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AdLib On November - 14 - 2014
Vox Populi, our live weekly chat about the week’s events begins tonight at 7:00pm PST! Always a lively, fun and thoughtful conversation, hope to see you then!
adlib 5 hours ago
Don’t forget to say “Hi!” or “Kiss My Executive Order!” when you arrive!
adlib 4 hours ago
Howdy!
beatlex

4 hours ago
Hey Beatlex!
adlib 4 hours ago
Talking about Exec. Orders, POTUS is about to give a speech in Brisbane. Link is:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/abcnews24/
ABC News 24 – ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Australia’s most trusted source of local, national and world news. Comprehensive, independent, in-depth analysis, the latest business, sport, weather and more.

pinkpantheroz

4 hours ago
Howdy, Ad and Beatlex Kiss my executive order! I like it, Ad
glenn

4 hours ago
Its live in abt 5 mins.
pinkpantheroz

4 hours ago
Cool, PPO – Thanks for the link!
adlib 4 hours ago
Thx OZ!
beatlex

4 hours ago
Hey PPO,
glenn

4 hours ago
Hey glenn! How’s all your way?
adlib 4 hours ago
No probs, but i didn’t put that advertising bumph in!
pinkpantheroz

4 hours ago
Hey Ad, It’s not just cold here, but damn cold! In the 20’s tonight!
glenn

4 hours ago
Hey glenn, beatlex and all.
pinkpantheroz

4 hours ago
EBOLA! FOLKS!
Harleigh

4 hours ago
PPO–How is your media? Does it omit facts and outright lie to viewers like some of our media does?
glenn

4 hours ago
glenn – Brrr! That is damn cold indeed! Stay warm!
adlib 4 hours ago
Tuning in now Oz…
beatlex

4 hours ago
evening all
sillylittleme

4 hours ago
as opposed to ola I suppose.
Harleigh

4 hours ago
Hey slm!
adlib 4 hours ago
Hey Harleigh! Sorry, you’re wrong! There is no more Ebola threat; the election is over, dontcha know?
glenn

4 hours ago
Wht’s up, Harleigh?
adlib 4 hours ago
Evening, SLM. How are you?
glenn

4 hours ago
gleenn, our ABC is Government run, so no ads or political leanings ( yeah right!). Much less manipulation than the Murdoch and Packer driven commercial stations
pinkpantheroz

4 hours ago
well glenn and you?
sillylittleme

4 hours ago
aw great…. OK…uh…. BEGHAZI!!
Harleigh

4 hours ago
BENGHAZI!!
Harleigh

4 hours ago
Hey, didn’t I hear something just a couple weeks ago, coincidentally just before the election, about Ebola and ISIS coming to kill us thanks to Obama? What ever happened with that?
adlib 4 hours ago
Whitewaterbolsgazigate
pinkpantheroz

4 hours ago
Harleigh–too early for Benghazi. We have to wait until Hillary says she is going to run! smiling_imp
glenn

4 hours ago
Ad, yes, how quiet everything’s got all of a sudden
pinkpantheroz

4 hours ago
over the southern border with prayer blankeys and korans.
Harleigh

4 hours ago
PPO–That’s interesting. Do you mean to tell me you get to watch a program all the way through with no interruptions?
glenn

3 hours ago
You all know now that the US is Ebola free right now, right? It’s been on all the news channels that terrified the public that Ebola was coming to wipe us all out, right?
adlib 3 hours ago
Why haven’t they started the Howdy Gowdy Show yet??
Harleigh

3 hours ago
SM–I’m fine when I’m in my house, but if I have to go outside; it’s damn cold!
glenn

3 hours ago
glenn, yes!
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Heh – The tv host said, “This is the more Australian event…since there are more Australians involved.” Brilliant.
adlib 3 hours ago
What’s up up peeps?
killgoretrout

3 hours ago
Hey KT!
adlib 3 hours ago
right alib, according to faux by now most of us are dead. whoa doggies, I’m typing at ghosts. lol
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Hey, KT
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Hey KT–how are you and your mom? Staying warm?
glenn

3 hours ago
AdLib.I believe there is one case that is in the US for treatment
beatlex

3 hours ago
glenn ya its getting colder here too. twenties tonight and tomorrow night
sillylittleme

3 hours ago
Harleigh, any question that the MSM collaborated with the GOP to terrify Americans against Obama for not protecting them?
adlib 3 hours ago
Obama is on stage speaking now
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
Rock star reception
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
hey kt nice snowstorm you got, we got bupkes
sillylittleme

3 hours ago
Obama is in da Aussie house!
adlib 3 hours ago
Fine glenn. It’s really not too cold yet. It is for mom though. Circulation isn’t what it used to be at 85.
killgoretrout

3 hours ago
The Ozzies gave the President a warm welcome!
beatlex

3 hours ago
Hey SLM, did you do something with your hair or lose weight? You look a bit different tonite.
Harleigh

3 hours ago
slm, it was gone before I got up at 9am.
killgoretrout

3 hours ago
“It’s nice to be at UQ.” Sounded like a setup for a joke!
adlib 3 hours ago
lol, how did you guess? both, my hair is out of control
sillylittleme

3 hours ago
LOL
Harleigh

3 hours ago
harleigh you recovered from the election?
sillylittleme

3 hours ago
It’s going down to maybe 70 here tonite.
Harleigh

3 hours ago
He’s laying it on with a trowel, but good reception
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
I guess you guys saw the aussies with their heads in the sand? Pretty funny, and to the point.
killgoretrout

