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AdLib On July - 24 - 2015
Vox Populi, our live weekly chat begins tonight at 7pm PDT. Hope to see you then!
AdLib 7 days ago
Boom!
funksands

7 days ago
Hey Ad, wazz up?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Hey funk!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Hey KT!
funksands

7 days ago
When you arrive, don’t forget to say “Hi!” or “Trump who?” when you arrive.
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey KT and Funk!
AdLib 7 days ago
Have I mentioned how much I love the erhu?
funksands

7 days ago
The erhu?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Not today, Funk!
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey Murph!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I have a lovely elderly Chinese gentleman playing it right across the street. It’s really lovely
funksands

7 days ago
Hi Moiph!
funksands

7 days ago
And hello to you too dear moderator
funksands

7 days ago
What is the erhu? I’m not familiar with it.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Hello…kt, funk, ad…..
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I think the Repubs are right. The Iran deal should have been better. They should have agreed to buy iWatches for all Americans.
AdLib 7 days ago
It’s that 1-stringed bowed instrument
funksands

7 days ago
Hey Murph!
AdLib 7 days ago
Ah, thanks funk.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
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funksands

7 days ago
crap
funksands

7 days ago
JOn Stewart recently said that watching Trump’s campaign was as much fun as eating ice cream on a roller coaster made of blow jobs! HA!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Anyway, you know what it is now
funksands

7 days ago
Boy am I going to miss him
funksands

7 days ago
Yes, I do. I think I’ve heard that before and just couldn’t remember.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
You need an http URLthat ends with a graphic last name like . jpg.
AdLib 7 days ago
Yes yes yes
funksands

7 days ago
Me too funk. He will definitely be missed.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
You’re like that paperclip Ad: “It looks like you are trying to download a picture”
funksands

7 days ago
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I respect someone going out at the top of their game to pursue other passions. It’s got to be an utterly exhausting gig. I’ve listened to interviews with people on the show and they say that Stewart basically works 13-14 hour days working on everything on the show top to bottom
funksands

7 days ago
KT – saw that, so funny. Imagine how hard it is for him not to spend every show on Trump.
AdLib 7 days ago
well Ad, he’s doing pretty well, all things considered.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
The Fellaciator!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
The concerted effort by the establishment to take Trump down almost makes me feel sorry for him. But mostly it just makes me cackle
funksands

7 days ago
Trump or Stewart?
AdLib 7 days ago
brb
funksands

7 days ago
I guess you guys saw the Wyatt Cenac flap. I can understand Wyatt’s feelings, but I think he is really being a bit thin skinned. Stewart does impressions of just about any ethnicity, including his own.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I like that Trump has threatened 3rd party on Repubs, they were organizing to get him out, now what?
AdLib 7 days ago
Maybe The Donald can be the GOP version of Ralph Nader.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Vote Hillary. Vote Trump.
AdLib 7 days ago
Maddow had a great piece on what Perot’s candidacy really meant for the election results. Good stuff. Her staff is really impressive
funksands

7 days ago
Maddow may be all that is left over at MSNBC in the liberal purge that seems to be underway there.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I have a wait and see attitude toward Hillary. I’d love to see Sanders get the nod, but I do worry about people misunderstanding the real brand of socialism that Sanders promotes. It could be a deal breaker with many dems. I hope I’m wrong.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Hello Planet. Happy “National Tequila Day”
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Too true Murph. Entirely predictable unfortunately
funksands

7 days ago
Hola Sabreen!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Sabreen, it so good to see you!
funksands

7 days ago
And how are you celebrating this august holiday?
funksands

7 days ago
I think MSNBC should definitely get rid of Scarborough.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
No chance. Scarborough is locked in for years
funksands

7 days ago
Funk, saw that. Maddow is right. Perot didn’t help Clinton win.
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey Sabreen!
AdLib 7 days ago
Why do you say that, funk?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
scarborough is not on the list as he is not a liberal.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Ad, I’ll admit that I myself had that conventional wisdom
funksands

7 days ago
MSNBC will nosedive. Deservedly.
AdLib 7 days ago
They are really going to give Chuck Todd his own show? Really? Whatever for?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Funk, I’m pretty “straight” forward. A shot of Tequila with a wedge of lime and salt to lick
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Sab, I like that. Clean and neat
funksands

