All ye who failed to believe my last blog concerning the REAL political leanings of Arianna Huffington, please take a look at the picture she recently tweeted below.

She’s on holiday in Italy, and whilst in Amalfi, just “happened” to run into an old friend and his wife. Guess who?

Unexpected encounters: in Amalfi, running into Newt Gingrich and his wife (even invited him to blog about his new book)

What’s the old Rod Stewart song say – every picture tells a story? She’s even asked him to blog. Huffington Post takes a sharp turn to the Right, with the man who likens Muslims to Nazis.

I feel vindicated.

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I second Bito’s comment.

GN and dildenusa, you’ve developed a thought provoking dialog on Obama’s performance on HCR, what was and is possible and the decision making process. However, let’s stay on topic and keep The Planet ethos of not personalizing disagreement. Thanks!

dildenusa
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In all of this nit picking and teeth gnashing of President Obama’s failures (single payer HCR, watered down financial regulation, tepid fiscal stimulus) has it ever occured to anyone that his advisors might be the problem. The same thing happened to Bush. He was pushed into a unnecessary war in Iraq by self serving advisors. Obama seems to be at a loss on how to deal with the tea bag partiers. You just co opt them with the coffee filter partiers. His advisors downplay the effects of the tea bag partiers at theirs and the nations peril.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/opinion/29rich.html?_r=1&hp

whatsthatsound
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I agree. I think he’s surrounded himself with some pretty compromised folks, and he gets a shitload of bad advice. He seems to be a firm believer that only insiders can fix things, but that just means the solutions they come up with are the ones that their buddies still in the industry can stomach. It’s the “if we don’t do this, world go blooey!” argument.
In fact, that might work as an epithet for the whole darn human race:

“We Got Bad Advice”.

GN
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GN

This comment doesn’t seem very reality based. First, it bizarrely compares President Obama with Bush (Bush as a passive participant in his foreign policy portfolio is one of the more bizarre constructions which I’ve seen). Second, it characterizes health care reform, finreg reform, and the stimulus not as historical and unprecedented pieces of legislation, but as “failures.”

Media spin.

dildenusa
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Excuse me GN, your comment doesn’t seem to be written by an adult.

This comment doesn

GN
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GN

Actually, this comment resembles the sophistry which inhabits the worst of the sensationalized blogs in which the perfect is the bitter enemy of the good.

In the context of this country which is not remotely close to 100% progressives, immediate conversion to a single payer system was not an option. To declare HCR a failure because of that is the worst type of political gamesmanship. This applies to your “analysis” of the stimulus as well.

dildenusa
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GN, what took you so long to get back to me with your ridiculous nonsense?

Correct me if I’m wrong but there is already a single payer health care system in this country. It’s called Medicare. The fAILURE of Obama to extend medicare coverage to any age group with a supermajority in the senate shows his nature as a typical politician.

GN
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GN

And so in other words, the game is to create unattainable expectations for President Obama comprising of a wish list which was never promised, and then slamming President Obama for not meeting those expectations.

Again, this is sophistry and political gamesmanship, not positive or mature advocacy. Unless your goal is to enable the GOP, it is also very ineffective advocacy.

dildenusa
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And who are you enabling? Nobady of course. Not even the far left wing nuts for which you claim to advocate.

Obama promised reform of the health care delivery and provider system. What did we get? Mostly cosmetic changes. A few real reforms but an even bigger mega lobby of big pharma and big insurance. Doctors and patients got screwed while the sophists (Obama included) talked a good game. You have to walk the walk. Obama just talked the talk. Then he wouldn’t get a backbone when congress failed. That became his failure.

By speaking from the center of the political spectrum I make a difference.
What do you do? You think with your 10 cent words like sophistry you push peoples buttons. My buttons don’t work anymore other than to push back.

bito
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Dildenusa,GN, This is a good topic and it offers differing views and opinions all of which deserve examination. Let’s not get into a personal spat and keep it at an intellectual level.

Khirad
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I saw this pic on HP, someone posted it.

‘Twas not any of you under another guise, was it?