3 hours ago
So…after Obama bars deportation for 5 million immigrants, what do you think the GOP will do? Impeach? Shut down the government with an ultimatum attached to the budget or defecit ceiling bill? Just whine and call him a dictator?
adlib 3 hours ago
slm- floriduh came thru and re-elected Skeketor.
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Ad–Yes to all of your questions.
glenn

3 hours ago
AdLib.probably all of the above
beatlex

3 hours ago
I think the impeachment threat is just a lot of the usual hot air.
killgoretrout

3 hours ago
yes ad
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Ad–What is happening with the boner’s lawsuit against POTUS?
glenn

3 hours ago
ad – that and the kitchen sink
sillylittleme

3 hours ago
KT, its just the usual GOP time-and-money wasting shit that they use to camoflage their lack of any action.
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
nazi soshalust fashust commie dicktator!
Harleigh

3 hours ago
pink – rather lack of ideas
sillylittleme

3 hours ago
You missed Muslim, Harleigh!
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
I wrote that in baggerese
Harleigh

3 hours ago
SLM, that too!
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
glenn – The lawsuit was just a BS move to block impeachment. It would take years to go through and The House has no standing to sue anyway.
adlib 3 hours ago
I think the GOP’s promise to actually govern is going to bite them in their tired old asses. They don’t know how to govern.
killgoretrout

3 hours ago
PPO–IMO, the GOP won’t impeach. The threat is much more “productive” for them than the actual action.
glenn

3 hours ago
an mooslem colonist! LMAO
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Wouldn’t impeachment be a huge mistake for Repubs? As it was when they did the same to Clinton? And do they really want a President Biden?
adlib 3 hours ago
Harleigh, isn’t that just what the radical muslims want – to colonise the world?
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
PPO – I thought Obama was an anti-colonialist?
adlib 3 hours ago
I think it is a masterstroke for the President to come out swinging.The R’s will overplay their hand,as usual
beatlex

3 hours ago
Hi everyone! Can’t stay but posted a story that the second or third law firm just quit in the Boehner impeachment fiasco.
kalima

3 hours ago
The GOP is just a bunch of blowhards.
killgoretrout

3 hours ago
Beatlex – I’m glad Obama decided to follow my open letter to him. wink
adlib 3 hours ago
Ad–I really don’t know if impeachment, in this particular political climate, would be a mistake. It would continue to energize their base. And, after this last election, I’m not sure anything will energize the Democratic base. What a bunch of lazy asses! (Democrats, I mean.)
glenn

3 hours ago
That was quite a letter Ad!
killgoretrout

3 hours ago
Hey Kalima!!! Thanks for that update, very cool!!!
adlib 3 hours ago
thanks kalima
sillylittleme

3 hours ago
I dunno ppo…. It’s a Obama slur that makes no more sense than other bagger bullshit because they don’t known the meaning of most of the words. I hate baggers in case anyony missed that.
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Adlib,you are a smart guy,so is the President sunglasses
beatlex

3 hours ago
Kalima, good to hear. Will the repubs ever get the message that their lawsuit has no merit?
glenn

3 hours ago
Oops! There’s the doorbell. Have a great chat and be safe.
kalima

3 hours ago
glenn – But Presidential election aren’t about the base, they’re about getting indies and minorities to vote for you. Big mistake to impeach IMHO and that’s why estabishment Repubs are trying to prevent it.
adlib 3 hours ago
KT – Thanks so much, pal!
adlib 3 hours ago
Is Keystone going to go through? I wonder.
killgoretrout

3 hours ago
Ad–could be. But I don’t trust independents or Dems or minorities any more. I’m sorry to have to say that; but after this election, I’m really bummed.
glenn

3 hours ago
Beatlex – Cheers! I think he may be a tad smarter than me though. Just a tad, give or take…
adlib 3 hours ago
BRB
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
KT–Didn’t the house pass the Keystone today?
glenn

3 hours ago
Seeya Kalima! Great to see you here!
adlib 3 hours ago
this was the lowest voter turnout in like more years than I’ve been around and we had way fewer eligible voters way back then.
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Yeah, I think they did.
killgoretrout

3 hours ago
harleigh – we had record numbers and still only one third of those eligible…
sillylittleme

3 hours ago
So what if Congress passes Keystone? The EPA and Fed agencies get the final say on something that could be a threat to the environment.
adlib 3 hours ago
KT–So what do you think the Senate will do? And, will POTUS approve Keystone or veto it, (if it passes the Senate, that is).
glenn

3 hours ago
glenn just remember though that we were rid of whackdoodle Bachmann but the baggers put in like 10 more. comedy gold
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Harleigh–you mean like hog castrater Joni Ernst?
glenn

3 hours ago
My guess is that Obama will veto Keystone and have the EPA block it.
adlib 3 hours ago
Ad–I hope so. I don’t like some of the stories I’ve seen about what tar sands are doing in Canada. Any input on that, Beatlex?
glenn

3 hours ago
Glad Obama just reminded Australians and the world of the Russian shooting down of a commercial airliner and murdering innocent people over Ukraine.
adlib 3 hours ago
thats a whackdoodle for sure, and the new asshole from OK replacing Coburn will erase the debt with jebus. BWAHAHAHAHA
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Hey Murph, are you really here?
glenn