7 days ago
Yes, his new show will be called, “MSNBC’s Chuck You!”
AdLib 7 days ago
i also think MSNBC should bring back Olberman. He may be a bit egotistical, but he did say it like it was.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Funk –
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Aren’t we all hungry for more Chuck Todd? He’s just so addictive.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad….MSNBC ratings have been of for a long while and the fix appears to be to make it more like an NBC secondary…thus Williams and Todd and a hard news focus
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Chuck Turd.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I think “UP! Chuck” is a great name for his show
funksands

7 days ago
OK Sabreen, don’t say hi, see if I care!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Murph. – Because every show is redundant except Maddow. They all cover the same few stories with no depth. Boring.
AdLib 7 days ago
I read that MSNBC has hired the black Republican Amy whats-her-face. I wouldn’t her even if she weren’t Republican. Talk about arrogant.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
That said, I won’t miss Ed Schulz’s show. I like the guy, I like his politics, but his show is terrible. The Cycle is awful and Alex Wagner is just dull. Good people a victim of poor programming and production
funksands

7 days ago
Oops “wouldn’t LIKE her”
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Amy Holmes. She’s very very smart. Very dangerous.
funksands

7 days ago
How about Melissa Harris-Perry? I like her and think she is smart and courageous.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I like both “Up Chuck!” And “Chuck Turd”!
AdLib 7 days ago
KT, I like her a lot, and I like her show very much too. I always try to watch a few minutes of her show on Saturdays.
funksands

7 days ago
Yep. Holmes. I really don’t like her attitude. She seems so full of herself.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
She is very impressive funk, IMO.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I wish Chris Hayes would go back to his gig on the mornings. His show on the weekends was fantastic. His nightly show? Not so much.
funksands

7 days ago
The MSNBC morning shows on the weekend are among their best.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Hey Sabreen, I’m over here!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT, I agree. She’s really begun to hit her stride. Her voice is very clear now.
funksands

7 days ago
Perry and Kornacki…..
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
KT – I see you, darling.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Hi Sab
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph!!
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Murph, I just am not a big fan of Kornacki. I don’t know what it is, but he doesn’t do much for me.
funksands

7 days ago
I think MSNBC has been putting out feelers on social networks. It would be nice if they let their viewers decide!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ah shucks Sabreen! How have you been?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I got rid of cable, so of course I can’t watch any of the pundits. Actually, they all were beginning to get on my nerves. Maybe I’m becoming grumpy in my foxy old age
Sabreen60

7 days ago
What I like about both is lots of content…..unusual guest lineup….hard, in-depth discussion.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I must admit, I don’t have much skin the game, since I dropped my cable a few years ago.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
The challenge is that liberals (like with everything else) are as easy to herd as wet cats. They get their information from dozens of different sources, and are very fickle consumers. IMO of course
funksands

7 days ago
Yeah funk, those pesky free thinkers!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Sabreen, you are entitled to your grumpiness
funksands

7 days ago
You too, KT. I breath better.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
HA!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
For me Sabreen it was a combination of cost/benefit and way too many commercials. Why pay people to try to sell me things.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Murph, for sure. The long form show really allows a depth of exploration of a topic.
funksands

7 days ago
I’m stuck with cable right now, but am trying to extricate myself from Comcast. Ugh
funksands

7 days ago
Good luck funk!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – Cost was part of it too. As far as I was concerned there were a gazillion channels with nothing on. And when Comcast began charging for 20 year old movies, we said enough!
Sabreen60

7 days ago
SO. How about Hillary….more trouble (although exagerrated), a dull campaign, and growing unfavorables….
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Comcast sucks more than just about anything I’ve ever known. AND it is the only provider in our area. Monopolies suck. There’s an upstart company trying to shoehorn into our area. I’m on board the second they arrive.
funksands

7 days ago
Murph, I didn’t read the NYT article, but over at TOD, people were saying that NTY got it wrong and should apologize.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Enough is right. Commercials are inescapable, even on the net, so why pay a provider to inundate us with more commercials?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Hillary HAS to be (and likely is) prepared for the kitchen sink to be thrown at her. The attacks against Obama will look petty compared to the shitstorm they’re going to launch against her.
funksands

