-real-costs-of-a-constitutional-relic/

De-Accrediting the Electoral College: The Real Costs of a Constitutional Relic
Hillary Clinton’s superdelegate strategy has highlighted the flaws in our electoral college system — and the need to finally embrace democracy in its truest form in the selection of the President …

AdLib 7 days ago
Glenn – totally agree. especially since we Americans have NO clue how many are over there…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Ad – which is another reason that she will likely be a victim of Romneyitis
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Ad…I know…she tried to discredit the entire process….Obama locked up 394.5 delegates to her 280 by early June and then went after the 115 uncommitted. He got more than half of those. So….the quote does not surprise me.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
slm – That’s messed up. So his being smart and successful works against him?
AdLib 7 days ago
We all heard Bobo’s speeches and from Israel’s Mr. Spybassador. They are all liars. It is way past time for AIPAC to be registered as a foreign lobby and to curtail all monetary and military aid to that warmongering theocratic apartheid country/race/religion called Israel. That money could be much better spent on our own people and infrastructure here in whats left of murikkka. Israel is a bigoted, offensive, apartheid country and should no longer receive anything from the US except our contempt and condemnation. No more knee-jerk shielding at the UN for their war crimes either! At least they are only targeting, killing and stealing from heathen Muslims to prevent any peaceful 2 state solution, right? Israeli Prime Minister Bobo Naziyahu is just another war criminal and his Lukid party in Israel sucks just like the baggers here in murikkka. Naziyahu has been saying that Iran is a year from having a nuke for 25 YEARS now! Either they now have dozens of nukes or Bobo has been lying for all these years.
Harleigh

7 days ago
SLM–it’s like a “catch 22”; we don’t know how many they have because they won’t tell, and as non-signatories to the agreement, we can’t “force” them to “tell”. Kind of like what would happen if we didn’t sign the Iran deal, and Iran has no oversight over their nuclear weapons program. Ironic, isn’t it?
glenn

7 days ago
Ad – yup. they have a new judge, but I’m not as hopeful as I was 3 years ago when he started the divorce process because he had been advised by a former family court judge that was his best course for getting them back in school.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Murph – My point was and is, Hillary tried in 2008 to kick over the table of democracy and win the nom by overriding Obama’s wins with backroom deals with Superdelegates. She did it in 2008 and she is using Superdelegates this year to scare off Biden and convince voters that she’s the inevitable winner anyway, before a single vote has been cast. Unprincipled in my book.
AdLib 7 days ago
Harleigh it seems you have some doubts about the efficacy of support for the state of Israel?
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
oops–then we woldn’t have oversight over Iran’s nuclear weapons program; not that Iran wouldn’t have oversight.
glenn

7 days ago
murph…. just a little.
Harleigh

7 days ago
Glenn – the US government knows, there is no question that a paper trail exists. The question is why don’t the American people know and why would anyone want to keep it from us…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Ad…I hate to beat a dead horse, but it was Hillary who got beaten to the punch on this in 2008 by Obama operatives….and then she wanted to kick the table over.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Harleigh–I vote for “door number two”–bibi has been fearmongering; otherwise know as lying; all these years.
glenn

7 days ago
Harleigh…good that you remain open to alternatives….(hah!)
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
you bet he has glenn
Harleigh

7 days ago
Harleigh – When you say they’re all liars, just to confirm, you’re talking about the RWs in Israel along with AIPAC? They are definitely flat out liars IMO but there are many Israelis, like the intelligence and military people coming out in support of Obama and the deal.
AdLib 7 days ago
slm – What an insane battle he has on his hands. Sorry to hear that.
AdLib 7 days ago
Harleigh–but you gotta admit bibi’s little cartoon of a bomb going off, when he addressed congress, was just too cute!
glenn