3 hours ago
I don’t know glenn. I know Obama wants more info about the benefits and possible harms. He said that a lot of the oil will be going all over the world. It won’t really increase our supplies by any great margin.
killgoretrout

3 hours ago
Harleigh–So jeebus is going to pay off the debt? Cool. Guess he’ll use church donations, right? sleeping
glenn

3 hours ago
we get none of the fuel, it is a china canada deal. we take all the risks and refine it. fewr than 70 new fulltime jobs.
Harleigh

3 hours ago
KT – My theory is that Obama was holding back on blocking Keystone before the election. I think he and the EPA will come out to block it now.
adlib 3 hours ago
Canada, where the oil will be coming from will be under no obligation to pay for any clean up if there is a spill or major leak in the pipeline.
killgoretrout

3 hours ago
KT–Sometimes I like our POTUS’ thoughtful and deliberate ways. And, other times, such as Keystone, I don’t. I truly believe there is enough information out there about tar sands, plus given the fact that the oil is not for the U.S. are two great reasons to veto it, IMO.
glenn

3 hours ago
Glenn,first of all,tar is a man made product.the propper term is bitumen.Our economy in Alberta is built around it.And is important to Canada’s bottom line too.We have monied interests as you do in America,and they are winning the battle right now.Money and jobs talk,anywhere in the world.
beatlex

3 hours ago
all true beatlex
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Beatlex–thanks for the correction. Have you had any environmental problems with the bitumen?
glenn

3 hours ago
glenn it is a real bigtime destroyer.
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Ad–I hope POTUS blocks it–from your blog to Obama’s pen.
glenn

3 hours ago
Hi All I think I am here. The site keep telling me it cannot send messages right now.
murphthesurf3

3 hours ago
i got that message murph
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Murph, didn’t you have that problem last week?
killgoretrout

3 hours ago
Murph–take off the tinfoil hat. You’re getting through now. Over….
glenn

3 hours ago
Ok it worked….apparently I have to clear cache, history, cookies, close out and then start over.
murphthesurf3

3 hours ago
LOLOLOL glenn
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Murph – Glad all is well now!
adlib 3 hours ago
I know that the Alberta government is spending on research to find cleaner methods of extraction.We are certainly doing more than other fossil fuel based economies.That is why it is so big that the US and China came to that agreement.The big players have to be on board
beatlex

3 hours ago
I hope the pipeline doesn’t go thru but Obame should veto it, and let me add that Mary Landriu(?) is a big fat piece of whale shit IMHO
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Beatlex–glad to hear Alberta is doing research. I hope you don’t think I was trying to insult you, or Canada. I was just curious as to what was happening there. sunglasses
glenn

3 hours ago
Harleigh–didn’t know they had whales in LA!
glenn

3 hours ago
beatlex = northern mole hehehehe
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Glenn,to answer your question,there will always be problems striking a balance between extraction and harm to the environment
beatlex

3 hours ago
Landrieu was useful to give Dems a majority and that was it. Now that they’re a minority, she offers little reason for Dems to support her now.
adlib 3 hours ago
Sorry, folks, go to leave you. Just heard my younger brother passed away from a heart attack in Northern Ireland.
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
she’s toast al
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Beatlex–I agree. Anyone in Canada doing research on solar or wind power?
glenn

3 hours ago
Oh shit PPO! So sorry to hear that.
killgoretrout

3 hours ago
Oh shit PPO, so sorry to hear that.
killgoretrout

3 hours ago
PPO–Oh my! So sorry to hear of your loss.
glenn

3 hours ago
OH GEEZ ppo! that’s awful. You got my support of course
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Oh no! PPO, I’m so sorry!
adlib 3 hours ago
So sorry to hear that OZ!
beatlex

3 hours ago
I think that the Dems are going to have to give up on the Blue Dog (mildly conservative) option. Democrat IS Liberal. Republican IS Conservative.
murphthesurf3

3 hours ago
thanks, Kt. sudden and unexpected. so have to call my other bros and get things going. Thank you all for your support. bye.
pinkpantheroz

3 hours ago
sorry pink, be well and safe travels if you head to the other side of the world
sillylittleme

3 hours ago
repubelieklan = enemy
Harleigh

3 hours ago
PPO – condolences….so sorry to hear this.
murphthesurf3

3 hours ago
Glenn,yes,we are working on that too.That,in the end has to be the answer
beatlex

3 hours ago
Murph – Agreed. When Dems retake the Senater in 2016, they need a progressive majority and no Dems pulling along with the Repubs. How many Repubs support the Dems?
adlib 3 hours ago
Harleigh–Yes, but I think we have met the enemy and he is us. IMO, Dems threw POTUS under the bus, and that’s why they lost!
glenn

3 hours ago
nobody went out and voted. really lame
Harleigh

3 hours ago
glenn – agreed, didn’t work for gore and didn’t work now
sillylittleme

3 hours ago
When appropriate- I would like to chat about ACA part II. Let me know.
murphthesurf3

3 hours ago
harleigh – agree too
sillylittleme

3 hours ago
murph – what specifically
sillylittleme

3 hours ago
Beatlex–Hopefully, both the U.S. and Canada can get something going other than oil.
glenn

3 hours ago
Part II?
killgoretrout

3 hours ago
Harleigh–the question is why no one voted?
glenn

3 hours ago
Ad…I do not want to interrupt the flow….since I have been in and out trying to connect I do not want to push into a conversation.
murphthesurf3