7 days ago
Dunk, Sab, I deal with Direct and since the ATT merger they are using more contract workers, and their base prices keep moving up.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Sabers they did get it wrong. Once again the cream of our reporting crop took dubious information leaked by operatives and reported it as fact.
funksands

7 days ago
funk, I agree, The GOP would rather have a biracial president than a female president.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Speaking of “Obama” I see that the “Kenyan” has gone home. Somebody said he should have said “it’s good to be home” just so Trump’s head would explode.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Especially a female Clinton President.
funksands

7 days ago
I think as long as someone has a computer, there really is no need for cable TV.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Sabreen, I watched some coverage of his arrival on streaming Kenyan television. What an amazing experience he must be having right now. Amazing
funksands

7 days ago
True dat funk!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Sab…that is the upshot re.criminal investigation but her server problem is going to continue to be a bonanza for the GOP
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
funk, he’s certainly earned it.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
2 months tops until Vince Foster re-surfaces in the “news”
funksands

7 days ago
KT, he’s had pretty damn good month or two.
funksands

7 days ago
E-mails and Benghazi! Over and over.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I am findingthe lack of GOP KenraPhoria of note.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
As we have too, funk.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Murph – Unfortunately Comcast is all we have in this new development. We’ve only been here 4 years. We bought this condo in a 62 and over development.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
The Iran deal may very well be the most impressive accomplishment by an administration in quite some time. Really excellent and unprecedented
funksands

7 days ago
I love how all the gopers are saying how bad the Iran deal is, yet they haven’t even read it.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Funk, will the GOP be able to derail the Iran agreement. P5 Plus 1 minus 1?
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Obama should have punked them and released a fake document that was blank and watched them hang themselves in the media
funksands

7 days ago
Murph, no. The fix is in.
funksands

7 days ago
The neo-cons will die a slow painful death. They’re already “circling the drain.”
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Funk, how so.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
They’ve purposely structured this so they will (at worst) vote “Disapproval” which Obama will veto, and then it will be over. It was done deliberately. They didn’t have to consider this an agreement. Since they have, both Houses would need to override a veto, which won’t happen
funksands

7 days ago
KT, for now. They’ll be back.
funksands

7 days ago
Well, they’ll certainly try, no doubt.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
That guy outside is still going. Awesome
funksands

7 days ago
Funk….Kerry certaily put it in terms that made the GOP look like isolationist amateurs.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Not hard, Murph
funksands

7 days ago
Howdy PPO
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Hi PPO! How are you?
Sabreen60

7 days ago
I think the neo-cons have a real uphill battle, considering how they really fucked up Iraq. They’ve learned NOTHING!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
What’s up mate?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I still can’t believe they pulled it off. Against the backdrop of all the betrayal we’ve subjected them to. Against the background of all the harm they’ve perpetrated and the leadership of that poor country. To pull this off was remarkable!!
funksands

7 days ago
Hi, everybody! Whadda we up to today?
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
How ya goin’ Pink
funksands

7 days ago
KT – Why would any sane person listen to the Iraq warmongers?
Sabreen60

7 days ago
you got me, Sabreen. Unfortunately, there are a lot of really dumb, and crazy RWers.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Funk….Iagree….here in the sordid heartland, the deal is another Obama betrayal….
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I read where Turkey is now going to let US use two of their military bases. PBO ain’t effing around.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Yeah, Murph, peace is such a bummer!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Finestkind, funk – just catching up with the subject du jour.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Murph, even the President’s supporters I think don’t appreciate the special-ness of this accomplishment
funksands

7 days ago
Hey all, sorry I had to pop away for a bit.
AdLib 7 days ago
Sabreen, I think Turkey just realized they’re next in ISIS’ sights, so allowing the US to use bases there is a no-brainer
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
I think Iran knows what time it is. They’ve got ISIL to deal with along with the sanctions.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Sabers the Atlantic had an article about analysis of the Iran deal. The three panelists were all supporters of the Iraq war. Sometimes the media, even the good ones are just lazy-asses
funksands

