Hope everyone had a very Merry Christmas! Warm up those leftovers, throw a log on the fire and join us tonight for a holiday edition of Vox Populi! Our live weekly chat begins at 7:00pm PST! Hope to see you then!
adlib 7 days ago
Don’t forget to say “Hi!” or “Happy Holidays!” when you arrive!
adlib 7 days ago
Ho, ho, ho? Frankly I am tuckered out, but happy holidays.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
Thanks Murph, Happy Holidays to you.
adlib 7 days ago
New Year’s coming up fast, will be interesting what happens in Jan with an all Repub led Congress.
adlib 7 days ago
So how did your holidays go…?
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
Very well, thanks. Lots of rich food, great presents given and received and a few toasts of holiday cheer. You?
adlib 7 days ago
Mine were ok….I do a lot of outreach work in the holidays and family tim is the break in between. This year seemed more wearisome than most.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
Before the election I wondered if Obama would be better off with a GOP House and Senate. I think that Obama’s lame duck performance was a preview of what is to come- he is better off not having to protect the Dem. flank.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
That’s cool. It’s the one time of year we get some concentrated family time and with a little(r) one, you have to make the most of it while you can.
adlib 7 days ago
It seems that the better times for many Americans have made the bad times for so many I work with even harder to bear.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
Yes, we discussed that. The best thing may be having the GOP in control so they have to take responsibility for their blocking any progress. Having just The House let them blame Obama and the Dems for it all. Harder when you run all of Congress.
adlib 7 days ago
Ho Ho HO ! Is everyone recovered?
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Hi PPO
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
HI Murph!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Hi, Ad!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Merry After Christmas, PPO! Many happy returns…with receipts.
adlib 7 days ago
Of Course! blush
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Quiet one for us here. sun Shining, Cricket at the MCG Monumentally B O R I N G
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Hi, harleigh!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO….cricket….I went to a British Public School for 4.5 years and NEVER came to appreciate it…now rugby!
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
Will anyone be going to see the Interview movie?
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
I’m not recovered but I’m still stoned.
Harleigh

7 days ago
PPO – I think that was the unintentional theme this year, so much tension this year, between Ebola panic, ISIS panic, Repubs taking over The Senate panic and of course, North Korea threatening 9/11 over a movie panic. Having a quiet holiday sure seemed like a good idea.
adlib 7 days ago
Murph, yep! Rugger is the thing. None of your NFL padding and stop/start for real man. Just a lot of biffo!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
PPO – Yes, I will see it just out of principle.
adlib 7 days ago
hi folks
Harleigh

7 days ago
Ad, I think you’re right. we needed a quiet time to chill ( literally for some!)
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Hey Harleigh!
adlib 7 days ago
The Interview is showing at a bunch of St. Louis area theaters. I cannot stand either actor but I might just buy a ticket on line to give them the receipt and then not go.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
People power. Sony has major egg on its face.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Harleigh – Are you stoned from an enhanced Christmas dinner recipe?
adlib 7 days ago
PPO Rugby…..our definition….a big field….one school on one side, one school on the other AND a riot in between.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
we got a good present of thai stick.
Harleigh

7 days ago
Murph, Rugby is a game for thugs, played by gentlemen. Soccer is a game for Gentlemen, played by thugs
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Hi Harleigh!
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
PPO – As I’ve been saying, corporations (and their lawyers) are such cowards, they wouldn’t even imagine doing something out of principle. But when you look like a lackey for North Korea…you can’t quite do business as usual. And unfortunately, they’ll make back a lot of money from giving into the outrage.
adlib 7 days ago
Hey Muph., ad, ppo.
Harleigh

7 days ago
PPO…nice definitions and not ones I have heard before.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
Ad, but they’ll have lost a bundle from the initial pull-out.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Hey Harleigh – Beats a partridge in a pear tree,
adlib 7 days ago
PPO – Yes, this will be a net loss for Sony, they should get a kick in the teeth because it’s also a win for Kim Jong Un but not as much now.
adlib 7 days ago
ate the partridge
Harleigh