3 hours ago
I do health insurance all day long and am licensed in 50 states if I can help.
Harleigh

3 hours ago
We have a problem with voter apathy here in Canada also.People seem to think that there is not much difference with the parties.Whoever is elected generally governs from the middle.You guys have it waay different!
beatlex

3 hours ago
Only 36% of voters voted, Dems didn’t give anyone else a reason to be energized to vote. They ran as Repub-Lite. Very discouraging to Dem voters, no wonder such a poor turnout.
adlib 3 hours ago
compromise, 15 wind turbines for every mile of pipeline.
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Murph – Let’s make that the next topic!
adlib 3 hours ago
SLM–the other day there was a letter in Daily Kos from a Canadian, and he enumerated all the things the POTUS has done, and wondered why Americans voted for the very people who caused the problems that POTUS fixed, and obstructed POTUS from accomplishing more. I think it was entitled something like, “You Americans don’t deserve Obama.” A great letter!
glenn

3 hours ago
That’s not a good enough excuse ad. People have to vote, no matter how poorly candidates run their campaigns.
killgoretrout

3 hours ago
glenn – ya I saw that
sillylittleme

3 hours ago
SLM I read that one. it was cool.
Harleigh

3 hours ago
kt – agree
sillylittleme

3 hours ago
Glenn,I could have penned that,I agree with it!
beatlex

3 hours ago
KT – Agreed, not a good enough reason for a responsible voter but the reality is that a majority of voters are irresponsible and don’t view voting as something they’ll do unless strongly motivated.
adlib 3 hours ago
OK. Affordable Care Act. Year 2. Here in Mo. No Medicaid Expansion. I have a number of those I helped get insurance panicking now. They are certain ACA is going to get hacked. GOP for outright repeal with no replacement. Failing that, defund it piece by piece. SCOTUS. No subidies where there is no marketplace and that is us. What do you all think. ACA? A goner, a half goner, or ok.
murphthesurf3

3 hours ago
Beatlex–ha! I thought it might have been you when I read it!
glenn

3 hours ago
last week on bill maher, bernie sanders said he thought it was time for a progressive party
sillylittleme

3 hours ago
Sadly true ad.
killgoretrout

3 hours ago
BRB
glenn

3 hours ago
hey sabreen
sillylittleme

3 hours ago
Hey Sabreen!
killgoretrout

3 hours ago
Hello Planeteers! I hope everyone is well.
sabreen60

3 hours ago
it can’t be gutted since a projected 15 million will be on ACA
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Hello Sabreen!
beatlex

3 hours ago
Hi sabreen
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Hey Sabreen!
adlib 3 hours ago
Harleigh – take away the subsidies and it dies.
murphthesurf3

3 hours ago
they don’t want 15M people going back to the ER for Dr visits and not paying those outrageous rates.
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Harleigh – why not? Most are not “their” people.
murphthesurf3

3 hours ago
murph – the ins cos would kill them
sillylittleme

3 hours ago
Harleigh, I was reading through the comments so that you sell healthcare. I’ve been pulling my hair out during this open enrollment season. I’ve had Kaiser/Medicare since April of this year and cannot wait to ditch Kaiser.
sabreen60

3 hours ago
Murph – First, Congress won’t be able to stop Obamacare because Obama will veto any attempt. Second, we know there are probably 4 votes on the SCOTUS for blocking the Feds from subsidizing in states where they run the ACA but we don’t know that they have a 5th or if they Roberts is really willing to go down as the Chief who stripped millions of Americans of health care.\
adlib 3 hours ago
If the Supreme Court gets involved again, we may be screwed.
killgoretrout

3 hours ago
SLM – so far silence from the insurers
murphthesurf3

3 hours ago
sabreen tomorrow starts open enrollment at healthcare.gov so you can see all offerings in your state…………………
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Ad- using reconciliation they can defund it section by section. If the subsidies get knocked away, ACA dies in a lot of states….
murphthesurf3

3 hours ago
Murph, I think the Republicans have shown over the last 6 years that they don’t care what hurts the American people. I believe they will do everything in their power to destroy the ACA. Even if it’s death by a thousand cuts. Those Americans who are hurt – too damn bad.
sabreen60

3 hours ago
the SC could kill it in all 34 states on the federal exchange.
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Murph, that’s not true. Reconcilliation bills can be vetoed and still need 67 votes in the Senate to override.
adlib 3 hours ago
Sab, I agree.
murphthesurf3

3 hours ago
can someone get me out of this alternate universe I fell into?
sillylittleme

3 hours ago
Ad Lib. I understand that Reconciliation bills require only 51 votes and no budget matter requires presidential signature.
murphthesurf3

3 hours ago
grab my hand slm! lol
Harleigh

3 hours ago
There are some R’s who are talking about changing the ACA,not killing it.But tey are few
beatlex

3 hours ago
Murph – Presidents have to sign ANY bill Congress passes for it to be legal, that is the way the balance of powers work. Reconcilliation only provides for a simple majority vote to win in the Senate, to avoid a filibuster’s 60 vote level.
adlib 3 hours ago
Harleigh, Yes I have been living on Medicare.gov. I pretty much settled on either Medicare Supplement Part G or N. No more advantage plans for me. Now I’m trying to decide on a prescription company. Right now (because of my ignorance) I’m in the coverage gap. I didn’t know it is based on the retail cost of drugs and not on out-of-pocket cost.
sabreen60