7 days ago
Funk….it is international affairs, not most Americans strong suit.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
ISIS is, for now, mainly a middle-east, European problem, but they do need to be stopped. When an organization is even more radical than al qaida, Holy shit! No pun intended.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I think Dems should contact their Congresspeople and let them know that if they vote against the Iran deal, we will vote against them in a primary and we won’t contribute a penny to them in the future. Who are they most loyal to? AIPAC’s money or their constituents?
AdLib 7 days ago
Hey PPO, do you have a pilot’s license?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
We have the Bush/Cheney Iraq war to thank for ISIL.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
KT, perhaps, but they use social media to radicalise youth and their message is penetrating more than I’d like to know.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
I hope hope hope that this is the beginning of Iran engagement. They are one of the only rational actors in the Middle East. We could work with these guys if we’d pull our heads out of our orfices
funksands

7 days ago
Exactly PPO. They do need to be stopped.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad, I already have. Thankfully all 3 of my Congress critters seem likely to support it.
funksands

7 days ago
KT, not any more. did have but it was too expensive . Flew Cessnas, AA1 Yankees and Islanders
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
funk, the GOPers just can’t get out of the past. It’s not in their DNA.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Funk…I wouid not overstate Iranian rationality or civility.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
AdLib – Did that. One of my Senators is Cardin, who is in Bibi’s pocket. He is truly disgusting when it has anything to do with Israel.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
That’s cool PPO. I went to flight school, many years ago, and logged 14 hours, but, as you say, it’s expensive.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Murph, I am speaking comparatively of course.
funksands

7 days ago
And the only way to be able to work with Iran in the future and have the chance of supporting a true democratic government there, is engagement. But these Repub morons just kneejerk on this and think, “Evil country! Cuba and Iran! Just punish them!” Idjits.
AdLib 7 days ago
Weird seeing 15000 Blue Jays fans at a Mariners game
funksands

7 days ago
Funk. What is going to move the Iranian government is a huge younger generation who want to enage the world….
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Isn’t Iran partially democratic? And must they be like us?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Yep. Open it up. Waaaaaay up
funksands

7 days ago
Sabreen – That’s a drag but you should still let him know you’re opposing him from now on if he votes as Bibi’s boy.
AdLib 7 days ago
Isn’t international politics so Effin Dumb!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
KT – Yes and no, they do have a democracy but they have crushed those who they don’t approve of running. The ultimate power there is religious.
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad, very true. Let him know that 86% of voting American Jews support the deal. 0% of voting Israeli Jews in America support the deal
funksands

7 days ago
Yeah Ad, that is true. Theocracies suck. Maybe they can find some sort of middle ground.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
AdLib- Every time I write him, I receive a “form” letter. Unfortunately, the stupid ass people in Maryland voted in the Rethug Hogan, so I don’t even know if Cardin would lose if primaried.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Folks, I gotta go make dinner for the missus. Have a great weekend!!
funksands