7 days ago
Made a bong out of the pears.
adlib 7 days ago
What is the reality of the Internet Outage for 18 hours….a U.S. spook job or something else? And what if this was a NK move to start with?
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
and the pear, deep fried em both!
Harleigh

7 days ago
Here’s the latest 12 days: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbejNNCTr7k
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Our swans got stuck in to the geese. Mayhem!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
lol
Harleigh

7 days ago
PPO – In Vox, no need to add the “v” to YouTube URLs:

adlib 7 days ago
BRB coffee time
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Murph – I have an idea we have a hacker squad working for the US government that can be turned on whoever they choose.
adlib 7 days ago
i had no idea nk had a computer much less internet. it’s a cinch they don’t go thru sk so we had to fet to them thru chuna? i don’t get it
Harleigh

7 days ago
get to them thru china…
Harleigh

7 days ago
How about Putin rushing to help NK threaten the US? Er…a little desperate there Vlad, not much Un can do to help you and you just made us more pissed off at you so expect more sanctions.
adlib 7 days ago
Ad- I agree AND that action is what covinces me that NK was the sponsoring body for whoever broke into Sony. I think it was all about intimidiation and now it is they who have been intimidated. The foreign press is suggesting that there was also a data raid and lots of stuff got grabbed.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
I hope that they don’t disrupt jennifer annistons next movies of the week! LOL
Harleigh

7 days ago
Ad. I read an interesting theory about the gas glut…it is all the result of the Saudis and their allies wanting to undercut Russia/Putin for its support for Assad/Syria which is blocking the connection natural gas pipelines from them through Syria to Turkey to Europe- which of course would be a disaster for Russia…double bind.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
it seems to have really undercut those fuckin frackers! good
Harleigh

7 days ago
Anyone seeing any reduction in fuel surcharges with the airlines, or cheaper foor from the supermarkets? I haven’t
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Sorry! Food
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
nope. gas is still $2.45 gal here
Harleigh

7 days ago
Good evening, all. Just returned home from my third Christmas celebration–one on Christmas, one this afternoon, and one tonight. I’m exhausted and stuffed, so don’t know how long I’ll be here, but wanted to pop in for a bit.
glenn

7 days ago
Harleigh – sheer luxureh! Gas is $4.00 us a gal here!
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Hey glenn, welcome (burp!)
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Harleigh–those prices sure are high in FL. $2.28 here.
glenn

7 days ago
Harleigh – Hollywood is mourning that NK didn’t extort Adam Sandler movies instead.
adlib 7 days ago
PPO–thanks, that helped relieve some of the fullness.
glenn

7 days ago
The airlines are doing nothing on this- they claim that they are just making up for years of crazy fuel costs…the markets? well there the savings will come when the delivery systems run through their current contracts.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
Murph – Riiiiight
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Under $2 in other parts of the US I read. Don’t know thw particulars on the disparities though.
Harleigh

7 days ago
Gas in Missouri is 1.85 today.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
Harleigh–I think it has something to do with local and state taxes. As you go from couny to county here, the price differs.
glenn

7 days ago
Hi Glenn.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
Harleigh…I passed this on to Ad earlier…I read an interesting theory about the gas glut…it is all the result of the Saudis and their allies wanting to undercut Russia/Putin for its support for Assad/Syria which is blocking the connection natural gas pipelines from them through Syria to Turkey to Europe- which of course would be a disaster for Russia…double bind.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
Murph–Wow. Has anyone heard which republican has thanked President Obama for the recovering economy and the lower gas prices?
glenn

7 days ago
The repukes are taking the credit.
Harleigh

7 days ago
Glenn…since the rule remains….all good news for the GOP related to the economy of the middle and lower classes is bad news for the GOP thre cannot be any good new. So while you may think the economy is in recovery mode…well, you would be wrong.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
Harleigh–really? I was asking my question “tongue in cheek”. Are the repubs really taking credit for the lower gas prices?
glenn