3 hours ago
slm – Hate to say it but because our politics have a pendulum nature to them, we have to stomach the swing to the right that precedes the swing to the left. Repubs are going to do their best to make things awful for the nation and Obama for 2 years then because they have done so, they will lose again in 2016.
adlib 3 hours ago
Oh geez, the donut hole of high cost meds. If you are hitting that on medicare you really need to get one of the plans th I’m Ok for now on Humana Advantage for now.at has Drug plan for your particular meds/needs and calculate out of pocket vs cost of new coverage.
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Are Latinos going to vote for Repubs when they go after Obama for blocking deportation for 5 million? Are women going to vote for Repubs as they eliminate the right to abortion and contraceptives in state after state? Without winning women and Latinos and African Americans, the Repubs will lose again in 2016.
adlib 3 hours ago
AdLib, I hope President Obama takes every executive action possible. Let them bring it. If they impeach him, I know they’ll lose in 2016.
sabreen60

3 hours ago
ad – they’ve been awful so long, I was wondering when the people would notice and do something about it.
sillylittleme

3 hours ago
Hey Sabreen–I was “out” when you came in. Don’t know your age, but if you’re eligible, you might also want to check out the AARP plans. I have United for both health and prescription. Have only used the prescription once, and only paid for $4.50 for a month of antibiotics. I’m on Medicare, too.
glenn

3 hours ago
Oh geez, the donut hole of high cost meds. If you are hitting that on medicare you really need to get one of the plans that has Drug plan for your particular meds/needs and calculate out of pocket vs cost of new coverage. I’m Ok for now on Humana Advantage for now.
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Harleigh, the some of the ACA Advantage plans cover most if not all of the donut hole but they are about $150 more expensive per month. Still, when one considers the amount they’re spending on meds and the increased hospital coverage, it may be worth it.
adlib 3 hours ago
Sorry folks, had to step away for a sec.
killgoretrout

3 hours ago
Murph–a little change of subject, but besides the cops and the KKK gearing up for violence, any word on when the grand jury decision will come down?
glenn

3 hours ago
slm – DOn’t forget Dems won wave elections in 2008 and 2012. Repubs won in 2010 and 2014. Back and forth. We have to look ahead at this point, to another Dem President and replacing at least 1 of the SCOTUS Slimes.
adlib 3 hours ago
Ad….I just went back and read the entire section on the reconciliation process- there are twists and turns galore in the process. I will get back to you.
murphthesurf3

3 hours ago
I have a sinking suspicion that all this worry about violence erupting could mean the GJ is NOT going to indict.
killgoretrout

3 hours ago
Hi glenn. I’ve look at probably every plan available in my area. I’ve decided not to go with advantage plans. I like the Medicare Supplements G and N. They are less expensive than most advantage plans including AARP and you can see any doctor who accepts Medicare. With “G” there are no doctor co-pays and cost about $145.00 a month. “N” is $95 a month with co-pay UP TO $20. The drug company “Silver Script” has no deductible and is $26.00 a month plus very low cost for generic drugs. Sorry guys I didn’t mean to take up space with my “stuff”. innocent
sabreen60

3 hours ago
ACA is for people under 65, Medicare is over 65 and way different. Both now have the same annual enrollement window that confuses the living SHIT out of everyone! LMAO
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Murph – True, it is more complex but the Pres must sign all bills…or he can veto them and the Senate needs 67 votes to override that veto even on a reconcilliation bill.
adlib 3 hours ago
KT–I agree. But, one can hope for the best. It would be ironic if the GJ comes out with an indictment, and the whites in Ferguson protest!
glenn

3 hours ago
KT I will be one surprised person if the GJ indicts.
sabreen60

3 hours ago
ad – but when they make a mess and little is accomplished to undo the mess the mess just keeps piling up
sillylittleme

3 hours ago
Ad…then what is all the chatter about them being able to bypass him. It is everywhere.
murphthesurf3

3 hours ago
Good night friends.Feeling for Oz right now,that is awful what happened
beatlex

3 hours ago
glenn, both whites in Ferguson? lol
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Me too Sabreen. I just have a sneaking suspicion that another killer cop will be let off the hook. Heaven help Ferguson if that happens. A lot of people will get hurt.
killgoretrout

3 hours ago
nite beatlex
Harleigh

3 hours ago
Later B!
killgoretrout

3 hours ago
Nite beatlex.
sabreen60

3 hours ago
KT – I think this has been a kangaroo Grand Jury from the start. The conclusion was reached the moment they were called, no way this police-connected prosecutor would have gone down this path if he didn’t know he could rig it. They won’t indict the cop and it will get ugly in Ferguson, IMO.
adlib 3 hours ago
Night Bealtex!
adlib 3 hours ago
night b
sillylittleme

3 hours ago
Beatlex, that is!
adlib 3 hours ago
Ad–there has to be a vacancy on the SCOTUS to replace one of them. And, it doesn’t even look like the POTUS is going to be able to appoint another attorney general to replace Holder; let alone get a SCOTUS appointment through.
glenn

3 hours ago
What did I miss. I didn’t read all comments, but what happened with PPO. And what about Oz?
sabreen60

3 hours ago
Real ugly Ad!
killgoretrout

3 hours ago
G’night Bealtex. Thanks for the information tonight!
glenn

3 hours ago
Sabreen–PPO’s brother in Northern Ireland died; he just got word tonight.
glenn