7 days ago
Japan, great allies and friends, even after we nuked them Germany – great friends and allies, even afer WWII. China…. I can go on, but you can see the insanity of forever demonizing a country.. until they’re your pals.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Later funk!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Good night Funk. Have fun cooking and have a great weekend!
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Funk – This is important to keep pointing out. When hammering the Israeli government under Netanyahu, important to mention that it is not an indictment of the many Israelis who want peace. It may be a majority in Israel but it’s not a massive majority. Netanyahu almost lost control of power, clearly there are many Israelis who feel as we do.
AdLib 7 days ago
PPO but, but, but Cuba and Iran are different…
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Night Funk!
AdLib 7 days ago
Good night Funk
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph,
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Good Night, Funk!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
I would say that Germany’s leaders in WWII and Japan’s had it coming, but the people of those countries sure didn’t deserve what they got. Isn’t that always the way?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Sabreen – At least you do it out of principle despite the disrespectful form letter responses. They still keep tabs on how many letters oppose him.
AdLib 7 days ago
Money always wins out, though, Ad. It pretty much always boils down to the haves and have nots.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – Agreed, surely the Japanese who were in the process of surrendering did not deserve being atom bombed.
AdLib 7 days ago
brb
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
KT – Can’t disagree with that but if a pol sees his constituency turning on him, he has to re-consider whether he wants a well funded losing campaign.
AdLib 7 days ago
ad…funding is the key to message control and dissemination..a tough choice
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
No, they didn’t Ad. At the time, any citizen of Japan over the age of 14 was expected to fight any imminent invasion. Even women and old people. I’m sure they didn’t want that role. It was the Bushido warrior’s code that really made Japan suffer needlessly.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
AdLib – But the problem is far too many people are not involved.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Murph – Cuba and Iran are different but the principle is the same. You can’t isolate a nation to get what you want from them. Only diplomacy offers a path.
AdLib 7 days ago
I think it’s a good thing that we have opened relations with Cuba. I wonder just how similar Castro’s son is to his old man. And the USSR no longer exists.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – It was really the US that wanted to show the world that they had the atom bomb and what it could do. They wanted to use it so they did. They didn’t need to.
AdLib 7 days ago
I would love to go to Cuba. I have friends that went a few years ago by way of Jamaica.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Sabreen – So true and so frustrating. The apathetic people are the ones handing the power to the greedy. All they have to do is vote and this would be a very different country. if we had an 80% turnout of eligible voters? America would be a very different and better place. I’m all for mandatory voting if it can bring about those kinds of numbers.
AdLib 7 days ago
KT…..Ad….best estimates were that the cost of an invasion of the Japanese Home Islands would have been half a million U.S. casualties…the Japanese had a lot of troops in reserve AND the Soviets were waiting to pounce if given an opportunity. The A Bomb was meant to shock the Japanese government into surrender, given that the narrative claimed there were dozens of other weapons in reserve and that the Imperial City was next.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Ad….for the GOP Cuba and Iran are the same….both no-go zones no matter what.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I agree, to a point. We offered surrender terms more than once, but Japan refused, every time. I know we wanted Stalin to see the power nukes had, and Stalin was eyeing Japan for their next conquest. I think the first bomb was needed. Not the second one. More people died in the fire bombing of Japanese cities than did those who died from a boms, even many years later. I think the second bomb was merely a cruel scientific experiment. was
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Well folks, I’ve gotta run. Have a great weekend and week. Nite. Nite.
Sabreen60