7 days ago
Hey Harleigh if the new job doesn’t work out want to go do some Jew shaming with me? I agree that AIPAC is bad for the world
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Ad – thanks yup a long costly slog and the kids are the ones suffering. they are on permanent holiday…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Ad….and Harleigh…the majority of Jewish leaders in this country have now come out in support of the deal…
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Hola
funksands

7 days ago
Murph – Right, Obama beat her to the punch though by going after the smaller and caucus states where he focused on winning local pols over. The fact that she failed in her attempt to subvert the election process with the superdelegates overriding it, doesn’t change that it was her plan to do so once she realized she was losing the electoral battle.
AdLib 7 days ago
Time for me to wrap it up tonight, good people. Take care and have a great weekend. Harleigh, try to stay out of the way of that storm, and good luck on the new job.
glenn

7 days ago
Murph – all the sane jews agree it is past time to renew relations with Iran. Israelis and Persians have a long amiable history…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Night, glenn
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Nite Glenn have a great week
sillylittleme

7 days ago
thanks glenn
Harleigh

7 days ago
Ad…………..however he did it, he came into the late spring with 100 plus more delegates than she had.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
My electoral project over the next year and change is to get good Dems everywhere to stop extolling the virtues of a declining deficit
funksands

7 days ago
Night Glenn
funksands

7 days ago
Funk…good for you. I would like to read more on that.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Funk – good luck with that. I agree that deficits and debt for a nation as a whole are largely imaginary. At any time we can print enough to pay all debts off and not have to print anymore for several decades…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
SLM gotta pay the bills first! lol
Harleigh

7 days ago
Murph – Yes, Obama beat her in the delegate count in the end but again, my point was that Hillary tried to beat him using Superdelegates to erase his advantage over her in electoral delegates. She failed but she did try to do so. You’re not disputing that, right?
AdLib 7 days ago
You can in some older posts I wrote in relation to MMT. But I’ll be actively working on it over the next several months in all social media platforms. That is probably the single biggest trick the GOP ever pulled over on the Democratic Party is getting them to be the party of declining deficits and not only that but being proud of it.
funksands

7 days ago
Harleigh – just an option
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Thanks SLM you’ve got of piece of the picture for sure
funksands

7 days ago
Well, I am hitting the road….this has been fun…I am going to another Trump event on Monday…..Dejavu….I followed the TeaParty in its early days too.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Night Murph, stay safe and sane
funksands

7 days ago
nite murph
Harleigh

7 days ago
Funk – Your post on the benefits of a deficit always stay in my mind, especially as we head towards another budget battle where Repubs will want to slash spending to allegedly cut the deficit.
AdLib 7 days ago
g’night Murph. Bring your earplugs!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Funk – I always say that money is a figment of our collective imagination. It need do nothing more than circulate.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
I leave you all with this searing image….
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Night Murph LOL
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Wow, Murph!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
slm – Then if I imagine I have a million bucks?
AdLib 7 days ago
It isn’t whether a deficit is virtuous or not, but rather what you run a deficit for. The sooner the Dems become the party of running federal deficits for critical public purpose, the sooner we move out of the monetary dark ages and stop being a political prisoner to bullshit.
funksands

7 days ago
Money doesn’t grow on rich people
funksands

7 days ago
Ad – yes, but you have to convince others in order to spend it…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Funk – spot on!!!
sillylittleme

7 days ago
I bet I’d be richer than Trump right now if I’d inherited $100 million dollars. Pretty disappointing performance if you ask me.
funksands

7 days ago
Gotta go. Cheers all, see you next week!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Funk – totally agree and I think he made most of it selling his name and his TV career.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
nite PPO
Harleigh

7 days ago
Night Pink!
funksands

7 days ago
Funk – But I have a feeling that the wealthy in the RW know how a deficit works but they want to stay in the dark ages because they get to be kings and the rest of us virtual serfs.
AdLib 7 days ago
G’day Pink
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Night PPO!
AdLib 7 days ago
Well, I am off….take care all.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
later murph
Harleigh