Needless to say, I echoed Maion’s points (which are not hers alone, just more eloquently and systematically delineated).

Just asking, ’cause I hope it does go viral.

Oh, and Newt? That slimy opportunist already campaigning like its South Carolina 2011?

I regret ever saying anything remotely nice about him as one of the more intellectual Republicans. He’s back, and trying to out-papulist [sic] Osarah bin Bailin.

dildenusa
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I just logged in to my Huff post account just to see if was still active and it was, but I did not post any comments. Huff Post does have value as a news gatherer and that is sort of what the drudge report does. Arianna has taken the news gathering idea to the next level. I thank Marion for opening my eyes to the truth. I did appreciate this story on Huff post.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/akmuckraker/tea-party-candidate-joe-m_b_697517.html

bito
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It it this story from the Mudflats?

Joe Miller Calls Senator Lisa Murkowski a Whore? (Updated)

😆

http://www.themudflats.net/

dildenusa
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It sure is.

bito
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Don’t you have pics of you and quitter S’arah from the cruise?

dildenusa
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I went on a cruise?

bito
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I didn’t need any background on her (I did), I didn’t mind the comment section completely (even though I got many a”time-out”) but I did finally say after reading one too many sensationalist headline and one too many that had zero sources….BULL SHIT. I don’t go there.

javaz
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Arianna is a right wing whore in sheep’s clothing.

No offense to whores.

boomer1949
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😆

boomer1949
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😆 😆 😆 😆

boomer1949
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A leopard never changes its spots; sometimes just takes a little longer for the whitewash to wash away. What’s the cliche about giving enough rope…? And, I used to admire this woman. What a Bitch!

PS Marion – just sent the link, your post, and the photo to MoveOn.org with a note from me as well. Hope someone wakes up and smells the coffee!

dildenusa
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I admit, after yahoo closed down it’s comment boards, I was one of those left of center independents who moved to Huff post. Was I ever fooled.

boomer1949
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dusa,

Oh my dear, I gave up on HP long before the primaries — oh so long ago. I had no idea Missy was a Greek in RW agenda clothing. Makes me want to throw up. I hate being screwed and not enjoying it. 😆

javaz
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I actually visited Huffington Post once recently and not for very long.

It is a good aggregate of headlines – but the stink from a right wing bias was just too much for me.

Arianna still closes comments from a disagreeing POV.

Daily KOS has had many leave that site, and I’ve tried to register and tell them to come here, but even KOS practices censorship.

Rudy
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Rudy

I have become very tired of Daily Kos. The only reason I go there is because of Blackwaterdog’s diaries.

Yesterday, there was a diary on the rec list about Alan Simpson. The Obama Admin. decided to accept his apology and keep him on the commission.

Gosh! The vitrol coming from the commenters toward Obama and his Adminstration was SICKENING. The insults and name calling was WAY over the top.

AdLib
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Where did this self-righteous mindset in Dems come from…or was it always there?

This group conformist sentiment that if Obama does not make each decision exactly as the Purists would, he has betrayed them and America once again.

Reminds me of when the Politically Correct movement on the Left became extremist, a kind of social fascism where anyone who expressed anything they didn’t approve of deserved to be attacked as hateful or insensitive.

I would like to do a documentary on the lives of these hypocritical Purist Dems and examine the decisions they make in their own lives, exposing them for the compromises they’ve made and make on a daily basis.

Then we could organize a group of Purists to attack them on blogs and via email, see how they like being held to an absolutist, solipsistic standard.

dildenusa
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I would like to do a documentary on the lives of these hypocritical Purist Dems and examine the decisions they make in their own lives, exposing them for the compromises they

javaz
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Yahoo’s boards are back open, but they are not what they were and whatever you do, do not go there.

It’s all right-wingers hating, unless you get there at the right time, so trust me in the warning of never going there.

Mean, nasty and filled with trolls.

dildenusa
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I don’t have a yahoo account anymore.

msbadger
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msbadger

Well, we did have our suspicions…. wow. Thanks for sharing that, Marion!

whatsthatsound
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the badger surfaces! Nice to see you here, furry!