2 hours ago
Well folks, I’m out too. See ya’ll later.
killgoretrout

2 hours ago
nite kt
sillylittleme

2 hours ago
G’night KT. Sleep well.
glenn

2 hours ago
AdLib, I don’t like how the media is handling Fergerson. There was very little violence. Yet the cops are gearing up like it’s going to be WWIII. I heard CNN today and as far as I’m concerned they sounded like instigators.
sabreen60

2 hours ago
Good night, KT. Take care.
sabreen60

2 hours ago
Murph – It’s the kind of rumor that passes for “news”. Reconcilliation is a process that says, very similar bills passed in the House and Senate are recognized as being substantively the same bill and the small details just need to be reconciled. That requires only a simple majority vote in the Senate. The bill then has to be signed or vetoed by the President like all other bills. So, it has nothing to do with that part of the process. Bills must be signed into law by The President.
adlib 2 hours ago
sabreen – that seems to be the news’ new mission
sillylittleme

2 hours ago
sabreen ppo said his brother just died unexpectedly and had to go.
Harleigh

2 hours ago
Oh, glenn. Thanks for telling me. That’s so sad.
sabreen60

2 hours ago
nite ky
Harleigh

2 hours ago
kt
Harleigh

2 hours ago
Sabreen–I agree about the media’s handling of Ferguson. It seems NO ONE is talking about WHY the people in Ferguson are so upset. Read a comment the other day that the grand jury taking so long is analagous to Michael Brown’s body laying in the street for four long hours.’
glenn

2 hours ago
harleigh smiley
sillylittleme

2 hours ago
glenn – it does seem to be similar…
sillylittleme

2 hours ago
Sabreen – Someone in the media mentioned that the only warnings and urgings to stay calm have been aimed at the black people who were victimized by police when they peacefully protested. How about telling the cops publicly, “Officers, you better stay calm and not overreact to the verdict!”?
adlib 2 hours ago
ad – but that would be responsible and sensible
sillylittleme

2 hours ago
AdLib, How about telling the KKK to stand down. One of them was on TV and was quoting as saying recruitment is better for them now then it was when PBO was elected. Also, more guns and ammo have been sold. These people want a race riot.
sabreen60

2 hours ago
glenn – Grand Juries do not legitimately take this long to make a decision, it’s a short process. This is a sham, from beginning to end. And people in Ferguson and across the country know that and will be outraged when the sham is delivered like “justice” to all of us.
adlib 2 hours ago
it won’t be pretty
Harleigh

2 hours ago
Ad- thanks for the explanation. So, when the GOP speaks of defunding…they are speaking of a face saving pro forma action they can take and Obama can reject.
murphthesurf3

2 hours ago
sorry to be so in and out tonight…lots happening
murphthesurf3

2 hours ago
Sabreen – When the DoJ announced the same thing the KKK brags about, the RW went ballistic and cried out that it was propaganda. Of course, they’re the same ones who claim that black people are racist for calling racist white people, racists.
adlib 2 hours ago
Murph, I thought that the GOP could vote to not fund certain parts of the ACA.
sabreen60

2 hours ago
Ad and Murph–that’s the whole point, isn’t it? That the gop “tries” to “help” the American people, but big, bad, (and black) Obama is stopping them!
glenn

2 hours ago
Ad – See Sabreen’s comment. that is what I am speaking about.
murphthesurf3

2 hours ago
The GOP is now claiming they have 9 health care bills that Reid refused to bring to the floor. Why don’t they make these bills public if they exist so people can see exactly what they are.
sabreen60

2 hours ago
I am also working on the Ferguson thing. What a damn mess.
murphthesurf3

2 hours ago
Sabreen–the KKK has the law on it’s side. At least that’s what their pamphlet says. Of course, the people protesting the verdict don’t have any rights, legal or otherwise, according to the KKK and the media.
glenn

2 hours ago
Murph – Exactly, it will be more insidious than their simple votes to end the ACA, they will approve budgets that defund the ACA but Obama will just veto it. They will no doubt try to blackmail him into there being a government shutdown if he doesn’t sign their ultimatum budget slashing funding of the ACA but he won’t sign it and they will lose on this.
adlib 2 hours ago
because they don’t exist, same as the GOP budget, or any real legislation, DEFUND ACoRN!!
Harleigh

2 hours ago
Glenn- you asked about Ferguson. Rumor here is that the announcement will be on Sunday. We have a snow storm coming in on Saturday night and very cold temps on Sunday.
murphthesurf3

2 hours ago
glenn, The KKK is on the ground in Ferguson and surrounding counties. No one is telling them to stand down.
sabreen60

2 hours ago
Sab and Glenn…KKK has a regional HQ 7 miles from here – nasty people.
murphthesurf3

2 hours ago
Sabreen–I was being sarcastic when I said that the KKK has the law on its side. I agree that they should be told to stand down.
glenn

2 hours ago
maybe they’ll stay inside if it is cold
sillylittleme

2 hours ago
Sabreen – But notice that the GOP never says what is in these health care bills of theirs? I don’t know what’s in them but one Repub flunkie bragged about that but then said, “I don’t agree with what’s in all of them…” so I’ll bet they are about privatizing Medicare, limiting law suits and allowing insurance companies to sell across state lines without being regulated by each state.
adlib 2 hours ago
SLM–I hear the wind blows pretty fierce under those robes!
glenn