7 days ago
You too Murph
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Ad, Cheney let the cat out of the bag when he said “Deficits don’t matter”. He was alluding to what the moneyed class in DC already know.
funksands

7 days ago
Funk – and that was before the Iraq War…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Run a deficit to rebuild every bridge in America. Don’ run a deficit to create a power vacuum in the ME
funksands

7 days ago
exactly funk
Harleigh

7 days ago
Funk – That’s another of many things that get me about the BS about Trump, they keep saying he was a self made man when he was given a hundred million by his dad! How is that self-made? Especially after filing bankruptcy many times?!
AdLib 7 days ago
Funk – yes but how does that pour money into Halliburton?
sillylittleme

7 days ago
SLM I didn’t think of that. Good point
funksands

7 days ago
Funk – You forgot the asterisk of Cheney’s, “Deficits don’t matter.*” *when the President is a Republican.
AdLib 7 days ago
Trump is a textbook example of the dangers of dynastic wealth. We don’t need an estate tax to raise money, we need it to prevent Trumps
funksands

7 days ago
Exactly AD
funksands

7 days ago
Ad – he inherited property, not a lot of cash. he kept spending like it was coming in at the same rate as when he was a young man. Even Trump was impacted by tax rate cuts when Reagan became president. Funny, isn’t it?
sillylittleme

7 days ago
well i’m fallin asleep… see everyone next week an i’ll see about getting some other libs coming around too. nite folks
Harleigh

7 days ago
Night Haleigh. Smoke em if you got em
funksands

7 days ago
Funk – Shouldn’t Repubs support an Estate Tax of 90% on billionaires? Then their kids would have to make it on their own. Isn’t that they’re mantra?
AdLib 7 days ago
Nite Harleigh – have a good first week on the job and don’t forget to keep you and your weed dry!!
sillylittleme

7 days ago
But that limits free speech Ad. Why do you want billionaire kids to be born with less speech?
funksands

7 days ago
slm – Not to mention that Trump attacked Reagan back then!
AdLib 7 days ago
The founders intended the wealthy to pass on free speech to their kids
funksands

7 days ago
Funk – Have you got change for a big Speech?
AdLib 7 days ago
Here is the Trump Palin Interview:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/heres-the-sarah-palin-donald-trump-interview-youve-been-waiting-for/

Here’s the Sarah Palin-Donald Trump Interview You’ve Been Waiting For
Tonight on One America News Network, Sarah Palin interviewed Donald Trump. No, you aren’t dreaming. Yes, that actually happened.

MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Thanks for that, Murph! SHould be a good laugh!
AdLib 7 days ago
Do you take BitCoin
funksands

7 days ago
Parting Gift!
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
If only they spoke in English.
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph, that’s terrorism
funksands

7 days ago
Funk – Media terrorism.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad – of course he did. I still can’t find a picture of him in the movie Two Weeks Notice dressed as a clown. That would be fantastic. Hey Ad – do you work for/at a production company in LA?
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Just watching it…..these two were meant for each other….
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
slm – Aw, that’s got to be on the web somewhere!
AdLib 7 days ago
They should make out on screen and then smoke cigarettes and fire machine guns
funksands

7 days ago
Murph – better you than me!!
sillylittleme

7 days ago
This time, for real
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – That’s the future Secretary of State you’re talking about!
AdLib 7 days ago
Funk !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Ad – I think if Trump wins he’s going for Sarah redux
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Funk – Trump only likes foriegn imports.
AdLib 7 days ago
funksands

7 days ago
Ad – especially on his arm
sillylittleme

7 days ago
slm – Sarah as VP?
AdLib 7 days ago
That happened at the end of the interview
funksands

7 days ago
Ad – sure why not?
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Ad, that’s true. Sarah is about 30 years too old for Donald
funksands

7 days ago
Funk – Was that Trump’s plane? Thought I saw him in there being served by an undocumented immigrant.
AdLib 7 days ago
funksands

