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ADONAI On May - 27 - 2011

 

 

First and foremost, The Quiet Invasion is a first contact story. What would we do if we actually found evidence of alien life out there? It’s also about politics.
~Sarah Zettel

 

This month the National Geographic Channel(NGC) debuted a new special on alien invasion titled, “When Aliens Attack”. It involved a scenario in which Earth makes First Contact with an alien race and how the human race would respond if they turn hostile. I will pretty much follow their outline for the events, but add a little more detail to certain points I found interesting. It seems like a silly subject to discuss but believe me when I say that the governments of the world take it seriously. Especially America, England, and Mexico. In the last decade, with the discovery of many possible life bearing planets close to our own solar system, government agencies have begun the serious work of planning for an alien invasion force. It may never come, but the consequences are serious and must be planned for.

Why get so strung out about alien contact? Many people believe that such an advanced and enlightened species would have long ago moved past the problems leading to conflict and aggression. That they would come in peace and share their advanced knowledge with us. Don’t be so sure. It has never been the case on Earth. In fact, the most technologically and socially advanced cultures on Earth have most often been the aggressors. These great advances, and the ability to sustain them, require resources and labor that are not infinite on any planet or in any solar system that we know of. The most likely scenario on the books involve a species looking for new resources. Perhaps a nomadic civilization that roams from planet to planet refilling it’s coffers. This scenario has come into question in recent years though. Astronomers know now that water is looking like one of the most abundant elements in the universe. At first we couldn’t find it anywhere, now, with better technology, we can’t miss it. There is more gold, iron, and other valuable minerals in a single asteroid than there is on all of Earth. An alien race probably wouldn’t have to come all the way to Earth to find these things in great abundance.

The NGC special suggests they are here for something they can possibly only get on Earth, chlorophyll and protein. Our plants and animals. In the tv special, they are shown  basically stripping our land of trees, plants, and animals. Pulling them all up into their collection ships.

Collection ship from National Geographic special.

 

It is a good reason for coming here. Those are two things we don’t find anywhere else in the universe. At least not so far. Everything else worth having has been accounted for. Resources are most definitely what they are here for. Why they need them could possibly remain a mystery. Perhaps they need protein like we do but they don’t process it the same way. Perhaps they have a partially plant like biology and need the chlorophyll to produce energy. Unless we actually took prisoners, we’d probably never know. But we’re not gonna take prisoners. Let’s be real. A species capable of traveling between the stars is so far beyond us technologically that it’s silly to think we could match them.

Alien Mothership orbiting Earth

 

Let’s back up to first contact. As soon as we realize the object in orbit is exhibiting intelligence, we will begin attempting to communicate with them. This may not work though, whether they were friendly or not.  Think of how hard it is for two different cultures on Earth to communicate. This would be a whole ‘nother species. We think that sending mathematical codes may work since math is a universal language, but what do we know? Perhaps they have a math and physics we can’t even begin to comprehend. If they are hostile, it’s all meaningless anyways. They’re not here to communicate,  they’re here to conquer. What is one of the first things an army does when attacking a target? They disrupt the enemy’s communications. The invaders first  strike will most likely be against our satellites. Without them our military infrastructure is all but blind. After that, they will most likely immediately send in forward assault teams.

Individual ships break from the mothership and descend to Earth. Much like the movie Independence Day.

We could be in trouble.

 

The appearance of giant spaceships all across the world will most likely lead to a tempered panic. Many will flee and fear the worst, but many more will remain to see what happens. It’ s human nature. We HAVE to know. The ships will most likely mass over the densest population points. Any place that lights up real bright at night. When you attack someone, you want to cripple their military infrastructure.  This means destroying their factories and means of production.  These are located in civilian populations. We didn’t drop atom bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki because they were full of military bases. They had none. We bombed them because they were manufacturing centers. At first, America and other countries, will scramble jets to get  a closer look at the ships. It’s standard procedure for any craft entering our airspace that doesn’t identify itself.

Spoiler: It doesn't go well.

