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SueInCa On June - 29 - 2012

I was not old enough to watch, much less understand the impact of the McCarthy hearings in the 50’s but I know to this day something was seriously wrong with the man and with his colleagues who sat by and watched or participated in the spectacle. A pioneer of television news broadcasting, Murrow produced a series of TV news reports that helped lead to the censure of Senator Joseph McCarthy. Thank God for CBS and Edward R Murrow but even as early as 1958, at least, CBS was moving toward an Infotaining News Bureau as is evidenced by conversations that took place between Edward Murrow and CBS’s Chairman, Bill Paley.

Murrow’s reporting brought him into repeated conflicts with CBS, especially its chairman, Bill Paley, which finally ended in the summer of 1958 after a clash in Paley’s office. Murrow had complained to Paley he could not continue doing the show if the network repeatedly provided (without consulting Murrow) equal time to subjects who felt wronged by the program.  According to author and producer for CBS, Fred Friendly, Murrow and Paley had a major confrontation that resulted in Murrow eventually leaving the network. Murrow felt like Paley was intentionally trying to destroy the show and Paley reportedly told Murrow that he did not want a constant stomach ache every time Murrow covered a controversial subject.  So you can see, even back then, networks really did not want to cover the real deal especially if it caused them constant stomach aches.  I am sure they are free from that these days, but back to Murrow.

See It Now’s final broadcast, “Watch on the Ruhr” (covering postwar Germany), aired July 7, 1958. Three months later, on October 15, 1958, in a speech before the Radio and Television News Directors Association in Chicago, Murrow blasted TV’s emphasis on entertainment and commercialism at the expense of the public interest.   In his ‘wires and lights’ speech he told his audience:

During the daily peak viewing periods, television in the main, insulates us from the realities of the world in which we live.  If this state of affairs continues, we may alter an advertising slogan to read: Look Now, Pay Later.

While this speech damaged the relationship between Paley and Murrow, Murrow continued to work at CBS until 1961 when he was asked by President Kennedy to accept a position as head of the United States Information Agency, parent of the Voice of America.

But I am getting ahead of myself – back to Joseph McCarthy.  On March 9, 1954, Murrow, Friendly, and their news team produced a half-hour See It Now special entitled “A Report on Senator Joseph McCarthy”.  Murrow used excerpts from McCarthy’s own speeches and proclamations to criticize the senator and point out episodes where he had contradicted himself. Murrow and Friendly paid for their own newspaper advertisement for the program as they were not allowed to use CBS’s money for the publicity campaign or even use the CBS logo.

Nevertheless, the broadcast contributed to a nationwide backlash against McCarthy and is seen as a turning point in the history of television. It provoked tens of thousands of letters, telegrams, and phone calls to CBS headquarters, running 15 to 1 in favor.  Murrow offered McCarthy a chance to appear on See It Now to respond to the criticism. McCarthy accepted the invitation and made his appearance three weeks later, but his rebuttal served only to further decrease his already fading popularity.

In the program following McCarthy’s appearance, Murrow commented that the senator had “made no reference to any statements of fact that we made” and contested the personal attacks made by “the junior senator from Wisconsin” against himself.  Does any of this sound familiar?  Republicans shooting off their mouths, disrespecting our President, calling Democratic members of Congress Communists?  Continually talking about a “second amendment solution” or asking when the first shot will be fired?  Referring to our country as a Republic and continually chanting “I want my country back”.  But when you confront them directly, they never know the answer, they never answer the question and they just expect you to deal with whatever harm they have done at any given time.  We do have some Edward Murrows in this country, problem is they are not given mainstream media access.  Bill Moyers, Dan Rather, Thom Hartman and Amy Goodman, to name a few are all journalists that dare to take the path less traveled by the bulk of today’s “journalists”.  And we do have infotainers on the regular networks that will call these people out, up to a certain point.  I am no expert but in all of infotainment these days I would only count on a few reporters who would make a stab at going against the grain, Rachel Maddow, Bob Simon, Scott Pelley, Rev Al, Steve Kroft, Christiane Amanpour or the late Ed Bradley and Mike Wallace.  And even though I believe this, I still think not much(60 minutes exempted but that is their focus) is ever covered in depth and because most on the Right are afraid to appear on their shows, there is little opportunity for real dialogue.  Especially with a person from each side of the issue.