7 days ago
Murph – Yes, I read about that as well and I think it’s a real contributing factor for SA and other OPEC nations to strangle Russia and Iran. I think the US has been behind the scenes suggesting this as well. We should expect this to go on for a while.
adlib 7 days ago
Hello JR
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
Hey glenn! Lucky you! Having delicious leftovers tonight!
adlib 7 days ago
Murph–I know. The repubs can manage to make even a rose smell bad with their “rules”.
glenn

7 days ago
LOL remember back to there debates where they each promised a variation of what has happened. Obama never had a majik gas gauge price dialer thingy.
Harleigh

7 days ago
Ad–Actually had “new” food tonight because I was at a different house. It was the neighborhood celebration, so we had different food. It’s all good, though.
glenn

7 days ago
Ad…forgot about the Iran link….yes, but there the pressure from the Saudis and friends is on the U.S. to keep its association with Isis distant and focused on suppressing its nuclear program.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
glenn I may be stoned but wasn’t xmas yesterday?
Harleigh

7 days ago
Harleigh–remember when the mittster said he was going to do all the things for the economy that President Obama has already accomplished? Except repeal Obamacare, of course.
glenn

7 days ago
Harleigh – It’s all so ridiculous, how anyone believes anything the GOP blathers, I’ll never understand. Gas goes up, it’s all Obama’s fault. Gas goes down, uh…let’s not talk about that or if we do, let’s say it should have gone down more if not for Obama!
adlib 7 days ago
Hatred blinds, and deafens…..Obama is hated.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
Hey all. I haven’t heard even a single republican acknowledge any of the good news that’s happened under PBO. When forced to it, don’t they seem to turn it around to make it seem like lower gas prices, more healthcare and less involvement in other country’s wars are a BAD thing?
jjgravitas

7 days ago
glenn – yep, and newty promised $2.50 gas… and Perry…. uh…. mmmm. oops.
Harleigh

7 days ago
glenn – Right, that had to be nice! We’re having leftovers here.
adlib 7 days ago
JR…since the rule remains….all good news for the GOP related to the economy of the middle and lower classes is bad news for the GOP thre cannot be any good new. So while you may think the economy is in recovery mode…well, you would be wrong.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
jjgravitas yes they do but faux just makes their shit up and read it from a teleprompter written by Ailes
Harleigh

7 days ago
Harleigh–Yup. But one granddaughter was missing yesterday, so we had to celebrate with her again this afternoon after she flew in. Then one neighborhood child had been “missing” –at her mother’s (non-custodial parent) house, so we had to celebrate with her and the other neighborhood kids tonight. It’s confusing, I know, but I just kept unwrapping presents and eating, and it was all good!
glenn

7 days ago
Murph, the GOP always hate a Democratic president, they hated Clinton too, with a passion. Competent Democrats in power make the GOP look like what they are: greedy incompetent morons.
jjgravitas

7 days ago
Quick recap on Obama successes Mitt Romney wouldn’t have had. 1. Obamacare is bigger and better and keeping healthcare costs down, ISIS is being pushed back, Putin is being crushed, gas prices are plummeting, Repubs control the Senate. Well…okay, the last thing ain’t great but if you’re a Repub, Obama has presided over non-stop good news!
adlib 7 days ago
JJ Grv…The GOP is a reactionary party in its current configuration – which is why it is going to have a hard time in the next to years have ACT rather than RE-ACT.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
Hey jj! Nice to see you on Vox!
adlib 7 days ago
Murph, Ad–what do you think is going to happen with the newest Supreme Court Obamacare case?
glenn