 

 

The ships most likely contain a mechanized armada for air and land combat. Robots are the most likely force we will face in an invasion. In our own short history of exploring other planets, we see that robots lead the way. Our own military is becoming more mechanized with each passing decade. Traveling such great distances in space can be very taxing on an organic being. There’s no reason to believe this isn’t a mechanized assault being controlled from a distance. Int he NGC special, it turns out to be just that. Our fighter jets are quickly met by a swarm of alien aircraft moving with incredible speed and agility. Missile locks prove useless since the alien craft use propulsion systems far beyond our own. It is easy for them to dodge the missile, even at point blank range. Air superiority is crucial in any conflict. If you own the sky, you basically dictate the battle. Once air superiority is   achieved, the ground assault will begin. This too will most likely include mechanized units, as was displayed in the NGC special.

Walking cannons. Simple, efficient, deadly.

 

The projectiles used by these “mechs” will most likely be an energy weapon of some kind. Laser based weaponry is already being researched on Earth, but the application to weapons is proving difficult. We cannot produce the energy right now to make a field ready laser weapon. A far advanced alien race that travels in space has no such limitations. It is apparent they have access to an incredible energy source and learned to use it to power their machines and weapons. They could be laser based or even plasma based. Most of the  ordinary matter in the universe is in a plasma state, such as in stars. Plasma is capable of conducting tremendous amounts of energy, and any weapon based on this tech would be formidable indeed.

Green lasers? That is so cliche!

 

Immediately, our armies would be overwhelmed. The invading air force would have moved on from the cities and begun bombing every military installation they can find while the ground force continues to decimate the cities and the people. It would be a large, well coordinated, and incredibly violent strike. We call it “Shock and Awe”. You basically try to throw a knockout punch on the first swing. Decimate the target so suddenly and severely that they lose the will to fight back. It’s a tactic that existed long before we called it “shock and awe”. It was a hallmark of the Roman and Persian armies. Sun Tzu even used it:  “selective, instant decapitation of military or societal targets to achieve shock and awe.” The carpet bombings of Vietnam and WW2. The A-bombs in Japan. All meant to destroy on a large scale and weaken the morale of the opposing force. It has had varying degrees of success. Often it proves quite difficult to break the human spirit, and that may be our key weapon against an overwhelming alien invasion, dogged determination.

Most likely, the aliens will win the opening battles. And probably quite convincingly. We literally pay people to do NOTHING but come to a room and devise new ways to kill tons of people. There are secret and semi-secret weapons programs being carried out right now. According to the NGC special, and my personal opinion as well, the Railgun could be  a tide turning weapon.  A railgun is a device much like a regular gun. A “bullet” is loaded into the chamber and fired. What is different is the way the object is launched. In a gun, the bullet is propelled by the force of combustion from exploding gunpowder. In a railgun, the object is pulled along a tract by magnets. Railguns can propel objects to tremendous speeds. Speed is the key to all impacts. Speed produces energy and this energy is transferred all at once to the impacted target resulting in forces many, MANY times greater than the mass of the object. For all the damage a cannonball does, fired from a railgun, a similar sized object  could destroy a tank quite easily.

The problem is that it is still very much in developmental stages. Denting solid steel with a pebble is a far cry from bringing down a spaceship. Also, even if they were field ready, our manufacturing sector is history, remember. We simply can’t mass produce them and we don’t have enough to stage an effective counter attack. Without air support, rapid deployment is a no go anyways. Human civilization will be destroyed. There is just really no way around it.  Before we can even begin to comprehend what is happening, our major cities will be smoldering ruins. Society will collapse, and NO ONE will be coming to help. Mass rioting and looting will be prevalent for days, even weeks.The casualties will be catastrophic. Some predictions have at least 70% of the world’s population being wiped out. Most won’t know how to deal with it. They are so dependent on the society that doesn’t exist anymore they will be paralyzed with fear and doubt. It is a survival of the fittest situation and the odds say a great many of us are not fit. Just look at the great natural disasters we’ve had. As much as we want to be, we just aren’t equipped to deal with devastation on this scale. The mind can only absorb so much before it shuts down.

People will escape though. Pockets of men and women who are ready, mentally and physically, to deal with the collapse of human civilization will make it out.  At some point, armies will be ordered to retreat and leave the cities. Told to separate and hide as well as they can until they are ordered differently. It’s not that we’ve given up, we just realize it is pointless to have a head on conflict. Following this exodus is when the real war will begin. To be serious, any alien race that thinks Earth to be an easy target is fooling themselves. Humans, like all living things, have an intense, natural drive to survive. Most people do not easily accept their own demise. It is not odd to think that the invaders would know this.  Surely we are not their first conquest. What if we aren’t even their only war? If they follow military strategy like we do, they wouldn’t commit their entire force to this invasion either way.