 

Bill Moyers recently commented on the issue of McCarthyism and his reaction to being confronted by it in our time.  This is how he described it.

BILL MOYERS: You’ve heard us talk at times about George Orwell’s classic novel 1984, and the amnesia that sets in when all of us flush events down the memory hole, leaving us at the mercy of only what we know today.

Sometimes though, the past comes back to haunt, like a ghost. It happened to me recently watching the news. You may have seen this:

REPRESENTATIVE ALLEN WEST: I believe there’s about 78 to 81 members of the Democrat Party that are members of the Communist Party […]It’s called the Congressional Progressive Caucus.

BILL MOYERS: That’s Congressman Allen West of Florida, a Republican and Tea Party favorite. At a local gathering, he was asked how many of his fellow members of Congress are, quote, “card-carrying Marxists or International Socialists.” Listen again to his reply:

REPRESENTATIVE ALLEN WEST: I believe there’s about 78 to 81 members of the Democrat Party that are members of the Communist Party […] It’s called the Congressional Progressive Caucus.

BILL MOYERS: Little of what Allan West says ever surprises me. He’s called President Obama “a low-level socialist agitator,” said anyone with an Obama bumper sticker on their car is “a threat to the gene pool,” and told liberals like Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi to “get the hell out of the United States of America.” Apparently he gets his talking points from Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, or the discredited right-wing rocker, Ted Nugent.

But this time I shook my head in disbelief.  78 to 81 Democrats, members of the Communist Party? That’s when the memory hole opened and a ghost slithered into the room.

The specter stood there, watching the screen, a snickering smile on its stubbled face. And I did a double take. Sure enough, it was the ghost of Senator Joseph McCarthy, the Wisconsin farm boy who grew up to become one of the most contemptible thugs in American politics.

Bill Moyers went on to give example after example of McCarthy and his antics during the 50’s and wonder of wonders they sound exactly like not only Allen West but many in the Republican Party today.  When I listened to the entire broadcast(courtesy of Adlib) I was just shell shocked at how Mr. Moyers zeroed in on the exact problem.  I am still in awe of his comparisons especially because he probably had more exposure to the actual hearings than I ever could.

In fact he started his journalism career at sixteen as a cub reporter at the Marshall News Messenger in Marshall, Texas.  In college, he studied journalism at the North Texas State College in Denton, Texas and in 1954, then Senator Lyndon B Johnson, employed him as a summer intern and eventually promoted him to manage Johnson’s personal mail. He eventually graduated with a Bachelor of Arts in Journalism so Moyer was right in the thick of thing during the McCarthy reign.  In his transcript of the show, he recaptured some of  McCarthy’s statements and then commented on those statements or dialogues:

SENATOR JOSEPH McCARTHY: There is that small, closely-knit group of administration Democrats who are now the complete prisoners, and under the complete domination of the bureaucratic communistic Frankenstein which they themselves have created […] They shouldn’t be called Democrats, they should be referred to properly as the Commiecrat Party.

BILL MOYERS: It was the early 1950’s. The Cold War had begun and Americans were troubled by the Soviet Union’s rise as an atomic superpower. Looking for a campaign issue, McCarthy seized on fear and ignorance, to announce his discovery of a conspiracy within: Communist subversives who had infiltrated the government.

SENATOR JOSEPH McCARTHY: I think we’ve got a much more serious situation now than Communist infiltration of the C.I.A. […] the question of Communist infiltration of atomic hydrogen bomb plants.

BILL MOYERS: In speech after speech, McCarthy would hold up a list of names of members of the Communist Party he said had burrowed their way into government agencies and colleges and universities. The number he claimed would vary from day to day and when pressed to make his list public, McCarthy would stall or claim he had accidentally thrown it away.

SENATOR JOHN McCLELLAN: Have we yet received the names, and I assume they’re in the file, of the claimed 133 Communists that are ready for investigation? I’ve asked for them. Have I yet received them?

SENATOR JOSEPH McCARTHY: You’d know better than I, Senator.

BILL MOYERS: His failure to produce much proof to back his claims never gave him pause, as he employed lies and innuendo with swaggering bravado.