7 days ago
Hey, Adlib, how was your holiday?
jjgravitas

7 days ago
I do wonder though if the Baggers will rebel against the GOP Estab and try to shut down the DHS in a tantrum against Obama’s EO on immigration.
adlib 7 days ago
JJ–don’t think we’ve met before. Nice to see you here. I agree the gop are greedy, incompetent morons.
glenn

7 days ago
jj – So far, very quiet and relaxed which is very welcome indeed! How was yours?
adlib 7 days ago
Ad–the baggers will find someting to rebel against because that’s their M.O.
glenn

7 days ago
ad…if you are being objective this is so….but by definition the GOP’s subjective position of Obama-hate which is pivotal to disabling Dems and serving their masters in the corporatocracy what is TRUE cannot be true and must be a lie.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
Joni Ernst will get everything straighened out when she gets to DC! LOLOLOL
Harleigh

7 days ago
Harleigh–Yup–she’s going to bring her little 9mm “friend” with her. Not to mention her ball-cutting skills!
glenn

7 days ago
BRB
glenn

7 days ago
Murph – Which is why it’s high time to boycott the MSM for giving creedence to the BS of Repubs now that it has become so obvious and dishonest. And the MSM just pours it out into everyone’s heads as if just its existence makes it worthwhile to report. No, it isn’t news or worthwhile to report.
adlib 7 days ago
Ad, I had family in from out of state, say my sister from Texas. I love her, but she sometimes has strange ideas, like suggesting the economy tanked because of social programs like welfare and medicad. I let it slide.
jjgravitas

7 days ago
Baggers are so easy to fool.
Harleigh

7 days ago
Ernst will lead Republicans to the slaughter. All she’s learned from hogs is that they make great role models for Repubs.
adlib 7 days ago
jj – Yep, have relatives in TX as well and it is most sensible just to let them spout off the nutty stuff that they adopt from nuttier people. You can’t reason someone out of beliefs that they didn’t use reason to acquire. Yep, the economy crashed because of social programs and Wall Street looked in shock like the kid in Home Alone when they got blamed. Now, here, have some mashed potatoes!.
adlib 7 days ago
Did you hear the joke about how President Obama signed an executive order changing the term “Lame Duck President” to “Untethered Badass”?
jjgravitas

7 days ago
LOL good one jj
Harleigh

7 days ago
jj – Now that is something he ought to do!
adlib 7 days ago
Glenn….the SCOTUS and Obamacare….the nitty gritty linguistic challenge from the right will appeal to the strict costructionists…Scalia, Alito, Thomas….but those with a more contextualized approach Soto Mayor, Ginsberg, Kagan will look to intentionality. Which leaves us with Breyer, Kennedy and Roberts. I predict that Roberts will back ACA because he does want his court to be burdened with a legacy of having undone a major social program that was working.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
And I’ll bet Obama’s team has been hard at work building a list of things he can accomplish through EO!
adlib 7 days ago
Ad…the MSM is corporate America.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
JJ…..Untethered Badass…heh, heh, heh…..
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
Murph–great analysis of SCOTUS. Hope it turns out the way you predict.
glenn

7 days ago
jj–I like it! Untethered badass! He should add “untethered blah badass”!
glenn

7 days ago
Glenn…I had to read that three times before I got “blah”!
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
Murph – I would be very surprised if the SCOTUS ripped away healthcare from millions of Americans and hobbled the long-in-the-making universal health care plan of the US…just because of the urging to take wording in the bill so literally with no context. Roberts would go down in history as a villain who caused the death and suffering of millions of Americans.
adlib 7 days ago
Murph–I used “blah” because I don’t want President Obama to be accused of “race baiting”.
glenn

7 days ago
Ad Lib…we are on the same page here…and Roberts (Kennedy and Breyer) all have an easy way out on this on this one. I predict the vote is 6-3
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
Murph – Yep but most Americans believe what they here on “the news” on tv. I know that number keeps going down but it needs to be slashed.
adlib 7 days ago
glenn… but we’re talking about SHAFT!! He’s a bad…
Harleigh