Anyways, after the armies have dispersed, world leaders will assess their last possible means of attack. Nuclear weapons. In the NGC special, President Obama is portrayed in a secret underground bunker making the decision to use nukes against the aliens. Bil Pullman’s character, in the movie Independence Day, was faced with the same decision. He eventually ordered the strike as did Obama in the NGC special. It’s a weighty decision to make. Our bombs are far stronger now a days. A single nuke could wipe out all of London or Washington. But what else is there to do? The most agony will be in knowing that there are still people alive out there in the cities. Hiding and hoping help will come. In the movie, the nukes have no affect. The alien ships are using force fields. The ones invading us may well use them too, as they did on the NGC special. The nuke strike in their scenario failed as well. Force field technology is in the earliest stages here on Earth, so it makes sense the invading force has mastered them. This may have not been invented for purely military purposes though.As the NGC special pointed out, whether it’s force fields or some sort of metallurgy we don’t know yet, alien ships will have to be protected for travel through space. Not just from radiation and other cosmic rays but from the impact of micro meteors and other debris. These objects travel at insane speeds through space, and like the railgun example, it wouldn’t take a very large object to cause problems. Any species that may use plasma based weapons could also have mastered the use of plasma shielding. With it’s intense electrical charge, plasma could repel most all matter it comes in contact with, solid or energy. Another reason a “war” with aliens would be short and bitter. Can’t touch them.

So the cities are in ruins and mankind is regrouping in the forests and caves of the world. Any place that provides shelter and low visibility. Months have passed since first contact and humans are adjusting to their new situation.   Time to form a resistance group. This means changing everything we know about the “norms of society”. The continuation of the human species is at stake so breeding becomes a very important issue. Modesty has to be thrown out the window. This means any female of birthing age must be pregnant. And pregnant with A LOT of babies form many different fathers. Fertility drugs will most likely become a prized possession. No one is talking about opening rape rooms and chaining women down, but there HAS to be a priority put on breeding. Organized groups with recognized leadership will find it easiest to implement. There’s a lot of trust involved here. Every person 14 and above should be armed. Even females unable or unwilling to breed, must be armed and put on the front lines. I keep using the word “breed” because there is nothing fancy about this. This is sexual reproduction with only one purpose, producing as many humans as possible in the shortest amount of time. Sounds crude, sounds barbaric, but it is necessary for the survival of the human race, post invasion.

Now, moving away from that dreary but necessary prospect, we get back to the military side of our resistance movement. With the armies broken and people fearing the worst, the NGC special treats us to a mock radio address from President Obama to anyone  still listening. It’s what you would expect a President to say. We are down but not out. He encourages everyone to have hope, and hearing any voice, especially the President , would probably be enough to lift the spirits of many. It lets them know that they are not alone and that someone still cares. Rallied by the President’s words, the various insurgent groups around the globe begin a series of guerrilla attacks against alien targets. This is most likely how the war would be won for our side. We can probably never beat them but, if we hurt them enough, maybe they’ll leave and think long and hard about coming back.

This is the scenario that plays out in the NGC special. Unable to damage the outside of the ships, they devise ways to get explosives inside the ships. This culminates in a coordinated “suicide bombing”.  Hundreds of people fly up into the flagships around the world on explosive devices lifted by balloons. A simple tech that winds up destroying the much more advanced tech. We see this in Iraq with the various I.E.D.’s we encounter. Low tech handing high tech it’s ass. Dozens of alien flagships all around the world are racked by huge internal explosions. They plummet to the ground, en masse. At this point the aliens have to make a decision: Is this worth it? Russia only lost about 4% of their fighting force before deciding Afghanistan wasn’t worth it. America has taken similar casualty rates in Iraq and Afghanistan but we kept on chugging.  Eventually though, we are leaving. I think any advanced race would see that the losses are outweighing the gains. They could probably find someone weaker than us very easily. And by the time they brought theoretical reinforcements,our numbers and strength would have significantly increased, while theirs have fallen. It would all depend on how bad they need what they came for. Most likely it’s not that bad. Just because we can’t find chlorophyll and protein anywhere else doesn’t mean it isn’t there  and in great abundance. We haven’t even really begun to look. We said the same about water not too long ago.