SENATOR JOSEPH McCARTHY: Now the hard fact is, the hard fact is that those who wear the label – those who wear the label Democrat wear it with the stain of a historic betrayal.

BILL MOYERS: McCarthy, wrote one historian, had “stumbled upon a brilliant, demagogic technique. Others deplored treachery. McCarthy would speak of traitors.”

And so he did, in a fearsome, reckless crusade that terrorized Washington, destroyed lives, and made a shambles of due process.

SENATOR JOSEPH McCARTHY: Now, Mr. Chairman, do I have the floor or do I not?

SENATOR STUART SYMINGTON: Point of order.

SENATOR JOSEPH McCARTHY: Oh, be quiet. Mr. Chairman?

SENATOR STUART SYMINGTON: I haven’t the slightest intention of being quiet, Senator McCarthy.

SENATOR JOSEPH McCARTHY: Mr. Chairman, do I have the floor?

SENATOR STUART SYMINGTON: The Counsel is running this committee and you’re not running it.

SENATOR JOSEPH McCARTHY: Mr. Chairman, do I have the floor?

BILL MOYERS: Millions of Americans lapped it up, but in the end Joe McCarthy would be done in by the medium he had used so effectively to spread his poison: television. The legendary broadcaster Edward R. Murrow bravely exposed McCarthy’s tactics on the CBS program, See It Now.

ANNOUNCER: On the week’s news.

EDWARD R. MURROW: This is no time for men who oppose Senator McCarthy’s methods to keep silent, or for those who approve. We can deny our heritage and our history but we cannot escape responsibility for the result. There is no way for a citizen of a republic to abdicate his responsibilities.

BILL MOYERS: Then for 36 days that spring, on live TV, during Senate hearings on McCarthy’s charges questioning the loyalty of the Army, we saw the man raw. Exposed for the cowardly scoundrel he was. The climactic moment came as the Boston lawyer, Joseph Welch, defending the Army, reacted with outrage when McCarthy accused his young associate Fred Fisher of Communism.

JOSEPH WELCH: Let us not assassinate this lad further, Senator. You’ve done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you no sense of decency left?

SENATOR JOSEPH McCARTHY: I know this hurts you, Mr. Welch.

JOSEPH WELCH: I’ll say it hurts.

SENATOR JOSEPH McCARTHY: Mr. Chairman, as a point of personal privilege, I’d like to finish this.

JOSEPH WELCH: Senator, I think it hurts you, too, sir. If there is a God in heaven it will do neither you nor your cause any good. I will not discuss it further. I will not ask Mr. Cohn any more witnesses. You, Mr. Chairman, may if you will, call the next witness.

BILL MOYERS: McCarthy never recovered. His tactics had been opposed from the outset by a handful of courageous Republican Senators, and now they pressed their case with renewed vigor.

Then he went on in a general statement about it all:

I was working that summer on Capitol Hill during my college break, and finagled myself into the Senate chamber the very day one of them, Senator Ralph Flanders of Vermont, introduced a motion to censure Joseph McCarthy. When it eventually passed 67 to 22, McCarthy was finished. He soon disappeared from the front pages, and three years later, he was dead.

It all came back the other night, as Congressman West summoned those foul spirits from the vasty deep. The ghost stepped out of the past.

Like McCarthy, the more Allen West is challenged about his comments, the more he doubles down on them. Now he’s blaming the “corrupt liberal media” for stirring the pot against him – a trick for which McCarthy taught the master class. And the Congressman’s latest fusillades continue to distort the beliefs and policies of those he smears – no surprise there, either.

And to help him continue his fight for the “heart and soul” of America he’s asking his supporters for a contribution of ten dollars or more. There could even be a super PAC in this – with McCarthy’s ghost as its honorary chairman.

Plenty of kindred spirits are out there to sign on. Like the author of the book The Grand Jihad who wrote that whether the president is Christian or not, “the faith to which Obama actually clings is neocommunism.”

Or the blogger who claims Obama is running the country into the ground “by way of the same type of race-baiting and class warfare Communism cannot exist without.” She goes on to say his policies are “unbecoming to an American president.”

From there it’s only a short hop to the column that popped up on the rightwing website Newsmax, hinting of a possible coup “as a last resort to resolve the ‘Obama problem.’” Military intervention, the author wrote, is what Obama’s “agenda for ‘fundamental change’ toward a Marxist state is inviting upon America.” The column was quickly withdrawn but not before the website TalkingPointsMemo.com exposed it.

