Comments on: Motive http://planetpov.com/2010/02/02/motive/ Real People Real Opinions | Politics News Social Issues Humor Wed, 23 May 2012 09:06:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: choicelady http://planetpov.com/2010/02/02/motive/comment-page-1/#comment-36264 choicelady Fri, 05 Feb 2010 05:37:28 +0000 http://planetpov.com/?p=9152#comment-36264 Ah - but remember that between the 14th C. and 1886, the corporation was totally liable for its own acts, as were the investors IN the corporation. Most of them were for exploration and development of new lands such as the East India Corporation. The invstors had some limited immunity, because they were taking huge risks for the well-being of the nation (so they claimed), but they were NOT given free rein as they are now. That is why the Santa Clara railroad case that tortured the 14th Amendment into supporting corporations as fictitious persons is so critical. It gives personhood to the corporation and immunity to the investors. Huge difference. We are taught 19th-century interpretations of just about everything, and thus we miss the fact that things can and have existed in very different forms before the rise of rapacious capitalism which is largely a post-Revolution and especialy post-Civil War phenomenon. The corporation can exist as a much more beneficent entity than it now is, but it will take a genuine will of our elected officials to hamstring them. The fact the Republican Party has suddenly become the slavish devotees of this SCOTUS ruling and its consequences is actually moving the tea party folks to anger. We need to tap the populism and move it toward away from knee-jerk anti-government rants to understanding how important it is that we ALL unify over returning government to serve the will of people, NOT big business. If the tea bag folks could get past their fear of a Black president, we might just get us a new progressive movement. We shall see how intrinsically smart or reactionary they choose to be. Ah – but remember that between the 14th C. and 1886, the corporation was totally liable for its own acts, as were the investors IN the corporation. Most of them were for exploration and development of new lands such as the East India Corporation. The invstors had some limited immunity, because they were taking huge risks for the well-being of the nation (so they claimed), but they were NOT given free rein as they are now. That is why the Santa Clara railroad case that tortured the 14th Amendment into supporting corporations as fictitious persons is so critical. It gives personhood to the corporation and immunity to the investors. Huge difference.

We are taught 19th-century interpretations of just about everything, and thus we miss the fact that things can and have existed in very different forms before the rise of rapacious capitalism which is largely a post-Revolution and especialy post-Civil War phenomenon. The corporation can exist as a much more beneficent entity than it now is, but it will take a genuine will of our elected officials to hamstring them. The fact the Republican Party has suddenly become the slavish devotees of this SCOTUS ruling and its consequences is actually moving the tea party folks to anger. We need to tap the populism and move it toward away from knee-jerk anti-government rants to understanding how important it is that we ALL unify over returning government to serve the will of people, NOT big business.

If the tea bag folks could get past their fear of a Black president, we might just get us a new progressive movement. We shall see how intrinsically smart or reactionary they choose to be.

]]> By: nellie http://planetpov.com/2010/02/02/motive/comment-page-1/#comment-35998 nellie Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:46:07 +0000 http://planetpov.com/?p=9152#comment-35998 Perfect. Perfect.

]]> By: bitohistory http://planetpov.com/2010/02/02/motive/comment-page-1/#comment-35996 bitohistory Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:43:08 +0000 http://planetpov.com/?p=9152#comment-35996 A <em>SUPREME</em> disappointment? ;-) A SUPREME disappointment? ;-)

]]> By: bitohistory http://planetpov.com/2010/02/02/motive/comment-page-1/#comment-35994 bitohistory Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:41:00 +0000 http://planetpov.com/?p=9152#comment-35994 Taking the word "Supreme" a little too seriously, ya think? Taking the word “Supreme” a little too seriously, ya think?

]]> By: nellie http://planetpov.com/2010/02/02/motive/comment-page-1/#comment-35991 nellie Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:35:12 +0000 http://planetpov.com/?p=9152#comment-35991 Great find, javaz. As if these conservative justices are infallible or unbiased. Thomas continues to be a profound disappointment. Great find, javaz. As if these conservative justices are infallible or unbiased.

Thomas continues to be a profound disappointment.

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