The aliens are retreating. The remaining ships return to the mother ship and it departs for greener pastures. Mankind has “won”. Now, this scenario is for an alien race looking for something. It would take priority over eradicating our species. If an alien species shows up seeking nothing but our destruction, we’re probably fucked. One thing they don’t really get into in the special is all the alien tech the invading force leaves behind when it retreats. Dozens of alien flagships are laying broken across the world. The next time the aliens come back,  we may be a lot closer to them technologically.  OR, most likely, used it to kill ourselves. That is  a big concern for me, left behind alien tech. People think an alien invasion would unite humanity as one. And it would, until the invasion was over. We pretend. Consort when it benefits us. What happened to all that talk of  anew American dialogue and a new dawn of awareness after the Giffords shooting? It was fake. Temporary. Once the aliens leave, the most powerful human armies left will want ALL of that alien tech. We will kill each other for it. I guarantee it.

That is what will be the lasting legacy of an alien invasion, in my opinion. Even if we survive it, it will wind up killing us in the end. We overstep with the technology we produce on our own. Imagine an unfamiliar, far advanced tech in our hands. I shudder thinking about it. Maybe it would unite our species as it carried us into space.  a shared perspective that we are not alone and  we could be wiped out at any moment. Common enemies have very rarely led to lasting peace on this planet. Only temporary truces to be later exploited. Whether we win or not, I don’t want the invaders coming here.  One way or another, they will be the death of us.

 

Well, hope you enjoyed that little read. Really more of a preview and addendum to a very interesting TV show.   “When Aliens Attack” will be airing at various times all summer on the National Geographic Channel. I really recommend you check your local listings and watch it. Fascinating stuff.

 

 

Written by ADONAI

For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire. For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.

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  1. jjgravitas says:

    I think we can rest assured that nothing like this will ever happen, in our lifetimes or in the lives or our ancestors. Why? First you have to assume that there are other planets out there exhibiting life (I do). And that some of those planets contain intelligent species (I do). And that some of those species are advanced enough to build spaceships. Once you’ve got that far you must consider the vast resources required not just to build a fleet of spaceships, but to maintain and fuel them during the long stretch of of time and space required for them to reach earth. The resources required for this is so great that it seriously limits your options for what you can afford, for the length of travel and for what you can do along the way. If you are still with me, and the aliens are advanced (read ‘smart’) enough to have reached Earth, and all they want is chlorophyll and protein, scraping up huge forests of it would not be the most cost effective way to go about it. Since plants and animals reproduce, all they would really need are a few examples of whatever they want, and the nutrients required for them to grow and reproduce, like in a hydroponics lab.

    Just because we are monsters doesn’t mean they have to be.

  2. SallyT says:

    I guess another way to look at it is “pay back is a bitch.” Maybe they will just treat us as we did the Native Americans and put us on reservations and force us to accept new names and their religion. Or, maybe they will need up to pick their cotton and treat us as we did the African slaves. If you just look at us and how we invaded and took over, well, that is all you need to know. The Native Americans fought as long as they could against advance technolgy and imported disease but ended up accepting the faith bestowed on them. They gave up and took what was given to them to just continue to live here. And, of course, there will be others among us that will behave as the stronger African Tribes and help to sell us to them. We can hope that there isn’t an Andrew Jackson with them and pray that one might be Abraham Lincoln. Like I said, “Pay Back is a Bitch!”

    • whatsthatsound says:

      I was thinking the same thing, Sally.
      I think they’ll probably get the ants to help them do their work. Those guys have been chomping at the bit (and they have some fierce chompers) to take over from us and run this planet like it’s supposed to be run.
      They won’t need much convincing.

  3. Pepe Lepew says:

    Railgun?

    I ♥ the railgun!


  4. Sabreen60 says:

    Call me nutz, but I think ET has already been here and may still be here.

  5. Caru says:

    Any space-faring alien species that humans might bump into in the next couple of hundred years will almost certainly be on the higher end of Type 2 civilisations, probably approaching type 3.

    Humans, currently being a measly type 0.7 or 0.8 would not fare well in any form of confrontation.

  6. texliberal says:

    AD, I’ve been trying to understand quantum physics. I think Hawking is and Einstein was an alien.