So beware, Congressman West, beware: in the inflammable pool of toxic paranoia that passes these days as patriotism in America, a single careless match can light an inferno.

With all due respect, you would serve your country well to withdraw your remarks and apologize for them. But if not, perhaps there are members of your own party, as possessed of conscience and courage as that handful of Republicans who took on Joseph McCarthy, who will now abandon fear and throw cold water on your incendiary remarks.

Bravo Mr. Moyers, as is the norm with you, you have spoken for doing the right thing.  The only  issue, Sir, is you may wait a long time for any Republican to respond or do the right thing.  You see the Republican party is not the Grand Old Party of yesteryear.  They have boxed themselves in to such a narrow ideology that they most likely cannot see their way out.  They have grasped at straw after straw to bring our President down and he has endured each attack with incredible patience and calmness, never once showing them the same disrespect.  I don’t know what is going to happen in this election year.  I can only hope the American people open their eyes and listen really listen to what is going on around them.  For only by paying attention are we all going to save our country.  We cannot go on for another four years with a party who cares so little for the American people they spend all their time trying to take our President down.

Written by SueInCa

I am a soon to be 59 Nana to Anthony who is 11. I live in Benicia CA with my husband and Shih Tsu. I worked in Banking and the Financial Industry for 24 years in Fraud, Risk Management, Account Management, Program Management, Project Management and Customer Service. I was a Fraud Investigator for Credit Card and Merchant Business and investigated internal fraud and responded to Bank robberies. I was also management in most of these positions. Now I am content to find a part time job where I am just a worker bee, no more corporate BS for this gal. I also make jewelry. I can spend hours in a bead shop just touching all the fine baubles. Only another beader would understand that one.

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  1. M Cubed says:

    Fantastic post, Sue! It is critical to remind ourselves of the battles we already fought, and more importantly how we won them.
    I am currently reading about the history of technology, And the author contends--and ably demonstrates--the realities of the post-World War II world, in which the American military industrial complex of the 1950s was hardly at all different from the Soviet system. The American military got whatever it wanted. Bell Labs developed the transistor (gateway to solid state technology) and the military wanted to keep it a secret. Instead, the military realized that they need so much production to build the missile defense systems that they allowed Bell Labs to license the patent to other companies, but the military would then purchase almost 100% of the product. The early labs and production facilities for solid state equipment was paid for by the military, and there was almost none of the earliest digital computing technology that was not totally funded by the Air Force and the Army Signal Corps. Our “free-market” nation was in thrall to the MIC for almost 15 years after the end of WWII. It was only in 1966 that the military consumption of transistors drop below 50% of the total output of American factories. And there are no American corporations that dealt in high tech since the 1950s that were not beholden to the military for their start up capital or their research and production facilities. No free market here.

    • SueInCa says:

      M Cubed
      Perhaps it is all a sham. As far back as 58 or so Murrow warned about the nation falling into the spell of Television and it’s shallow output. Perhaps that was on purpose? We know from this post that Palley/CBS was moving toward “mindless drivel” in the late 50’s.

  2. AdLib says:

    A very timely and meaningful article, Sue.

    Ed Murrow and Bill Moyers are two big heroes of mine and I couldn’t disagree with any of the others you listed as substantive, valuable journalists.

    History does repeat itself. The parallels to Lincoln, the racism and division between North and South and the demagoguery of fear-mongering Republicans can be seen with regards to Obama and our current political atmosphere.

    Obama isn’t Lincoln but the similarities in style, eloquence, intellect, soft spoken strength and vicious opposition is not dissimilar.

    Nor is the prejudice, fear and hatred of the GOP from the McCarthy era to today’s GOP. And let’s not forget the open racism that was going on in the South at the time of McCarthy by conservatives there.

    Maybe it’s not so much that history repeats itself as certain things just go underground for a while and resurface. I can’t imagine there ever being a Republican party that does not in some way cater to hatred, fear and racism…because that’s all that a puppet of the 1% can offer to fool people into supporting them.

    As for Moyers’ call for an apology, I think he and we know that people as unprincipled as the current GOP who would say and do such things, don’t have the requisite principles to feel regret and apologize.