7 days ago
Harleigh–Personally, I’d like to see more of the “angry blah man” President. He might as well do what he’s been accused of for so long!
glenn

7 days ago
yep
Harleigh

7 days ago
Murph – Maybe so. Breyer is a shoe in to support the ACA, probably Kennedy but he’s untrustworthy. Maybe Roberts because as I said, does he want his court to lose massive trust in the nation and be a villain in American history.
adlib 7 days ago
Murph, Ad, right wing though they are, I don’t think SCOTUS hates Obama with nearly the venom that the GOP congress does. One of SCOTUS is black himself but I suspect he might be BINO.
jjgravitas

7 days ago
Ad, as you and I have discussed many times, the power of money to corrupt the media is every bit as real as the political news they report..it is about ratings, sponsors and corporate approval.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
thomas is married to a lard assed bagger queen
Harleigh

7 days ago
It’s ALL about power and Money = Power
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Ad–Hope you and Murph are correct in your SCOTUS analysis. Sometimes I find it hard to believe that a republican cares whether or not he is seen as a villain. However, in Roberts’ case, he doesn’t have to be re-elected, so maybe he actually will think about his legacy. After all, he fooled everyone the first time with his Obamacare ruling.
glenn

7 days ago
Here’s some exclusive footage of Obama heading over to Capitol Hill to introduce them into the 2015 model of President Obama:

adlib 7 days ago
Ad…I think Breyer and Kennedy will vote with ACA because they accept the Solicitor General’s arguments. Roberts will go with them because he does not want to be associated with the minority view having been the vote that first saved ACA in the court.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
jj–Another good one–BINO–that’s the first time I’ve heard that one.
glenn

7 days ago
Props to Harleigh!
adlib 7 days ago
Murph–remember when news was not supposed to be part of the media’s profits. Just goes to show you that when everything is tied to profits, it goes to shit.
glenn

7 days ago
JJ…..Scotus Right Leaners are thus and so because of a combo of theoretical bias and association with the monie powers sponsoring GOP reactionary thinking
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
I just noticed that although I do have an avitar, it isn’t showing up in the live readout.WEhat’s that about?
jjgravitas

7 days ago
JJ…I see it.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
jj–I can see your avatar.
glenn

7 days ago
Now I see it. Never mind. Thanks guys.
jjgravitas

7 days ago
Murph – So who on the court voted to take the ACA case if only 3 will support it? It takes 4 members to agree to take it.
adlib 7 days ago
Capitalism. It’s more pervasive than the power grid.
jjgravitas

7 days ago
well it sure wasnt me! hehehe
Harleigh

7 days ago
Are you SURE, Harleigh?
jjgravitas

7 days ago
They didn’t make me a very good bribe offer!
Harleigh

7 days ago
Oh.
jjgravitas

7 days ago
Okay folks, I can’t hold up my head anymore. Time to call it a night. I hope everyone has a safe and happy New Year’s Eve, and, as my grandmother used to say, “If the creek don’t rise, and the rhubarb comes in cans”, I’ll “see” you all next Friday. Peace.
glenn

7 days ago
When I get annointed ‘KING’ it will be single payer right away.
Harleigh

7 days ago
Happy New Year, glenn!
jjgravitas

7 days ago
Ad….my guess is that the Con Three voted for it, and that Kennedy did as well. Why? Kennedy seems to move with the guys on the right up to the edge of the cliff and then backs off….So he supports the consideration of the issue as a way of bringing clarity to it without planning to support the motion.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
later glenn
Harleigh

7 days ago
Night glenn! Wishing you wonderful digestion and a great night’s sleep!
adlib 7 days ago
Glenn- wishing you and your a Happy New Year.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
Harleigh, when do we get to vote for annointing you King?
adlib 7 days ago
G’night, glenn. See you here Next Year. Have a Good one
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Murph – I kind of guessed that Roberts was the 4th vote.
adlib 7 days ago
As soon as I can find a group of hot chicks and have some exploratory meetings! muhahaha
Harleigh