    • jkkFL says:

      Stephen Hawking has defied the odds on so many fronts for so many years, you may be correct!!
      I still have to chuckle about him complaining about his ‘voice’ which was developed in the US. He wants his British accent back!!! :)

    • Sabreen60 says:

      I enjoyed the series “Through the Wormhole”. I wish it had lasted longer. Although, much of it was “beyond” my reach, I did find the more I watched it, the more I understood.

  7. choicelady says:

    Adonai -- my one question is why spaceships are so clunky looking? They don’t seem at all aerodynamic. I have trouble envisioning something that looks like a flying blast furnace housing traveling all that way efficiently.

    I have a hypothesis based on the capacity for little bugs to fall great distances unharmed that whatever aliens have or will visit/invade will be very, very small, and we will notice them not at all -- unless they are SO small they equal microbes and kill us that way. A new “virus” has just been discovered in Korea. Might it be aliens? The electron microscopic photo showed it was VERY aerodynamic…

    Just my thought.

    I fully understand why Hollywood wants the “Independence Day” super space ship as the Great Menace. Who could get worked up with something that looked like a speck of pollen hovering over Manhattan??? But I think it would be far more probable than the gigunda space ships of fantasy.

    • ADONAI says:

      choice, The ships are most likely built in space. That’s why they are so large. You don’t need to be aerodynamic traveling through space. It’s a vacuum. No friction to slow you down. The reason bugs fall so far and aren’t hurt is because they have little weight and mass. The key to velocity. No matter how far you fall, you will reach a max speed, your terminal velocity, and never go over it. For bugs, the TV isn’t very high and the impact of their mass is very small.

      The attack ships are bit smaller and more rounded to travel through the atmosphere but if they are employing advanced tech, it probably doesn’t matter what their ship looks like. I’m guessing it has so much crap hanging off it because whatever is driving all that energy, you want it as far away from the rest of the ship as possible.

      Small ships would make sense for some species that just wants to observe us and not draw attention to itself. If it’s an invasion, they’re bringing their capital ships. I cannot stress it enough, if you have mastered traveling between the stars, the word impossible has little meaning to you.

      • choicelady says:

        Adonai -- I understand the lack of need for aerodynamics in outer space, but the idea they could function well within earth’s atmosphere seems ridiculous. They’d be highly immobile and not well designed for hovering over the Empire State Building. I think that’s pure Hollywood and not likely to be what would really show itself.

        I do know the principle of bug falls, which is why I suppose the real invaders might be like that.

        Still and all, the possibility is fascinating. Just read a story about the different kinds of hospital infection rates -- well, maybe they are not viruses at all? One just never knows.

        Thanks for a very interesting read.

        • ADONAI says:

          choice, Thank you. And I totally get your question but I just don’t think our physical and technical limitations would apply to them. Could be anti gravity as Caru said or some kind of propulsion we have absolutely no concept of. They’re always shown moving slowly, and that’s understandable, but the hovering isn’t so far fetched.

          We’re developing anti gravity like technology on this planet right now. We’ll need it to get future star ships off the ground until they can all be built in space. Again, an advanced alien race is probably WAY ahead of us on that front.

          And remember, Hollywood gets their ideas from science fiction writers. Science fiction writers get their ideas from actual science.

        • Caru says:

          As long as we’re speculating, I’d say anti-gravity.

  8. whatsthatsound says:

    AD, I’m the furthest thing from an expert on this subject, but it seems to me that any species that would a.) require either protein or chlorophyll, and b.) have the technology to send a ship all the way over here to take it, would also have the technological ability to produce it somehow, at a much lower cost to them in terms of energy expenditure.

    So, my guess would be the only thing that would bring a conquering race here would be the planet itself. They would be a nomadic race who lost their own planet somehow, and would want to replace us on this one.

    Extraterrestrial Vikings.

    • ADONAI says:

      wts, that is highly plausible. Most likely though they wouldn’t want to occupy the planet. All those years in space would make it very difficult to acclimatize to a new planet. They’d probably just pillage it like the Vikings did when they really needed resources. And if they can travel between the stars, energy is not an issue for them. If they need resources then it is simply because they don’t have the means to reproduce it themselves for whatever reason.

      Better to keep moving anyways. Eventually they’ll run out of what they want here. I see it like the aliens in Independence Day. Just hopping from planet to planet, taking all the resources they find useful. Their numbers probably far exceed ours too so this planet wouldn’t offer a lot of room.