    For them, it’s winning at any cost, no matter what lies and deceptions are used, if it helps them win, there’s nothing to apologize for.

    • America seems to always have an enemy. To actually need an enemy to keep the gears and buzzers and whistles churning forever onward. During the cold war, it was the irrational fear of communism, and fear of losing the nuclear arms race.
      Today it is the often times irrational fear of Islam and the “evil doers,” in ninja garb, racing across the monkey bars on American televisions everywhere. Are the Islamist extremist dangerous? Certainly they are, but they are not near the dangerous thugs that fueled the Bush administration and the constant fear mongering being spread concerning them. Nine eleven was a dream come true for Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld…et al.
      This is what we have to be constantly vigilant about. The loss of democracy by the constant whittling away of our basic rights granted to us in the constitution. The slow, drop by drop water torture aimed to gently but continuously erode our rights and principles that have made America the great nation that it is. It may be on life support now and then, but preventative care will win out.

      • Nirek says:

        KT , You are correct the bush cheney admin. was extremely happy to have a reason to start WARS. what have we won with the power of the gun?
        Many the enemies we had are now allies, Japan, Germany, and we trade and deal with Vietnam. How long before Mideast countries become allies?

        WAR is NOT the answer to our troubles.

        • SueInCa says:

          “If Democracy is so great, why is the US going all over the world shoving it down people’s throats with guns?”
          Dick Gregory

          Bush and Cheney would have been smart to listen to Dick Gregory

    • SueInCa says:

      I agree 100%. I tell you when I watched that show you posted, it just hit me and I decided right then to write it. It was incredibly easy to do because I feel so strongly about it all.

      I cannot even fathom not saying I am sorry for some stupid thing I did and have a really hard time figuring out how people can do it so easily. The ones who claim they talk to God really gall me.

      Besides God only really talks to Planeteers we all know that.

  3. kesmarn says:

    What a beautifully written article, BFF!

    I think that Moyers is absolutely right in making the comparison between someone like Allen West and McCarthy. But the public figure who seems most like him to me is one who has not been elected: Rush Limbaugh.

    I think their personalities are/were very similar: they’re fear-mongering, angry, paranoid white guys who have a certain level of skill at manipulating public opinion. They both have had powerful politicians eating out of their hands because those politicians feared incurring the wrath of someone who could (apparently) destroy their careers.

    I hope that the same thing that happened to McCarthy happens to Limbaugh and Beck and company. It seemed to happen almost literally overnight. One day McCarthy was a big, scary, swaggering figure who seemed invincible. Then suddenly he was like a deflated balloon: all the hot air blown out of it. He seemed both a shattered, frail middle-aged man and a figure of ridicule — a clown.

    It was an almost instantaneous loss of credibility. And it was never to be regained.

    It’s difficult to really capture accurately the mood of that era: the high level of fear of nuclear war, the manufactured terror of communism, the repressive attitudes toward women and minorities, the intense pressure to conform.

    I was lucky. My parents swam upstream against all those cultural trends. They had both been socialists before settling down into garden-variety lefty Dem politics. They refused to have a knee-jerk reaction toward all “them Rooskies.” (“They’re people, just like us,” was the way my mom put it.) They were both avid readers and independent thinkers. They laughed at the notion of bomb shelters — literally.

    But there were plenty of people who bought McCarthy’s brand of paranoid pseudo-patriotism. They did build bomb shelters, equipped with all kinds of supplies, including guns to shoot their neighbors, should those neighbors attempt to invade and take their “stuff.” (Sound familiar?) They really did believe that all Russians (21st century Muslims?) were alien beings not to be trusted. They felt that there were stealth enemies in our midst who were communist agents cleverly infiltrating the Chamber of Commerce or the city council or the local boy scout troop or the college faculty. (More familiar stuff.)

    I guess this dichotomy goes way back, BFF. It’s the age old choice between being truly free or having a (false) sense of security. The choice of fear or of hope. Of anger or laughter.

    That chain-smoking reporter was on the side of the angels — whether he knew it or not.

    • SueInCa says:

      BFF

      You hit on a lot of things I just told Cyrano I was going to write about. Mainly the right who calls everyone else Facist, Socialist, Communist when all the time they are themselves learning the traits of facism and practicing the tenants themselves. I see it especially with the Dominionists I write about.