7 days ago
Ad, that was actually Trump’s recent Des Moines rally
funksands

7 days ago
You guys are hilarious.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Was that Ted Nugent jumping his plane?
AdLib 7 days ago
while crapping his pants
funksands

7 days ago
I’ll be right back I’m laughing too hard and my bladder is screaming
sillylittleme

7 days ago
The Trump Cabinet: Palin, Nugent, Todd Aiken, Montgomery Burns and the winner of this year’s Miss Universe pagent.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad – I like the one who kept saying and such, can’t we have her?
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Trump has already promised the position of Secretary of state to this contestent:

AdLib 7 days ago
funksands

7 days ago
Ad – you are too quick
sillylittleme

7 days ago
She’ll have us invading West Korea within a week
funksands

7 days ago
Funk – It’s East Korea, you know Far East
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Well folks I’ve got to go freshen my cocktail. Have lovely weekend. We’ve got 5 days of rain coming and boy howdy do we need it. Whole state is burning.
funksands

7 days ago
Night SLM
funksands

7 days ago
Funk – stay funny and safe
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Night Ad
funksands

7 days ago
Thanks ya kindly.
funksands

7 days ago
“I think that all US Americans should have like a right to nuke rulers in Iran…that are not unlike rulers in America in their size.”
AdLib 7 days ago
LOL
funksands

7 days ago
Night Funk!
AdLib 7 days ago
12″?
sillylittleme

7 days ago
So Ad how was your week?
sillylittleme

7 days ago
slm – Unlike some men, rulers don’t exaggerate. So, yes, 12″.
AdLib 7 days ago
Pretty good week, had a long weekend fixing the issues on our site but all turned out well. How about you?
AdLib 7 days ago
I still can’t get over the Trump in MA thing. The son of one of the most popular car dealerships who has taken over within the past decade took a huge dump on his father’s legacy.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
I actually had a pretty good week. Great weather, connecting up with some old friends and actually slept 8 hours last night.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Oh, another son of a wealthy man supporting a son of a wealthy man…who’s a loon. Not so surprising.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad – ya but this putz has just expanded, I guess he’ll be filing for bankruptcy soon, tee hee he
sillylittleme

7 days ago
That sounds pretty nice! Any plans for this weekend?
AdLib 7 days ago
Yup, pre-fall closet clean out. Clothing donation and then I go shopping.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
I don’t know, the way our economy has been tilted towards the wealthy, even idiots who are wealthy make money. Like…Trump?
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad – he made it from TV and selling his name, some from creating an app, it is lunacy to allow this to continue
sillylittleme

7 days ago
That’s actually very satisfying, cleaning out the old then shopping for the new! My daughter plays softball on a travel team so a little practice with her new team this weekend is all that’s on the books so far.
AdLib 7 days ago
Well that sounds like fun. I envy your out of door activity compared to my likely stuck indoors for hours activity.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
I always think about this, if it wasn’t Trump, it would eventually have been someone else. The Tea Party has been led down this pathas they’ve been used, eventually, the tail starts wagging the dog in these kinds of situations. We need the Repubs to implode by picking a truly unelectable candidate. This will be for the best, in the end.
AdLib 7 days ago
I still suspect he’s pulling a trick somehow. Who the joke is on remains to be seen…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
This is history repeating itself. The establishment Repubs whipped up their base and got Goldwater who destroyed their party for many years. Now, it’s Trumps turn to play that role (or at least damage Jeb and the others so whoever wins the nom is weakened and trashed).
AdLib 7 days ago
Yes but to what end? What about the conservadems? Are they gonna reform a moderate republican party?
sillylittleme

7 days ago
This IS the trick! Taking over one of our two political parties and maybe even being the Repub candidate against a Dem for the Presidency? He doesn’t have respect for our democracy,mit’s just a cynical game he thinks he can win now. Good.
AdLib 7 days ago
I agree it is long past time to destroy the republicans they are such a cancer
sillylittleme