      Though a refugee situation like in District 9 isn’t out of the question. But if aliens show up seeking asylum, do we let them in? What they’re running from could be serious bad news for us.

      • whatsthatsound says:

        I was thinking more like the “Superman” scenario. They knew their planet was going to die (maybe from an asteroid), and so they sent out a ship with some refugees. But they would want to take over this planet, not just merely take refuge. Repopulate, assuming that our world was similar enough to theirs that they could acclimatize here. So, yeah, more like Pilgrims than Vikings, perhaps.

        • Khirad says:

          Well, the Eddas and folk tales of the Anglo-Saxons, Irish, Manx and Scots tell a slightly different story.

          True, they were much, much more, but they did their share of pillaging. After all, some places they settled already had people on them.

          And I tell you this as someone whose ancestry includes lots of Clan feuds over cattle raids.

          Then again, guess where all those Scots and Irish get their red hair? (and Russians their blond hair)

          • bito says:

            My comment was off topic, sorry.

            • Kalima says:

              Actually it wasn’t off topic at all bito. Lately it seems to be fashionable here to take pot shots at other people’s ancestry, it’s not a such a clever thing to do, especially when the subject here is about aliens, and so far, aliens are still just pure speculation or images on our tv and movie theater screens, unless someone here has sat down to have an afternoon cup of tea with them that is. That there is other life out there I have no doubt, but if it were as “intelligent” as we are led to believe, why would they just sit back and watch as we systematically destroy our own planet?

              EDIT

              Try as I might bito, this comment just won’t go where it’s supposed to go, under your’s not over it. Strange.

            • jkkFL says:

              IMHO- there is nobody here who has stepped out of line- (among the regular ‘tribe’, anyway.)
              We are too close, and respect each other too much, to deliberately attack.
              I pick on Khirad, he picks on me- and I’m sure we each get a good laugh; I do anyway.. 😉
              We are adults, and disagree frequently, but never without respect.
              This is a forum, not a F/B page.. and it’s not HP.
              We are all better people for the contributions of all here, as long as we don’t take Ourselves too seriously.

              *edit: Now I’m off to raise a glass and a fried chicken leg, to the Centennial Indy 500-Oh, How I miss Indy in May.

            • kesmarn says:

              Well said, jkk.

              Have a great weekend and enjoy the race. I went to college not too far from the Indy track and all through May we could hearing the whining drone of cars going around the track in the qualifying period. It’s a May memory for many of us!

            • jkkFL says:

              Well, as all 500s go- it was a barn burner!
              Next year will be all new- can’t wait for NextGen Racing at Indy!!

            • jkkFL says:

              What the hell???
              Replies posting above the original?
              wts, you Better round up your trouble-makin cyberpixies, and get them under control!!!
              Far as I’m concerned, you can send them to Kalima for cat food! They are a PIA!!! :)

            • whatsthatsound says:

              Definitely the work of cyber-pixies, jkk.
              Oh, by the way, this is for you, in response to your earlier comment to me about the rosy one:[img][/img]

            • jkkFL says:

              You did Not dress Rosie up!!
              She is Adorable!! If you ever need a sitter, I’m available!
              Hugs to MsRosie, she’s gonna give HRHMsMaggie a run for her money!! 😉

              ADONAI; What Did you do to this post????
              This is the most out-of-whack comment column I’ve ever seen! Are You an alien? 😉

            • whatsthatsound says:

              me? I’m an innocent victim of all this looniness. It’s cyber-pixies, as I have taken pains to explain.
              The Rosie dressed up picture was just one of those ad hoc things my daughter and I cooked up, unplanned. The hat was the cover of a nob on a chair that had fallen off, for example.
              It became my avatar at Huffpo, and dozens of people commented on it.
              She’s got charisma, this one does!

            • jkkFL says:

              She is cute enough to be a calendar ferret!
              You create it- I’ll buy it! Or maybe you and PW could collaborate and create a cute critters calendar! :)
              You better round up those ornery pixies, and put them in a jar- or somewhere safer than where you’ve been keeping them!

            • whatsthatsound says:

              No jar will hold the c-pixies, jkk. They live in the internets!