      I think it has been shown that Murrow did have similar issues to what the good ones have today. CBS was, at that time, moving toward the infotaining and wanted people who were brainless and all CBS had to worry about was big egos. IMHO Paley was a coward. He knew what Murrow was going to speak to and had to know his passion so nothing he said should have been a surprise. They were close friends after all.

      You may be right about Limbaugh but I think someone like West can be just as dangerous because he is doing his thing out of the public (general) eye. There are flashes of his attitude but no one takes him seriously. I do. I think he is one dangerous man and someone like him has the wherewithall to sneak around out of the mainstream and do his damage locally. Then from local to regional and from there to national almost all without any media scrutiny. Perhaps to laugh at him but egods it is not funny. And there are “agents” of their kind all over in government across this country. A coup from within is not out of the realm of possibility. Same with the RR and the Dominionists.

      • cyrano1 says:

        Love it! Accusing others of possessing the same ugly traits oneself possesses: Pure projection -- best exercised by those devoid of any shred of self-knowledge, right?

  4. cyrano1 says:

    Thanks for the memory jog! I was a high school senior from Washington State in 1954, and those horrifying hearings became the primary catalyst which propelled me into becoming an active lifelong progressive democrat. At the time it seemed to us that our country was becoming a fascist state overnight.

    The “loyalty oath”, which was already required of all Washington State public employees prior to the hearings, acquired a new clause in 1955 (after the hearings) which required signators to pledge under oath that they weren’t “subversive persons”.

    It wasn’t until 1964 after protracted legal battles over several years that the ACLU along with the American Association of University Professors finally successfully argued before the supreme court that the oath requirement was unconstitutional. This led to the rest of the nation following suit.

    Murrow really was a hero wasn’t he? Have you seen the 2005 film, “Good Night and Good Luck? George Cloony produced it and played Murrow’s character working his way through the bureaucracy in order to air the truth about the whole chilling McCarthy story. A great film!

    Back then, there were only three networks and most right wing commentators were on the radio. Their rhetoric paled in comparison to the lies being disseminated today. Paul Harvey and Billy Graham come to mind as being the most noteworthy -- and reminds me that the Christian requirement back then was even more blatant than it is now. There definitely wasn’t the polarization then as exists now, but this was pre-civil rights. In a few more years, we finally broke out of the cage, made equal the law, and too many still can’t get over it. Friends my age send me those “remember when” emails extolling the happy times of the “50’s” and they really make me gag.

    Your heroes today are also mine -- Moyers also at the top of the heap. I also love Frontline. Fearless and spot on accurate! I love the MSNBC people, but am unable to be a consistent viewer. Maybe too much hyperbole and repetition due to the need to fill an hour every day?

    • SueInCa says:

      Wow Cyrano you sure have some history there. You know I was only 5 in 1958 so I really don;t remember any of that. I do know what is going on now and to tell the truth I am reading a WWII set of novels and from my previous research on that time period I see the right using the tactics the facists did in Nazi Germany. It is kind of hard to explain but in their dealings(especially the religious right) they seem to revere facist ideals while at the same time they call everyone else who disagrees with them facists. I think some of them pretend to not know the difference so they can fool people. I just may do some more research on the subject and write it up here.

      The only sorry point of all of this is the people I have mentioned do not have a daily platform except for Amy Goodman and Thom Hartman and they are not on the “regular” stations.

      Well we all do what we can and I sincerely thank them all for their willingness to stand up and call it like it really is. That sounds like a good name for a mainstream tv show. “Call It Like It Is” -- because If we don;t no one else will. Think it could catch on?

  5. Very well done Sue. The comparisons between the days of McCarthyism and the outright fear mongering, accusatory and paranoid right wingers is down right spooky.

    Some present day examples include the talking (but empty) heads at FOX news spewing the thought that Operation Fast and Furious was a greater crime than Nixon’s Watergate.
    The same people who are saying that the ACA mandate is downright treason and Obama should be impeached, if not downright imprisoned. They say the fine (or tax) for not following the mandated healthcare provision is the largest tax imposed on the middle class, in the entire history of this nation. Downright lies, bald faced soulless dishonesty and total disrespect for our president. And the worst thing about it is all the mindless, programmed parrots that really believe this shit.