7 days ago
Isn’t it ridiculous that the US could negotiate with North Korea, Iran, China, Russia, etc…but tiny Cuba, they are so dangerous, the Repubs insist we should shun them completely to make them stop being Cuba.
AdLib 7 days ago
Night Sabreen!
AdLib 7 days ago
Exactly Murph!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Sab, good to see you.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Sweet dreams Sabreen!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad….the GOP counts on a woefully ignorant base.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – My proposition is that the US could have dropped an A Bomb in the Pacific, close enough to Japan to scare them but far away enough from them to cause no harm. I think we could have gotten the same results without killing so many innocent people in such horrible ways.
AdLib 7 days ago
Murph, FOX NEWS is absolute proof of that!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad….thee was talk of dropping it in Tokyo harbor. After Okinawa I think all bets were off
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – Hence the rise of the Ignorance Candidate, Trump.
AdLib 7 days ago
Trump is the living embodiment of teapartyism triumphant.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I disagree Ad. Japan would not surrender, even after the first bomb wiped out an entire city. We should have stopped after the first and given Japan time to realize what we had done and could do again. As I said, the second bomb was just a cruel scientific experiment.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Murph – I think that was a mistake. America hasn’t really considered what it meant to be the first nation to drom an atomic bomb on another country.
AdLib 7 days ago
The Tea Party is the Second Know Nothings.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
You must also remember the sheer hatred this country had for Japan at the time. Their murderous treatment of POWs was also a factor.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Japan was not innocent. Not at all. Too bad that the ordinary citizens of that country had to suffer so much. That is the way it always goes, though.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Murph – It’s kind of funny that the GOP has been pandering so hard to the simple minded, anti-government hatred, with Palin as one of their key stepping stones, that when they finally got their Tea Party type Billionaire to run, they want to stop him so they can nominate another establishment Repub who will pander to them again but not deliver what they want.
AdLib 7 days ago
KT, that’s my point. even after the atrocities perpetrated, the US still worked with Germany and Japan and forged new alliances. Why not Iran?
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
I would like to think that the GOP is on it’s last legs, but ideology is a very hard thing to overcome.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
The Tea Party were meant to be political cannon fodder – thus the sponsorship by the Kochs as organized by Freedom Works – but they have never quite marched in synch so the funding went away but the cancer had been sown and has spread. It is now at the root of much of their base and provides the glue holding it in place.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
KT – For me, the issue is applying mass guilt, making all people of a country guilty of the sins of a minority and justifying killing any of them. Again, for me, it’s the kind of justification ISIS and Al Qaeda use, that all Americans deserve to be killed.
AdLib 7 days ago
I agree PPO. Iran has not really been all that vicious towards us. Yeah, the hostages and all that, but that pales in comparison to Germany and Japan.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
I agree Ad, until WWII, the bombing of civilians was considered taboo. But, that’s the nature of such massive warfare. Where do you draw a line, when your enemy draws no lines at all?
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
PPO – Agreed, reasonable people would want a normalizing of relationships with Iran. The key word here is reasonable.
AdLib 7 days ago
KT – ideology, yes, but Theology as well.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Isn’t it sad that unreason is still so prevalant? Sad indeed.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT and Ad….Iran, as Persia, has a profound opportunity to provide the Middle East with religious that transcends absolutism. This deal is an important step in that direction.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
no doubt PPO. Samey same, in my book.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
So true, KT. Even have normal-ish relations with Vietnam, who whupped us!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
I agree Murph. The Shias,don’t seem to be as hard core as the Sunnis.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Murph – This is the same thing that happened with the previous iteration of the Tea Party, The Moral Majority. They too were patronized and manipulated as hicks but they too grew tired of being treated that way and eventually became the tail wagging the dog. Which led to the crash of the GOP and the Moral Majority. When they finally win, it destroys both of them. If the Tea Party finally get “their” candidate as the Presidential candidate from the GOP and he loses massively, both will again be destroyed for years, repeating history.
AdLib 7 days ago
Shhhhhh, PPO. It was a draw! Don’t ya know.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Peace with honor, is what Nixon called it, I believe. HA!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT, Sorry! Forgot that, like Korea, it wasn’t a war at all!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