2 hours ago
Harleigh – May I just type “Har”. blush
sabreen60

2 hours ago
Murph – Any question that the game was to wait until really bad weather to announce the decision?
adlib 2 hours ago
glenn – lol
sillylittleme

2 hours ago
SABREEN sure
Harleigh

2 hours ago
But that’s not going to stop people from expressing their outrage.
adlib 2 hours ago
Ad- every indication that this was so. There have been these press conferences to warn people that the police are ready.
murphthesurf3

2 hours ago
Ad–wait for bad weather and for the police to amass more weapons to use against the protestors.
glenn

2 hours ago
Murph, When Wilson wasn’t arrested
sabreen60

2 hours ago
I don’t go out if it under 60 degreess
Harleigh

2 hours ago
Murph – And these idiots really think that the outrage won’t outlast a snowstorm? Do they understand why volcanos explode?
adlib 2 hours ago
I think that Wilson will be charge with Manslaughter 2.
murphthesurf3

2 hours ago
Harleigh–that’s because you live in Florida and you’re a cold weather wimp! I know because I was one myself until I finally got some winter clothes, which are hard to find in the Keys!
glenn

2 hours ago
glenn – Oh, I think the Ferguson PD STL County and City have had plenty of firepower already.
adlib 2 hours ago
Oops. When no police report was made public, I knew what the deal was. Everything that has been done to not prosecute has been done. He was given enough time to listen to all the witnesses and taylor his account to theirs.
sabreen60

2 hours ago
Ad–agreed, but haven’t they been “collecting” more lately?
glenn

2 hours ago
Well I’m nodding out. Staysafe and warm all.
Harleigh

2 hours ago
Har I hear you. However, I’d never go out in the winter. In fact, it only when up to about 42 today here in Maryland.
sabreen60

2 hours ago
Alright folks, time for me to call it a night and get under my warm blankets with my warm p.j.’s on. Take care everyone and have a good weekend.
glenn

2 hours ago
nite glenn – stay warm
sillylittleme

2 hours ago
G’night Harleigh.
glenn

2 hours ago
Murph – Maybe…maybe he won’t be charged at all? The DoJ case will be what can defuse the outrage, Holder, will need to come out with an indictment against Wilson soon after or things will get very bad, I’m afraid.
adlib 2 hours ago
nite harleigh
sillylittleme

2 hours ago
Do you Murph? I don’t much about sentencing, but that carries a pretty light sentence doesn’t it?
sabreen60

2 hours ago
Night Harleigh! Night glenn!
adlib 2 hours ago
Ad…DOJ has already said that a CR prosecution is not likely.
murphthesurf3

2 hours ago
Nite, glenn. Stay safe and warm.
sabreen60

2 hours ago
Murph – Really? Why is that?
adlib 2 hours ago
Sab. It does. AND it could be a probationary sentence.
murphthesurf3

2 hours ago
Nite Har take care.
sabreen60

2 hours ago
Provocation and Imperfect Self Defense are what Make a Manslaughter 2 charge possible.
murphthesurf3

2 hours ago
Ad. Don’t know but I saw the story last week and the outrage here was huge.
murphthesurf3

2 hours ago
Well Murph, I admit this is one area where I’m cynical. It’s not the first and it won’t be the last. I think facts on my side when I say black lives have far less value in this country.
sabreen60

2 hours ago
Murph – Just did a brief Google, can’t find any article about the DoJ saying that. Can you share a link?
adlib 2 hours ago
Murph, It will be interesting to hear how they justify Wilson being under threat while Michael was running away. Wilson got out his car. So I wonder how they will square this.
sabreen60

2 hours ago
Ad..

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/federal-civil-rights-charges-unlikely-against-police-officer-in-ferguson-shooting/2014/10/31/56189d80-6055-11e4-8b9e-2ccdac31a031_story.html
Federal civil rights charges unlikely against police officer in Ferguson shooting
Justice Department investigators reportedly have all but concluded that their case is insufficient.

murphthesurf3

2 hours ago
AdLib, The Washington Post may this story right. However, they’ve been wrong a few times recently.
sabreen60

2 hours ago
Sabreen – I think that there will eventually be a last straw, perhaps this will be it in Ferguson, when people have taken all they can take from the racism in our “justice” system and something will have to be done to stop the outrage.
adlib 2 hours ago
ad – and how will the people fare against the police? the no justice system?
sillylittleme

2 hours ago
AdLib, I’m not holding my breath. Forgive me. But when I see how nothing was done when 20 babies were shot down in their school, I don’t think much will be done in an attempt to see that black Americans, especially males, are treated fairly in the justice system.
sabreen60

2 hours ago
slm, If the people fight back, it will be a blood bath.
sabreen60

2 hours ago
sabreen – for the people
sillylittleme

2 hours ago
Murph – Thanks for the link, I missed that story and can only hope the “unlikely” description doesn’t mean impossible but the article sure makes it seem that way.
adlib 2 hours ago
For the people. I’m sure there are guns among the people, but no way do they stand a chance against the police, the Klan and the other armed citizens who are against them.
sabreen60

2 hours ago
so sad that we can’t be what we claim to be, for freedom and justice for all
sillylittleme