    • SueInCa says:

      KT
      {sigh} I know and I could not have said it better. To tell the truth I do believe we are coming to a melting point. That black man in the White House was just too much for some white trash and they have guns. I think to myself that I just want to hide in my little town and avoid it all but I know I won’t be able to do that. That is why we bought another house. We decided that the money my husband has sitting in a 401k is better spent on a home for us than losing it in the stock market. We still have mine to lose but I guess we will have to take our chances on that.

  6. SallyT says:

    Sherlock, I can remember McCarthy a little. I would have been 8 in 1958 and remember this man shouting at others on our black and white set. He was interrupting my mom’s soap operas! I also remember mom upset by that fact and also the guy on the TV. Now, I do remember Murrow and his show that he had were he interview people in their homes while he sat in the studio and watched them on his great big TV Set (which would be the size of the norm now a days). Mostly he interview movie stars but also politicians. And, I remember him setting talking to you through the TV with his cigarette and the serious look on his face trying to let you know that things needed to be looked at by you the same way, seriously.
    Now I can’t think of anyone that looks like this serious man trying to bring light and facts to the falsehoods on my TV set. Maybe they need a cigarette? I agree with the list of those you named as nearest to be. But, they are limited by the commercialization of the news. The “fair and balance” that is thought to be necessary and to make money. However, I disagree with that analysis. There are times, too many times, that you don’t need to be fair or balanced. Just call out the lies, lies don’t need a balance. To balance a lie, you will make it half true! No, a lie is a lie. Call it that! Challenge them, call them out. Let them respond but if they respond with a lie, call it that. (Okay, with manners but call it.) If they don’t respond or keep using their talking points, keep drilling them. Are there any that would do that? I don’t know because most of these jerks won’t give those leaning left an interview. They stay on FOX where they are safe and appear as giving facts. Fox and the Limbaughs keep their attendance, keep their advertisers, and make their millions. All the complaining about Limbaugh several months ago lost him a few advertisers but he is still out there, strong as ever. Not until people stop listening to this crap will it change. But, they need an alternative and does the alternative make money?
    Oh, hell, Sherlock, I can go on and on but this is your article! Dr. Watson needs to have an office call with you someday. You have posted a great article and made the old doc think. But, can I add? You made me think this morning of that black and white TV set and Mom and her soap operas and coloring books, puppies, kittens, and all those good memories, too. I would love to have that again in my life, along with Murrow and good news. Oh, but I have those memories and I only hope and wish that my children have as good as those to fall back on when they are frustrated with the world. Love you, Sherlock!
    Dr. Watson is on call.

    • SueInCa says:

      Dr Watson

      I mentioned Steve Kroft in that list because of a recent incident with Israel’s Ambassador and Bibi. 60 Minutes ran a special on the persecuted Christians in Palestine and Bibi And Michael Oren)Amb to US) threw a fit about it. Said 60 minutes was intentionally putting Israel in a bad light. 60 Minutes and Kroft stood their ground and aired the show. Because it was all true and the Israelis have walled in those Christians. Where there was a robust population of approx 32k it is half that now. And the Israelis did that to them.

      I hear you about black and white tv. I can remember coming home from kindergarten and my mom was watching As the World Turns. I also remember Romper Room and Captain Kangeroo. I am sure my parents watched Murrow but I have no recollection of the show.

      I am such a fan of Moyers and I just wish he had more of a mainstream exposure. He would probably cause problems similar to Murrow and our lamestream media could not handle it. The Truth sometimes does hurt but the truth will also set you free. I wish more people in this country truly wanted to be free.

      Love you too Dr Watson and always appreciate your insight.

      • SallyT says:

        Moyer is great and his delivery of the message is so calm, knowledgeable and you feel like he cares about everything he is talking about or helping you understand the issues. I always watch him on PBS. PBS and their FRONTLINE programs are very good and they do expose matters that are concerning and need attention. You feel educated after watching. Nova is good, too. And, of course, I love Downton Abbey!
        Yes, I wish more people cared about getting informed and educated on issues. Yes, the truth will set you free….unless you are in leg shackles, Sherlock. Then you need a good hack saw! Dr. Watson always carries one in her black bag. 😉


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