7 days ago
Well, I’ve gotta go get some much needed bits and bobs. Take care everybody and see you all on Vox Next Year.
pinkpantheroz

7 days ago
Night PPO!
adlib 7 days ago
nite ppo
Harleigh

7 days ago
PPO….take car of those bits and bobs…..sounds a bit naughty bobbing and all.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
G’night panther, and HNY!
jjgravitas

7 days ago
Ad….I suspect that Roberts is possible but I don’t think he would want a case that would seem to question his program saving vote earlier.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
Kind of interesting what extremes things of swung to and fro, from Ebola/ISIS/Immigrants hysteria just before the election to Obama smacking down tyrant after tyrant, Ebola and ISIS falling off the panic radar and the economy booming while gas prices dive. Sure makes those Dems who ran on hating Obama really look even smarter now!
adlib 7 days ago
have swung…
adlib 7 days ago
BENGHAZI!!! wher’s howdy gowdy when you need a good phony conspiracy?
Harleigh

7 days ago
Ad and think that Obama was justifiably disappointed and angry and is making it crystal clear that it is the Dems who now need him more than anything or face complete irrelevancy.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
Murph – Maybe Roberts thought it could be a way of redeeming himselves with RWs? And now that the case hinges solely on judges breaking precedent and ruling solely on a very narrow interpretation that must ignore the intent of law makers…maybe that’s not looking so good.
adlib 7 days ago
Why would Roberts need to be redeemed with RW’s?
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
Harleigh – The Fast and Furious Benghazi Obamacare Conspiracy? Yeah, what ever happened to that?
adlib 7 days ago
Well I’m noddin out guys… see ya next week, same bat time….
Harleigh

7 days ago
Murph – Because he was savaged by them after the ACA ruling and he is one of the elitist RWs.
adlib 7 days ago
Bye Harligh.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
Night Harleigh! Don’t smoke the mistletoe by mistake now!
adlib 7 days ago
For Roberts the only way to retain his status is by focusing on his legacy and not on the momentary praise of the mercurial right.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
Night Harleigh!
jjgravitas

7 days ago
Murph – True but look at Boehner, he may allow a federal criminal to remain in the GOP House just to preserve his leadership. I have so little respect for Roberts, I wouldn’t put it past him.
adlib 7 days ago
Roberts has a legacy? Screwing the public is a legacy?
jjgravitas

7 days ago
Boehner is a craven coward….I don’t have the same opinion of Roberts…
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
jj – So true! Citizens United, refusing the neforcement of Medicaid enrollment for the poor, slashing protections for consumers and voters left and right…I don’t see much concern for a legacy outside of the RW. And if he turns them against him, he’ll have no one supporting the image he may want in history.
adlib 7 days ago
Roberts hasn’t stood up for the people often thoughmore than Boehner. But that is really grading on a serious curve.
adlib 7 days ago
Supreme Court legacies are promoted mostly by legal scholars and then make their way into the narrative of historians….Roberts understands this I think.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
The only history books that will have anything good to say about Roberts will be the ones they write in Texas.
jjgravitas

7 days ago
If Roberts understands that, then decisions for corruption like Citizens United and against civil rights for minorities by slashing the Civil Rights Act sure look like he’s failing at that.
adlib 7 days ago
jj – And those will be written with misspelled words and on paper made from old teabags.
adlib 7 days ago
I do not see Roberts undoing his own vote.
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
Sure hope you’re right, Murph. I just don’t know, I don’t trust him to do the right thing because most of the time, he hasn’t.
adlib 7 days ago
Well- this is interesting but I cannot stay awake for a moment more…so off to bed. Next week. TA!
murphthesurf3

7 days ago
Later Murph!
jjgravitas

7 days ago
I’m gonna call it it a night too. See y’all!
jjgravitas

7 days ago
Night all!
adlib 7 days ago

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