2 hours ago
slm and Sabreen – My point is that if there is a reaction like after Rodney King, not hoping for violence but many will be outraged, it could force those in the establishment to give in on reforms.
adlib 2 hours ago
The civil rights old hands in this area have been very clear (again)…..the best pattern would be. March in the mid morning; educate and plan and rest in the early afternoon; rally in the late afternoon; AND THEN HOME. leave the night to the police, the thugs, the gang bangers and the stupid.
murphthesurf3

2 hours ago
I am so impressed with young protesters. Actually all of them. They have shown so much restraint.
sabreen60

2 hours ago
Sabreen – I sure hope people don’t try to go up against police with guns, that’s just what they want to paint all the protestors as bangers and thugs who deserve to be shot and jailed.
adlib 2 hours ago
And with that dear folks, I am going to say Good night. Please take care.
sabreen60

2 hours ago
nite sabreen
sillylittleme

2 hours ago
Sab. Goodnight.
murphthesurf3

2 hours ago
murph – that sounds like sensible protesting, will the police allow for it?
sillylittleme

2 hours ago
Murph – But that would be agreeing to an erosion of their right to protest. Now people can only protest between the hourse police allow them to? In daylight hours only? WHat kind of police state is that?
adlib 2 hours ago
Night Sabreen!
adlib 2 hours ago
Ad….in my experience, the night is the mask that malcontent, provocateurs, vandals and looters use to destroy the integrity of the protest and to gain their own ground. The only night events I have taken part in were church vigils.
murphthesurf3

2 hours ago
I have a lot of reservations about the Al Sharptons out there who want to jump in front of those protesting and try to lead them.
adlib 2 hours ago
SLM….I think so. The Gov’s and State Police and National Guard’s name are all over the events now.
murphthesurf3

2 hours ago
Ad…Al and Jesse and two local “leader” are opportunists as well.
murphthesurf3

2 hours ago
murph and ad – agree about the opportunists, but will the police stand down or want to seem in control
sillylittleme

2 hours ago
I don’t know if protesting should be sensible, practical and reserved for certain hours as dictated by authorities.
adlib 2 hours ago
SLM…I think so, it would make them reasonable parties.
murphthesurf3

2 hours ago
That’s not what I think of when I think about protesting being a right.
adlib 2 hours ago
Ad Since the alternative will undermine their position even further- even in the black community which is NOT in support of ad hoc street action- it makes sense
murphthesurf3

2 hours ago
Murph – Al and Jesse are both commercial products now (though Jesse’s outlasted his shelf life), they are more going concerns than activists…activism is what they sell.
adlib 2 hours ago
Ad Yep….
murphthesurf3

2 hours ago
Ad…did you see my ACA piece?
murphthesurf3

2 hours ago
ad – maybe msnbc will script him
sillylittleme

2 hours ago
Murph – That’s why I think it is just what the cops want. A public so controlled it protests “sensibly”, between the hours and in the limited places authorities allow them. I know it protects them from the craziness that others display at night but it worries me that protests can be so scheduled and controlled by authorities. What can such protests accomplish when handcuffed like that?
adlib 2 hours ago
Murph – Of course, owe you a comment on it!
adlib 2 hours ago
Neat and tidy protests usually accomplish nothing.
adlib 2 hours ago
Ad…with all due respect….the protest were the cover for the looting, the vandalism and the supposed gun shots. The night does not put protestors into good light. It hardly ever does.
murphthesurf3

2 hours ago
Hate to say it and I don’t want violence but a protest that isn’t locked into such limited boundaries may be what is needed.
adlib 2 hours ago
What the protest have to do is impress a tv audience, and to get a lot more people thinking good things about them because rght now they have lost their the public.
murphthesurf3

2 hours ago
Murph – That’s true, we saw that happen and it is a reality. Not sure what the answer is but both choices now are problematic.
adlib 2 hours ago
Ad…asking for trouble. Gang activity was at the center of a lot of what was happening. As one of my mentors said: “the night is a mask and we know who wears them.”
murphthesurf3

2 hours ago
Murph – But would a polite, scheduled protest really impress a wide swath of Americans to act?
adlib 2 hours ago
ad – would anything at this point??
sillylittleme

2 hours ago
A huge, beautifully organized protest march with a rally at the end and strong, but short voices will get tons of positive TV and internet time. There are lots of people here who want the violence.
murphthesurf3

2 hours ago
Murph – I understand, so let’s say protesting at night would cause damage to the protest. Wouldn’t a neat and orderly, police dictated protest be tame and uninspiring?
adlib 2 hours ago
ad – I agree, what would inspire the public, I think they are largely still asleep. Which I need to be soon. Good night to you and Murph.
sillylittleme

2 hours ago
Murph – I think that’s a good thing to do, they should do so but it’s not something that I could imagine activating many Americans to do something. And you can bet the MSM, which wants conflict above anything else, would give it little attention.
adlib 2 hours ago
slm – Something like a national event, like an OWS would make such an impact.
adlib 2 hours ago
But that would mean a long and sustained protest in Ferguson that inspires others around the nation to act.
adlib 2 hours ago
ad – and I’m still waiting for the impact from OWS…
sillylittleme

2 hours ago
slm – Mitt Romney lost.
adlib 2 hours ago
The Senate win of Elizabeth Warren?
adlib an hour ago
The more Progressive sensibilities behind the passage of Progressive laws.
adlib an hour ago
On gay marriage, pot legalization, etc.
adlib an hour ago
I do think OWS gave momentum to Progressive issues, many of which won in this election despite Repubs winning.
adlib an hour ago

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