7 days ago
If humanity survives, they will be studying this era for a long time to come
sillylittleme

7 days ago
I wonder what will happen if the establishment Repubs force Jeb on their core voters. Might they leave and form a third party? Or might they take over the GOP more fully and force the establishment Repubs to start up their own party? Or will both act like they’re in War of the Roses and both refuse to move out of the GOP, staying locked in combat from now on? Seems like it will have to be one of those three options. And in any case, their party is profoundly damaged.
AdLib 7 days ago
Humanity will survive, it will just move a bit inland.
AdLib 7 days ago
If I was Reince Preibus, I’d resign and let them elect someone else.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
But who else would hire a total failure and wimp named Preibus?
AdLib 7 days ago
Yes, but how will development impact the great expanses of open land left? And what of the quality of air, etc. It isn’t going to be easy having mass migrations…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
A lobbying firm? He can hand out checks to Congress
sillylittleme

7 days ago
If only Dems could win back control over state legislatures by 2020 and all the gerrymandering could be reversed,mother Repubs could be locked out of national office until they regain some sanity.
AdLib 7 days ago
Damn spellcheck!
AdLib 7 days ago
Gerrymandering will be reversed in 2020. I assumed you meant MFers. LOL
sillylittleme

7 days ago
We need all able bodies to the voting booth this year and two years later.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Who is Lawrence Lessig? I keep meaning to ask you that?
sillylittleme

7 days ago
I was being a bit flippant but yes, there will be some severe challenges in the upcoming decades that will change the way and the location where people live but ultimately, human beings are resilient and necessity is the mother of invention. There will be a lot of suffering and death, especially in third world nations as climate change reduces available food and potable water. Some horrible times lay ahead that the world shouldn’t have to go through but greed has caused it. Humanity will survive but there will be some great costs.
AdLib 7 days ago
I just think it isn’t as rosy a picture as you think. The scientific community is starting to get loud…
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Heh! Maybe I did mean MFers!
AdLib 7 days ago
So Lessig? Any clue?
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Lessig is a noted academic who has worked in DC, for SCOTUS judges and as a Constitutional and rights scholar. Why?
AdLib 7 days ago
Is he running for president? Or is he working to get Citizens’ United overturned?
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Both? I heard he discussed running but don’t know if he filed to run. He is an opponent of CU.
AdLib 7 days ago
Oh, I keep seeing people talk about him, I was just wondering.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
My perception of him is very positive.
AdLib 7 days ago
Would he make a good president?
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Maybe. He’s a very bright Constitutional scholar like Obama. Don’t know that he has the charisma to win over voters.
AdLib 7 days ago
I did sign up a while ago when he started a campaign against CU, I just didn’t realize that he was running. Just wondered whether he was gaining any traction and if he had more than one issue to offer the public.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
I don’t think he has any base constituency though. Or a great deal of money. So, I don’t think he would stand much of a shot against Hillary or Bernie…or Biden.
AdLib 7 days ago
Why do you think Biden is taking so long to decide whether to get in or not
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Because it’s a big gamble. If Hillary makes more missteps, she could trend down and he or Bernie could ascend. But if this is the low point for Hillary and she levels out and/or rises, he could be left looking like a failure that no one wanted and end his political career on that note.
AdLib 7 days ago
Then why even think about it. If he knows that he is being set up to fail why take the risk?
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Ok it’s just about one here. So I will say adieu. Have a great week Ad and have fun hanging with your daughter and her teammates.
sillylittleme

7 days ago
Well, many Dems are worried that Hillary could get knocked out during the primary and according to recent polls, Biden would be their second choice. Interestingly, Bernie supporters also said Biden would be their second choice. So, there are possible paths for him, they’re just not likely. They’re a gamble and he has to worry about going out of politics as VP or a losing candidate.
AdLib 7 days ago
Sleep well, slm! Have a relaxing, sorting out weekend!
AdLib 7 days ago
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