KT….as the Muslim minority they have learned to get along. I agree with your assessment.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Yep. Just a police action, with fighter jets, tanks, artillery, machine guns, napalm…etc.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT, yep. Rather like inner America these days, innit?
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Ad…good comparison….Know nothingism melted down in much the same way.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
…. without the napalm
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Murph, they follow Muhammed’s nephew, not the prophet himself. Maybe some lee way there. I think.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Yes it is PPO.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Murph – Agreed, a normalized Iran would put welcome pressure against the absolutist Muslims. Don’t we want Iran to become a more responsible nation? How else can they be influenced if we won’t have a relationship with them…and be in a position to offer carrots instead of always sticks. The Iranian people don’t all hate America, many of them like America, they just can’t speak out publicly to say so.
AdLib 7 days ago
america’s police forces are far too militarized now. Our cops are at war with our nations poor people, when they should be “protecting and serving.” You can blame racism and the war on drugs for that horrible realty.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT and Ad…..with you both…
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
BRB
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
And ol’ Scott Walker is singing that McCain classic, “Bomb-omb-bomb, bomb- bomb Iran!” Really? On his first day in Bizarro World where he becomes President, he bombs Iran? How idiotic is this guy to say that?
AdLib 7 days ago
KT, the Koran is one book with different interpretations. Here, there are many different printings and interpretations of the Bible. Anyway, if we’re ‘Christians” shouldn’t we be reading only the New Testament?
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
KT – It’s almost alternating days, police abusing or causing the death of an African American and some lunatic with a gun killing innocent citizens. You can almost set your watch by it.
AdLib 7 days ago
Good question PPO. I’m an atheist, but I see the New Testament as god’s kid correcting his dad’s crankiness! It’s like, damn dad, you were a real prick, maybe we should soften our message here!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
The GOP alternative is the threat of military action…that is all they have as there is nothing else.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
KT, beautiful and accurate simile, but it wouldn’t suit the fundamentalists to talk only of peaceful methods to resolve conflict now, would it?
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Sure Ad, it’s war. But when you have mandatory minimum sentencing for non-violent drug offenses, which are totally draconian, a for profit prison system, combined with decades old racism, you get what we see every day. It’s absolutely fucked up and not anywhere close to what our founders intended.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Murph – Do you think Repubs genuinely want to go to war against Iran or is it just cynical pandering to their base and a way to stick a thumb in Obama’s eye after achieving a peace treaty. How would we pay for such a massive war? Do they really think the public is more scared of Iran than ISIS, neither of which really threatens this nation.
AdLib 7 days ago
nope PPO. Fire and brimstone, and all that, cha know!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad, ISIS is a danger just by radicalizing US youth to do terrorist acts. That’s colose enough to home for me.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
KT – No kidding. The extremists in the GOP who have brought about much of the over-arming of Americans and the insitutionalization of racism, never stop to consider the consequences. When the last straw breaks the camel’s back, and I think we’re pretty close, society becomes more fragile and worse things can happen.
AdLib 7 days ago
It’s funny PPO, but I see all the home grown gun violence here as a bigger threat.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad…it is a combination…..zealots believe in the sword…pragmatists believe in winning at all costs….a match made in heaven. I saw former Congressman West’s speech in Times Square last week and the crowd reaction…madness afoot.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
We do seem to either be on the brink now, or rapidly approaching it, and nobody can seem to find the brakes.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT, THERE WILL BE FIRE AND BRIMSTONE SPREADING OVER THE EARTH, AND PESTILENCE SHALL SPREAD EVERYWHERE! The rest of the forecast is for sunny periods and scattered showers.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
brb. Smoko
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
LOL PPO! And lets not forget that our forcast calls for a Mexican high, followed by Canadian lows!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
PPO – What’s the difference between a mentally ill young person killing innocent citizens for ISIS and a mentally ill older man killing innocent citizens out of paranoia? The mentally ill are capable of killing, many of those who have killed as fans of ISIS are mentally ill too. The problem is mental illness. Is there anything ISIS could say in a video that would make a reasonable person go out and kill innocent citizens? I don’t think so.
AdLib 7 days ago

KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
KT – I agree, tens of thousands of people have died in the last decade due to gun violence, maybe dozens have been killed by terrorism, there’s no comparison, rampant gun ownership and racism kill far more Americans.
AdLib 7 days ago
The reaction to the most recent spate of shootings in my redneck woods is auto-responses about there being no bad guns only bad people.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Add the crazy idea of being allowed to kill someone, just because a person might feel threatened. Holy shyte! Stand your ground laws are a return to the wild, wild west!
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Murph – Yes, the less educated, emotionally driven types that make up the core of the GOP want simple, physical answers to solving problems. They understand hitting things with hammers to stop them, not negotiating using strategies and intellect.
AdLib 7 days ago
I know Murph, I often ask these gun nuts when is the last time they can remember a gun, jumping up all by itself, and shooting someone.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad…..there is no discussion with folks like that only confrontation.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – Yep, simple answers for those who need them. And BTW, that’s kind of a dumb deflection by them, no bad guns? How can an inanimate object be bad. But it can be dangerous. If a toddler picks up a gun, the gun still isn’t bad…it’s dangerous though in the minds of reasonable people. But to win their argument, they have to say that “liberals” think guns are “bad”.
AdLib 7 days ago
KT…..I get derisive laughter when I make comments like that.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Sad, isn’t it Murph. I believe that people should have a right to keep a gun IN THE HOUSE, for protection, and for hunting, but who needs a fricken weapon that can fire 700 rounds per minute? Who needs to carry concealed weapons, except for cash handlers and women working at night? I think most gun nuts are pussies.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Oh, me too Murph.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Murph – I know, those kinds of folks have a brick wall constructed around their reasoning centers, either you agree with them or you’re an idiot or an adversary. There is no sense of wanting to know the truth. They need to believe in what they do, it is a pillar of their identity and they are beyond reasoning and truth.
AdLib 7 days ago
KT..I ama gun owner. I believe in licensing, registration and limitations on the weapons….most of my neighbors hate me for this.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
KT – It does seem self-explanatory, only people who are frightened need to over-arm themselves. Insecure, frightened people. You know, the GOP base. They spend every day frightening themselves about immigrants, Muslims, black Presidents. They are addicted to fear, hence the Fox News channel, white man’s fear meth.
AdLib 7 days ago
That’s sad. I agree with you, 100%
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
The really sad part Ad, is that many of these morons hold positions of responsibility in our government.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad…that is my experience…..the fall back to nasty labeling and personal attacks is the key indicator that they have lost but they do not,cannot acknowledge it.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
check out the Bill Maher vid above.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad, you may very well have a point about mental illness in youth. I mean, what kind of nutjob would mount a pistol onto a drone and spray bullets everywhere? There’s something very wrong with young peoples’ minds , engineered by the gun lobby and violent video games, IMO
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
KT – Very true, the ignorant cowardly leading the ignorant cowardly.
AdLib 7 days ago
Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies. Groucho Marx
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
KT….one of my neighbors wears a side arm and carries a rifle wherever he goes…..frightening and unstoppable.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Murph – Yep, once they resort to personalizing things, name calling and dissing, it’s because they’ve quickly run out of legit reasons for believing wht they do. So they have to attack and devalue the person, that’s the only game they think they can win and by winning that, they believe they win their argument on the issue.
AdLib 7 days ago
I would never even want to live with such fear. Again, pussies.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad…and with that, claimingthey lostpatience with me, and told me off, they stride away, full of triumphant glory.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
PPO – That is an example of an amoral kid who’s probably seen too many action movies and video games and though it was “cool”.
AdLib 7 days ago
PPO Groucho and Karl….what a hoot.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
PPO – Great quote! Big Groucho fan myself and I like that quote a lot!
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad, perfect receptacle for ISIS poison, dontcha think?
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Always loved Groucho.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
today’s “ammosexuals!”
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ammosexuals, arsenalholics
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
KT – Exactly! These RWs acutally boast about what pussies they are, how scared they are of the outside world. Why don’t their fellow non-cowardly Repubs call them on being the pussies that they are? “I never go anywhere without two guns.” “Then you are a frightened pussy?”
AdLib 7 days ago
Ad, I think you have hit the core of today’s problems – Amoral people hiding behind theocratical rantings to justify evil actions
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
I like it Murph. arsenalholics.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
….. and where are the parents?
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Well, I am done in….so until our next encounter….best to all.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Don’t fogert un abashed greed PPO. People who stock pile can foods, dry goods, water, and guns and ammo, for the coming apocalypse. They need the guns and ammo to keep needy people away. That way, they don’t have to SHARE. You know, like Jeebus wants them to.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Murph – Yep, I swore off debating RWs because you can’t win a point on an issue, it uusually comes down to them lying and throwing around insults. like trying to debate angry chihuahuas. No point.
AdLib 7 days ago
Night Murph!
AdLib 7 days ago
Nice dreams, Murph1
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Ad, I am awash in the rw and not taking them is seen as a white flag…so I battle on…
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
Goodnight, sweet Murph, and may flights of angels sing thee to thy rest!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO Shakespeare! Bardly bidding!
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
PPO – Maybe so. There are so many voices now that justify amorality, from the Kochs to the Kardashians, from Miley Cyrus to Donald Trump, from Wall Street to the Supreme Court. And it’s a relief for some people to get under the amoral umbrella, they can justify doing terrible things.
AdLib 7 days ago
Nite KT…..dreamland awaits.
MurphTheSurf3

7 days ago
I, myself, must call it a night. Peace to all.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
One thing that Obama has displayed is a sense of morality in a time of amorality.
AdLib 7 days ago
Night KT! See you on the Music Thread!
AdLib 7 days ago
Will do Ad.
KillgoreTrout

7 days ago
Always great chatting here with you.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Well, looks like it’s time to close the Vox bar for the night! Have a great weekend KT and PPO! See you here next week!
AdLib 7 days ago
So true, Ad. MAybe THAT will be his greatest legacy – calm among the insanity.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO – I do think that will be how he is remembered.
AdLib 7 days ago
OK, Ad. Sorry I missed so much. Always great. Good night and see you next week.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Night PPO! Same here, always a kick!
AdLib 7 days ago
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