            • jkkFL says:

              Well, my nephew is a programmer, and he never mentioned them- are they escapees from Japan??? 😉

            • whatsthatsound says:

              When I wrote “extraterrestrial Vikings”, I was speaking of Vikings as nomadic conquerers, which is most certainly the reputation they hold, fair or not. I had no intention of taking a pot shot at anyone’s ancestry when I wrote this, and didn’t suspect that my words would be perceived in any way as a put-down. If it came across that way, I apologize, but it wasn’t meant to be insulting in the least, nor did I ever consider that it would be.

            • Kalima says:

              No need to apologize wts, I was referring more to a trend here lately and not the actual Vikings connection you used in your comment, and to the fact that bito had removed his comment which I thought was not necessary. No problem.

              I suppose this will land above your comment too. Lost in space?

            • whatsthatsound says:

              thanks, K

              yeah, what’s happening with these comments? Cyber-pixies, or indignant ETs?

            • Kalima says:

              Too much cyber-sake I think. 😀 This is too confusing for a dull Sunday afternoon. “Songda” is certainly taking it’s own sweet time.

            • whatsthatsound says:

              a dull and WET Sunday afternoon. My herb garden is happy at least.

            • Kalima says:

              I’m jealous. 😉 All we have here are leaks from excess water draining inside from cracks in our second floor balcony. I have two rice bowls under the window frame. Not much fun.

            • whatsthatsound says:

              yuck! That kind of day though, to be sure.

            • Kalima says:

              You, your family and little Rosie take care. I hope this passes soon, it’s too darned slow even with 50 klm ph winds. Off to do MB. Mata ne.

            • jkkFL says:

              You all are in my prayers..and if I might say, you’re spending way too much time there.
              It’s beyond time for Ma Nature to get her britches out of a wad..

        • ADONAI says:

          wts, That’s a pretty good theory. I wonder how the governments of Earth would respond. maybe they just appear as helpless victims, then take over in a subtle way. Or, like in the movie They Live, they just slowly mingle into the population unnoticed until they just take over all aspects of our world.

          That’s a good one wts. Definitely one to consider.

        • jkkFL says:

          OK wts- I like that theory Much better than Stephen Hawkings!! :)

          • whatsthatsound says:

            Thanks, Jkk! People tell me they prefer my theories to Stephen Hawkings’ all the time! hee hee

            • jkkFL says:

              I’m sure they do, wts!!!
              But, I’m afraid they Could be currying favor for a little ‘Rosie Time!’
              (sorry 😉

  9. Chernynkaya says:

    Hey, AD, I just StumbledUpon this and thought of you:

    Your piece is great--not my thing, but really great!

    • jkkFL says:

      Cher, My favorite quote: ‘But try not to think about that!!!”
      I have nightmares at the drop of a hat- guess where I’ll be spending My next few nights! 😉

      Thanks??

  10. KillgoreTrout says:

    Adonai, you might find this interesting;

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36769422/ns/technology_and_science-space/t/hawking-aliens-may-pose-risks-earth/

    Stephan Hawking warns of the dangers that may be involved with making contact with ETs.

    • ADONAI says:

      KT, I’ve heard him talking about that. I am very much in agreement with him. We shouldn’t be advertising our existence. He’s the first person that made me hesitate about finding alien life out there.

    • jkkFL says:

      You’re always one step ahead of me KT!
      I remember that very episode, and perhaps it’s because of his mechanical ‘voice” or the stark reality of his statement; but it made my blood run cold. There’s no cute little ‘ET’ in his reality.
      @ADONAI, I can watch science fiction all day long, but this stuff really creeped me out!
      It’s ‘real’ in a sense that is too easy for me to imagine.

      *edit: are we Sure some of the folks in DC aren’t aliens??

      • ADONAI says:

        jkk, There was a time when this was purely science fiction but, as technology advanced, so to did our understanding of the universe. And the fact we are more than likely not the only ones here. The question is, where are they?

        We’re finding tons of planets that could possibly support what we think of as life. Now, what about all the planets where life we have no concept of exists? We find things here living in some pretty extreme conditions. Things that can live in the vacuum of space.

        Who knows what is out there? But I’m in no rush to find out.

      • KillgoreTrout says:

        Phoning home may not be such a benign experience. I like to think that any beings we come in contact with would understand that we are all made of the same stuff. The stuff of stars. The question is, would that matter to them?


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